Talk:Termina

Fixed spelling mistakes.

oops- sorry. I didn't see you had already fixed it. —Alter  ^{{T C B H }} 00:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Parallel Universe?

"He found Termina to be separate universe parallel to Hyrule." That's what the page says. There is no evidence to back this up. We do not know where Termina located. It may or may not be a parallel universe to Hyrule. It could be a different part of Hyrule (in terms of the world). I've been watching this statement change back and forth for some time. What's not fact should not be stated here- it should be moved under a "theorys" section for this page. Unless someone can quote where it says it's a parallel universe. —Alter  ^{{T C B H }} 07:00, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

"When Hyrule was created by the three goddesses at the beginning of time, there were certain side effects of its creation which Din, Nayru and Farore did not anticipate. As the three holy women breathed life into the world and chased away Emptiness, their potent breath slipped through tiny cracks in the folds of space and created millions of alternate worlds in the process. One of these worlds became the land known as Termina."

From Zelda.com. The site isn't always 100% correct, but as far as I know it's pretty widely accepted that Termina is a parallel reality, and it would also explain the parallel characters. Jimbo Jambo 07:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Page six of the Majora's Mask manual:

"This is kind of a parallel world that is similar to and yet different from the land of Hyrule, which was the setting for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Termina is a myterious place, and the people Link meets here may look vaguely familiar at first glance.

Clock Town rests at the heart of this world."

Seems pretty clear cut. The manual is canon. Or at least more canon than Zelda.com.User:Matt/sig 09:45, February 10, 2009 (UTC)

That's fine. There have been a few manual instances, but I'll assume it speaks the truth for now. It's kinda sad how you can't trust Zelda.com, huh? Just making sure everything is straightened out. —Alter  ^{{T C B H }} 16:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

While neither source has incredible credibility, they do both say the same thing, and I assume they aren't written by the same people (and it would explain the parallel characters), so even given its tenuous support, I think it's safe to assume that this is what Nintendo had in mind for Termina. I'd like to cite these two things, but I'm not sure how to site a manual, and the website citation thing unfortunately doesn't put the quote on the page like the normal template, which is what I'm hoping to get.... Jimbo Jambo 16:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Alternate Characters

"This is kind of a parallel world that is similar to and yet different from the land of Hyrule, which was the setting for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Termina is a myterious place, and the people Link meets here may look vaguely familiar at first glance." Since the lesson of Majora's Mask is Freindship (you don't miss someone untill they'r gone etc.), wouldn't that mean that the Terminians don't look like the hylians & link is just making them look like that sycologicly becuase he misses them? -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 23:22, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Alternate Link

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Terminian Link

In Majora's Mask, when you play the Elegy of Emptieness, the spirits of the people eased into your masks turn into figurines used to hold switches down. However, there is a Link statue to. See the image to the right. Could this imply that, when link entered termina, he replaced an innocent Terminian? -- կրակ ^(խոսել) -- 22:31, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, you're actually speculating that when an outsider arrives in Termina, he replaces his terminian counterpart... I think this is a separate theory that we may or may not consider... Anyway that statue is very interesting and needs a mention somewhere on the wiki! We may say that it possibly is a Terminian Link, but that the living terminian Link is never found... Or that it may just be a joke.--Kombatgod 06:46, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

I like that theory, but I'm not sure how much support it has from the community. Sounds like this should go to a Mastermind forum before ending up on the page. User:Cipriano/sig 11:31, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

The Elegy of Emptiness just leaves a copy of a soulless husk behind, which is almost exactly how Igos du Ikana describes it. The transformation masks do not contain the spirits of the fallen, but rather the bodies, because you've already allowed the spirits to pass on using the song of Healing. Zora Link looks like Link, because it's a combination of Mikau's body and Link's soul. Mikau's Elegy statue doesn't look like Link, because it has no soul. This explains why it's terrifying to behold, because it's an empty husk. This is also why Link's elegy statue looks so strange; it's just his body only then without a soul. Which would make "Ben" quite literally a soulless monster, but that's neither here nor there. Dekler 14:06, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

"Termina does not exist" theory

This theory has almost zero evidence to back it up, and seems incoherent. Is it supposed to be a part of a larger theory about the Hero's Spirit or a timeline theory? The manual says that Termina is a parallel world to Hyrule, so I think that rules out it not existing. Ganondorfdude11 06:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Offical Stance?

I've noticed that Terminians are not counted as a race. Is this because of a assumption that Termina was populated by Hylians or is the answer more involved than that? PureLocke 23:47, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Whereas the term "Hylian" refers to a certain race, Terminan might simply mean "inhabitant of Termina" which means that the Gorons in Snowhead would also be considered Terminans.

Official Site

The official Zelda Universe site has some interesting info that i think should be included

The Termina section found here [1] explains the creation:

When Hyrule was created by the three goddesses at the beginning of time, there were certain side effects of its creation which Din, Nayru and Farore did not anticipate. As the three holy women breathed life into the world and chased away Emptiness, their potent breath slipped through tiny cracks in the folds of space and created millions of alternate worlds in the process. One of these worlds became the land known as Termina.

It is possible that we would know nothing of Termina's existence if Link had not been led there by the mischevious ac

Sakon's section found here [2] confirms that Termina is real and continues to exist after Link's adventures.

Sakon is the name of a common thief who plagued the merchants of Clock Town. He would likely have long ago been forgotten, but Link foiled his plans on one occasion and the story has been a favorite tale in Termina ever since.--Fierce diety 22:29, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

Giants

Anju's Grandmother says the giants created Termina, not the goddesses. Is there any kind of canon contradictory evidence, because if not, we should assume the giants created Termina instead of the goddesses by accident. Nare 02:11, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Anju's Grandmother merely states that the Giants are Guardian Deities who at one point lived together with all of the tribes in the center of Termina, before the Imp caused the people to spread in four directions together with the Giants. She specifically said that the Four Giants made the four worlds, which is a reference to the Zora, Goron, Deku and Ikana tribes that have established themselves in each of the four wind directions after the Four Giants have each walked a hundred steps. There is no canonical proof for who was directly responsible for the creation of Termina, although the Triforce does show up at places in the Ikana region. Dekler 13:56, 29 October 2012 (UTC)