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would there surname be dragmire also? any way that’s off topic on what I want to say. if they're his surrogate mother who are his non biological parents be? obviously we haven’t seen them but something like that is strange. they didn’t need to call twinrova his surrogate mother and the only reason why they would is so his other parents can be introduced also. Oni Dark Link 20:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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What? Do you know what a surrogate mother is?
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Once again, you're thinking too hard to make a connection that isn't there.

a mother who is paid to have a child for some one else. isnt it? Oni Dark Link 20:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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Yeh they fertilize an egg from a mother in a little dish and put in someone else. So That means the surrogate mother is not the biological parent. So what do you mean who is the non-biological parent? and Triforce is right, you look way too hard into stuff.

no the surrogate mother is the biological parent. they just dont intend to raise the child. Oni Dark Link 21:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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There is actually more than one form of surrogacy. There is one where the mother looks for someone who wants to adopt when they are pregnant. Or the one I already stated, in which, no they are not the biological parent. And How do you expect to reach a conclusion on this issue when there is no answer to it?

i dont know but it is highly interesting. they really didnt need to include surrogate as it never has any effect on the game. itd be interesting to check the direct japanesse translation and see if its the same. Oni Dark Link 21:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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Either way, it makes no sense since you can't have two surrogate mothers. So maybe its meant to be adoptive mothers. That or maybe Twinrova is the true form, and it is one person that splits into two, rather than two that morph into one.

Idiocy on my Part

I know this is off-topic, but I just realized that Koume and Kotake were holding their sleeves behind their faces. I always thought they just had huuuuuuuge noses. In short, I'm an idiot.

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I did too at first and then I realized it was their sleeves x3

That's funny, I never really noticed that, but I always thought they had huge noses regardless. Baltro [ talk ] 05:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll come back to haunt you

It says in this article that they yell at Link that they'll come back to haunt him. I got the impression that they were yelling that at each other, as they'd just had that big argument, and they didn't really realize that they couldn't come back to haunt someone who was already dead. Do I have permission to change this?03:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)MaloMart (talk)

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Hard to say.

a new therory

i belive that koume and kotake were originaly preistesses who lived in the temple and watched over it in a fasihon similar to what the sage would do however a sage was not yet awakend at the time. the reason i belive this is because of there age: 400 years old. they had to be doing something before the discovery of gannondorf.--Foutlet (talk) 15:55, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

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Yay, theories.
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