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Better image

Would it be O.K if we could use this picture for the main pic in this article? Not only dose it look better but it is the one used in the Wikipedia Triforce article and in not copyrighted by Nintendo (or anyone else for that mater).--ShutUpNavi 02:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, I think the current one looks better, plus this one is only fan art rather than an official picture. Happyjoe5 09:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I like Shutupnavi's image more. It's cleaner and more accurately modeled. Plus, it isn't as obnoxiously as the rotating one. Is there any indication the Triforce actually does that? I somehow doubt it, which therefore also makes that image misleading as well. Unless someone can give solid evidence that the Triforce's natural rest-state involves the constant individual rotation of each segment, I vote to replace it with Shutupnavi's image. 75.50.158.60 00:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Hylian Space
Oath to Order – The perceived badassery of any given action will increase tenfold if the action is performed while on fire.
TALK – 0_o
Wow. somebody who uses proper English and punctuation. Don't see many of those.

On subject: Don't they rotate in the beginning of OoA/S? But I agree. SUN's looks prettier. We shall use it.

We also have the SVG version : File:Triforce.svg.--Richard 01:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Twilit Bloat
Fused Shadow – Undo darkness... Undo light... Create Twilight
TALK – 01:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, OtO you are right, they do rotate at the beginning. But it does not rotate in the majority of the games.


Hylian Space
Oath to Order – The perceived badassery of any given action will increase tenfold if the action is performed while on fire.
TALK – 0_o
Poll time. :)

Guys, a picture that actually moves is more eye-catching that a stationary fan-art. The one SUN has is a good one, to be sure, but it's not nearly as eye-catching as the current one. I think the one that's on there now is far superior to either of these stationary pictures. I'm for the one that's going to look the best and attract the most viewers, and that's the one that's on there now. Hero of Time 87 02:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


Tforce ab
mhavril39 – The Royal M. H. Avril Decrees this
TALK – 02:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I voted for SUN's. Just because it is catching to the eye and moving doesn't make the rotating one best. SUN's is both realistic but still basic, not overly flambouant, shiny, and twirly like the current one.

i'm like HOT, the rotating one is kinda neat. the last one's a good image, but it's also a lil dull. ZeldaFanatic98 04:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I actually have to say that the rotating one is rather distracting and obnoxious, as well as the annoying play of light that doesn't make sense (over the faces). I'm new and when I first looked at this page I had to say it bugged me. Also, the whole attracting more viewers thing is, I think, unnecessary...I know I don't come here to look at pretty pictures, I come here to update my information and see stuff I missed.User:Light and Shadow Aerwyn Caladhiel Elena Telcontar 18:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC) 18:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Which one?
 
9
 
3
 
3
 

The poll was created at 02:33 on October 8, 2009, and so far 15 people voted.


Giant's Mask
Solar flute – "wind, rain, the sun. all can be controlled by this instrument. Take care of it, young link, it is now yours."
TALK
They say, that there is no reference to the tetraforce outside of the hylian shield, but on game & watch legend of zelda there are four. (Now why wasn't it called the quadforce in that game?)

Zelda

"Zelda does not wish to rule with an iron fist, nor does she have the courage to stand up to Ganondorf, and only fights when Link is doing the main work in the battles against Ganondorf."

This seems to make out that Zelda is some kind of coward, which, as far as I can tell, she is not. Should this sentence be edited? Xykeb Zraliv 18:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


XXXXX
XXXXX – Saria: Link, you and I can't exist in the same world. Actually, I'm just dumping you.
TALK – Check out my project: The Mass Menagerie!

Zant, you get away from that crack.

Well, she doesn't stand up to Ganondorf like it says. I think it's right. She's not a complete coward, but she isn't exactly brave.


In Wind Waker and Twilight Princess she fights Ganondorf along with Link and also helps Link (But does not get fully involved in the battle) in Ocarina of Time. How is that not standing up to Ganondorf. And before you get on me about the whole 'Let Link do the main work' think, I'd like to note that it wouldn't really help to become any more involved in the battle, it's not like she could really do anything to hurt Ganondorf other than fire Light Arrows. Link is the one with the Master Sword, after all. Xykeb Zraliv 18:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


XXXXX
XXXXX – Saria: Link, you and I can't exist in the same world. Actually, I'm just dumping you.
TALK – Check out my project: The Mass Menagerie!

The triforce divided will not stand. Where have I heard that before?

She still desn't get very involved. She isn't quick to attack, and when Link gets hurt in OoT, she gasps. She's not a total coward, just not that brave, like I said before.


She only attacks slowly to balance the game. If she attacked quickly, Ganondorf would have no chance (What with Link attacking him at the same time). And I don't really see why gasping would define her as a coward - If your friend were fighting an all-powerful sorcerer that can transform into a huge, destructive beast and you couldn't help him, and then the sorcerer (Transformed into the beast form) started swiping at him with huge swords, you probably would gasp, exclaim, yell, etc. too. Xykeb Zraliv 03:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


Agahnim (A Link to the Past)
Aghanim the Mage – I'm a cheeky lil' so-n'-so from the land of watchmacallit in the planet of Thingamajig :P
TALK – Tell me, are you a cannibal? *nods head* HE'S A CANNY BALL!!!!
I'll tell you why.


1. Zelda is not a complete coward, but she is still afraid of Ganondorf, which is why she does not attack very quickly.


2. Zelda Gasped to show that she is not very brave, because instead of helping him, she just stands there and goes *Gasp!!*


These are why she doesn't get the Triforce of Courage.


3. She does not want to rule as a dictator, so she doesn't get that Triforce either.

GasMaskPsychoHatGuy
AuronKaizer - "Well you don't have a tongue, but that doesn't seem to shut you up, now does it?!?"
TALK - THE LIST - GAMES - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WALRUS GUMBOOT
And besides, Link would NEVER get the Triforce of Wisdom. He doesn't even know that he should hit on Anju, JEEZ! That guy has serious mental shortcomings.

Triforce reunite in Intro

In the intro section, it mentions that "it seems to be possible" for the Triforce to be reunited. It makes mentions of many different games, but makes no mention at all of Windwaker, where Ganondorf actually does reunite the entire triforce. Should someone add this? because I think it is extremely relevant.-LeoLab 15:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Good point. I fixed it. --AuronKaizerKennedy! 17:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Inanimacy

Is that whole section necessary? Shouldn't it be something more like, "Among fans, there is a debate as to whether or not the Triforce is sentient. While its granting of wishes to both good and evil people may seem like a lack of ability to make choices, it may also represent (something something something I hadn't really thought this far ahead)" Or should it be removed entirely? Aeronflux 20:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Majora's Mask Appearance

While playing said game today I noticed that in the beginning after Link turns into a Deku that looking down on that circle of light on the ground there are three gold triangles. Now it isn't fashioned like the triforce, but they are indeed there. Should this be mentioned in the appearences part under Majora's Mask? I don't have a screenshot but if anyone wants to try it out go ahead.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Omni Terra (talkcontribs)

You mean this (image on right)? I don't see any resemblance.--Richard 03:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

It looks more like a radiation symbol to me. It sparks a theory. Maybe zelda actually takes place in the far off future but due to nuclear war and the colapse of civilization we are sent back into the medieval age. Some people are mutated by the radiation and turn into the gorons, deku, and zora. I stole the whole thing from a book. Metroidhunter32 13:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
It looks like a Triforce to me, just the top part is at the bottom instead. It does seem possible, really. midnaslave 17:50, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


Bongo Bongo Artwork
Moblin slayer – Can you feel it, see it, hear it today? If you can't, then it doesn't matter anyway. You will never understand it 'cuz it happens too fast and it feels so good, it's like walking on glass...
TALK Yeah...
Okay, whoever added this, I took the info out because we've kinda come to the conclusion that it is NOT the Triforce.

i do not have an account on here but perhaps it is meant to show that the triforce has been broken up, meaning Link is no longer in Hyrule —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.130.62.35 (talkcontribs)

Golden Fierce Deity
Zelda311 Whenever there is a meeting, a parting shall follow. But that parting needs not last forever. Whether a parting be forever or merely for a short while... that is up to you.
TALK
Sorry it took a while, but, if you look closely you can realize it's each piece of the triforce flipped upside down.

Tri-Force on hand?

Ok, those chosen get the triforce symbol on the back of their hand, which hand... Is it always the left? or is it dependant on wether they are left or right handed? what? Not listed here, so wanted to bring it up? Should this be mentioned here as well, or placed in each related characters descriptions only?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyvius (talkcontribs)

its on gannondorfs right, im not sure about zelda Oni Dark Link


Tetra
Lisa URAQT – "Be be beep be be beep!" --R2D2
TALK QUOTESJOURNALSANDBOXDRAGON — 02:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It's on Link's left, Ganondorf's right, and Zelda's right. Except for Twilight Princess Wii, obviously, since the whole game is mirrored. It's probably determined by if they're right or left handed.


Redead
Redeadhunter – Jump on my back again and I'll give you something to scream about!
TALK – My weapon of choice: The Zombie Sword
Actually, the Triforce seems to switch hands with Ganon in TWW. When Zelda was still Tetra, it was on his right, but, just before the Triforce was reunited, it was on his left, but that could be a 'tendo goof-up

I believe the Triforce Mark can appear on both hands. I mean, when the bearer of a triforce part wants to use its power, he can decide which hand to use. Ganondorf is right-handed so whenever he casts Triforce-magic, like when he transforms in oot he prefers to use his right hand to channel the power. in wind waker he grabed link with his right hand. So he had to use his left hand, since the other was already in use. The triforce doesnt actualy reside in the hand. its in the bearers body. I mean if the ancient sages had cut his right hand off during the execution, he would still be able to use it with his left hand. Or what would happen if someone without hands would use a triforce fragment? Like a regular dekuscrub or a seahorse etc. It would likely apear on its chest, back or forehead or something like that. But that are just my thoughts. --SG-27 (talk) 21:57, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

hacks

i seen a hack of some one obtaining the triforce on you tube (cant remember the exact name and foun it since) and im fairly positive its real. Oni Dark Link

Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf already have the triforce— Triforce 14(...) 22:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I think he refers to another one of these fake videos depicting Link obtaining the Triforce. If one goes through all the source files in the game, you will not find anything about a secret location with the Triforce. Hence, it's not impossible You sir, have been hoodwinked, taken in...AUSTIN 3:16'd. --AuronKaizer(...Kaizer!) 01:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

no im fairly sure its real. a portal on hyrule field brings link to a dark room with a chest which he opens and gets the triforce. it even says when he gets it "you found the triforce. you can already feel its power flowing through you". ill try find it again. Oni Dark Link

Read my lips. THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HELL THAT IS REAL. Just don't add it to the article or anything dude. --AuronKaizer(...Kaizer!) 01:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
how do you know its not real? you havent seen it. and i dont plan on adding it otherwise i already would of Oni Dark Link
Because, as I have stated, Link Zelda and Ganondorf ALREADY HAVE THE PIECES OF THE TRIFORCE. Unless the goddesses created a spare, I highly doubt Nintendo would make something in the game, even a removed scene, where Link obtains the Triforce. It's as simple as that. — Triforce 14(...) 21:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
fine believe what you want to believe im merly saying this scene exisits and if you want to disagree then i cant stop you unless i find the proof again Oni Dark Link
ok found the video again and discovered you were right. its a texture hack buts its really quite good. i musnt of read the discription the first time. if you want to see it heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8-Y299l7sk&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oni Dark Link (talkcontribs)

hey

the trifforce has already been featured as featured article, so why does it still have the nomination template, and doesn't show that it was a former featured article? User:Ccbermanzzpedia 14:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Origins of the symbol

Is there any documentation to back up the idea that the Triforce is based on the symbol/crest of the Shinto goddess Benten? Because it sure would be quite the accidental coincidence if it weren't. If there's any source to back it up - interviews with Zelda creators, etc, it really should be included in this article, don't you think? LordAmeth (talk) 17:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

well yes it would, but we do not do citations on any of our articles, so sorry LordAmeth, it's done differently here than where you are. --C2 Phantom Zant 17:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
The Triforce is said to be based on the emblem of the Hōjō clan. Hero of Space 2 (talk) 15:34, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Proposed cleanup initiative

I sincerely mean no offense, but in proportion to this article's importance I find that it is noticeably lacking in quality. There are problems in consistency of link usage, as well as grammar and sentence structure. Also, I propose that some of the theories presented regarding the tetraforce and other highly speculative pieces be reviewed further and at the very least edited for quality assurance, if not nixed entirely. I am quite new here, but I would love to baby this article for a while as a sort of entry project. Anyone else support my move that this article become the site of major cleanup and quality control? Deku Hero (talk) 11:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)Small Deku Guard

eh. it needs clean-up. maybe sure. just dont become like this guy or have huge amount of edits on a single page. if you want ill make a user sub page for you, so that way you can work on it to your hearts content, without anybody unwantedly bothering you. maybe?--C2 Phantom Zant 13:00, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Tetraforce

Golden Fierce Deity
Zelda311 Whenever there is a meeting, a parting shall follow. But that parting needs not last forever. Whether a parting be forever or merely for a short while... that is up to you.
TALK
I think that the Tetraforce deserves its own page.

I suppose.-- C2 / CC 23:15, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Full Body Link
Mr kmil – "It is not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit." -Zachariah 4:6
TALK – Come to Church, we have cookies
No. The Tetraforce is a theory that doesn't have enough info to stand enough on its own. Leave it be
Zant
Ccbermanzzpedia – "Hocus-Pocus, I am Harry Potter and turn you into Fairy :P"--Imature Harry Potter
TALK – 23:35, November 2, 2009 (UTC) Timeline My edits ?x?
Whoops. I was talking about something I had no idea on. Now that I know, I agree with Kmil.

could the tetra force and the goddess of time not be a seperate goddess but the idea of all the goddesses working or being together.--Ironknuckle1 00:32, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Golden Fierce Deity
Zelda311 Whenever there is a meeting, a parting shall follow. But that parting needs not last forever. Whether a parting be forever or merely for a short while... that is up to you.
TALK
Honestly that sounds a tad obscure, I don't even believe its true. It's pure speculation and fanfiction.
GasMaskPsychoHatGuy
AuronKaizer - "And give us one of those Elvis-shaped decanters. We wanna drink from the neck hole of the King!"
TALK - THE LIST - GAMES - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WALRUS GUMBOOT 13:16, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Umm, we just can't create a separate article for something that there is no proof even exists. Even including it now is a bit of a stretch.

zelda ii

dont know why im asking this since evryone hates zelda ii but who weilds the triforce of power in zelda ii? it appears as if Link keeps it at the end of the first game does this make it a possibilty that he has it in zelda II as well? or did he give it to princess zelda and if so why since he was allowed to have it at the end of the first game and it would be a usefull item in his journey Oni Dark Link 19:37, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


Link didn't probably have the guts to rule as powerful, so the Triforce Of Power couldn't have merged with Link, instead it probably remained where Gannon was defeated. Even if Link would have kept the Triforce, it would have left him as imagining Link as an all-powerful leader is a little exaggerating. SandFlyer83 (Talk) 03:37, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

You see Link obtaining it at the end then giving one triforce piece to zelda and keeping one for himself Oni Dark Link 03:41, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

He probably took the Triforce Of Power, then gave Wisdom back to Zelda. The Triforce Of Power then left Link in between the two games, and the Triforce Of Courage was discovered. SandFlyer83 (Talk) 03:47, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Their own article

Shouldn't the Triforce of Courage, Triforce of Power, and Triforce of Wisdom have their own article? --Cococrash11 (talk) 07:16, December 14, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11

Eh... not really. There isn't a whole lot of difference between the two, and I think in this case that keeping them the same article is the better option.-- C2 / CC 13:15, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

They are very diffrent like how they function and alot of diffrent facts about them even in diffrent games. --Cococrash11 (talk) 09:19, December 26, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11

I kinda like the idea and was going to do it myself a long time ago, but I either forgot it or changed my mind. --AuronKaizer! 17:22, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
AK, if you want to do it, I'm all for it. Just realize how much work this would be. This is one of those few things that pretty much needed to be decided on from the beginning. But if you want to, I have no issues with it. And yes I realize this was from December, but its a major issue and I'm just seeing it now. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:13, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Appearance in spirit tracks!!!!!

Saria
Zelda phoenix – Hyrule legends will become a great page I PROMISE!!!
TALK Zelda phoenix 16:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I didn't play spirit tracks,but I think someone should write about the appearance in spirit tracks!!

Who says it appears in it? I mean if you haven't played it how do you know.—Triforce 14Triforce4 14:48, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wish Granting

Aquamentus (Oracle of Seasons)
Oni Dark Link – "Omnia sonat melius in Latine"
TALK – {{{time}}}~ evaluations reviews walkthrough
Replaying Link to the Past and I noticed a bit of text I never really paid attention to before.

"The Triforce will grant the wishes of whoever touches it, as long as that person lives".

As long as that person lives means that the king's wish regarding Link and Zelda was completely pointless since he dies immediately afterwards (or was he even alive in the first place? I mean it's not natural for a living person to exist for a thousands years). Also means Link's wish at the end of A Link to the Past would stop having effect at his death so all Ganon did would be redone. I am skeptical about this. Does anyone that can speak and use a Japanese text dump check this out? I have a feeling it's one of many mistranslations in the game. The quote is said by the maiden in the Swamp Palace

This is probably a differential in power, as A Link to the Past was probably in a different timeline, and the Triforce of that Timeline could have been altered. The one in Wind Waker was probably different than the one in ALttP. Also, Link's wish would have been one-sided, it would have restored the realm, and would have left it in its position, as Ganon was now defeated. Although you could be right. If ALttP, and WW have the same timeline, it could be a typo. SandFlyer83 (Talk) 03:44, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


Skull Kid Artwork (Majora's Mask)
Xykeb Zraliv – 3. “But through ill deeds and unpious living, the Aspects become tarnished, and with this tarnish my name shall never be known, and the trinity will be cast forever into the dark ocean between our lands.
TALK – it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
Oh please. A sacred relic of the goddesses suddenly changing powers for no reason whatsoever just because of timeline differences? That makes no sense. The most likely possibility is that it's just a retcon by Nintendo.

I always did lack Common Sense :) SandFlyer83 (Talk) 03:55, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Tetraforce evidence

RobotSpiderWeb
Miles.oppenheimer – Audi famam illius / Solus in hostes ruit / et patriam servavit / Audi famam illius / Cucurrit quaeque / tetigit destruens.
TALK – 22:29, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
Claim of the Hylian Shield being the only location of the fourth triangle pointing downwards is false.

Thats hardly evidence or proof. And it was noted long ago hence why other later Zeldas dont have it Oni Dark Link 22:33, February 24, 2010 (UTC)


RobotSpiderWeb
Miles.oppenheimer – Audi famam illius / Solus in hostes ruit / et patriam servavit / Audi famam illius / Cucurrit quaeque / tetigit destruens.
TALK – 22:35, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
To be clear, I don't believe in that theory myself. I was simply pointing out that the clause saying that the only evidence was the Hylian Shield was inaccurate.

i don't think there is a fourth piece but you should make a page for it. it is a major theory in zelda. --Red Rider (talk) 00:10, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem."--Ronald Reagan
TALK
Maybe someone will at some point.

Protection

Why is this protected? --A.Burr (talk) 04:58, May 10, 2010 (UTC)


Tetra
Lisa URAQT – "THE CANADIANS ARE COMEING HIDE THE PANCAKES!!!!" --Griffen78
TALK QUOTESJOURNALSANDBOXDRAGON — 02:31, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Most likely because it went through excessive vandalism or was considered at risk of vandalism. It's only semi-protected, which means only auto-confirmed users can edit. In other words, no anonymous users and you have to have had your account for more than four days.

Oh OK then. --A.Burr (talk) 05:35, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

The Triforce In TP and The Timeline Split

First of all I'd like to apologize if there's actual canonical information I'm missing, and I'm getting worked up over nothing. Anyway:

Ok guys, from what I know (and I've played through all the relevant games and re-watched endings and whatnot), the entire section about the Triforce in Twilight Princess is a bunch of groundless theorizing to make an excuse for the Triforce being in possession of Ganon/Link/Zelda during TP. I personally can't actually find proof that the Triforce even is in TP. Even if we assume that the Triforce is in TP (I still find that to be an assumption and not fact, but maybe it's just me), I'm fairly certain the explanations this page has for how it got there are unconfirmed theories. If they are, it needs to say so in this page instead of stating them as facts. I talk at length about this whole issue HERE on my talk page. I'd like to quickly point out here though that the Triforce emblem has been known appear on the hands of people who don't actually have a piece.--Fierce Deku (talk) 01:39, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

This Page is Lying Fixed!

I brought this up in the above topic among other places, but it's gone unnoticed. I think it's a pretty significant thing so I'm making a somewhat more attention grabbing heading. Anyway:

As far as I can tell, pretty much the entire Twilight Princess section of this article is theory, and some pretty out there theories at that. There is a big issue with the Triforce in TP, as it would seem like it shouldn't have been taken from the sacred realm in the child timeline. I personally think that it's a distinct possibility that the Triforce is actually not in TP, with the assumed references to people possessing it actually having other explanations. I talk in detail about the issue >HERE<. I know it's a long thing to read, but I don't know any better way to present all the relevant the information. At the very least we need to mark a lot of this TP Triforce section as theory, unless someone has proof of any of it. I really don't want to mess with something so significantly without some feedback first, but lacking any other information I'll eventually have to assume that what I'm thinking is correct and make some major revisions :\

--Fierce Deku (talk) 21:42, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

So you are saying that the Triforce in TP should be a theory based on the Split Timeline Theory? I think you need to consider TP in and of itself and not base it around it's chronological place in the series since only a couple games have a confirmed placement (MM after OoT and ST after PH). --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:09, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
1-The split timeline "theory" is confirmed. It is no more a guess than the theory of gravity.
2-TP is confirmed to be after OoT and MM, and is known to be in the child timeline.
3-The TP sub-section of the Triforce page IS talking about TP based on it's chronological place in the timeline, as opposed to it in and of itself.
Read the TP section of the Triforce page yourself and tell me that it isn't theory. If it really isn't than great, that's exactly the kind of information I'm trying to get.--Fierce Deku (talk) 22:22, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say this clearly enough before, but even if you believe that it's an absolute fact that the Triforce is in TP, this page is making some huge assumptions about how it got there. Those assumptions at the very least need to be tagged as theories, unless someone can confirm any of them.--Fierce Deku (talk) 02:51, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Look, the whole triforce thing is a bigarse theory. Complaining about not having theory tags is basically getting nowhere. --ϐαςς ᴶαϟϟιJapas Artwork 00:57, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah...I see what you mean *cough*HoT87*cough*. That definitely needs to be rewritten to avoid making timeline references and speculations. Jedimasterlink (talk) 01:01, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks you SO MUCH for fixing that article! Those are exactly the changes I've been hoping for, I was just too afraid to make them myself without some support first. It's kind of a major article and I was worried people wouldn't understand why I was messing with it so massively. Yay. Now that that's cleared up I'm going to look for any other related articles that also need clearing up. While I personally think the no-TP-Triforce theory makes more sense, that's just my opinion; you're right that the game "strongly implies" the Triforce's presence, and that's exactly what I intend to say in actual articles.--Fierce Deku (talk) 01:42, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Bad "Bearers of the Triforce" Section

Everything I see in this section has either been covered already earlier on the page, or is a completely groundless theory that is NOT in a theory section. All the things is says about the holder's characteristics changing with a Triforce piece are completely unsupported. Would anyone object if I just deleted the entire thing?--Fierce Deku (talk) 10:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Not I. --AuronKaizer! 10:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
Actually it's the only place that mentions the Triforce "resonating" and revealing itself when pieces are near each other. I'm going to look up vids where this happens so I know I'm explain it correctly, then replace the entire "Bearers of the Triforce" section with just that; unless me or someone else can think of a better place to put Triforce resonation information.--Fierce Deku (talk) 10:32, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
I've banished the whole bearers section to the Dark World. I changed the title to "Interactions of Triforce Pieces", expanded on the resonating thing, and added a couple other points relating to the subject.--Fierce Deku (talk) 12:03, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

New Pages

Are we ever going to make pages for the Triforce pieces and shards? I was under the impression that everyone agreed on it and it was mean to happen quite a while ago Oni Dark Link 12:53, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, obviously, right now, big editing tasks like this should wait until the whole move situation is decided. Aside from that, it can be chalked up to procrastination, the task being humongous, forgetting it, etc. Take your pick. --AuronKaizer! 13:27, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I just want to make sure its not forgotten about completely due to too much procrastination and forgetting Oni Dark Link 13:49, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

What would this entail exactly? Would we move or copy the existing Triforce of P/W/C subsections into their own page, and reorganize them a bit to have separate game sections and an intro? What exactly do we gain by having separate pages? We already have specific Triforce of __ references linking straight to the appropriate subsection, so I'm not sure separate pages would change things much. If there is a consensus on separate pages though, I'd be happy to help make it happen.--Fierce Deku (talk) 22:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
Entirely separate articles, most ideally rewritten from the ground up, considering there are too many conflicts with our markup and phrasing for the current information, which predates mostly any markup rules we've since made, to be of much use. What do we stand to gain? That's somewhat immaterial right now, since the majority decision has been made. I don't recall specifically where the discussion was made, but reading the archive might enlighten you as to this whole deal. --AuronKaizer! 15:14, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
All I can find discussion wise is this talk page and this forum. There is definitely support for the idea, though the only mention of why exactly is "They are very diffrent like how they function and alot of diffrent facts about them even in diffrent games.". The existing game specific sub-articles cover where it's been, and as far as what the individual pieces do, it's pretty much all speculation, I was just editing about that. The existing page could maybe use a little TLC, but doesn't seem all that bad to me, probably I'm just not familiar enough with these phrasing and markup conventions you're talking about. I could do something to help with this, like write up a draft of an article for one of the pieces, but unless someone explains to me what exactly we're trying to accomplish here I don't know that I'd be much help.--Fierce Deku (talk) 12:17, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Tetraforce POV

The Topic on Tetraforce is too opinionated. Wikis should be neutral on a topic so people can make their own judgements not be provided with one.

What is your point here? I'm sorry you're dissatisfied with our Tetraforce section. If there's something else you're trying to get at please say it because your message seems kind of pointless. -Minish Link 02:48, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
The Tetraforce and other theory sections look kind of messy to me (I might do a re-write of some of them *I've redone a lot of the theory section now), but I don't see how the Tetraforce section is opinionated. It seems to me there is simply more evidence that it does not exist than there is supporting evidence. Can you point out a specific quote that sounds opinionated (*again, I've changed it since this topic came up)?--Fierce Deku (talk) 02:59, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

トライフォース

My account is not old enough to edit this page yet, but I will add that the Japanese name for the triforce is トライフォース (toraifōsu?) as shown on the official Japanese website for the 3D remake of LoZ:OoT in the picture with the tree face. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/aqej/#/story/story02/--Puoukkk (talk) 03:56, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Triforce Of Life

i think the 4th triforce should be life because power courage and wisdom all are not used for life (exept when zelda gave her life to midna). so i think it should be life.LittleMarioBigWorld (talk)

If this is just a random thought about stuff, then hear's a heads up that talk pages are only for discussion about improving the article itself. If you're suggesting this go in the article, then well, there's no supporting evidence for it. The supporting evidence for the Triforce having a fourth piece is week in the first palce, and far more evidence points to it only having three, including in-game evidence and word of god (various people from Nintendo said there are only 3 pieces).--FierceDeku 03:10, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

i forgot that. sorry.LittleMarioBigWorld (talk) 21:49, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

tetraforce

should there be an article for the tetraforce in the zelda culture category? Ragin' Bull (talk)

I have no idea about that one. While it is a major concept in the Zelda community, it is still just a theory. Then again, we have pages for various Zelda timeline theories. So I don't know. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 21:16, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Hell no. --AuronKaizer! 23:08, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. It seems like a very ZW thing to do. At the most, a theory section on the Triforce page. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:04, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Triforce Origins

I know in Ocarina of Time they specify that the three goddesses, or the golden goddesses, created the triforce. However in Skyward Sword Zelda calls its creators "the old gods". I know this doesn't mean it wasn't the three goddesses but I find it strange because they always differentiate between gods and goddesses and since she said "gods", that suggests that the creators were perhaps male deities. I think this peculiarity should be added to the Triforce page under "Skyward Sword" because it's something to be considered.

There is a fourth Goddess!

As a fourth Goddess, Hylia should be mentioned in the Tetraforce section, don't you think?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.127.159 (talkcontribs)

-_- --AuronKaizer! 01:03, December 7, 2011 (UTC)
Except Hylia isn't one of the Golden Goddesses (they are refered to as the "Old Gods" in Skyward Sword), she is a lesser God who was chosen to guard the Triforce once the Golden Goddesses left Hyrule. Evnyofdeath 01:27, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Chronology.

Since the timeline has officially been revealed, don't you think we should create a chronological section for the Triforce that depicts its occurances as indicated on the official timeline from the Hyrule Historia? I mean, the appearances section was appropriate when we didn't know the timeline placement of the various games, but we know the timeline placement now, so the appearances section is no longer necessary, I think. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:13, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

There's no real reason. True Zelda has an overall story but not as much as most series. Each story is pretty much independent of the others. There is no real benefit to putting them into section by timeline. Not only that but I feel the timeline placement will be debated much and even putting it in sequence on a page would be confusing since it has three separate strains Oni Dark Link 18:23, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
Wait, I thought the timeline issue was settled upon the mention of Aonuma being the one who wrote the timeline included in the Hyrule Historia. Besides, since there's a timeline, why not add it in. It shouldn't be too hard. All we need to do is make subsections in the history section that relate to the pre-Ocarina of Time events that were mentioned in the respective games, and the three diverging timeline events so it won't have too much trouble. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:34, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
We always organize things by game sections. We should continue to do so, because official timeline or not, the information is always centered around the stories of individual games, whereas timeline linking events are sort of secondary events and/or stupid nausea-inducing cop outs. That being said, for things like the Triforce which recur throughout the timeline, I believe a separate timeline section should be added, which can explain how it progresses through time. It can gloss over game-specific events but clarify connections between games, which are often not relevant to the individual game sections we currently file all our info under. A paragraph for each segment would do fine (one for SS through OoT and one for each of the two *sob* three timeline branches). As much as I personally despise the official timeline, I think a timeline overview for things like the Triforce would be extremely helpful/popular.--FierceDeku 01:31, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Found in...

Should the "Found" section of the infobox include the Silent Realm from Skyward Sword? —Ceiling Master (talk) 02:53, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not quite that far in the game, but if we're definitely sure the pieces themselves are in the Silent Realm and not the Sky Keep, and that the place is confirmed to be the Silent Realm and not just something that looks similar, then it would presumably be put in the infobox. However, that would also be somewhat of a spoiler, so I'm not sure how we should handle that.--FierceDeku 06:34, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

It's not so much similar as it is identical in design. All the same traits of the silent realm are present. I also think it wouldn't be that huge a spoiler since there's no indication that the silent realm is where you'll find it and really it has no effect on the story (Link might as well have just found it in a chest for all it matters. I think they just threw in the Silent Realm there so it would serve as some kind of early Sacred Realm). Seriously I'd consider it more of a spoiler for the info box to say Sky Keep as that rightfully suggests it's in the sky. Oni Dark Link 18:46, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

On the other hand, saying that the Triforce is in the Silent Realm is jumping to a conclusion. It is almost (but not quite) as heavily implied as Deku Butler's Son, to be sure, but even that case is labelled a theory. I'm not entirely against putting "possibly the Silent Realm" in the infobox since it's so strongly implied, though. Spoilers in infoboxes may be something we need to discuss in the forums. Jedimasterlink (talk) 19:00, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's the Silent Realm, because Link sticks his sword in the ground, he has no items, and everything is creepy and blue. —Ceiling Master 21:53, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

I feel like pointing out that there is noting to suggest Link in Oracle of Ages isn't a Goron aside from visual observation. Not trying to be snarky or anything but sometimes I think we need to take these things at face value. In a more realistic example the Triforce is never called such in Twilight Princess yet we have a section for that. Oni Dark Link 23:16, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

"You humans are looking stranger every day." -someone from Oracle of Ages, talking to Link :p Sorry. Anyway, the Triforce's TP section doesn't claim that it's necessarily physically there in the game. I absolutely think we should mention that the Triforce is in a place which looks/is accessed just like the Silent Realm, and do it outside of theory tags, but putting it in the infobox would be like stating that it is totally confirmed. It just feels like a step more confirmation than it technically has. Saying "Possibly Silent Realm" in the infobox sounds awkward, but I suppose it's implied strongly enough that I wouldn't object to that.--FierceDeku 03:22, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Tetraforce

I really feel like we should remove the Tetraforce theory since Miyamoto specifically denied its existence multiple times and went as far as to change shield designs because of it. It feels pretty stupid to have a theory that has been proven wrong by one of the creators >.> -Minish Link 14:48, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

True. It really isn't a theory anymore. But the thing about this topic is that although it is real dumb and fan created, it was explicitly addressed by Nintendo. So I think that makes it notable to include somewhere, but maybe not as a theory. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 14:53, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

I'm also in favor of keeping it (though possibly somewhere else). It is pretty big among fans and the fact that Nintendo have acknowledged it's existence (or lack thereof) is important. We have a page for the Single Link Theory after all even though the games themselves have disproved that years ago. Oni Dark Link 14:58, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should keep it just for notability purposes, but it definitely needs to occupy a smaller percentage of the overall page than it does now. Just a short paragraph saying something like "Many fans believe in the concept of a "Tetraforce", or the idea that there is a fourth piece of the Triforce that fits into the gap in the center. Credence for this theory comes from the design of the Hylian Shield in Ocarina of Time, which depicts a fourth triangle beneath the three representing the Triforce. However, Nintendo has repeatedly denied the existence of such a concept, and the Hylian Shield has been redesigned in later games." The current five paragraphs, plus an extraneous section at the bottom and most of the section on the Light Force's relationship with the Triforce, is way too much balance for a theory that only merits inclusion because of how many people believe or used to believe it. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 16:16, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
That sounds good to me. In fact, I'll go ahead and replace it with that now. -Minish Link 16:56, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Courage Capability

I had a new (or at least new to me) theory about the Triforce of Courage. Is it possible that its power is shielding its wielder from some maledictions? This could be evidenced by how, in Ocarina of Time, Ganondorf didn't kidnap Link and Zelda simultaneously (Link being protected from the magic that had ensnared Zelda), and again in Wind Waker when he teleported Zelda away, but left Link alone, and later attacked him physically atop the tower instead of with magic. This protection is not ubiquitous, but as another point in the article suggests, it could at least counteract some magics originating from the Triforce of Power. Miht this be worth mentioning in the section? Setras (talk) 05:11, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

I think your quite right about this especially considering the waves of darkness that stop Navi from Z targeting Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time but don't effect Link. Normally I'd shoot down your suggestions though because they're all based on possibilities. However looking at the current section for the Triforce of Courage, it's already extremely speculative. Worse still it shoots down all the theories it presents. I think it definitely needs some kind of revision and the magic protection that you suggested holds more ground then what's there already at least from what I can see. Oni Dark Link 13:49, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not the strongest theory, but it has more actual evidence than some stuff already on the page. I won't oppose adding it. Jedimasterlink (talk) 20:57, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Essence of the Triforce

So me and FD were discussing on Skype the possibility of making a character page for the Essence of the Triforce that appears at the end of A Link to the Past. We have a page for Phi who is pretty much the same thing for the Master Sword. The only concern being whether or not we necessarily need to give it it's own page when it could be covered fully here given how little information there is. Either way the Essence of the Triforce should be covered on the Wiki somewhere as it is a pretty important part of the Triforce as a whole. Oni Dark Link 18:50, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Alternate Triforce

In the latest Nintendo Direct Satoru Iwata said, "This shadowy Triforce suggests the existence of another Triforce in a different world from where link is" when talking about the Triforce shadow in the A Link Between Worlds title artwork. Should this information warrant a unique article or at this point should the information be noted on this page? --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:35, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Pics of the Triforce

So, the article's gallery is pretty low on images. So I've got a few questions?

  • Should I upload a "basic depiction of the Triforce?

Thanks in advance. -wikiman meet. talk. 20:47, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


Destroyed Triforce

I think whenever the triforce is destroyed it gets dark, we can see that with the lorule triforce. At the end of the game it becomes golden again. So I thought that any of the triforces (two as far as we know that exist) will become dark after being destroyed Just thought that this should be mentioned somewhere. Wahabthesmasher (talk) 05:30, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Triforce's powers and restrictions.

Since Ganon lost a number of times against Link regardless of the Triforce of Power, I kinda assume the Triforce has a restriction in which evil users can't wield it's full power. Also, the Triforce doesn't necessarily disappear when used as shown in The Adventures of Link and Skyward Sword.--Zakitaro (talk) 12:34, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

The prologue of A Link to the Past specifically states that the Triforce, as an inanimate object, cannot judge between good and evil. The inanimate object part of it is brought into question with the force that speaks to Link at the end of the game but this aspect of the Triforce is still an important aspect of the series. It's why the villains are after it, if for some reason they couldn't use it, all the tension in the series would disappear. The Legends provided in Ocarina of Time also specifically state an evil person can wield it and the result would be terrible if they did. Furthermore, while the full extent of Ganondorf's natural powers versus the powers gained with the Triforce of Power are ambiguous, it at least seems to grant him immortality and agelessness as he survives getting stabbed in the face in Ocarina of Time (and credits the Triforce of Power has the thing that lets him eternally take revenge on Link and Zelda) and every instance in which he has died it was after shortly loosing the Triforce of Power (except in the Oracle games were he hadn't had it in a while). He might also use it to boost his magic and transform in to Ganon as it's credited for what let him take over Hyrule in Ocarina of Time. Either way it seems to give him a much bigger boost in ability than Link and Zelda's respective pieces. If the Triforce disappears in Zelda II is not really clear since we don't see it after it uses it's magic, but the steps and Zelda's bed also disappear. Even so the fact that it does clearly vanish in The Wind Waker provides a contradiction entirely unrelated to the matter. I have found no real evidence to disprove your idea aside from a line in the ALTTP Prologue but I think circumstantial evidence and the overall theme of the series is enough to suggest that an unjudging Triforce is the case, something that is already reinforced heavily throughout the article. However the idea does have some merit in my opinion as i would give some explanation to the strange set up of the Triforce of A Link To The Past which has long confused me (my biggest guess is that Ganon knew he had an unbalanced heart between Courage, Wisdom and Power and that was his reason for not using it fully). I think a Theory section could be appropriate provided you can word it well. However, it should be clear that Ganon did not actively use the Triforce in battle with Link since he did not have a piece within him, and in all instances using the full version requires touching it (maybe that's the reason he fled to the pyramid in the firs place and Link caught up with him just in time). We can only address why Ganon didn't use it before then. Oni Dark Link 13:00, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

It should be noted that Wind Waker contradicts a number of themes in previous Legend of Zelda series such as the Master Sword's powers and restraints. In fact, the game itself contradicts most series in one way or another. Also, I didn't say evil beings can't completely use the Triforce of Power, just that it seemingly can't be used to the fullest extent if the user is really evil. I also don't really think Ganon not having the Triforce of Power for a while actually affected him in anyway in the Oracle games as even the one in Twilight Princess managed to survive being executed by the Sages despite seemingly just gaining the Triforce Piece at the time. As for Ganon's abilities, since he has the Triforce of Power, that kinda explains his numerous amount of power doesn't it? And it seems the Triforce doesn't have to be touched in order to use it as shown Skyward Sword. It seems that the user of the Triforce is actually connected to it as shown multiple times in the games.--Zakitaro (talk) 13:18, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Skyward Sword is definitely the irregularity on the touching aspect as it is specifically stated in the legends and all background material that touching is necessary. In The Wind Waker, the King of Hyrule getting there first is the important thing, not Ganondorf assembling it in The Wind Waker. Likewise Link clearly touches it in A Link to the Past. My guess of he interaction is that Link did touch it as he collected it, and then made his wish afterwards while the Triforce was doing it's floating around thing, identical to how it appeared in The Adventure of Link. I guess it's up to interpretation, but I never got the impression Ganondorf only go the Triforce of Power in that moment. Only that he didn't manage to escape until that moment. Though it would explain a few things. Even so, the entire thing is ambiguous and some people are convinced Ganondof didn't even have the Triforce during Twilight Princess. Back on the original point though, there is nothing to suggest Ganon is using the triforce in his battle with Link. He makes no claim about using it or says anything along the lines of "how could you defeat the might of the triforce!" In fact he explicitly says he intends to make his wish after defeating Link, with "no delay", meaning the scenario is as I presented it above. Ganon fled to the pyramid in order to use the Triforce but Link caught up to him before he had a chance. Oni Dark Link 11:54, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Still, Ganon lost a number of times despite having the Triforce of Power thus hinting bad guys can't actually use the full extent of it's powers. You would really think a person that wields omnipotence (or ultimate power) who is evil would just finish everything in a flash with said power, right? It would somewhat make sense that the goddesses would at least make some fail safe in case an evil being were to gain the Triforce. They did (supposedly) technically create it for the beings of Hyrule after all so it that kinda add things up (although considering there actions in Wind Waker, they don't exactly seem to be smart even though they're supposedly omnipotent). Besides, if that's the case, the Triforce itself talked in the game despite supposedly being an inanimate object or energy. It instructed Link to use it's power to undo the damages it caused which hints it's technically on the side of good. Perhaps the Triforce doesn't actually have to be touched (since some of the legends turned out to be bogus as the story got deeper) and Link knew because of his wisdom that gained in his journey. Plus, Ganon seemingly used the powers he got from the Triforce of Power in A Link to the Past such as turning into his beast form. --Zakitaro (talk) 12:12, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

The inital idea of the beas form was that it was he form Ganon naturally took in the Dark World like Link's pink rabbit form. He has also been shown using he beast form without the Triforce like in the Orcale games and Hyrule Warriors meaning it is something that allows him to take a beastial form, but it is not a power connected to the Triforce beyond being an aid. The triforce of power has never been shown to give ultimate power either so I don't know what you're talking about there. If it did give ultimate power then there would be no need for the omnipetence of the united triforce. Lana got the Triforce of Power in Hyrule Warriors and managed to loose it meaning there is either no difference, or good guys have it worse off. Oni Dark Link 12:46, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Well the beast Triforce thing was something that was shown in Twilight Princess so it's slightly complicated there. Making things even more complicated is the mystery as to how the Triforce even appeared in the first place. As for the Triforce of Power, I'm pretty sure it gives you unrivaled physical power but not omnipotence itself thus why Ganon would want the full Triforce. He did seemingly want to shape the world in his image. As for the Lana part, Hyrule Warriors isn't technically connected to the main series so that could be the reason behind that. Anyways, since the goddesses seems to somewhat care for others (aside from their somewhat lack of foresight) along with the Triforce being shown as sentient and on the side of good in one point during the game, it is possible that bad guys can't fully wield it. In fact, it was shown and proven that a person that wants the Triforce needs to have a balanced amount of courage, wisdom and power as well as a pure heart (shown in Skyward Sword) to wield it. This was also shown in Ocarina of Time. In fact, it's questionable why Ganon didn't just use the Triforce to defeat everyone in A Link to the Past instead of going through all that trouble over some sages.--Zakitaro (talk) 13:21, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

You're arguing against yourself here. I brought up Lana because you seemed to be under the impression several comments back that the Triforce of Power by itself grants omnipotence. But this conversation is going in circles without getting anywhere. The crux of the matter is the fact that there is nothing to support Ganon ever attempted to use the triforce to defeat Link. Therefore we cannot say conclusively that it has limitations. If you feel like it, you can add a theory section putting forward it as a possibility why Ganon didn't use the Triforce in A Link to the Past but it can only be placed in a theory section. It should also be noted that Ganon was trying to use the Triforce at the end of the game (to rule both the light and dark world) but Link stopped him. These are the facts we know and these are the only things that can be put in the article. Oni Dark Link 14:44, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

I was referring to the full Triforce (in A Link to the Past) when I wrote omnipotence, not just a part of it. Anyways, I did point out the fact that Ganon didn't and perhaps couldn't use the Triforce during the events of A Link to the Past. Since Ganon was said to have gained the Triforce before the sages sealed him away, it really leaves the question as to why he didn't use it before Link and Zelda interfered. By the sages sealing him away part, I'm referring the ones from Ocarina of Time in the fallen hero timeline where Ganon gained the full Triforce after his victory. Also, aren't you forgetting how it was explained that the Triforce can't be used by deities in Skyward Sword? --Zakitaro (talk) 15:28, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

From the Prologue of A Link to the Past:

"Suspecting that Ganon's power was based on the Triforce's magic, the people of Hyrule forged a sword resistant to magic which could repulse even powers granted by the Triforce. This mighty weapon became known as the blade of evil's bane, or the Master Sword."
— [emphasis added]

Obviously, the story of how the Master Sword came to be has changed multiple times, but its powers have remained the same; in every game where Ganon draws his power from the Triforce (either the whole thing or just Power) except the first, which can easily be attributed to the lore of the series being undeveloped, the Master Sword is essential to Link's ability to defeat him. In fact, the Triforce's inability to withhold its power from evil ones is the reason the Master Sword is used as a key to the Sacred Realm in OoT -- it was supposed to judge a person's purity of heart while the Triforce can only judge whether its three attributes are in balance. As for why Ganon didn't use the Triforce to remove every obstacle in his way, I always assumed the Triforce only allowed one wish per person, which seems to be an essential assumption not only for ALttP, but several games where the Triforce is successfully assembled. Otherwise, there are games where Link could have used the completed Triforce's power but didn't. Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:37, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

What about how the Master Sword sealed Link from Ocarina of Time because he was too young, yet it so far hasn't showed that restriction again in other games? Plus, in Wind Waker, the Master Sword required prayers from two sages to activate it's powers for some reason. This shows the Master Sword's powers and limitations also change throughout the game. Anyways, the Triforce doesn't just seem to be some kind of wish granting device as evidenced when the Hyrule Royal Family used it's power to govern Hyrule in the Fallen Hero Timeline. I kinda assumed Link just didn't use it's power because he thought he didn't require it (that, and because the game would have ended more quickly). Therefore I think my theory has some credit to this wiki, doesn't it? May I also ask why you blocked me that time when I edit warred with other people over multiple pages? I assumed that you first get a warning before being blocked if it's your first time. Plus, I did write about how we should talk it over, about at least a few minutes before you blocked me. --Zakitaro (talk) 02:29, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

It's true that the Master Sword can lose its powers if you cut them at the source, but once those powers are restored, it's always strong enough to defeat Ganon. I have no idea how to account for why the Master Sword only sealed away a potential hero once, though. I think we've reached a point where the plot holes across several games allow for multiple interpretations, so you may add the theory again. As for the block, I thought Oni warned you at some point during that exchange, but regardless of that, you're right; I should have said something on your talk page first and given you time to slow down. I apologize for that. Jedimasterlink (talk) 03:26, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

Apology is accepted.--Zakitaro (talk) 04:27, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

I don't really think a ban was necessary, but for the record, I gave a warning on this page about the protocol for edit wars. I was going to give a second warning here but Jedi reverted the edit before I did. Oni Dark Link 11:08, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

illuminati confirmed.

Kirbyfan22222 (talk) 13:27, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

BoTW

thou the triforce is not mention at all in breath of the wild it shown on zelda's hand when she seals and defeat Calamity Ganon the triforce appears to be shown in a whole parts meaning zelda has courage and power should'nt this page have breath of the wild listed (ThLastCarmine (talk) 00:16, April 26, 2017 (UTC))

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