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Link Attacking (Spirit Tracks)
DekuStickMaster – And now there's no treasure? Well...I QUIT!
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I think the reason why Malladus couldn't access the Sacred Power was because he didn't adjust to Zelda's body. Should that be changed?
Link Attacking (Spirit Tracks)
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Wait, but later Malladus was "fully" resurrected, according to Cole. But was still driven out by a Light Arrow, so I think he wasn't fully adjusted.

Alright, I made an edit to try and fix what is already here, but this page is ridiculous. It explains the games entire plot and nothing about the sacred power at all. I mean it isn't mentioned much in spirit tracks so I can understand people trying to lengthen it, but it is also full of speculation. Since when did the light arrow effect Zelda repossesing her body?! Someone really has to clean this up.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 12:12, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I can do that, what do you want done?--Marx Wraith (talk) 17:18, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it isnt the best article but it is certainly noteable enough. And Anjean states that the light arrow would effect Zelda's repossesing of her body (something along the lines of I dont know what effect it will have on your body, you might not be able to reclaim it) Oni Dark Link 22:06, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Some where along those lines most likely. --Marx Wraith (talk) 16:01, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Theory Section

Aquamentus (Oracle of Seasons)
Oni Dark Link – "The written word is all that stands between memory and oblivion. Without books as our anchors, we are cast adrift, neither teaching nor learning. They are windows on the past, mirrors on the present, and prisms reflecting all possible futures. Books are lighthouses erected in the dark sea of time. - Jeffery Robbins"
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When in Phantom Hour Glass is it stated Tetra has the Light Force?
Forgot to mention it as the Japanese version, where it's stated as the Force. Not sure if it's the same though, since it seems quite different in Minish Cap (where it's shown as a sacred, unique and powerful thing which Vaati had his eye on) and Phantom Hourglass (where it's apparently a common thing for everyone) but since the name is same, it's possible. It was stated that Bellum was attracted to the dwelling amount of Force inside Tetra which was why he cursed her. Ether way though, it seems to have been their intention (to explain Zelda's mystical powers when not using a Triforce piece) before the Hylia thing, which I kinda pointed out the flaws in. Don't know why they don't just say it's a normal thing though, since Hylians are magical beings to begin with. --Zakitaro (talk) 12:02, July 29, 2015 (UTC)
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Ah I see. I thought it strange that I'd miss something like that. You seem to have access to Japanese text dumps, can you confirm they actually are the same? As in they use the same characters. The translation your using could easily be generalizing, ie one could be light force while the other could be bright force, for a foreign language both those terms could be translated to the same thing even if they are distinct. If it's definitely intended to be the same term we could actually add it to the Light Force page.
I speak and understand Japanese which is why I can also understand the original texts. I see the original texts then compare it with the English versions. --Zakitaro (talk) 23:49, July 29, 2015 (UTC)
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Oni Dark Link – "I don't know. But it's all right. Thank you for caring about me. And don't cry Mewtwo. You're alive and life is wonderful - Amber2"
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So can you compare the two texts and see if they're using the same characters?
The words just translate to "Force" in Katakana so there ain't really much to say about character there. The Hyrule Historia states that the Light Force is a large amount of the life dwelling within beings, so it's not too unconvincing as a theory to say the Light Force, Life Force and Force Gems are the same. Along with the stuff I've written above though, it was also stated by Ezlo that the Light Force (at least in the Japanese version) is an "infinite" amount of "magic". The "Force" that the Ocean King spoke about seems to be a "natural energy of sorts" rather than something mystical. It was also stated by Vaati (in the Japanese version) that he didn't take "enough" of the Light Force but had the amount to oppose his enemies. I would say that it's not definitely intended, but was (perhaps slightly) hinted to be so. I wouldn't classify all three of it as the same though, since it would really create plot holes.--Zakitaro (talk) 06:09, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
Aquamentus (Oracle of Seasons)
Oni Dark Link – "Empty spaces - what are we living for? Abandoned places - I guess we know the score. On and on! Does anybody know what we are looking for? Another hero - another mindless crime. Behind the curtain, in the pantomime. Hold the line! Does anybody want to take it anymore? The Show must go on! The Show must go on! Inside my heart is breaking, My make-up may be flaking, But my smile, still, stays on!"
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Yeah, if both are referred to as just the Force originally then that's too vague a statement to officially link them. Best leave it as it is then and keep it regulated to the theory sections. Though I do think we should mention Phantom Hour Glass's Life Force is the Light Force in the original text and also reword it so it's not referring to it as The Light Force when the game clearly shows it is something not unique to her.

I agree with you there. The Light Force is a unique (apparently limitless) magic power that the Minish gave to the Royal Family (with it apparently only usable by females members as stated in text) which is the reason for Zelda's natural magical powers, while the Life Force is an energy that dwells within living beings (with Tetra having a potent amount) that can be used for mystical purposes. The Force Gems itself actually seems to be a common thing (in some of the games) as a lot of people have it.--Zakitaro (talk) 13:13, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

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