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I think that was improper grammar. It would have been fine if it had said "Located in the Ocean Realm, the Pirate Hideout...". The sentence was "Located in the Ocean Realm, Link...". Since Link is the subject of the sentence, that sentence's actual meaning is that Link is located in the Ocean Realm, which I don't think was the intended meaning. -Isdrakthül 16:44, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "You want the key, and I want you dead, so we can make this work"--Stalfos (The Legend of Neil)
TALK
Its not wrong. You are under the impression that the word after the comma needs to be the subject when it doesn't. It would be the same thing if you flipped it to say "the area is entered by Link when...". If you want to relate the subject to the verb, change it to my suggestion. Put "the Pirates Hideout is accessed by Link when..."
Gyorg (Majora's Mask)
Isdrakthül – "Lost souls wander where they don't belong.
Bring them rest with the Sun's Song."

TALK Code page 850 - Zelda Game the First - Reviews
Isn't the subject of a sentence the noun that's doing or being something? In this sentence, Link is gaining access, therefore he is the subject.
General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "You want the key, and I want you dead, so we can make this work"--Stalfos (The Legend of Neil)
TALK
That is like a 3rd grade grammar rule. Its similar to commas splitting the last two words in lists. Because Link is performing the action you figure it has to be the sole subject. But what about the area that is gained access to? Sentence structure is a lot more complex that you think. Like I said, if this annoys you that much, switch it to my suggestion. It may prevent any more debate over this in the future.
Gyorg (Majora's Mask)
Isdrakthül – "Lost souls wander where they don't belong.
Bring them rest with the Sun's Song."

TALK Code page 850 - Zelda Game the First - Reviews
The area that's gained access to is the object.
General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."--Abraham Lincoln
TALK
Ok, this is getting annoying. If you put this "Located in the Ocean Realm, the Pirate Hideout is accessed by Link" do you think that would be better? You said it would, but it is the same thing.
Gyorg (Majora's Mask)
Isdrakthül – "Hello. I'd like a Happy Meal and some crack."
TALK Code page 850 - Zelda Game the First - Reviews
It has the same intended meaning, but the subject is different. Two sentences intended to mean the same thing aren't necessarily identical in every aspect of structure.
General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly."--Robert F. Kennedy
TALK
Well "is" is the primary verb here so that wasn't the best example anyway. But which is the object?
General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "You want the key, and I want you dead, so we can make this work"--Stalfos (The Legend of Neil)
TALK
If you are going to respond, do it now so I can go lift. If you're not, just change the sentence to the alternate form so we don't have to discuss various types of grammar all day.

Edit: Don't respond. I went ahead and did it because I don't have all day to wait for you and this way we no longer have to discuss this anymore. It was fun while it lasted, but technically you are correct and I don't really care. Subjective grammar isn't really needed on a wiki anyway. This isn't a novel.

Gyorg (Majora's Mask)
Isdrakthül – "He wasn't right in the head."
TALK Code page 850 - Zelda Game the First - Reviews
Sorry for not responding. I was out at breakfast with my family.
General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."--Earl Wilson
TALK
Sounds fun. It doesn't matter anyway because this new way sounds better than both previous ways anyway. All in all, I was arguing just for the sake of arguing. There was no point in it and I by no means am always right. After just taking a two semester long college writing course, I fully know the difference between technicality and subjectivity in writing. But in this case proper grammar rules should apply. So you were right and this was pointless and boring. On that note, it should be known that anything we put will surely make more sense than the Old Man.

I scored 3050 points and got the quiver. 137.224.227.57 10:04, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

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