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Week 99: Byrne vs. Linebeck

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LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNNNNNN!!! Brought to you by the mythical, benevolent Fairies of the Temple of Courage, we present to you the 99th battle for supremacy! This week we have two beloved characters from recent installments in the series. Both are initially indifferent and uncaring towards the hero of the games, but become trusted allies to the point that they sacrifice themselves for the greater good! Let us meet our two combatants in the ring.

In the green corner is a mysterious man skilled in martial arts and has one mechanical arm, which boasts great strength. Despite being the second-hand man of the hero's antagonistic counterpart, his loyalty is to battle, not any one "master." Eventually, he sacrifices his life for Link, and his true nature is revealed. THIS... IS... BYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYRNE!!!

In the blue corner is an egotistical, sarcastic and self-serving treasure hunter with his very own steam ship. Initially, he agrees to aid the hero only for the promised reward of a huge amount of treasure, but he grows to like him and becomes wrapped up in the events leading to the defeat of evil and the restoration of peace to the World of the Ocean King. Also, his grandson would later help a descendant of the hero during another quest. THIS... IS... LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINEBECK!!!

Next week may be the 100th battle in the Temple, but firstly, we have a battle against two choice characters here, so there is nothing to say but... LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!!!

Votes for Byrne

  1. Heh. I know this bad guy has a soft side towards the end of Spirit Tracks but hey, I have no idea how Linebeck can attack...Pie145
  2. There was just something about him from the beginning that made me like him. --Jäzzi (talk) 00:09, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Normally I would go with Linebeck, but Byrne's boss battle and music barely puts him ahead of Linebeck for me. J-man Zelda Fan (talk) 00:49, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  4. My negative disposition towards Linebeck hinders me form voting for him. Besides, |3yr|\|3 15 4 |33457! -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
  5. byrne can own in this battle he could stangle linebeck with one hand behind his back An Octorok from The Minish CapDmerkaGU10An Octorok from The Minish Cap 03:22, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Look at him. 'Nuff said User:Hello Doggy
  7. Meep. M33P. mEEp. Meep Meep (talk) 15:49, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  8. He is a total bad@$$. Super duh... AlpacaDoggie Mask.gif 15:52, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Even though his betrayal was highly predictable and he was injured for half the game Staven still makes a great villain with a perfect theme song, a bad ass gauntlet and the best and one of the only death scenes in the series. O yeah he's left handed too that might not make a difference to you but it does to me Oni Dark Link 17:38, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  10. URK! It pains me to even vote for one. Spirit Tracks was a huge letdown for me, but Phantom Hourglass? Oh gosh..... if I could i'd erase it from history. It is in the same mental placement in my mind as the cd-i games, at least they had DINNERS and you could listen to peaceful melodies of MAH BOI!@@@#@$~!---Tehmeganerd (talk) 23:51, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  11. Total badass--DarkTriforce (talk) 01:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
  12. Got to vote here but the whole Han Solo of Zelda thing almost made me change my vote Birdman5589 (talk)
  13. ^^ This almost got me, too, but Byrne shares the rugged smuggler's most important quality...his 1337ness. Not that Linebeck isn't, obviously, but his is of a different breed. Jedimasterlink (talk) 02:58, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Totally and completely Byrne. Amazing theme music, amazing boss music, and the two other music pieces that bear his name (Byrne's Helping Hand and In Rememberance of Byrne) are AMAZING. He has a cool backstory, he's badass, he has better hair, I completely adore his relationship with Zelda and would probably be shipping them if she was older, and, most importantly, I don't want to slap him. Which kind of helps! --Ryttu3k (talk) 10:18, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
  15. I just love his theme song. It's super awesome! He's one of the best Zelda characters ever! Paffe 14:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
  16. Nice arm. /\/\r.6r33|\| |-|@T (talk) 23:53, May 18, 2010 (UTC)Mr.Green hat
  17. I don't have any PH experience, and Byrne is one of the best characters ever rendered to the DS graphics. (PS. It's a tie now!) LunarChild (talk) 04:27, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
  18. Byrne is totally better than linebeck. Linebeck wouldn't even be able to attack Byrne before he would be totally pwned by Byrne.--War62 (talk) 15:43, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
  19. I'm trying to think of something witty to say......ah, screw it. Go Byrne! Sir Real (talk) 20:47, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
  20. I vote for Byrne, because he has a cool metal arm, like the protagonist of my favorite anime, Full Metal Alchemist (I'm not a fanboy of it, just a fan, another relationship between FMA and ST is that they are both protagonized by a blond, small guy and a soul in an armor),he has a cool music theme and he is powerful. Linebeck is just a greedy idiot, so I go for Byrne--Grax638 (talk) 22:24, May 19, 2010 (UTC).
  21. linebeck just annoyed me such as the first time you met him he sticks u in a trapDevdude (talk) 04:28, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
  22. I was endeared more to Byrne when I first played Spirit Tracks than I was to Linebeck at the start of Phantom Hourglass. And I'm a total sucker for the evil-to-good transition. --Zachary Kazmare (talk)
  23. People, it's a ninja with a freaking cyborg claw arm. WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR? Haingi 3:12 PM, May 20, 2010 (GMT-8)

Anonymous votes

  1. This week, my vote goes to the one I don't hate with a passion. As in, the vote goes to Byrne.
  2. This guy is so cool. Byrne's mechanical arm is cool, his theme song is cool, in general, he is cool.
  3. Ha, this is my first TOC vote, and of course it goes to Byrne...I mean he's a warrior born, no offense, but Linebeck is just a self-absorbed treasure hunter that nobody likes...
  4. This is an all round cool guy, who is a character that I actually like. Go Byrne!!!
  5. When I saw him for the first time I was like, wow he is awesome. And his arm is so strong it whipped Link aside easily, which lead to more laughter in the game.
  6. look if it was a fight, Byrne would win. If it was for heroics Byrne would win because he sacrificed his life for link. in character design Byrne looks much better. Byrne gets my vote because the only thing Linebeck can get an award for is cowardice.
  7. Just look at him.
  8. simple comparison of in-game actions. Byrne fights and does things that actually mean something to the plot besides what he has in common with Linebeck, where as Linebeck just sails the boat and yells at Link.
  9. Dekustickmaster's vote is so twisted, I don't even no where to start! 1. Yes, the reaction was memorable, but his snobbishness throughout the game makes him a rotten character. 2. Linebeck's theme song was completely FORGETTABLE! 3. Linebeck did go against Link. He shook him senseless in the beginning, and got posessed near the end. 4. HIS COAT IS NERDY! 5. A punch that can break a sword in two AND knock out a grown man is TEN TIMES better than shaking a guy. 6. Linebeck swung a sword ONCE in the final fight. Byrne, on the other hand, has insanely cool (and powerful) martial arts that he is not afraid to use! ANNNNNNNND, he sacrificed himself in the end. 7. What kind of reason is HE IS LINEBECK. I say, HE IS BYRNE, by Tektites! 8. Linebeck is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too cowardly annnnnd stuuuuupid to be the winner. HE IS A SELFISH, SNOBBISH, WACKED MORON!!!
  10. linebeck just annoyed me such as the first time you met him he sticks u in a trap < This
  11. "You cannot give up now! Your body has the sacred power of the spirits! Now concentrate on reclaiming it! After all... Didn't you say you wanted to have words with me?"

Votes for Linebeck

  1. It's Linebeck. Freakin' Linebeck. His very name alone owns Staven Byrne. Byrne is exceptionally cool, but come on, it's Linebeck! The very own Han Solo of Zelda, but somehow even more awesome. He made Phantom Hourglass. Well, err, you know, he didn't make it make it, but he, you know. He made the game. Without him... I don't even want to imagine it. LINEBECK, LINEBECK, LINEBECK!!! (Psst, anyone who thinks Linebeck appears in two games... you know what you are. Also, LINEBECK!!!) --AuronKaizer! 23:58, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Linebeck is sweet. And sarcastic. Easily one of my favorite characters.-- C2 / CC 00:00, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  3. This is a hard choice. I'm just gonna go with my gut. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:05, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  4. When in doubt, go with the guy who's funnier. -Minish Link 00:08, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Awesome, awesome, and double awesome while clicking CTRL-SHIFT-AWESOME... - McGillivray227 00:44, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  6. I like both of them, but LINEBECK MUST WIN, for a variety of reasons. 1. Who can forget his reaction after that wish Oshus promised him? No, really, who? 2. Byrne's theme song is good, but Linebeck's is much better in my opinion. 3. Linebeck accompanies Link throughout the whole adventure of PH, and isn't one of the antagonists, soo... 4. His coat. I mean, look at it. 5. You wonder how Linebeck can attack? Well, he can easily beat Byrne by using SHAKE ATTACK!!! SHAKE ATTACK is a OVER 9000 power physical move that causes confusion. He's already used it on Link before in the TotOK, and you know what that looks like, right? *Link staggers around holding the key with his eyes spinning* 7. He actually fought Bellum, unlike Byrne who only made a shield for Link. And 8. HE IS LINEBECK. --DekuStick Master
  7. A close contest... but Byrne doesn't do himself any favors by using the classic cliche Nintendo villain line, "All who stand in my way will be eliminated." Yes, eliminated. Because as we all know, villains don't kill, they just "eliminate" people. I can't find any other way to discredit Byrne, and I'm already struggling to do so... but there's nothing wrong with Linebeck, just lots of things that are awesome. Portal-Kombat
  8. Linebeck is amazing! He is better than Byrne in many aspects. Don't get me wrong, they are both awesome, but Linebeck has more character. Linebeck is in my top ten best characters of all time. Byrne is maybe in my top 20. --Braelolk Gold Ball & Chain Trooper (A Link to the Past).gif
  9. First and foremost, Linebecks's theme is simply just amazing. Second, Byrne really does portray the typical villan pretty well. Third, HE IS LINEBECK! Fourth, HE IS LINEBECK! Yeah that's pretty much it. Darax King Dodongo.png
  10. He's Linebeck. That is all the reason you need. Also, I like his coat. It's a cool coat. AK's right, he IS the Han Solo of Zelda... does that make Link Luke Skywalker, then? -Stars talk 18:43, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  11. Without this gut Link would have never even made it off of Mercay Island. Plus, you have to love his excentric personaility. This guy makes me laugh, he's awsome. Zoma89
  12. Actually, I like Byrne a lot, I mean, he IS awesome in 100 differant ways, but for all the reasons above, and for my special reason, he gets the vote. What reason you may ask? His Super-special-AWESOME! heroic theme moment after he is promised a wish. Plus, Line Solo FTW! Jioplip
  13. Linebeck has a coat. If Byrne and Linebeck were in a freezer guess who would live. Linebeck of course cuz Byrne woul freeze to death. Linebeck's coat would keep him alive unlike Byrne's t shirt. Linebeck's better and thank you for your time. A human
  14. Byrne's cool and everything, but Linebeck is just...better. Don't really know what else to say. He Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 23:14, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
  15. I think AK has already said it all. --TheUltimateHokage88Arwing.png
  16. Lineback is awesome. First off, his theme is the best in that pile of crap soundtrack that is phantom hourglass, AND he is just plain awesome. I also liked his little sidequest in ST where you have to use his letter and find his grave and stuff.Hylianhero777 (talk) 19:28, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
  17. He am coolio! Dawn Of A New Day (is cool) Dawn Of A New Day
  18. I LOVE THIS MAN!!!!!! Zelda Fan 888 (talk) 04:03, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
  19. linebeck is so funny--Waddle It (talk) 21:11, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
  20. After much deliberation, I've decided that I like him more, although I may change my mind later. -Isdrakthül 21:13, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
  21. He's the best Zelda character of all time. zdmshadow
  22. I've changed my mind. I'm not sure why I didn't vote for Linebeck in the first place. Maybe I was distracted by a certain someone's huge, mechanical arm... TheMidna 01:09, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
  24. AK already said it. How could you NOT vote for Linebeck? Oddball 464 18:23, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
  25. Last second voting. —Baltro [ talk · edits ] 22:05, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

  1. Yeah he's awesome because he has a piece of paper. "Super Paper Cut!"
  2. Its Linebeck, I mean Byrne was cool and all but I liked Linebeck better 'cause he was funnier and had a EPIC theme song.
  3. I like his theme song and PH is a better game. It is also much funner to be on a boat than a train.
  4. I love both Staven (byrne) and Linebeck. Buth Linebeck is in both SS and PH. Pluss he is way more cool than Staven (byrne).
  5. Linebeck is more awesome than Byrne. His Shake Attack pwns all. :D
  6. Go linebeck!!!!!!!! He pwns Byrne.
  7. Really... there's no competition here. Linebeck is amazing. Case closed.
  8. He's awesome
  9. Better theme song, despite Brynes being kinda awesome, also his hat in the second game kicks ass. as does his line "That ring was worth three times that much... crud."
  10. This was actually a tough one, but Byrne only helped Link 'cause he got shot in the face. Other than that, this is a really close vote.
  11. Definitely Linebeck. We've been through 2 games with a Linebeck, and Byrne was an evil person who tried to kill Link. Linebeck may have been annoying sometimes, but so was Midna, right? Yay Linebeck!!!!!
  12. Linebeck pwns Bryne
  13. made of win with a slight dose of awsome
  14. Dude....Linebeck is awesome. His sarcastic, entertaining personality, cowardice, and eventual wisdom were some of my favorite parts of Phantom Hourglass. Byrne was so much less entertaining, brave as he is.
  15. He's hilarious!!!! hard choice, tho.
  16. How would you have gotten around without Linebeck? Ungrateful people. Besides, Linebeck - ebec = Link and Link is the hero. :)

Peanut Gallery

Thank god I'm not the only one who loved Byrne's fight music! --Jäzzi (talk) 02:05, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

I loved the fight and the music, but he was super easy. I only lost 1/2 of a heart. For such a buff character, you'd think those attacks would do a little bit more damage. Portal-Kombat
I, um... Think I died once because I didn't exactly know what I was doing. The music in boss fights always gets me. The mini-boss music always gets me in Wind Waker. --Jäzzi (talk) 03:54, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
I like the OoT dungeon music the most. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 04:38, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
You know me, I like short names the best. --AuronKaizer! 04:44, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Molgera's music. It was stuck in my head, and I couldn't fall asleep because it kept replaying. --Jäzzi (talk) 10:59, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

And look now, we have people voting for Bryne because he's ripped, and has a giant claw. Not saying you can't do that, I just feel that it makes more sense to vote for the one you like. This is kinda the thing that will happen with Flute Boy vs. Skull Kid. Aside from a few honest votes, the majority of the Skull Kid votes will be: He's from MM/He has Majora's Mask/He is from Majora's Mask/etc. And if I'm wrong great, I would really love to see that people vote for the one they like more. But if I'm right.....-- C2 / CC 10:46, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

And you're right. That is what will happen. In fact, it's probably already happening in the suggestions area. --Jäzzi (talk) 10:59, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
And with my vote Staven takes the lead. WOw go Staven. Also I have want to ask you AK because of your crossed Staven in your suggestion, have you played the European spirit tracks yet or are you still just using the pirated copy? Oni Dark Link 17:44, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Nope, just pointing out how lame it is. --AuronKaizer! 18:37, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Not so fast, Oni, I just made it even. A giant claw cannot beat Linebeck's coat. -Stars talk 18:46, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Indeed, Linebeck's coat is very much win. - Jioplip
Nuff said. Darax
What if those are the reasons they like him? -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
Linebeck's coat + SHAKE ATTACK = Pwnage. --DekuStick Master

Anonymous vote #3 makes me want to cry for a number of reasons. -Isdrakthül 23:38, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Which side? Cause if it's for Linebeck, I think I understand why. More funner ARGH! I'm a grammar nerd/english freak/grammar pirate/aspiring author the word funner doesn't exsit. and i don't think PH is more fun the STJäzzi (talk) 02:18, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
Funner is a word: Look here. However, "More funner" IS improper use of grammar... That person actually wrote "Much funner" which is proper grammar. --DekuStick Master
MY TEACHERS LIED TO ME!!! Jäzzi (talk) 02:38, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
It's also because he turned this into a game vs. game fight (which people do way too often) and then turned it into a mode-of transportation fight from there. This is me, but I can't log in right now. -Isdrakthül
That's disputed. -Isdrakthül 03:58, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
If we're gonna do a mode of transportation fight, then Epona deffinately wins. Jäzzi (talk) 04:00, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

He/she voted for Linebeck so thank you, but Anonymous vote #4 for Linebeck is Even after AK made a warning. Darax

Wow! I never knew linebeck made an apperance in SS! Spirt Ship FTW!Hylianhero777 (talk) 19:15, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
He doesn't, though, that's what AK was saying. -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
Hylianhero, I'm sorry, but now you are no better than the anonymous voter. In fact, you had more clues than he did. Darax
I think he was being facetious. -Isdrakthül 01:19, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think so. -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
Hmm. Facetious. Always been a good word.Darax

Wow, it's still a tie. -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin

Wow... I thought more people would get the sarcasm... I was refrencing that not only did the anonymous voter say Linebeck was alive in ST, but he also called it SS instead of ST. that why I said "Spirit ship" instead of spirit tracks. Guess it was a bad joke on my part.Hylianhero777 (talk) 19:33, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Did anyone even reference your remark about "Spirit ship"? --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 20:55, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Current score is Byrne: 26.5 Linebeck: 25.5. Wow. When was the last time we had one that was this close? Sir Real (talk) 21:56, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Here's one. -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
week 98, aka the one just before this, ended pretty close too 13:39, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
This is perfectly tied at 28! Portal-Kombat
Still a very close race. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 19:49, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Yeah, Anon voter #9 on Byrne's side. Let's see how you did, shall we? 1. I referred to the reaction for the reason that it was memorable. It doesn't matter what he did in the other parts of the game. i didn't refer to them specifically. 2. I stated my opinion, and you stated yours. We're both technically right. I was stating it as a reason why I voted for him. 3. Linebeck only went against Link in the end because he was possessed. He apologized, too, even though it wasn't even his fault. And I referred to the shaking thing. SHAKE ATTACK PWNS ALL!!! 4. Your opinion is that Linebeck's coat is nerdy? Well, MY opinion is that Byrne's "bandanna thing" around his mouth makes him look like a terrorist. Happy? Also, nerds are the best people on Earth, I'm one myself, so yeah. (That's my opinion.) 5. How would you know that? Shaking can cause severe whiplash and internal bleeding, and if prolonged, it CAN kill a person. That's why you don't shake babies. And Link doesn't count as a baby, either... Linebeck COULD kill Byrne by shaking him. 6. Linebeck actually helped fight Bellum, as I said. That single decision saved everyone. What did Byrne do? He lost to two kids, got beat up by his employer (that says something about his work), and all he did in the BIG EPIC FINAL BATTLE was make a shield. Yep. A shield, instead of helping to fight. 7. HE IS LINEBECK refers to all the reasons i already listed, PLUS those my fellow Linebeck supporters listed. 8. He may be those things, but he did change in the end. So did Byrne. I say Linebeck changed more though, he DID help fight (Cowardly gets striked out), he declined a wish for treasure (Selfishness gets striked out), and at the end when Ciela talks to him, he turns around for some reason. I think that he was actually going to say goodbye, but he passed back into the other world before he could. While Linebeck was getting possessed, he said Link's name, possibly for thanking him/asking for help. Byrne didn't talk at all while he was getting killed my Malladus. --DekuStick Master

anonymous voter 10 on Byrne's side stole my vote...this amuses meDevdude (talk) 20:43, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Linebeck doesn't stick you in a trap. He's in a trap. -Isdrakthül 20:46, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
well you wind up in the trap that he was in and he runs away soo plus its been a while since ive played it so some of the details are a little fuzzyDevdude (talk) 20:54, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
You don't end up in the trap. You go search for sea charts. -Isdrakthül 20:57, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
i told you details are fuzzy!Devdude (talk) 21:05, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Updating in a little mo'; this is proof for W. --AuronKaizer! 21:38, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Week 98: Dekadin vs. Kamo

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LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!! It is now time for this week's battle, being the ninety-eighth in the series. The Spectacular 100th Fight is looming ever closer, but we mustn't lose sight of the present, and this week, we have a very special battle for you. A battle between two depressed (and depressing) social recluses who shun the society in which they find themselves. However, with the public spotlight now thrust upon them, which of these anti-social characters will walk out the winner? Let us see what has brought these two combatants here today.

In the purple corner is a young Labrynnan boy who likes living in darkness. Reader of touching literature, he does not initially appear to have that great of a sense of humor, but show him a joke manifested as an oversized moustache and he will laugh as heartily as you'll ever be likely to. THIS... IS... DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKAAAAAAAAADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!

In the light red corner is a young man from the Great Sea, who has appeared in the Temple of Courage before. Convinced that nobody understands how he feels, hopelessly in love with a girl, he gazes at the moon, which appears to comfort him. While maintaining an uncaring façade, a sensitive, likable guy is found underneath. THIS... IS... KAAAAAAAAAAAAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

And now, these two similar characters will battle it out in the ring. This week's battle is sponsored by Johnson & Co., your one-stop shop for legal advice. If there is anyone who wishes to object to this battle, speak now or forever hold your peace? Nothing? No? Good. Then there is nothing to say but... LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!!!

Votes for Dekadin

  1. I just thought it was kind of cool to see one of those usually chipper (albeit sometimes weird and funny) kids as a self-obsessed, anti-social guy. Used the same sprites even. Also, the Funny Joke scene is hilarious. Well, when I was a kid anyway. Now I just laugh at the fact that I laughed at it. Oh, and I wanna read the Touching Book. His name is also cool. It just is. Sounds a bit like a Final Fantasy character. --AuronKaizer! 01:18, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Second vote! He looks sadder, and every vote counts. Also, his name almost has "Deku" in it, and he likes mustaches. TheMidna 01:19, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  3. His plea moves me more, and his joy touches me. He gets my vote. The Gerudo Guy
  4. He is less weird and he is a freakin' kid! Kamo just goes googlie eyed over the moon at night, so he does't need a home, but this boy needs one. So pity vote... Super duh... AlpacaDoggie Mask.gif 01:53, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  5. "I'm an emo kid, non-conforming as can be, you'd be emo, too, if you looked just like me. I've got paint on my nails, and make-up on my face, I'm almost emo enough to start shaving my legs." this song describes this fight. -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
  6. There is always a certain sympathetic area in my heart for Dekadin. *sniff* Pie145
  7. part of the traade systemDevdude (talk) 06:32, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Aww, he's a coot wickle emo kiddie. You just want to hug him. Can't say the same for Kamo. Oh, and Dekadin has BLUE HAIR =D -Stars talk 06:54, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  9. This guy was awesome and I dont care about the moon An Octorok from The Minish CapDmerka10 An Octorok from The Minish Cap
  10. Kamo kind of annoyed me, what with his whole "Linda doesn't like me and the moon is my only joy and nobody understands me and I hate everything and you're so annoying because just like everybody else you don't understand me but oh wait you do understand me well here's something for your trouble" business. Dekadin was an overall better character. He was self-absorbed, just like all stereotypically depressed characters, but at least he didn't wallow in self-pity all the time until finally meeting a kid that can take color photos of a huge chunk of rock going in circles around the planet that somehow means that he understands him. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 09:27, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  11. One who finds happiness in the dark...sounds familiar.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 14:54, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  12. Never heard of this guy before, but when I saw the picture and read the article, I knew I'd vote for him. And I don't like Kamo. LunarChild (talk) 15:16, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  13. I detest depression but I think Dekadin portrayed it better. Like why does Kamo act completely out of character at night even when there is no moon. Stick to one personalty and only change is something life changing happens! Oni Dark Link 16:10, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  14. I see a bit of myself in this guy, likes book, sorta depressed, and never gets any jokes, but especially the depressed part. Plus Kamo is just...... pathetic compared to this guy, he only cares about himself and his large hunk of light reflecting geode in space. ---Tehmeganerd (talk) 19:49, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  15. It has already all been said. --Birdman5589 (talk) 20:02, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  16. Because the reasons here are stronger, imo. Especially TM's Deku observation! --DekuStick Master
  17. He is awsome and how do you love the moon? --Phantom Zelda (talk) 22:05, May 10, 2010 (UTC)Phantom Zelda
  18. Win --DarkTriforce (talk) 00:57, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
  19. No specific reason, I just like him better. TheUltimateHokage88 (talk) 17:55, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
  20. Very simple reason. He is better and Kamo is loser... - McGillivray227 01:59, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
  21. I vote for this one becasue he is better than the other. --Poe Woe (talk) 07:06, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

Votes for Kamo

  1. First vote for Kamo!! J-man Zelda Fan (talk) 01:23, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I couldn't decide, so I followed my thyroid gland. -Isdrakthül 01:25, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  3. We are both moved by the wonderful moon God created. (I know, I went all sappy on ya.) -ZeldaQueen12
  4. I sympathize with Kamo. Dekadin is just an oddball. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 02:42, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  5. He had more of a story with him. Wish they could have elaborated on him further.-- C2 / CC 03:19, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Kamo is the best.. --A.Burr (talk) 05:00, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Hooray for Kamo! Believe it or not, I had a tough time at first finding out the answer to his riddle. My first guess was the top of the poles around the room in Lenzo's gallery. Portal-Kombat
  8. I have only played Wind waker Call of Duty Pro (talk) 19:48, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  9. I don't know who to vote for, so I'll just go with the better game.--Lincas1Vaati (The Minish Cap).gif 21:23, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  10. Dear god, the moon is falling? Is anybody paying attention to me? —Baltro [ talk · edits ] 00:21, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
  11. I suppose I just like him better. Darax King Dodongo.png
  12. Meep. --Meep Meep (talk)
  13. What Meep Meep said. - Jioplip
  14. What Jiolip said about what meep meep said. - Fooster
  15. What Fooster said about what Jioplip said about what Meep Meep said. pink_link
  16. Kamo seems like the less stereotypical character to me. Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:21, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

  1. Anyone who loves the moon is cool in my book.
  2. i agree with the comment above. and you kind of have to feel sorry for the dude
  3. He's the only one who's game I've played
  4. come on, why is moon-watching Kamo losing again? Someone who spents his time looking at the moon should easily beat a guy who doesn't even get out of the darkness.
  5. How can anyone NOT see the awesomeness of this guy?! I like how realistic he feels compared to the cartoon silliness of most of WW's cast (in my opinion)
  6. Only because Oracles is the only Zelda game I've never played. Plus, Kamo lost to Grog last time so gotta give him some credit. Final reason: as the comments above, Kamo has true emotion and you can really relate to him.

Peanut Gallery

It's here! Just use the Lens of Truth to find it! TheMidna 19:55, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

"Especially TM's Deku observation!" and "What Meep Meep said." Hah! TheMidna 19:55, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
you notice that there are no anon votes for Dekadin An Octorok from The Minish CapDmerkaGU10An Octorok from The Minish Cap 17:34, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
That's weird. TheMidna 02:04, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Week 97: Gillian vs. Mama


24.5 > 9.5
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!! Welcome to the Dark Horse round that is the 97th battle in the Temple of Courage! This week, we have a battle against two famous barmaids of The Legend of Zelda lore, battling it out for the grand prize: being featured in the Duff calendar. The two can dish out the brewskies, but can they dish out pain in this perilous battle between one another? We'll just have to see! Let us meet our fighters in the center ring.

In the blue corner is the owner of the Cafe Bar on Windfall Island, the de facto capital of the Great Sea. Always happy to serve customers, be they little men with serious aversions towards noises or bloodthirsty, bomb-stealin' pirates, and the lover of a Fishman... THIS... IS... GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

In the pink corner is the proprietor of her self-named cafe in Hyrule Town, the geographical and economical center of Hyrule. Always staying in the loop as far as gossip is concerned, and being self-employed, has the chance to fuse Kinstones during working hours once in a while... THIS... IS... MAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

And now, paid for by the Trilateral Commission, it's time to indulge your animal impulses by watching barmaids battle it out. What is there to say but...LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RRRRRRRRUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!!!

Votes for Gillian

  1. I like Gillian. She seems thoughtful and nice and that. I really hate gossip and moles. You do the math here children. Gillian = AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! --AuronKaizer! 02:17, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  2. You know what, I don't think anyone could have explained it better than ol' AuronKaizer here. - McGillivray227 02:22, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  3. I agree with McGillivray's agreement with AuronKaizer. -Isdrakthül 03:17, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Baltro [ talk · edits ] 03:51, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  5. AuronKaizer is right. How helpful is gossip to the actual quest? Gillian is probably the most helpful in terms of the main quest as opposed to Mama. ---Pie145
  6. On top of being an overall more likable character than Mama, Gillian has the nerve to date a talking fish, which (though disturbing and kind of creepy) takes an unparalleled sense of pervertedness guts. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 05:38, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  7. I don't like the other one, don't know why, I like Gillian though, so here's my vote!- Jioplip
  8. Gillian here is tough enough to handle these rude pirates nearly every single night. She is obviously much tougher than Mama. Braelolk Gold Ball & Chain Trooper (A Link to the Past).gif
  9. Gillian seems like a more like-able character with better traits, a cooler personality, and a winning attitude. Plus I like her better. Darax King Dodongo.png
  10. I feel somewhat sorry for that prolonged visit by Tetra's crew. She deserves this victory because of that. LunarChild (talk) 12:51, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  11. Even though Wind Waker was not one of my favorite games, in this case, cartoon 3D is better than 2D.--Lincas1Vaati (The Minish Cap).gif 20:13, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  12. personally this was a better game, it kicks -Fooster 04:23, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  13. The fact that her name has 'gill' in it is reason enough to me. -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
  14. Poor Gillian, having to deal with a sick father and still have to run the "cafe" and put up with grumpy sailors and pirate parties. Portal-Kombat
  15. I hate both. Gillian's cafe is much better than the other thing's cafe though.---Tehmeganerd (talk) 21:39, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  16. I've never played Minish Cap, but I have played Wind Waker, so... TheUltimateHokage88 (talk) 22:01, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
  17. No reason really.....she just seems pretty cool. And I always did like hanging out at Windfall Island.-- C2 / CC 01:04, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
  18. At first, I was going to vote for Mama, but two things changed that: her name (Mama?) and that Gillian's storyline is much more developed. TheMidna 20:08, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
  19. Goooooo GILLIAN!!! ZeldaQueen12
  20. I have nothing novel or interesting to say here. Gillian's just more interesting. Jedimasterlink (talk) 21:09, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
  21. +1 Gillian! Woo!! The Postman

Anonymous votes

  1. I just like Wind Waker
  2. Mama looks too much like a whore then a bar-woman. I prefer the more plain type:P
  3. I dont have any of these games but Wind Waker PWNS.
  4. i would have to choose this side because she actually looks and semms to act the part, no offence
  5. She is from WW and I never played Mama's game.
  6. She's taller. LOL, just kidding. This is in respect of Wind Waker. And also, Mama is from Minish Cap, FYI.
  7. I didn't even know that Mama's name was that, she is a very, very less important character

Votes for Mama

  1. Mama mia! How does she have no votes yet. Fusing Kinstones is a very important issue. --Birdman5589 (talk) 06:24, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  2. This girl has hair to die for. Also, the ToC needs TMC love -Stars talk 12:11, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  3. I fully expected to vote for Gillian, but how can I let poor Mama go down without a fight? --Ingo the great (talk) 21:04, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  4. (voted just for this joke) That's MAMA mama to you!Hylianhero777 (talk) 20:43, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
  5. I always found Gillian to be kind of rude.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 01:09, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
  6. idunno when she turns around its like some model or something...?i realy dunnoDevdude (talk) 03:41, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Lets hear it for tiny game sprites! And Minish Cap...Ok you got me, this is more of a game vote than a character vote. I should be so ashamed!... --ComeBackKing (talk) 20:17, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
  8. She at least has normal hair. Super duh... AlpacaDoggie Mask.gif 22:12, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

  1. Gillian's hair annoys me. ...What? Oh yeah, and pity vote.
  2. +1 mama
  3. For The Minish Cap!

Peanut Gallery

Bleh, I just don't find this fight interesting... I don't feel like voting... --DekuStick Master

For the love of all things 2-D you should vote for Mama then ;) --Birdman5589 (talk) 09:01, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
Or perhaps for Gillian. -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
I refuse all offers. --DekuStick Master
I figured you would. Just gotta throw out my 2-D love support whenever I can. --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:32, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Gillian is wiping the floor of the Cafe Bar with Mama. -Isdrakthül 00:02, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Here's a tip for you, you'd better not start a game of cafe-related puns that you cannot possibly wine. I'm just Shuyin'. --AuronKaizer! 00:07, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
This just takes the cake. One day, TMC will win in the ToC, and hell will freeze over. -Stars talk 00:10, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
There's a village called Hell in Norway, and it freezes over every winter. -Isdrakthül 01:10, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
There's also a town called Hell in Michigan. Every year, they have a marathon called Running Through Hell. -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin

Umm... Anonymous voter who said you "prefer the more plain type"... It's not like you have a shot with either of them... ever. --Braelolk Gold Ball & Chain Trooper (A Link to the Past).gif

Exactly what he said. Darax King Dodongo.png

i don't mean to be rude or anything but, did anyone besides me notice that the intro says red when Mama is backrounded by pink 13:57, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

That's not rude. =) Thank you! I'll fix it. TheMidna 15:49, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
Do not add any new changes to the markup without discussing them. --AuronKaizer! 17:38, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Sorry. TheMidna 17:45, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
about the "not trying to be rude" thing, i add that to a lot now because last time i commented in the peanut gallery, i was criticized 21:13, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Week 96: Gekko vs. Grim Creeper


25 > 12
Grim Creeper
LLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNN! For the ninety-sixth consecutive time, Zeldapedia brings you the winner of sweeps week in fall programming, the testosterone-filled cultural phenomenon that is the TEMPLE. OF. COOOOOOOOOOOOOOURAGE! And this week, we have a battle against two mini-bosses who battle the hero, whom we all know and love, not only once but twice! Let's see the Tale of the Tape of this week's contestants on the JumboTron!

In the orange corner, we have a breed of mischievous amphibian creatures with a mocking laughter and disdain for heroes. Whether riding a shell-backed tortoise or messing around inside a pile of goo, they always makes sure to torture their opponents as much as possible...THEY. ARE. THE GEEEEEEEEKKOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!

In the red corner is a creature who is no newcomer to the Temple of Courage. Always surrounded by his minions, whom he considers his brothers, this fiendish apparition guards Eagle's Tower, and upon the defeat of his brothers, retreats, only to return later to protect the Organ of Evening Calm, riding a bird mount...THIS. IS. THE GRRRRRRRRRIMMMMM CRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPERRRRRRRRR!!!

Now then, we have two famous mini-bosses of the Zelda series, ready and willing to tear off each others' heads in this grueling upcoming battle. I've overspent my welcome so, LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBLE!!!

Votes for Gekko

  1. He may be a little annoying, but he's a fun mini-boss in my favourite Zelda game! I love the battle against the goo. In Grim Creeper's defense, I actually struggled a little to find out how to defeat him. He's cool and all, but come on man, it's Gekko! KYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI!!! --AuronKaizer! 21:34, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Turtles and piles of goo pwn. --DekuStick Master
  3. Gekko rocks my socks. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 21:38, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  4. I think they're pretty darn cool, as a matter of fact. J-man Zelda Fan (talk) 21:39, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Ingo rules. I mean, I like Gekko. Ingo the great (talk) 21:49, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  6. CALVALRY FTW ---Tehmeganerd (talk) 23:22, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Heck, it's a giant poisonous (at least I'm assuming it is, from the color) frog against the way-overused skeleton enemy. This guy gets a turtle invincible to everything but a surprise attack from beneath, while Captain Bones over there gets some puny bird? Haingi 7:29 PM, April 25, 2010 (GMT -8)
  8. The fact that these guys are so annoying makes it so satisfying to destroy them in the end. And yes, the turtle is pretty amazing. Darax King Dodongo.png
  9. Grim Creeper annoyed me. Gekko's just funnier looking.--MaloMart (talk) Malo.png 00:25, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  10. I love the battle where you fight him in the Great Bay Temple. It's pretty epic, what with his attack where he completely batters Link with a bunch of punches and kicks and the part where you have to freeze his shield and then drop it from the ceiling to smash it open. Portal-Kombat
  11. He's insane, he climbs walls, and his mount is a freakin' monster turtle for god's sakes! He is one of the best mini-bosses out there! Braelolk Gold Ball & Chain Trooper (A Link to the Past).gif
  12. If not for the label, You couldn't tell who the other is from Zelda games. Gekko, you know who he is. --ComeBackKing (talk) 01:40, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  13. Anything that can tame a magical teleporting spike turtle, manipulate evil jell-o, and still turn into a singing frog after it's all over has my support. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 06:18, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Have to go with the Majora's Mask. But I can tell this was very hard to choose. LunarChild (talk) 13:11, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  15. Gekko is awesome! Plus, he's the only one I really know. Waker-of-the-Winds (talk)18:58, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  16. The nubs over there are wrong, and mah bros over here are totally winrar. Let's do this! -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Anonymous.png Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
  17. Miyamoto must have clicked CTRL-SHIFT-AWESOME to make this character... He also uses to make the other awesome characters. - McGillivray227 01:29, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
  18. A laughing orange frog who rides around on turtles, in goo, and is just fun to kill, or ANOTHER grim reaper parody/imitation thing. It's a little obvious, plus MM rules. - Jioplip
  19. I don't have a preference really. Gekko is more interesting to me I suppose.....-- C2 / CC 11:29, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
  20. Yes, a skeleton fighter might riding a big bird might sound cool, but, honestly, even Midna could ride a bird. A Gekko is the only boss that I've seen that can ride a gigantic turtle. --Lincas1Vaati (The Minish Cap).gif 22:29, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
  21. I'm going with the insane creature that tried to drown me in goo. TheMidna 21:39, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
  22. This guy was such an annoying boss when paired with the Mad Jelly. But looking back on it, that fight was rather fun. Oddball 464 18:58, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
  23. What can I say? He's more fun to fight than the Grim Creeper.Draconicus (talk) 21:18, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

  1. Majora's Mask = most epic Zelda EVER. Plus, I nearly ripped my hair out of my scalp trying to kill this guy the second time, and anyone like that gets my vote
  2. Gekko is bad hombre. Plus, he's the only one I know. Besides, the 'undead miniboss' is WAY overused by now.
  3. It is SOOOOO annoying that it gets my vote.
  4. i hated being a deku and the timing for this baddy was well set to get my vote. also i do not beleive that a grim reaper could knock the turtle he rides on into the air.

Votes for Grim Creeper

  1. Dude, he's the Grim Creeper. Not only is his name epically punny, he has one of the most thought-provoking quotes in all of Link's Awakening -Stars talk 21:36, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I never really liked the Gekkos, and Grim Creeper seems pretty interesting. Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:18, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  3. What Stars said. That pretty much says it all. --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:26, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  4. I like them both, but the Grim Creeper is losing, so... TheUltimateHokage88 (talk) 00:09, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  5. The Grim Creeper is based of the Grim Reaper, figure of death. Anymore to be said? ---Pie145
  6. Pie hath spoken it thusly.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 13:05, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Give me the Grim! --Cloud vs. Link (talk) 00:30, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Grim creeper vs lizard...clear win.--Dark Arrow 162 (talk) 22:18, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Its the fricking Grim Creeper who wouldnt vote for him other than the people that vote for the loser the Gekko.--Obliviona2 (talk) 18:41, April 28, 2010 (EST)
  10. I havnt played neiither game. --Leave for California (talk) 02:01, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
  11. I haven't seen ethier of them, but I say Grim Creeper seems more powerful since I red their aritacles. (Wikia Boy

Anonymous votes

  1. He's a skeleton in a robe and he has bats. What's not to love? -Isdrakthul (, April 25, 2010 (UTC))
  2. Preemptive pity vote. Also because I hate, hate, HATE Gekko with an unexplainable burning passion.

Peanut Gallery

to whomever made the opening-- i saw only one problem with it.. Gekko is an- get ready for the big surprise- amphibian. which is kind of made obvious due to his highly webbed toes and obssessive ribbiting

I would advise you NOT insult AK. After all, he's a lot more sarcastic than you. --DekuStick Master
Also, he's an- get ready for the big surprise- administrator. People who insult administrators tend not to last long. -Isdrakthul ( 00:40, April 26, 2010 (UTC))
Please, guys...being an admin does not in any way reduce my capacity for errors, you know. Thanks for the correction, but you might want to present it in a better fashion in the future... --AuronKaizer! 03:52, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Indeed, I know from experience that adminship will expose you to new ways of possible errors, when I became an admin on a different wiki, I sludged up on my FIRST DAY.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 13:11, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
I'm fine with him pointing out the mistake. In fact, I was about to do that myself. It was the insult that I didn't like. -Isdrakthul ( 14:06, April 26, 2010 (UTC))
I think that- get ready for the big suprise-both DSM and Isdrakthul are confused.-- C2 / CC 22:21, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Look, can we stop correcting all the intros they post? It is kinda getting annoying...
sorry for the insult AK, I didnt mean to be so rude

How come Gekko's description is part of the opening paragraph instead of being separate?--DarkTriforce (talk) 22:27, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

90% chance AK forgot to press the enter button. --Jäzzi (talk) 22:31, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, there's a 100% chance that it was someone else. --AuronKaizer! 22:40, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry. I really don't know how that happened. When I went to edit the page, my computer did something weird and it showed the actual page in the editing box thing instead of the coding for the page, but I was still able to edit it. However, I only added my comment to the peanut gallery and did not try to mess up the introduction. Does my computer have a virus or something? -Isdrakthul ( 22:59, April 26, 2010 (UTC))

Week 95: Hyrule Guards vs. Phantom Guardians

Hyrule Guard
"'Phantom Guardians'"
Phantom Guardian
21.5 < 31
Phantom Guardian
LLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! Zeldapedia once again brings you another adrenaline-filled, action-packed week of the TEMPLE OF COURAGE! With just five weeks to go until the big 100, this week's fight is between two groups of heavily armored and bewitched guardians! Without further ado, let's introduce our contestants!In the teal corner we have a group of guards who were formerly the Hylian King's loyal subjects. Brainwashed by Agahnim, they will charge or launch projectiles at anyone who gets in their way. Clad in armor the same color as our hero, THEY. ARE. THE HYRULE GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDS!!!

In the grey corner we have enemies that are so strong that Link needs a special sword just to hurt them! Forever guarding a mystic temple, these bad dudes will slice and dice you with their enormous swords if they spot you. Ghostly guards that get stronger with every rank, THEY. ARE. THE PHAAAAAAAAAAAANTOM GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDIANS!!!

With everyone safely seated in the stands so our combatants won't charge them, we will know which one of these vigliant soldiers will triumph. Who will take the gold and earn the favor of their masters? That, my dear voters, is up to you. Now that introductions are out of the way:


Votes for Hyrule Guards

  1. I'm just sick and tired of Phantoms. The Hyrule Guards are a diverse enemy group with many cool battle tactics (although easier to beat than a snake on Whacking Day) and generally badass character design. But Phantoms...jeez, I hate those things by now... --AuronKaizer! 22:03, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
  2. These guys, they are just plain epic with any other word or combination of words in any language being inadequate to describe them. Rock on, little soldier dudes.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 22:32, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
  3. These guys are the real troopers. Plus, I'd rather kill a guy when I see them, not play some stealth thing that barely works. If I wanted stealth, maybe I'd play a game that is actually made for the stealth genre, just saying. - McGillivray227 22:50, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Good memories of pwning these n00bs like there's no tomorrow (which, as it seems, there was). -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Kana: ???? ? ? ?????, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurin
  5. There is a version of them with itty bitty daggers that don't even attack you. Now how awesome is that. I always thought those guys were good and only accidentally hurt you so I never would kill them. When a bad guy can convince you to just let the be, then they have something going for them.--Birdman5589 (talk) 23:01, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Agreed and agreed. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 23:03, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
  7. We should give the Phantoms a break and return to this classic, staple enemy- at least for a handheld title. Portal-Kombat
  8. Phantoms can be cool sometimes and whatever, but the sheer annoyingness of having to run around avoiding them constantly is wearing. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 00:26, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  9. in four swords adventures its fun to just go in cross or horizontal formation or vertical formation and take out like an army of these guysDevdude (talk) 00:43, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  10. I'm Phantomed out for now.--DarkTriforce (talk) 01:02, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  11. After the last visit to the tower of spirits, to pissed off for them... Superduh...AlpacaDoggie Mask.gif 02:06, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  12. Phantoms are really overused these days. These guys are the classics. Oddball 464 02:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  13. My favourite pastime is scaring them in wolf form.Also,phantoms are the worst enemies ever in multiplayer Spirit Tracks.--Farore.din.nayru (talk) 15:49, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Phantoms are neat and all, but it gets annoying having to run every time one sees you. Plus, you don't have to work very hard to kill Hyrule Guards. --Lincas1Vaati (The Minish Cap).gif 00:08, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  15. Meep. --Meep Meep (talk) 14:19, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
  16. I dont feel like pointing out why these are obviously better Oni Dark Link 16:21, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
  17. i luv this idea. --Blades of Chaos (talk) 20:47, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
  18. I'd say they're pretty much tied. The only reasons I chose this are that they A) are from A Link to the Past, my fav 2D LoZ game, and B) their heads look almost exactly like Bubble Man from Megaman 2. Haingi 1:41 PM, April 25, 2010 (GMT -8)
  19. I don't like Phantom guards at all The Answer (talk)

Anonymous votes

  1. Phantoms are old news.
  2. Way too classic to be beaten, especially by Phantoms.
  3. I've never played Link to the Past, but this I do know about it; you finally get to kill those annoying as hell guards. They got my vote
  4. This is only my second vote ever (sorry about last week--I'M NEW!), but, having played Four Swords Adventures, these guys are much more enjoyable. The way their captains shout, "BACK! GO!", the way they pop up from the grass with crossbows, etc. 5:58 PM, April 22, 2010
  5. Phantoms are weird. These guys are the best. They could beat the phantoms anyday!

Votes for Phantom Guardians

  1. Phantoms are way better than hyrule guards. Its fun doing the stealth stuff and dodging them. Plus hyrule guards just run at you with swords. A human 22:23, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Just got Spirit Tracks, and my opinion of these guys has changed completely. —Baltro [ talk · edits ] 22:55, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
  3. In my opinion, the Phantoms are one of the best ways they've incorporated stealth into Zelda. That being said, I vote for phantoms from Hourglass, not Spirit Tracks, for their introduction and how awesome it felt at the end when you cound FINALLY shank them with the (master reproduction) Sword. --ComeBackKing (talk) 23:01, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Well, these guys appear in two games, you can control them by having Zelda possess them, they have a really cool death animation (PH only), and yet the bile- yellow colored generic enemies are getting all the votes. Dawn Of A New Day (is cool)
  5. I really like the new phantom types in Spirit Tracks. J-man Zelda Fan (talk) 01:48, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Let me just say that both of these enemies totally @#!*% me off, but I found the Phantoms much cooler.--MaloMart (talk) Malo.png 02:01, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  7. They're invincible bad- @#!*% , why wouldn't I vote for them? Jioplip
  8. Haven't played its games, but for some reason I want to vote for Phantom. Jedimasterlink (talk) 02:59, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Phantoms are more difficult to beat, more powerful and plus, Zelda was one (well, she possessed one or two anyway) so GO PHANTOMS! pink_link
  10. Every time a phantom popped up because I was running too fast or whatever, I had tons of fun running around them or going into a safe zone and shooting them with arrows. Plus phantoms look a lot cooler than the guards. DaraxKing Dodongo.png
  11. Phantoms: They're Hyrule Guards on steroids! They are bigger, tougher, and harder to kill. 'Nuff said. --Braelolk Ball & Chain Trooper (A Link to the Past).gif
  12. How could anyone not vote for Phantoms? This is sure to be one sided. Wait! They are losing? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?Ingo the great (talk) 02:23, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  13. This was a really close one for me, but the phantoms have a bit more varitey then the gurads. they are also much harder to beat, and I love messing with them (whipping them from a safe zone so they just turn around like, "huh?")--Hylianhero777 (talk) 19:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Go Phantoms!!!!!!!!!! Zeldafan777
  15. Phantoms are annoying, but it's fun to trick them and make them look stupid. Also, controlling a Phantom is fun (in ST). --DekuStick Master Fire Wizzrobe (The Minish Cap).gif
  16. Phantoms are epic. TheUltimateHokage88 (talk) 05:19, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
  17. I <3d the warp phantoms. I liked the eerie NUNUNUUUUUUUUUUUUH!!! thing they played whenever it came. And when one died, they turned around and looked at you like "You......." (PH) The first time I killed one, I thot i hadnt killed it completely, and it was a swift phantom, so I ran 4 my life! Ahh, memories... --ZeldaQueen12
  18. Phantom Guardians are wicked! I'm always having fun by teasing them and running for my life and if they catch you... WHAMMO! Their swords make it act like a game over when they hit Link. Long live the Phantom Guardians --User:TazAJ
  19. These guys are waaaaaaaaaaaay cooler. Zeerotytus (talk)
  20. Ooooooooooh.......I'm a ghost.....err, wrong kind of phantom. Anyway, I really like Phantoms. TheMidna 20:24, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
  21. They're freaking ghost knight's of awesomeness!--Dark Arrow 162 (talk) 22:04, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
  22. They're so much fun to screw with but when they catch you, you pay dearly. {{SUBST:User:Tectonium/sig}} 23:51, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
  23. "CAN'T YOU SEE I'M WORKING." They have style and character, enough said. LunarChild (talk) 06:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  24. These guys brought me back to my first days of gaming. Using stealth that sometime worked and if it didnt i would scream bloody murder and run the heck to the nearest cover. /\/\r.6r33|\| |-|@T (talk) 11:18, April 25, 2010 (UTC)Mr.Green hat
  25. These guys have more of a scary factor to them. ---Tehmeganerd (talk) 16:42, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
  26. They are pretty cool! In my opinion, on a strength scale of 1-10, I give them an 8, while I give Hyrulean Guards a 3. ---Pie145

Anonymous votes

  1. The Phantoms were fun and challenging to sneak around, while the Hyrule Guards were just generic enemies that weren't really that memorable for me. -Isdrakthul
  2. Phantoms look better and Phantoms are more fun to play!!!^^
  3. Phantom hourglass is my fave game! Go Phantoms!!:D
  4. Phantoms are much more bad- @#!*% .
  5. These guys may be ridiculously annoying, however in ST you can possess one and fight with it. That makes up for it all.
  6. With the right music (something chase-like), the Lost at Sea station in Spirit Tracks was really funny. Of course you had to take your own music, but just imagine how they would run after you. Like a children cartoon or something.
  7. Hylian guards were frustrating. When you tried to swipe them aside in the beginning, they would reflect your attacks with they're outstretched swords, which is so stupid! This makes for some ultra-cheap moves. Phantom guards, on the other hand, are fun to control, led for some creative puzzles, aren't as cheap in combat AND they look better. Period.
  8. The phantoms are FUN, not like those boring guards. In Spirit Tracks I find it fun hitting them with the whip, while standing in a safe zone.
  9. Phantoms are scary, yet fun to mess with, I even had a group of phantoms chasing me once.
  10. Phantoms say funny things in Spirit Tracks.

Peanut Gallery

Uh, who did the opening this week? A little underwhelming, don't you think?--MaloMart (talk) Malo.png 22:35, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

(Its the dry heat effect. You let it sizzle and then the fight occurs when people come for the bacon. Juuuust watch...)
That made almost no sense. I, for one, think that a better introduction is needed. -Isdrakthul ( 00:15, April 20, 2010 (UTC))
AK made the opening, and said for any user, I would think he means registered, to make a new one if they feel like it. Just check the history when he made it. - McGillivray227 01:14, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
I took the liberty of making the introduction. It's not much, but I think it'll suffice for the week. Oddball 464 02:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)*
Good job! --AuronKaizer! 02:40, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Farore.din.nayru, the fight is about Hyrule Guards. You're thinking of Hyrulean Soldiers. -Isdrakthul ( 01:07, April 21, 2010 (UTC))

My thoughts exactly. --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:08, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

i would like to give the pros and cons of both sides. hyrulian guards actually can be killed, buti believe there was a newer version (in link's awakening?). the phantoms are actually anoying in the aspect that they can't be killed until you get the phantom sword, but once you do, you can have all sorts of fun killing them for all the moments you watsed sneaking past them. how does that sound (if you have more pros or cons (or both) post them here, okay?:))

Uhh, I really don't know why you bothered to do this, but in any case, you didn't mention the Phantoms' ST appearance. Xykeb Yvolix Zraliv 06:28, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
The cool music that accompanies th phantoms. u forgot th@. The earliest game I've actually played is WW. (I did watch my grandpa play OoT when i was probably somewhere in between 3 and 5 though.) --ZeldaQueen12
I just think the hyrule guards are boring.-Olivia.
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