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Crenel Hermit vs. Patch

Suggested due to suggestions on suggested suggestion. Both are hermits living on large boulder-filled climbable walls on large mountains. Both brag about their skill with a particular pastime, but their actual skill with said pastimes is somewhat questionable. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 00:12, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support: Yep, this is good. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:14, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: Yummy, yummy, yummy, I've got food in my tummy and I feel like-a voting for this. --AuronKaizer! 00:19, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: I like it.-- C2 / CC 01:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: I don't find it interesting, but there's no denying the connections. Portal-Kombat
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Yeah. It looks interesting, but I just don't like it for some reason... Sincerely, Watcher.
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: No, just don't like it.--MaloMart (talk) Malo 00:33, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Sorry, I just don't see enough of a connection. There's one there, just not much of one. And what skill with what pastime does the Crenel Hermit have? All he does is tell you about cracked walls. Sir Real
Pictogram voting comment Comment: He claims to have been an incredibly skilled swordsman. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 01:51, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: I like it (honestly I liked it last time but was too absorbed in squadala to support). Solar flute (talk) 03:06, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: --Birdman5589 (talk) 16:54, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: dont want to sound contorversal but I prefered Melari vs. Patch Oni Dark Link 17:02, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: It works. Jedimasterlink (talk) 03:58, January 9, 2010 (
Pictogram voting support Support: i like this idea--Ironknuckle1 21:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: I wasn't sure at first, but it sounds interesting--RH 17:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blind vs. Helmethead

Both are bosses of dungeons where you get a glove. Both attack by shooting energy balls and both continue to shoot energy balls after their head has been decapitated twice (also using the severed heads to attack). Oni Dark Link 00:29, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: I can totally see where you got this, but it's kind of missing a connection or two. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 00:32, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: I do not dig it. --AuronKaizer! 00:32, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: I care not much for it, nor against it.-- C2 / CC 01:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Never liked either of these things. Portal-Kombat
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral:I don't mind the fight, but Blind has already won just because Helmethead is from Zelda II. Jedimasterlink (talk) 02:52, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment:You'd think so but Error did win over old man. Well that would be a special case because he's error Oni Dark Link 12:46, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

:Pictogram voting support Support: for all intents and purposes this is not that bad. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 18:00, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Thanks for switching your vote so mine doesn't win scumbag. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:16, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

King of Red Lions vs. S.S. Linebeck

In the first two cell-animated games, these were Link's main mode of transportation. While the similarities don't extend beyond that and the fact that they were ships, I think it's high time we had this fight. Sincerely, Watcher.

Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: I'm just not big on ships. Chips, however... --AuronKaizer! 00:40, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Not original at all, not interesting at all, and you even have to admit yourself that there are few connections. It's just...there. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 00:48, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: These ship's sunk.-- C2 / CC 01:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: I was always a fan of sea travel in Zelda. Portal-Kombat
Pictogram voting support Support:Lacks originality, sure, but for some strange reason, I like this one. Don't ask why (you know who you are...) =P Jedimasterlink (talk) 02:52, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: No to battleship. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 18:00, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: It's ok, but still very unoriginal. It's actually not THAT bad, but it still seems a bit lame. --DekuStickMaster

Argorok vs. Helmaroc King

Winged lord of the Kargarocs battle it out in the skies. Well, it wouldn't make much sense anywhere else. Actually, it might be cool in space.--RH 17:43, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support:I would like to see a space fight with these two but we all know thats not going to happen Oni Dark Link 17:44, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: This is actually pretty good. Theres just something I don't like though, and I can't figure it out. So I'll stay neutral. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 18:00, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment:Well Oni, I'm sure a hacker could pull it off--RH 18:03, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: Hmm, no. Unoriginal. It's still not very original, but for the sake of peace in the Temple of Courage, I'll support it. --AuronKaizer! 03:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Just a minute, how is Argorok the lord of Kargarocs? I mean, obviously Kargarocs can be found in the City in the Sky and Argorok's name is kind of similar, but there are no physiological or behavioral implications that they are in any way connected. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 19:01, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: Awesome aerial battles. Portal-Kombat
Pictogram voting comment Comment: To answer your question Xykeb, I wanted a better term to compare him to the typical Kargaroc, but I kinda just stuck with "lord". So...yeah.--RH 01:59, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: CHANGEING VOTE: No matter how much I like the fight, Argorok is from TP, and TP beats TWW most/all of the time. I'm changing my Skeldrict vs. Stallord vote to oppose as well.-- C2 / CC 02:47, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: This is actually pretty interesting in my opinion. I'd like to see whether it's WW or TP flying monsters that are popular. --DekuStickMaster
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: I like the idea of an air battle but don't like this battle at all. I don't see any connection besides them flying. --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:05, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support:It works. Solar flute (talk) 03:38, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Skeldritch vs. Stallord

Two skeletal bosses whom you battle at the end of desert dungeons, and in both battles you destroy their spines before fighting their disembodied heads. --Sir Real 19:26, January 4, 2010

Pictogram voting support Support: Both very awesome fights... but by this point we all know who would win. EDIT: Then I remembered that the only other fight that stands a chance here is one which I am flat out not interested in. Very well, it's a good fight. Portal-Kombat
Pictogram voting support Support: I'm intrigued. --AuronKaizer! 00:27, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: We had a Stallord fight not too long ago. I'm not ready for another one yet. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:29, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support:Even though we just had a Stallord fight, this is the best suggestion so far.--MaloMart (talk) Malo 00:32, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: CHANGING VOTE: Not only does Stallord always win big, he's from TP and TP wins most/all of the time. I'm also changing my Argorok and Helmroc King vote.-- C2 / CC 00:35, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose :Sure, why not? I see the similarities. And I like skeletons too. Even huge fossils and bone demons. VOTE CHANGE: TP has too much supremacy. --DekuStickMaster
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: I so knew somebody would suggest this at some point....look, while the connections are definitely there and for all intents and purposes this is not a bad fight, I'm sorry but I am so sick of Stallord fights that I will probably never support one again. This may seem rather biased of me, but that's just how it's going to be for me. We all know what's going to happen, Stallord will get an unreasonable amount of votes and win by a disproportionate amount. I am not in the mood to see that happen yet again, and I probably never will be again. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 01:27, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Gotta agree with XZ here. I like Stallord, but it's to the point where any fight with him is about as balanced as a "Link vs. Rat" fight. You know who's going to win, so there's really no point in pitting them against each other. Diachronos (talk) 02:58, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Responding to Diachronos, It may not seem like a fight between them would be very balanced, but remember, while Stallord can summon immobile zombies and breathe fire, Skeldritch can fire heavy boulders and fire his laz0r. Also, Sketdritch's spine is armored, while Stallord's is not. However, the people who are saying that Stallord needs a break make a good point; if this fight wins, I think Stallord deserves a long vacation, even though he can't move. Sir Real 18:29 1/7/10
Pictogram voting comment Comment: You realize that while you can vote for the one you think would win a real fight, most people just vote for whichever they like more? Xykeb

Yvolix Zraliv 00:39, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment Comment: Or hate the most, as the case may be. But yes, I know that. I was just trying to make a point about how a fight between them may be more fair than some would think. Sir Real 20:32 1/7/10
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Yet your comment was directed toward their fighting abilities. Not everybody votes based on their abilities, most people vote on which fight they found more enjoyable. And have you seen the Stallord fights we have around here? No offense, but based on past experience, the chances of Stallord not pwning Skeldritch are unbelievably close to zero. Stallord has won against every other opponent in the ToC. Skeldritch is incredibly unlikely to be more popular than, say, Dark Dragon, which lost against Stallord. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 01:39, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: RIP Dark Dragon :( 09:53, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Personally I think there is a better ST boss to match up with Stallord. --Birdman5589 (talk) 04:56, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Who, Birdman? Cragma? Sir Real 20:33 1/7/10
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Yes Cragma. Stallord was the connection that I first though of during the Cragma battle. There is just something better about riding a machine around in circles at increasing hieghts that seems more fun. --Birdman5589 (talk) 06:07, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: I really do think this is a great fight but we recently had a Stallord fight and having him in the temple of courage every month is a bit bouring since for some reason he always wins hands down. Come back in a few weeks time and youll get my support Oni Dark Link 12:15, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: unless we do stallord vs. Link or Stallord vs. Spinner, stallords going to win. Solar flute (talk)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: I'm sick of Stallord getting undeserved accolades. I enjoy the fight, but it's not the best in the series or even in Twilight Princess. Jedimasterlink (talk) 00:35, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: I agree; Zant was a better fight. So was the duel between Link and Ganondorf at the very end. Diachronos (talk) 12:29, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: As much as I enjoy undead fights, I too must remember the undying TP supremacy. Curse those racists, they ruin perfectly good fights! May they spend eternity in the Dark World.--RH 03:26, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Link of the Gorons vs. Swordsman

Ok I just came up with this a minute ago because of how weak this week is and I doubt people will like it, but at least it is another option. These guys are cowardly, but act like they are brave to fend off their fears. Link of the Gorons claims to be Link when he thinks Link himself is one of Ganondorf's minions. The Swordsman claims to be able to cut down the Moon and save Termina, but when it is about to crash he hides in his backroom and awaits destruction. Oh well, lets see how it does. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 04:02, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: Eh. Link of the Gorons kind of fits that criteria, but at the same time he doesn't. If it weren't for the fact that he would totally pwn Swordsman, I'd suggest Linebeck, but as it is...I dunno. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 04:05, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support:Actually, I think this is pretty good. Jedimasterlink (talk) 04:06, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: I like it.-- C2 / CC 04:09, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: It might be due to sleep deprivation, but...I dig it! --AuronKaizer! 04:10, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: Well, seeing as the Stallord fight is basically dead, this is a good option. --DekuStickMaster
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: I dont think Link of the Gorons is claiming to be Link Link I always read is as if he was claiming to be himself and although they are seprate characters having the swordsman and carpet merchant one week after another doesnt work for me. But it is a weak week so I cant out right oppose it. Oni Dark Link 11:10, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: "Hear my name and tremble! I am Link! Hero of the Gorons". Tell me one heroic thing that Link of the Gorons actually did that Ganondorf's minions would fear? --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 16:37, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment:I see it more plausable he would claim he's a Goron rather then a human. We dont know his back story he could consider himself a hero because he wasnt captured before hand. This cant really be argued since its all a matter of opinioin and perspective Oni Dark Link 19:26, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Oni your almost definitely wrong and its pretty obvious. A video game isn't real, so as much as we can debate things about theories and such, if a backstory isn't stated, a character doesn't have any prior history. If you think the game develeopers made a secret backstory for every single character and opted to not reveal them, that seems unlikely to say the least. Until you even decided to question it, it never even crossed my mind that he wasn't talking about Link (who defeated King Dodongo and saved Dodongo's Cavern and is thus the Hero of the Gorons for whom he is named after). And even if thats not the case, which seems to be the most plausible and almost definite, it still doesn't change the basic nature of this fight's concept. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 21:35, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment:You wont change my mind Joe, I have no intentions of trying to change yours and Nintendo will most likely never confirm it so as it is each to their own. Regardless I do not like the fight and dont think of Link of the Gorons as a cowerd but it is to week a weak for me to oppose at this time. Oni Dark Link 23:38, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Ok, thats not what I was trying to do, but sorry regardless. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 03:26, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Link of the Gorons fits your description, but the Swordsman is more of a coward who says he'll do one thing and then does something completely different. Portal-Kombat
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose:I just don't see the similarities.--MaloMart (talk) Malo 01:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose:lessinging the tie Oni Dark Link 23:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Ok, wow. You can count on me to oppose every fight you ever suggest from here on out. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:14, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: WTF? That's a terrible reason to oppose. You could just say I don't like it, but you do this instead.-- C2 / CC 00:21, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: I wouldn't go as far as to oppose all your suggestions, but that is pretty low. If this was a tie, that would be a more legit reason, but this was behind anyway in this case. You could have just said there are others you'd rather have win or something...but sheesh. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 00:25, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment:I did give my reasons why i dont like it above Oni Dark Link 00:40, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: You also gave reasons for why you weren't going to oppose it, yet you retconned those. Just saying. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 00:41, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment:Yes I did Oni Dark Link 00:43, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Umm yeah and you changed from neutral to oppose just to make sure mine wasn't in contention, when it wasn't going to win anyway. But maybe I'll start changing my votes all at the last minute from now on to manipulate the outcomes to my liking. Well, at least for all the other people's suggestions, because I will be opposing all of yours whether I like them or not. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:45, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Oni, the fact that you changed it at the last minute with not good enough reasoning is what is pissing people off. If your going to change it, at least make it seem like you thought about it.-- C2 / CC 00:49, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment:I did think about. I spent a whole day thinking about it and decided to chnage my vote on the only vote that had a neutral from me. And I mean no personnal offense to you Joe and would of reacted the same way if anyone else suggested the fight Oni Dark Link 13:07, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ganon vs. Malladus

This is pry going to be too late to get enough support but oh well. Ganon's Twilight Princess form and Malladus are both demon beasts. One has horns while the other has tusks. Both are forms seen in the Dark World or Realm. --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:05, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Unoriginal and I don't particularly like villain vs. villain fights. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 18:22, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: I think it's good, but we'll probably have to wait until a better time for this fight. Portal-Kombat
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Sorry, no. TP already has too much supremacy (see the Skeldritch vs. Stallord suggestion) --DekuStickMaster
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: Hmm, I don't HATE it and it's probably likely to come up again at a later point. --AuronKaizer! 01:54, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: Ikkle fikkle, Ganon wins.-- C2 / CC 02:11, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Mothula (The Wind Waker) vs. Stagnox

Both are giant flying bugs fought in forest themed dungeons. Both send out larvae to attack you with. Both are defeated attacking their rear and using a wind based item.Jrg4444 (talk) 01:48, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support: I just dig Stagnox is all. --AuronKaizer! 01:49, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: I like it. --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:50, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: Pretty good. --DekuStickMaster
Pictogram voting neutral Neutral: Nothing special, but eh, whatever. It's certainly not bad. By the way, the plural of 'larva' is 'larvae'. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 01:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support:It's better than anything else this week. Resuggest if it doesn't tgo through.--MaloMart (talk) Malo 01:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Hang on, are you talking about a specific Mothula? Your use of the term "wind based item" leads me to believe you're talking about the one from TWW (it could apply to ST Mothula, but that one doesn't send out larvae). If so, you should clarify in the fight's title. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 02:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: I like it.-- C2 / CC 02:24, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Oppose: A boss versus a common enemy just doesn't work. But somehow this still looks like its going to win. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 03:26, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: Mothula is a mini-boss in the forbidden woodsJrg444 (talk) 04:19, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment: And a Moblin is the mini-boss of Dragon Roost Cavern, but I doubt you would consider them anything more than common enemies. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 04:49, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment:Why not just make it refer to all Mothulas? I'd be more likely to support it if that was the case.--MaloMart (talk) Malo 05:47, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting support Support: Congrats, this fight seals the deal and steals the show. Portal-Kombat

Comments

This has to be the most controversial ToC suggestions round I've come across. --AuronKaizer! 01:37, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yes agreed. I have to say, that we are taking this way to seriously, and are really fighting over the votes. Either people like it or don't like it, but they should only oppose if they REALLY don't like it.-- C2 / CC 01:42, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hm. Looks like my two least favorite fights this week are the two that have a chance of going through. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 01:53, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

We have to come to a conclusion on what to do if there is a tie. I think if someone doesn't agree to let the other go through, the first one posted should go through. This probably shouldn't go into effect this week though for obvious reasons. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 01:59, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
I've actually suggested that before, it hasn't garnished a whole lot of attention, but it will work.-- C2 / CC 02:04, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
I see some very obvious flaws in that system, but there's nothing better to do that I can think of. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 02:06, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
I think its the best way to go. Holding an extra round of voting would interfere with our schedule. And theres really no other options I can think of that make sense. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 02:42, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
We could do least oppose votes thatd would make sense Oni Dark Link 09:53, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Except for there to be a tie, the one with less oppose must have less supports, and basically just less votes in general. That's not really a basis for saying it somehow won over the other one. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 10:00, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
O yeah. Well there is no simple way to do this but I dont think posting first should be the way to go because that sounds very unfair. Oni Dark Link 10:02, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Well, clearly Crenel Hermit vs. Patch has won with three, putting mine in second place. Or did I miscount?--RH 16:37, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Mothula vs Stagnox has 5 supports. Diachronos (talk) 00:23, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that one. Well tick tock, someone needs to archive stuff, and I sure don't know what I'm doing with that stuff.--RH 01:41, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
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