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Problem.

I have a problem while trying to upload a file. I can't select the game, type or licensing. The only option given is "None selected". Template:Nosig

Fixed. It was an issue with page caching. If ever the problem comes up again, you can fix it by purging the cache of these pages: MediaWiki:Games, MediaWiki:Filetype, and MediaWiki:Licenses.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. In the future, please sign your posts by adding four tildes (~~~~) to the end of your posts. This automatically adds your username and a timestamp so everyone can know who wrote the post and when. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 22:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Add Some Pictures, Videos, and Info about the prototype of the first Zelda game.

Since there is no info about the prototype about the first Zelda game, the original FDS version prototype. I'd figure that we should add info about it, it would be a great thing. Some photos can be added. I can take snapshots of this leaked prototype from 2010. It's official after all. Should there be a gallery dedicated to it. --Pwwnd123 (talk) 21:36, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

While we should definitely note that a prototype exists, I don't think we need to cover it in-depth. It's more up The Cutting Room Floor's alley and they already have a full article on it. — Hylian King ^[*] 22:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Hyrule Warriors Illustrations

For Hyrule Warriors theres a bunch of listings at the bottom of the page. i thnink it would be great to add one of the illustrations or even go more in depth and add gold skulltula info. but im thinking that pictures of completed illustrations and the dlc ones would be great. Ccw0100 (talk) 21:54, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

There are already images of all the Illustrations in its own article. You can also find the details on Gold Skulltulas in the Scenarios in Hyrule Warriors pages. Chuck (talk) 04:06, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

REQUEST : Page that lists iterations in order

–I think a page that gathers as much information as possible about re-releases of game would be very appreciated. Particularly for Ocarina of Time, but other games as well.

I'm looking for information on Twilight Princess, as I know the original release contained the infamous game-ending bug. This was fixed of course. However I was wondering if there was still a way to tell which of these early launch day copies has the bug without opening it.

This and the subsequent replay of this incident in Skyward Sword are just minor examples. For the latter it might be handy to note that all copies of the bundle are verified to contain the bug, just to drive home the point further. Servantofgod (talk) 00:41, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Moving the Names template

Hi all,

The staff was discussing our article format and Pakkun proposed that we move the Names in Other Regions template up into "Etymology" sections. They would be the last of section of articles before the Gallery.

So it would look something like this, this, or this.

This has a few advantages. For one, it gives editors space to write about the names in full paragraphs. Two, having a dedicated section makes it easier to find the table and edit it. Three, that information belongs in the main body of the article anyway, not below references and nav templates. The only downside I can see is that in some cases (like my last link) the table can create a big gap between the Etymology section and the next section down.

If anyone has suggestions or concerns before we move forward, please post them here. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 10:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Does look like a good idea. Not sure it will stop people from misrepresenting a name taken specifically from a European translation and misrepresenting it as applying to both sides of the Atlantic, though...--Shiningpikablu252 (talk) 16:40, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

So long as we stick only to official translations (we really need to clean up all of those pages too while we're at it), then I'm still fine with this. -The Goron Moron (talk) 17:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

I like this idea. --Planetbox (talk) 21:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Wind Waker artworks

Hello,

this page already offers quite a lot artworks of the original Wind Waker, but only a few of the new HD version. Could somebody with access to the Nintendo library upload files which are not already on the wiki, if they are more?

For example there isn't a version of the Master Sword in high resolution. All 3 uploaded Master Sword Stages have a pretty bad quality. Template:Nosig

We pretty much have all TWWHD artworks from the Assets Library, so basically they never released a Master Sword one. Also, don't forget to sign your posts with ~~~~. Chuck (talk) 19:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Gohma split issue

For quite some time now there has been an issue regarding the split of the gohma page. I, being a new user can not do much about this. I would ask that a staff member make a vote for this topic, and act on the decision. Minuet of forest

Question on WIP pages

I happen to be a big Hyrule Warriors fan, and want to submit to creating information on the game. My current project is resting in my sandbox, and is a page on Special Attacks. However, being new to the site, I feel, it may be more efficient to put it up as an actual page, with a WIP box on the top. This way, as contributions are added to the page, it can be updated and brought 'up to code' in ways I have yet to be experienced in.

Before making this decision, I would like to know if this would be allowed, or if I should just keep it in my sandbox and work on my own until it is finished. As it stands, it has yet to have all of the chart filled.

Thanks.Mr. Poe (talk) 05:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

First of all, awesome work that you've done so far! We could really use an article detailing each of the characters' Special Attacks, so thanks for helping us out! I would suggest that you add more about what a Special Attack really is (sort of like an introduction and overall use, the bazaar Badges that affect Special Attacks, etc.) so that the article can have more of an overall explanation of it instead of just listing each attack. I'm not sure if I explained myself correctly, but I think by looking at some of the Sword Techniques articles, such as Hidden Skill, Jump Attack, and Spin Attack, you can sort of see what I mean: they all in some shape or form mention what the attack is used for, how to perform it, and even any upgrades it may have (such as the bazaar Badges I mentioned earlier). I think once you have those things added, it would definitely be ready to be put on an actual page, even if all of the Special Attacks aren't listed.

If you have any questions as to what I may have meant, feel free to ask away!! Keep up the great work, and happy editing!! :) --Dany36 (talk) 21:44, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh yeah. I was planning to get to that, but I haven't quite yet - my current project was going about listing the things. I'll get right to that and turn it into the actual page! Thanks! Mr. Poe (talk) 23:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Sword pages (Hyrule Warriors and otherwise)

While I was making a page for the Knight's Sword in Hyrule Warriors, I realized that not all swords had articles, and some in the Swords template just link to their "swords by game" page. I was wondering what the policies for the Sword pages were. How do we determine which swords get their own articles? -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Generic unnamed Swords most of the time just link to a "Swords in" page, such as the Sword from LA. The Swords template seems to be a little outdated, so will have to fix that. - Chuck * ^(Talk) 00:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Majora's Mask 3D Help

I was wanting to know if you guys'd like help with finding more changes in Majora's Mask 3D. I already pre-ordered it, so I could definitely try to find some new changes once it's released if you want. Thanks. Devilion (Talk) 14:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey there. That sounds great!

Everyone's welcome to add information if they're willing to help, so feel free to do so when it comes out. :D - Tony^{T S C} 22:10, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Glad to hear. I'll do my best.. Devilion (Talk) 18:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Fan-made Content

I wanted to know if there's a page for fan-made content like fan art, remixes, and other stuff like that. If not, then do you know a good website for uploading fan-made LoZ content? I've made a few remixes and stuff in my time and I thought it'd be cool to upload it for other LoZ fans to see. Devilion (Talk) 19:08, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

The Wiki focus in official content only, but once the ZU forums are back, you are more than welcome to post any of your fan-made material there. - Chuck * ^(Talk) 21:02, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Do you know when ZU will be up again? --Marcus152 (talk) 15:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

The forums are back again, I updated the link up there so you can check them out too. - Chuck * ^(Talk) 19:17, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

A Link Between Worlds Swords Page

I checked in the wanted pages section and there was a page called Swords of A Link Between Worlds. When I checked on the A Link Between Worlds article in the Items section, I already found the possible swords. Should I create that page or should I just ignore it?Frozenfire71 (talk) 00:46, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

The items sections are only for listing items. Athough we also have pages for Swords with more detailed info, such as Swords of Ocarina of Time. So feel free to create the page if you feel so :) You can check the OoT Swords page to get an idea on how to make it. - Chuck * ^(Talk) 02:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks!Frozenfire71 (talk) 01:03, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Template:Items

Template:Items needs major updates. There's a redlink to Template:SS Items on it in Skyward Sword's tab, and no tab at all for A Link Between Worlds. Digifiend (talk) 02:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know. We will try to update it as soon as possible. - Chuck * ^(Talk) 02:15, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, for images for SS item screens, I have everything set up to capture the item screens. I am even prepped to make perfect(?) overlays (semi-transparency) using [1] through textures, camera angles and "disable lighting"+"disable fog". However I may be constrained in terms of getting copies with the different versions of items etc. I also ask, what screen should be used? Using only the B-button select screen may be limited, though the entire gear screen(s) may have too many changes (esp. since SS has fancy animated shiny effects etc. for their screens) though it may become easier if I can confirm the item sections in the gear screen are opaque and that we can copy-paste the original sprites/textures. Also, in coming weeks I will be somewhat busy. - KokoroSenshi 14:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Backrounds!!

Let's face it, your backrounds are dull. Can you make a more Zeldaish one? It might get more people! -ToonLink13 23:25, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Groosenator's edits on the 8th of September

Some theories were removed by the bot on that date. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, so I thought it would be better if I brought it up here. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 05:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

They were entirely intentional, as we (Zelda Wiki and Zelda Universe staff) decided that all theories are to be moved to Zelda Universe's forums and/or stripped of fan conjecture (to ensure that we remain as close to the facts as possible). Due to ZU's lengthy forum downtime, this has been a shelved project until just recently. - Tony^{T S C} 06:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

News item

I don't know if we have a news section for the zelda franchise (the main page announcements seem to be wiki only), but the game jam mentioned here could definitely use some visibility. (Here's hoping Nintendo gets the message!)KrytenKoro (talk) 22:01, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

(FYI, I fixed your link.)

Covering topics like this isn't really our focus, since we're not a general community site (our purpose being to document rather than report). I've passed the word on to some news-y people I know in the hopes that they'll feature it, but it might be better for you to just go straight to sites that do cover news topics, like Zelda Universe (or any other "Zelda ____" site). It'll be interesting to see what comes of it, but I don't think it's our place to spread the news of it (so much as to, say, find some way to document it once it's concluded).

- Tony^{T S C} 23:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Walkthoughs

Hey, I was just thinking maybe we could have walkthroughs for the games? I could help, maybe I could do windwaker if i'm allowed? Would we make a separate article for the walkthroughs or would we just make a section in the article about the game? Admins or Leaders, please respond! --Marcus152 (talk) 17:36, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Marcus,

Thank you for showing initiative and a willingness to help us out. The thing is, since we're an encyclopedia, our purpose here at the wiki is to document facts about the Zelda games. Walkthroughs aren't in the scope of our project. Also, we're already close partners with Zelda Universe, which is making their own guides.

There's tons of other stuff you can do to help us out, if you're interested (see here for more info). We're happy to have new hands on deck. If you're dead set on guide writing I think Zelda Universe might still be looking for guide writers, so you could always try applying with them. :) — Hylian King ^[*] 17:55, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

EDIT: You can also join Strategy Wiki and help with their Zelda guides. — Hylian King ^[*] 01:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay! I think first i'm gonna help make zelda wiki the best for MM3D! --Marcus 18:07, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Moving theories out of articles into a new namespace or into the Community namespace

After looking at a bunch of articles over the past few days, I had an idea. I feel this wiki would greatly benefit from a Theories namespace, or move all theories from their respective articles to the Community namespace. Since wikis are all about sticking to the facts, this could provide the separation between theory and fact in articles. It could also prevent the wiki from seeming both ambiguous and concrete within the same article.

Some may argue, if this was done, a user down the line could make a counterargument to put the theories back into their respective articles. This idea is tough to reconcile in the light of articles like Dark Tribe, Hero of Men and Tetraforce, which are nearly all theory, theory-heavy Sacred Realm, and sub-pages on theories, like Sheikah/Theories, that already subscribe to this idea. By placing theories elsewhere, we can keep better track of all theories, and make it a "one-stop-shop" for readers looking only for theory info. Plus, many forums don't have a "one-stop-shop" for theories - they're all littered amongst the threads. It'd be a large job, I know, but if the staff was ambitious, they could even appoint someone to "patrol" the theory namespace. We've shown so far that the Community namespace is great at keeping non-factual and often non-Zelda information out of the main wiki. It would make article pages shorter and easier to load, and less messy (removes the bulky "Theory Warning" marquee, also).

A simple hyperlink could take the reader from the fact page to the theory page, and back. In this day and age, all browsers have the ability to open multiple tabs. While it might be a minor inconvenience to transfer back and forth between fact and theory parts of the same topic, I think it would overall increase the legitimacy, cleanliness, and ease of locating facts on this wiki. A bunch of ideas - what do you guys think? User:Cipriano/sig 17:02, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Sounds great to me.KrytenKoro (talk) 18:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Some time ago it was decided among the current staff and the ZU staff that all theories would be moved onto their theory board as a master thread and all theories would be removed and relocated there. We're currently in the process of this, but it's a very slow process. Since ZW and ZU are closely partnered, it simply makes sense to leave theories to the general community side (ZU's forums) and retain the factual information in a clean and presentable manner here.

We've been concerned about the theories, ourselves, but they'll either be integrated into the article of question as purely logical conjecture or transferred over to the forums entirely. From then on, it'll be the responsibility of staff to help keep theories off of articles and direct theorists to their appropriate place. Certain theories that were once huge and critical to the fandom may be preserved for archival purposes, but they won't have any place in the mainspace, so to speak. - Tony^{T S C} 18:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Kasuto, moving the theories out of the mainspace is a great idea in general. It might be worth moving ZW's "WikiExclusives" out to the forums as well, since those are theory, too. This wiki's in good hands :) User:Cipriano/sig 18:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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 :::Some time ago it was decided among the current staff and the ZU staff that all theories would be moved onto their theory board as a master thread and all theories would be removed and relocated there. We're currently in the process of this, but it's a very slow process. Since ZW and ZU are closely partnered, it simply makes sense to leave theories to the general community side (ZU's forums) and retain the factual information in a clean and presentable manner here.
 :::We've been concerned about the theories, ourselves, but they'll either be integrated into the article of question as purely logical conjecture or transferred over to the forums entirely. From then on, it'll be the responsibility of staff to help keep theories off of articles and direct theorists to their appropriate place. Certain theories that were once huge and critical to the fandom may be preserved for archival purposes, but they won't have any place in the mainspace, so to speak. {{:User:Pakkun/sig}} 18:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
+::::Kasuto, moving the theories out of the mainspace is a great idea in general. It might be worth moving ZW's "WikiExclusives" out to the forums as well, since those are theory, too. This wiki's in good hands :) {{:User:Cipriano/sig}} 18:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)