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Template:Boss Manhandla is a recurring boss in Template:LZS. Although not mentioned in the international release, the Japanese manual describes it as a "four-limbed, jumbo-sized" Piranha Plant,^[1] making it the first reference to the Mario series to appear in The Legend of Zelda.

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Characteristics

The defining characteristic of the Manhandla is its four symmetrical mouths, which are its weak points. As with all incarnations of Manhandlas, as each mouth is dispelled, the entire form picks up speed, reaching its maximum velocity upon destruction of the third mouth; after defeating all four of them, the Manhandla will be defeated.

Appearances

The Legend of Zelda

Manhandla is the third boss of The Legend of Zelda. It is a large, spinning, man-eating flower with the ability to spit fireballs.^[2] The flower will try to devour Link with its four "hands" as Link tries to dispose of it. The "hands" weigh the boss down, causing it to move slowly and allowing Link to either slash at them with his sword or explode them with Bombs. As each hand is destroyed, the beast gains more speed. A cleverly placed bomb at the center of the flower will rid the boss of all four hands in a single blow. Killing Manhandla will earn Link the third piece of the Triforce of Wisdom.

Manhandla appears again as a mini-boss in Level-4 and Level-8.

Oracle of Seasons

In Oracle of Seasons, Manhandla is the boss of the Ancient Ruins, the sixth dungeon.^[3] Manhandla starts out by spitting four fireballs at Link. The flowers can only be damaged by the Magical Boomerang when they are open. When Manhandla loses all four flowers, it runs around the room very fast. Link has to continually hit Manhandla with the Magical Boomerang to expose its core. At that point, Link has a small amount of time to use his Sword to destroy Manhandla's core and defeat it. Link receives a Heart Container and the Blowing Wind, the sixth Essence of Nature, for destroying Manhandla.

Note that the body is now a large Buzz Blob, very similar to the Giant Buzz Blob mini-boss from the Color Dungeon in Link's Awakening and to the Big Green ChuChu boss of the Deepwood Shrine in The Minish Cap. Also note that the four plant heads now look and act very similar to the Mario series's Piranha Plant, reflecting its origins as a relative.

Four Swords

File:ManhandlaFS.png

In Four Swords, Manhandla is a large multi-headed plant that serves as the boss of the Sea of Trees. At the start of the battle, the Big Manhandla will have two to four heads that will change colors depending on the number Links. As the blossomed heads circle around the battlefield, the corresponding Links must attack the flowers that matches their tunic while dodging the small green stones that Manhandla begins to shoot.^[4] Once all of the flowers have been defeated, two Pull Levers will appear on the sides of Manhandla. The Links must pull these simultaneously to reveal the blossom, at which point two different-colored flowers will appear.^[5] The same-colored Links must then strike the corresponding flower at the same time to damage it. If Manhandla is not defeated the first time the blossom is revealed, it will become more aggressive and will start to shoot seeds at the Links, trying to impede them from pulling the levers.

Once Manhandla has been defeated, it will yield Rupees and open the portal to the Great Fairy of Forest, where each of the Links receives one of the Great Keys as a reward.

Four Swords Adventures

File:ManhandlaFSA.png

In Four Swords Adventures, Manhandla appears in The Coast, Frozen Hyrule and Realm of the Heavens, as either a Boss or Mini-Boss. The strategy is the same as in The Legend of Zelda, but the claws are different colors, and the Link of the corresponding color must strike the claw to destroy it. It takes one hit to weaken each claw, but if one of the Links get struck by it or hits the wrong head, Manhandla will spit fire from all four heads and they will grow to full size again. The Links must to repeat the process in that case. Once all the claws have become smaller it will be destroyed.

Other Appearances

Non-Canon Information

BS The Legend of Zelda

Manhandla also makes an appearance in BS The Legend of Zelda. The first time it shows up is in the third dungeon, as the boss, and it also returns in the seventh dungeon as a mini-boss. The battles play out in a similar manner to that in The Legend of Zelda, minus the fact that Manhandla is much faster, and requires fewer blows to defeat.

Hyrule Warriors

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File:HW Manhandla.png

In Hyrule Warriors, Manhandla appears as a giant boss that is encountered in several Legend Mode and Adventure Mode stages. In Legend Mode, it appears as a boss in the Scenarios "The Sorceress of the Valley", "Ganondorf's Return", and "Darkness Falls".

As with previous incarnations, Manhandla appears as a bulb with four heads, however, its heads and body are covered in a sturdy metallic hide that deflects attacks. Manhandla has several different attacks, including spitting seeds that target the Allied base, rapidly spitting seeds directly at their enemies, lunging with its huge jaws, uprooting itself and rampaging around the battlefield with its heads swinging around, or spewing a pool of poison similar to Deku Babas. These attacks will also harm nearby enemy troops. Occasionally however, its heads will briefly lose their metallic hide and become organic, leaving its heads vulnerable. In this window of time, its heads can be stunned with the Boomerang. When all four heads are stunned, the creature falls and exposes a large crystal in its bulb, revealing its Weak Point Gauge. Sometimes Manhandla will still expose its Weak Point Gauge even without all of its heads stunned, but this is very uncommon occurrence.

Manhandla will usually drop the Toxic Dust Material when defeated, and rarely the Manhandla's Sapling Material.

Manhandla Stalks

File:HW Manhandla Stalk Portrait.png

Manhandla Stalks appear as individual Manhandla stems that emerge in various locations in stages, more commonly in Adventure Mode where they appear in groups of three. From the location that they sprout, they attack the opposing Bases in an attempt to force their opponents to lose, or if a Warrior is nearby, the stalk will fire at them. Large numbers of Manhandla Stalks can deal a lot of damage to the Allied Base, so defeating them is a priority. Unlike Manhandla itself, the Manhandla Stalks can be destroyed by other weapons other than the Boomerang. They do not drop Materials.

In "The Sorceress of the Valley", the Manhandla will retreat when its health is down to half, and reemerge as five stalks that must be defeated. Defeating these stalks will make Manhandla reappear in its entirety.

Etymology

Names in Other Regions
Language		Name	Meaning
	Japanese	テスチタート (Tesuchitāto) Template:ExpGame デグチタート (Degu Chitāto) Template:ExpGame 猛毒邪触樹テスチタート (Mōdoku Jashokuju Tesuchitāto) Template:ExpGame	Testitart Template:ExpGame Big Titart Template:ExpGame Venomous Evil-Tentacled Tree: Testitart Template:ExpGame
	German	Mandhala Manhandla Template:ExpGame
	Italian	Manhandla Manhandla pianta velenosa Template:ExpGame
	Korean	맹독사촉수 데스치타트 (Maengdok Sachoksu Deseuchitateu) Template:ExpGame	Venomous Evil-Tentacled Tree: Death Chitart Template:ExpGame
	Spanish^LA	Manhandla Template:ExpGame

Gallery

TLoZ Manhandla Million Publications Artwork.png

Manhandla artwork from The Legend of Zelda
Manhandla artwork from The Legend of Zelda
Manhandla's exposed weak point in Oracle of Seasons
The Big Manhandla defeated in Four Swords
Closed up Manhandla flower bud from Hyrule Warriors
Manhandla Stalk from Hyrule Warriors
HW Manhandla Portrait.png

Manhandla portrait from Hyrule Warriors
HW Dark Manhandla Portrait.png

Dark Manhandla portrait from Hyrule Warriors
HWL VS Manhandla Icon.png

VS Manhandla icon from Hyrule Warriors
HWL VS Dark Manhandla Icon.png

VS Dark Manhandla icon from Hyrule Warriors
Manhandla Adventure Mode Sprite from Hyrule Warriors

References

↑ "４方向に手を持つ大型のパックンフラワー。手が減るごとに速い動きになる。ややつよい攻撃力を持つ。" (LOZ manual, pg. 36)
↑ "A large man-eating flower with hands sticking out in all four directions. It moves faster as it loses its hands. It's pretty mean. So, watch out!" (LoZ manual, pg. 37)
↑ Template:Cite book
↑ "Attack the flower that matches your tunic!" — N/A (Four Swords)
↑ "Pull them both to reveal the blossom!" — N/A (Four Swords)

Bosses in The Legend of Zelda series

The Legend of Zelda

Aquamentus · Dodongo · Manhandla · Gleeok · Digdogger · Gohma · Patra · Ganon

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+{{Boss
-== Hello ==
+|image = [[File:FS1.png|200px]]
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+|caption = Manhandla artwork from ''Four Swords''
+|title = Poisonous Tree {{ExpGame|HW}}
+|game = {{TLoZ}}<br>{{OoS}}<br>{{FS}}<br>{{FSA}}
+|other = {{BSTLoZ}}<br>{{HW}}
+|dungeon = [[Level-3 (The Legend of Zelda)|Level-3]], [[Level-4 (The Legend of Zelda)|Level-4]], [[Level-8 (The Legend of Zelda)|Level-8]]<br>[[Ancient Ruins]]<br>[[Sea of Trees]]<br>[[The Coast]], [[Frozen Hyrule]], [[Realm of the Heavens]]
+|weakness = [[Bomb]]s<br>[[Sword]]
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+'''Manhandla''' is a recurring [[boss]] in {{LZS|Series}}. Although not mentioned in the international release, the Japanese manual describes it as a "four-limbed, jumbo-sized" [[Piranha Plant]],<ref>{{cite manual |quote={{exp|A four-limbed, jumbo-sized Piranha Plant. Speeds up with each limb lost. Possesses somewhat powerful offensive strength.|４方向に手を持つ大型のパックンフラワー。手が減るごとに速い動きになる。ややつよい攻撃力を持つ。}} |game=LOZ |page=36}}</ref> making it the first reference to the {{smw|Mario (series)|''Mario'' series}} to appear in ''The Legend of Zelda''.
+{{TLoZManual|Manhandla|A large man-eating flower with hands sticking out in all four directions. It moves faster as it loses its hands. It's pretty mean. So, watch out!}}
-== Imprisoning War ==
+==Characteristics==
-Your work on the [[Imprisoning War]] page is very commendable. Great job on all you've done with it. {{:User:Melchizedek/sig}} 02:56, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
+The defining characteristic of the Manhandla is its four symmetrical mouths, which are its weak points. As with all incarnations of Manhandlas, as each mouth is dispelled, the entire form picks up speed, reaching its maximum velocity upon destruction of the third mouth; after defeating all four of them, the Manhandla will be defeated.
-==Episode Titles==
+==Appearances==
+===''The Legend of Zelda''===
-You can pipe link all of them and it will save time when creating each episode's article. The pipe links will show up red and place it in the Wanted Pages, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Great work on the page. I'll point it out to someone to get a template made for the information such as the writer and voice actors, etc. {{:User:Axiomist/sig}} 06:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
+[[File:TLoZ Manhandla Sprite.png|left|100px]]
+Manhandla is the third boss of {{TLoZ}}. It is a large, spinning, man-eating flower with the ability to spit fireballs.<ref>{{Cite manual|quote=A large man-eating flower with hands sticking out in all four directions. It moves faster as it loses its hands. It's pretty mean. So, watch out!|game=LoZ|page=37}}</ref> The flower will try to devour [[Link]] with its four "hands" as Link tries to dispose of it. The "hands" weigh the boss down, causing it to move slowly and allowing Link to either slash at them with his sword or explode them with [[Bomb]]s. As each hand is destroyed, the beast gains more speed. A cleverly placed bomb at the center of the flower will rid the boss of all four hands in a single blow. Killing Manhandla will earn Link the third piece of the [[Triforce#Triforce of Wisdom|Triforce of Wisdom]].
+Manhandla appears again as a mini-boss in [[Level-4 (The Legend of Zelda)|Level-4]] and [[Level-8 (The Legend of Zelda)|Level-8]].
-I've got a short set of reviews of the Zelda cartoon [http://everything2.com/node/1903682 up at everything2.com] if you want to reference that for any details.  Might be some handy information in there.<br>--[[User:Rootbeer277|Rootbeer277]] 14:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
+===''Oracle of Seasons''===
-== Re:About the edit war ==
+[[File:Manhandla OOS.png|75px|left]]
+[[File:Manhandla OOS 2.png|right]]
+In {{OoS}}, Manhandla is the boss of the [[Ancient Ruins]], the sixth dungeon.<ref>{{Cite book|quote=After you destroy all four flowers of the boss, Manhandla, with the Boomerang, the stem will move around the room in a figure-eight pattern.|book=The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages Player's Guide|publisher=Nintendo of America|page=45}}</ref> Manhandla starts out by spitting four fireballs at Link. The flowers can only be damaged by the [[Boomerang#Magical Boomerang|Magical Boomerang]] when they are open. When Manhandla loses all four flowers, it runs around the room very fast. Link has to continually hit Manhandla with the Magical Boomerang to expose its core. At that point, Link has a small amount of time to use his [[Sword]] to destroy Manhandla's core and defeat it. Link receives a [[Heart Container]] and the [[Essences of Nature#Blowing Wind|Blowing Wind]], the sixth Essence of Nature, for destroying Manhandla.
+Note that the body is now a large [[Buzz Blob]], very similar to the [[Giant Buzz Blob]] mini-boss from the [[Color Dungeon]] in {{LA}} and to the [[Big Chuchu|Big Green ChuChu]] boss of the [[Deepwood Shrine]] in {{TMC}}. Also note that the four plant heads now look and act very similar to the Mario series's [[Piranha Plant]], reflecting its origins as a relative.
-That is fine man, I accept the apology and also apologize for any confusion or mistrust that has been caused. I agree with your idea to the detail, and that was what I was trying to suggest last night. I am very glad you have come back to the table and am very glad we have reached agreement. Perhaps we can work together on it to make it to what you described. I'd be very happy to help if I can. As far as citing sources, I am unsure about the coding required for it, since I was never very good with programming. Perhaps you can help me there. And I in turn can help you as well to craft the sections and bring the article up to speed as you said. For the record, I also agree this encyclopedia is far more credible than the other one, but in a respectful way. I can see that they may have different standards than we do, but they too love the series just as much as we do. I may not agree with all that they do, as I do believe we have a good policy and a good operation here, but as I said, I just live and let live. But I do agree with you that we have a more credible operation here and that we have good policies and a wonderful alliance with other sites, something that can't be said for the other wiki it seems. But they are entitled to their own standards if they like, even if we may not agree with their policies aesthetically. I appreciate your understanding and willingness to work together though, and I look forward to helping in the effort to improve not just the Great Cataclysm but others alongside you as well. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 16:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
-== Edits ==
+===''Four Swords''===
+[[File:ManhandlaFS.png|right]]
+In {{FS}}, Manhandla is a large multi-headed plant that serves as the boss of the [[Sea of Trees]]. At the start of the battle, the Big Manhandla will have two to four heads that will change colors depending on the number [[Links]]. As the blossomed heads circle around the battlefield, the corresponding Links must attack the flowers that matches their tunic while dodging the small green stones that Manhandla begins to shoot.<ref>{{Cite|Attack the flower that matches your tunic!|N/A|FS}}</ref> Once all of the flowers have been defeated, two [[Pull Lever]]s will appear on the sides of Manhandla. The Links must pull these simultaneously to reveal the blossom, at which point two different-colored flowers will appear.<ref>{{cite|Pull them both to reveal the blossom!|N/A|FS}}</ref> The same-colored Links must then strike the corresponding flower at the same time to damage it. If Manhandla is not defeated the first time the blossom is revealed, it will become more aggressive and will start to shoot seeds at the Links, trying to impede them from pulling the levers.
+Once Manhandla has been defeated, it will yield [[Rupee]]s and open the portal to the [[Great Fairy of Forest]], where each of the Links receives one of the [[Great Key]]s as a reward.
-I've noticed that you seem to make multiple edits to the same pages. I wanted to tell you that instead of submitting your work every time you add information/correct something, you can simply press the '''show preview''' button. This will allow you to preview your work before submitting it. Which results in less edits and also keeps the page histories clean.{{:User:Mandi/sig}} 18:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
-:The edits of the same page, a few minutes apart, and for the most part small (<1000) get annoying. If you can use the "Show Preview" button or even go to your preferences and click the box to show the preview automatically. {{:User:Axiomist/sig}} 03:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
+===''Four Swords Adventures''===
-== Hyrule ==
+[[File:ManhandlaFSA.png|left|98px|]]
+In {{FSA}}, Manhandla appears in [[The Coast]], [[Frozen Hyrule]] and [[Realm of the Heavens]], as either a Boss or Mini-Boss. The strategy is the same as in ''The Legend of Zelda'', but the claws are different colors, and the Link of the corresponding color must strike the claw to destroy it. It takes one hit to weaken each claw, but if one of the Links get struck by it or hits the wrong head, Manhandla will spit fire from all four heads and they will grow to full size again. The Links must to repeat the process in that case. Once all the claws have become smaller it will be destroyed.
+{{clear}}
+==Other Appearances==
-Hey Ganondorfdude11, I saw you were helping with the work on the [[Hyrule]] article, and I thought I would ask perhaps if you would like to continue to help out with the restructuring of the article perhaps? I have been trying to restructure it to better meet standards for the wiki as well as look more organized, and you are one of the few that has shown interest in helping to put the meat on the bones of the article. An article like this is nearly overwhelming for one person to do alone, so I thought I would ask if you would be interested in continuing work on it and to collaborate with me and others working on it to get the article done in as quick and efficient a manner as possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated with it. And I hope you don't take offense at me replacing what you wrote on the sections about the appearances, I just wanted to make them more detailed about the plot of the games and the implications each has for Hyrule in those games, as was suggested to me by a couple of the admins in their vision for the article. If you could help add even more to what you wrote in some of those or in any of the other sections, it would be greatly appreciated. I'm just glad someone else is showing interest in helping. ;) [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 18:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
+{{noncanon|start}}
-:Sure. I added the "wars' section underneath the history section and am trying to flesh out the "appearances by game" section. I style of writing seems a bit more lacoic than yours, I tend to just state the important stuff and leave it at that. Maybe you could say something about the plot of each game in the "Appearances by game" section?[[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 18:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
+===''BS The Legend of Zelda''===
-::That's exactly what I'm trying to do, add the plots of the games and the parts that affect or involve Hyrule at large in them in the Appearances by Game section that you created. So yes, that's precisely what I had in mind as well. One area you could probably be of great help on is the Races section too, since those are more just facts about the races and how they've changed throughout Hyrule's history. We can also expand upon the section regarding wars and invasions as you suggested as well, so that is a good idea. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 18:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
+[[File:BSManhandla.gif|right|75px]]
-::It looks like somebody went and wiped the entire "appearances by game section" because it was "unnecessary plot summary."[[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 22:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
+Manhandla also makes an appearance in {{BSTLoZ}}. The first time it shows up is in the third dungeon, as the boss, and it also returns in the seventh dungeon as a mini-boss. The battles play out in a similar manner to that in ''The Legend of Zelda'', minus the fact that Manhandla is much faster, and requires fewer blows to defeat.
-:::That's because it was. The majority of it was useless game synopsis. If you want to add those sections back, please refrain from making it a 40k kb page with 12 different game summaries. Maybe describe how Hyrule has changed with each game, but that should be it - they do not need to be large, cumbersome sections with copious amounts of information. -- [[User:Xizor|Xizor]] 22:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
-::::Actually Xizor, I've had other admins (Dany and Axiomist to name a few) that actually want more detail in the history or appearance sections of the article. I was asked to expand upon the stories and how they affect Hyrule in the appearances section, so please let us continue work on things uninterrupted and we can cut things everyone thinks is too much when we're done. This has been a lot of work for those of us that have been trying to work on the article, and seeing that none of the admins that have been here for over a year did anything with this article in all this time, that doesn't leave much room for criticism toward those of us that are trying to improve it "as we see fit", like the label says. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 00:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
-That sounds acceptable to me, I'm going to just mark things as patrolled and not touch anything until the two of you independently tell me or other staff members that you are done. At this point some trimming will likely take place. The many readers have been finding redundancies and I'll get them to hold off on the whole thing bc the wiki loses when tempers flare up. {{:User:Axiomist/sig}} 01:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
-:As I told Christopher, there were many of us who thought the article was bulky and that the entire section should be removed - it was not an independent decision on my part. As I also told Christopher, I'll hold off on reducing it again, but if the article only continues to get larger and larger, then that's not the point. Do not summarize each game - mention why it affects Hyrule, but after that, we don't need to know the story of each game. That's what the pages about each game are for. --[[User:Xizor|Xizor]] 10:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
-::And as I told you, I understand what you're saying and we will certainly take that into account and we will edit out what we don't need when we are done. It's better to start out with too much than not enough. You just took it upon yourself to wipe out all that we'd done, and that's not right either. Just because you're an admin doesn't give you the unilateral right to just wipe out an entire section of an article simply because you think it's too long. You could easily have just let one of us know and we could have told you we weren't yet done with it, it's a work in progress. It's amazing that all of a sudden, you're saying something about an article that's been sitting dormant for over a year, and I have seen no attempt on your part to do anything about it up to this point. To criticize those of us that are actually trying to get the job done smacks of hypocrisy. Ganondorfdude11 and I have been trying to deal with a mammoth of an article, with no thanks to you or some of the others that tried to verbally attack me a week ago but backed off when they were told they could do it themselves. Have they done anything as far as helping the article move along?? No. Have you Xizor, beyond wiping out the work we'd done so far and complaining like those others? No, of course not. I understand that you want it to be good quality, and it will be when we are done I can assure you, but you can't rush us on this, this is a mammoth article that's not going to be done just 1, 2, 3. Any help is greatly appreciated, it's a lot for just two people to deal with in a topic this large. But complaints and actions like those you took prematurely just get in the way. All you have to do is talk to us, we're not going to bite. If you'd like to help in some of the writing of the article, it would be greatly appreciated, but what we don't need are road blocks and whining. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 13:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
+===''Hyrule Warriors''===
-== Hyrulean/Hyrulean ==
+{{sectstub|HW}}
+[[File:HW Manhandla.png|right|250px]]
+In {{HW}}, Manhandla appears as a giant boss that is encountered in several [[Legend Mode]] and [[Adventure Mode]] stages. In Legend Mode, it appears as a boss in the Scenarios "[[The Sorceress of the Valley]]", "[[Ganondorf's Return]]", and "[[Darkness Falls]]".
+As with previous incarnations, Manhandla appears as a bulb with four heads, however, its heads and body are covered in a sturdy metallic hide that deflects attacks. Manhandla has several different attacks, including spitting seeds that target the [[Keep|Allied base]], rapidly spitting seeds directly at their enemies, lunging with its huge jaws, uprooting itself and rampaging around the battlefield with its heads swinging around, or spewing a pool of poison similar to [[Deku Baba]]s. These attacks will also harm nearby enemy troops. Occasionally however, its heads will briefly lose their metallic hide and become organic, leaving its heads vulnerable. In this window of time, its heads can be stunned with the [[Boomerang]]. When all four heads are stunned, the creature falls and exposes a large crystal in its bulb, revealing its Weak Point Gauge. Sometimes Manhandla will still expose its Weak Point Gauge even without all of its heads stunned, but this is very uncommon occurrence.
-Hey Ganondorfdude11, sorry to make this seem like an edit war, but the community's general consensus has been that the proper spelling is "Hyrulean" as was stated in the FSA game. In TP, the term was considered misspelled in translation from Japanese. Please understand we are trying to remain consistent with what the community already has come to accept. This is not personal, just about consistency. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 18:09, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
-: Okay, this is a deal to minor to get into an argument about. I'll accept that both spellings are correct. but if the community's decided on one, then we should use it.[[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 18:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
-:: I agree, both are typically correct and mean the same thing to me personally, but for the purposes of the general community and for consistency, I think we ought to stick with what has already become the accepted standard. It cuts down on confusion that way. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 18:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
-:::Off topic, but I just wanted to say I am very pleased with the picture you chose for the main picture of the Hyrule article, very nice choice indeed! :) [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 21:02, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
+Manhandla will usually drop the Toxic Dust [[Material]] when defeated, and rarely the Manhandla's Sapling Material.
-== Light Force widget ==
+====Manhandla Stalks====
-Hey Ganondorfdude11, I have a question for you. Do you know perhaps where we could get the small game widget of the Light Force that is seen on the game menu for a completed file for ''The Minish Cap''?? It may not be called "widget", but it's the in-game form of a character or item, I forget what the proper term for it is, but do you know what I'm talking about?? It's the little golden triangle that appears beside the Four Sword on the file menu whenever you complete a file for the game. If you do, do you think you could find a copy of that which we can put beside the "Description" section of the article?? I'd be grateful, b/c I'm not sure where to get those things. I can search for images, but I'm not sure what those in-game things are. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 19:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
+[[File:HW Manhandla Stalk Portrait.png|right|130px]]
-::I'm not sure how to get one of those. Maybe you can search for a screenshot of a completed file and crop it?[[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]]
+'''Manhandla Stalks''' appear as individual Manhandla stems that emerge in various locations in [[Scenarios in Hyrule Warriors|stage]]s, more commonly in Adventure Mode where they appear in groups of three. From the location that they sprout, they attack the opposing Bases in an attempt to force their opponents to lose, or if a Warrior is nearby, the stalk will fire at them. Large numbers of Manhandla Stalks can deal a lot of damage to the Allied Base, so defeating them is a priority. Unlike Manhandla itself, the Manhandla Stalks can be destroyed by other weapons other than the [[Boomerang]]. They do not drop Materials.
-:::That's true, I'll try that if I can find an image of the file menu, I can crop it. I'll try to find a picture of it if I can.
+In "The Sorceress of the Valley", the Manhandla will retreat when its health is down to half, and reemerge as five stalks that must be defeated. Defeating these stalks will make Manhandla reappear in its entirety.
-:::P.S. I'll be back to help you on Hyrule soon too, I just saw this article earlier this morning and thought I could do a rewrite for it fairly quickly since it appears in only one game. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 19:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
+{{noncanon|end}}
-== Next Hyrule ==
+==Etymology==
+{{Names
+|align= left
+|en=
+|enM=
+|ja= {{Romanize|テスチタート|Tesuchitāto}} {{ExpGame|TLoZ|OoS}}<br>{{Romanize|デグチタート|Degu Chitāto}} {{ExpGame|FS|FSA}}<br>{{Romanize|猛毒邪触樹テスチタート|Mōdoku Jashokuju Tesuchitāto}} {{ExpGame|HW}}
+|jaM= Testitart {{ExpGame|TLoZ|OoS}}<br>Big Titart {{ExpGame|FS|FSA}}<br>Venomous Evil-Tentacled Tree: Testitart {{ExpGame|HW}}
+|es=
+|esM=
+|esS=
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-Ganondorfdude11, I know we may be at odds about some things, but surely we can work out a compromise here. I have rewwritten the section to reflect that while it's not for sure to be called Hyrule, there is a possibility that it "may" be called Hyrule b/c Zelda makes clear that's what she intends to do. Never once does the King state that they should not name the new land Hyrule, he merely says that the new land will not be the Hyrule he is bound to. He was trying to explain why he could not go with them, nothing more. Please be reasonable here, b/c you're asserting something that is taken out of context. I'm willing to concede that it's not certain that it will be called Hyrule, but it's not unreasonable to state the possibility that it "may" be called Hyrule either. I would hope you would be willing to compromise here, b/c we're each giving a little to reach common ground. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 22:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
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-:The proper compromise would be to not assume that the new land is Hyrule. The current version of the page just says that they will go to find a new land, which is stated in the ending. Your interpretation disregards context. The king was the one who made the wish, and Zelda was misinterpreting him. He does not say that the land may be called Hyrule, he says that it will not be Hyrule. He refuses Zelda's suggestion to make another Hyrule outright. Axiomist is of the same opinion. To assume that the new land is Hyrule is presumptive and does not fit with the intention of TWW's ending. The very idea of a new Hyrule is rejected by the king, so why would Tetra disregard the king's wishes?[[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 23:08, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
+File:TLoZ Manhandla Million Publications Artwork.png|Manhandla artwork from ''The Legend of Zelda''
-::I'll just point out that Zelda no more suggested "Hyrule as a name than the King denied that as a name. She said they'd find the New Hyrule, not that the new land they find will be called Hyrule.{{:User:Matt/sig|~}} 23:15, August 26, 2009 (UTC)
+File:TLoZ Manhandla Artwork.png|Manhandla artwork from ''The Legend of Zelda''
-::Here's the conversation in context:
+File:Manhandla OOS 3.png|Manhandla's exposed weak point in ''Oracle of Seasons''
-::*'''Zelda''':W-Wait! You could... You could come with us! Yes, of course... We have a ship! We can find it. We WILL find it! The land that will be the next Hyrule!
+File:FS Big Manhandla Defeated.png|The Big Manhandla defeated in ''Four Swords''
-::*'''King''':Ah, but child... That land will not be Hyrule. It will be YOUR land!
+File:HW Manhandla Bud Model.png|Closed up Manhandla flower bud from ''Hyrule Warriors''
-The context indicates that the old kingdom is dead, and that the new kingdom will not be Hyrule. The idea of a new Hyrule is rejected outright.[[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 23:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
+File:HW Manhandla Stalk Model.png|Manhandla Stalk from ''Hyrule Warriors''
-::While I disagree with the above statement in that there could very well be a new land named Hyrule, I just wanted to say I am pleased with the way the section reads now. It does not appear to take sides at all, and it mentions that though Zelda stated they would find a new Hyrule, Daphnes told them that it would be their own land and not the original Hyrule his spirit was bound to. So good job on the writing, but always try to keep an open mind buddy. If there's anything we should have learned by this point, it's that anything is possible in this series. ;) [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 14:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
+File:HW Manhandla Portrait.png|Manhandla portrait from ''Hyrule Warriors''
+File:HW Dark Manhandla Portrait.png|Dark Manhandla portrait from ''Hyrule Warriors''
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+File:HWL VS Dark Manhandla Icon.png|VS Dark Manhandla icon from ''Hyrule Warriors''
+File:HW Manhandla Adventure Mode Icon.png|Manhandla Adventure Mode Sprite from ''Hyrule Warriors''
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+{{Ref}}
-== TetraForce Link ==
-That link was there, bc it's the only article we are going to allow for the noncanonical 4th Goddess theory. You can make it take a more neutral stance between having a Goddess of Time and Fourth Triforce, if you feel it's slants that way too much. But one article is sufficient. {{:User:Axiomist/sig}} 05:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
-:Ah. I was under the impression that the Fourth Goddess theory was that the Goddess of Time was merely a separate entity, and not necessarily the goddess of a fourth Triforce. I thought the Fourth Goddess idea was that she was like Zephos and Cyclos, a minor deity who only controlled time and didn't have her own Triforce piece. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 15:42, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
+{{Bosses|LOZ}}
+{{PlantEnemy}}
+{{NintendoEnemy}}
+{{SandEnemy}}
+[[Category:Mario]]
-==Uploading Images==
+[[Category:Bosses in The Legend of Zelda]]
-Hey there. I noticed you uploaded a few images to the Wiki recently. Thanks for your contributions, but I notice you were doing something slightly wrong. You were not selecting any option from the Licensing drop-down. When you upload, please just select 'All Copyrighted images' if it is an image that is in fact copyrighted. All officially released materials, or even slightly modified or altered images fall under this grouping. [[User:Mases|Mases]] 17:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
+[[Category:Bosses in Oracle of Seasons]]
+[[Category:Bosses in Four Swords]]
-==Agahnim==
+[[Category:Bosses in Four Swords Adventures]]
-Hey, thanks for all of those references you added to [[Agahnim]]'s page. It really needed to be done. Great job. :) {{:User:Alter/sig}} 23:42, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
+[[Category:Bosses in BS The Legend of Zelda]]
+[[Category:Bosses in Hyrule Warriors]]
-== Talk Pages ==
+[[Category:Characters in Oracle of Seasons (Himekawa)]]
-One thing to keep in mind after merging is to move the discussion content to the new page. There's really no reason to have a discussion on a redirect page. {{:User:Axiomist/sig}} 03:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
-== Time Out ==
-Ganondorfdude11, I appreciate your help on the Hyrule page very much. However, some of your actions are inconsistent with the construction of the page thus far, and despite my constant requests that you conform to the basic structure we have adopted for it, you continue to disregard what I have been trying to tell you. Please, for the sake of the article at least, quit putting unofficial pictures into the article and please quit removing text that I have put in for a specific reason. You fail to realize that there are several different forests in the games, not just one or two. Let's please start working in unison and not work against each other. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 05:47, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-: The similarities between the forests do not need to be mentioned under every section. The similarities between Sacred Grove and the Lost Woods are already noted under the Sacred Grove section, and the Faron Woods section. Noting them under the Lost Woods section is just padding, and redundant. As for the image, it is not unofficial in the slightest. It comes from the official European guide to A Link to the Past, and is official art produced by Nintendo. It's a far better image than the picture of the Master Sword, which only shows up in the Lost Woods in ALttP and TP. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 05:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-::Ganondorfdude11, European art is not in any official guide, manual or game material. We go by images that are from the guides and are considered official here. And I beg to differ, the picture up now shows the details of the Lost Woods far better than the water-coloring picture you posted. I'm not saying it's a bad image, just not the right kind for our purposes. And once again, please understand that the similarities are for different forests, not the same. You need to realize that, that is why I put them in there, and there's not a bit of "redundancy" about it. I'm comparing the Lost Woods to the Sacred Grove, Ordon Village to the Kokiri Forest, etc. Those are different comparisons. Please let's work out something here so we can work together and quit this pointless scrambling of the work that has been done so far. And as I said in my page, I would hope you would have the decency to at least consult me about removal of things I have written even as a friendly gesture, or to ask me what purpose I placed it there for. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 05:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-:I find it ironic that you chide me for using Nintendo of Europe official art while you used the Prima Games guide as evidence for a theory on the [[Jabun]] page. The similarities do not need to be mentioned more than once. They're mentioned twice as it is. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 06:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-::You're grasping at straws there my friend, the Prima Guide is an AMERICAN OFFICIAL GUIDE as stated atop the cover. You are presenting images that are neither Japanese or American, and have no place in such an article as the one for Hyrule. And yes, I'm afraid the similarities can be mentioned, as they are NOT mentioned twice, which you are mistaking. I am comparing Kokiri Forest to Ordon Village, Sacred Grove to Lost Woods, etc., etc., etc. You have no argument here really, and you are not the one that wrote some of these, I went to the trouble to do it. So sorry that you may feel jaded, but I would hope you could get over some of these childish antics and work with me rather than against me. I only wish to get the best and most eye-catching article together by any means necessary, even if that means I have to consult and negotiate with others helping in the effort. I would hope you would also try to negotiate and actually work with the effort rather than just unilaterally removing whole sections of relevant information and replacing official pictures with ones some aren't even familiar with. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 06:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-:::The Prima guide was not official, but that's neither here nor there. I uploaded a new image of the in-game map of the area. The section comparing the Lost Woods to Sacred Grove does not need to be stated in both the Lost Woods and Sacred Grove sections. It's in the Sacred Grove section because that's where it's more relevant. I also resent you calling my edits "childish antics" while you take it upon yourself to decide what is and isn't official art, as if you were a better arbiter of such things than Nintendo themselves. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 06:33, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-::::I'm afraid you're wrong about the Prima Guide, as it says in big bold letters OFFICIAL STRATEGY GUIDE atop the cover. Sorry man, but I have to go with logic on that point, and logic says your reasoning is flawed. And yes, I will call out childish acts when I see them, and your reversion of my work despite my attempts to explain to you what they were there for are indeed childish. Sorry, but it's the truth. And yes, if you think for one second that image you had of the Lost Woods was a decent image that best represented the woods, then I would have to agree that I am a better arbiter of such things, as I believe in taking things that most identify with and using them as the representatives of the topics, not remote and unknown images most don't even recognize. Nintendo themselves go by Nintendo of Japan and Nintendo of America first and foremost, with America's being given prominence over others. You presented an image that most have probably never even seen before and wasn't even clear. Sorry, but that's the truth. I presented a WELL KNOWN image of the Lost Woods that many have come to identify with and that came from the American manual. I would ask that you please stop instigating partisan fighting and please work with me on this project rather than against me. I'm here to assist in the effort too, and you could at the very least just ask me about what I write if you have reservations about it. I'm not going to bite your head off if you ask me a question. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 06:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-:I should not have to ask you before I add anything. This is not your wiki and it is not your article. The image I had was from the ''official'' European player's guide. From '''Nintendo,''' not Prima. It's just arrogance to assume that "I haven't seen that before, therefore no one has seen it before." I'm not trying to be partisan or start an edit war. I'm trying to keep the monstrous page size down. We've had to split it twice already due to its massive length. I was simply trying to reduce the amount of text that had become unwieldly. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 06:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-::It would help tamper down on these fights of ours if you would at least try asking me about things I've written, and I would not take any offense at it if you actually conversed with me a bit here. We're supposed to be working together here. I've not deleted your work before, I've added to it due to lack of detail but I commended your work nonetheless. You on the other hand just take it upon yourself to deem what should and should not be there, regardless of the writer's opinion or not. If you actually just calmly asked me what purpose those things had and explained why you felt they didn't need to be in there, this kind of stuff wouldn't happen. And yes, not many people in America or Japan, the biggest places for Zelda, have seen "Nintendo of Europe" pictures. I commend your efforts to cut down the article's size, but you can't just cut everything and have one or two sentences a piece, what's the use of having an article then? So a word of advice: you could try conversing with the others doing work on the article if you feel something that someone else has written doesn't need to be in there. And if there's any arrogance here, it's on both our parts, as I can see a lot of it in you, unliaterally dictating what pictures should be used and what text should be kept without regard for the opinion of anyone else, namely the person that took the time to write it. I'm equally guilty of things too, I'm not perfect as nobody is. But I suggest from now on, that we both try to work more closely together and keep on the same page as one another, b/c this infighting is pointless and time-consuming. I'm not your enemy Ganondorfdude, I'm grateful that you are helping in the effort to finish this article, unlike some who blow a lot of wind but do nothing to help constructively, but I would prefer that we work more closely together and put this pointless arguing aside. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 14:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
-== An Idea ==
-Hey Ganondorfdude11, I have a proposition for you that I think would be a great compromise for what we were discussing the other day about pictures, and I credit some of our other colleagues on the wiki for giving me this idea: the unique and rare pictures that not as many are familiar with, like the Nintendo of Europe picture you presented before, could be placed in a gallery on the page at the bottom, similar to the main page for Hyrule. We could use pictures that most are familiar with for the sections within the subpage, but the more unique pictures like the one you found could be placed in a gallery at the bottom. That way everyone is happy, and they may draw more attention from users who have not seen them before, therefore enhancing the article's appeal to new and even long-time fans of the series. Would this be an idea you would be open to? And if so, would you like to be the one to put it together? And if I may ask, where exactly did you find that picture before, and were there any others like it that depicted other locations? [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 19:36, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
-::It was in the Zelda Legends image gallery under official art. However, there really only needs to be one Lost Woods image on the page, and the in-game map is a better image anyway. We don't need to create a gallery just to make the page bigger. The disputed image is already on the [[Lost Woods]] page. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 21:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
-:::Ok, well that's fine. I do agree we need to control the size of the page as much as possible. I have been trying to trim sections down and condense things already. I trimmed the Royal Valley section today and did the same with Hyrule Castle a day or so ago. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 21:31, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
-== Skype ==
-Hi there. I was wondering if you would like to join a Zelda Wiki chat on Skype? [[Zelda Wiki.org:Skype|Details are here.]] If you're interested in joining, please contact one of the staff members via Skype so they can add you.{{:User:Mandi/sig}} 22:05, October 5, 2009 (UTC) 22:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
-:Do you have an account on Skype Ganondorfdude?? If so, what is your s/n on there?? We can chat there and come to an arrangement that satisfies us both. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 04:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
-:I don't have one yet. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 05:10, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
-== Imprisoning War Project ==
-Hey Ganondorfdude, I have been working on a project to create a new article for the Imprisoning War, and I noticed you made an edit on the page and thus have some interest in it. I would like to invite you to share some of your ideas with me about how the page I've been making so far looks, if you think there should be anything included that I haven't already, if there's things that you feel ought to be subtracted, or if you think the format that I've drawn up is good. If you get time, would you mind checking my [[User:Christopher/Sandbox|sandbox]] and just leaving a note perhaps on the discussion page for it of what your take is on the way it's shaping up. I'd like another's opinion and to integrate new ideas you or others may have that I have not yet thought of for it. Thanks! [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 17:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
-:We could do well merging some of your text into the main article. The theories section is pretty much complete as it is, though. No need to expand that one. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 17:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
-::I agree we could merge what I've done already, and I agree we don't need to add to the theory section, but I am of the mind to cut down its size a bit, so that it doesn't look like such a mess. You know what I mean? Just pick out the most important things and list them. Then we can leave readers to draw their own conclusions about what the support or discrepancies mean for themselves. The way I have it now, for example, I've taken a brief summary of the major events of OOT and put that first, then I created two small sections below it that list the supporting evidence and the discrepancies for the game. That way I figured it would look more organized and easier to read. What do you think?? [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 17:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)