It's the final form it takes. It's never mentioned in the game, but I'm sure I saw something on the official manual or something. I lost that ages ago though...
we already have a detl page. what about a nightmare page for all the bosses in htis game. there all called nightmares arent they? OniDark Link 19:52, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
This might be just me, but I'm pretty sure I remember seeing somewhere (an older incarnation of zelda.com or Nintendo Power, maybe) that Link's Awakening's final boss was collectively called "Shadow of Nightmares"...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs)
Neither of those would be viable sources, I reckon. --AuronKaizer! 16:21, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
Xykeb Zraliv– 7. And the Prince said “Now I grant you one-third of the power that is mine so that, whatever is to come, your Body shall dwell forever in this house, and your Mind shall forever be this house, and so shall this house be your Mind. All is in readiness now for the Bridge.” TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
I have a question. What happens if you approach this fight without first buying the bow? Or do you need the bow to complete the other dungeons (I don't really remember that detail)?
I think you can use the hookshot or the boomerang to damage the final form as well. I always buy the bow so I've never really tried it I guess...by the way, I'm pretty sure you need the bow to complete at least the eigth dungeon. You need to shoot an arrow into the eye of a statue there, so I suppose you have to buy the bow to complete the game either way.
Generally with game antagonists we have two pages. One for the character and one for the boss battle. Should the same be done here?
Perhaps. But he isn't that much of a character though OniDark Link 18:11, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
EveryDayJoe45– "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."--Abraham Lincoln TALK
He's enough seeing as hes behind the entire story.
I'm sure no one would object I'm just saying not much is really said about him as a character. He just turns up at the end of the game as the final boss and has as much dialogue as any of the other bosses. The page might look a little forced but if you can do it then go head OniDark Link 18:24, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
EveryDayJoe45– "You want the key, and I want you dead, so we can make this work"--Stalfos (The Legend of Neil) TALK
I don't understand how would an antagonist of a game who is the whole reason behind Link's quest would be "forced"? And before we even think about doing this, we have to figure out the name. Where does Dethl come from first off? And second, should the pages be "Nightmare"/"Nightmare (boss)" or something else?
Minish Link– "Through crimson stars and silent stars and tumbling nebulas like oceans set on fire, through empires of glass and civilizations of pure thought, and a whole, terrible, wonderful universe of impossibilities. You see these eyes? They're old eyes... and one thing I can tell you [...] monsters are real." TALK– SANDBOX — EDIT
I think that the pages should be "Nightmare"/"Nightmare (Boss)", yeah. Uh, I understand what Oni's trying to say. Dethl only appears in the final boss room, right? It only appears in one scene of the whole game, if I'm correct which I may not be, so I could see how it could be forced.
EveryDayJoe45– "It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."--Abraham Lincoln TALK
Gotcha. Well I guess we should merge Malladus all into one article.
I'm not sure he is the whole one behind it either. I'm not sure if the DX version is different but the version I played seems to imply that all the bosses are behind it together. Which brings me back to the point I made above that maybe Nightmares should be a group or at least mention the other nightmares somewhere on the page OniDark Link 18:52, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
This was brought up on my talk page, but since the original poster was too slow to bring it up I'll do it instead to prevent another discussion from being dead in the water. Apparently, the name is not "Dethl" but "DethI" (I rather than L; these two characters are nearly identical in the default font used for articles). --AuronKaizer! 23:24, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
The only internet source I can find for DethI over Dethl is our NIWA counterpart (which I realize is not reliable), and even they seem unsure. They claim the font clarification comes from the Nintendo's Player Guide. Be nice if someone from this wiki could check that as well. -- 1337star(Drop me a line!) 00:13, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
Obviously it's I and not L, since it's a pun on "Death Eye" (eye, I), and the Japanese name does bring the hint. It's a simple mistake that got us all for a long time. Yatanogarasu (Talk) 00:55, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
From whence does the name Nightmare come from, anyway? If anything, the game calls this/these creature(s) "the Nightmares", but it could also be argued that this refers to all the game's bosses collectively. To analyse some game quotes:
"You've got the Nightmare's Key! Now you can open the door to the Nightmare's Lair!"
Doesn't have to do with this/these enemy/enemies specifically, but just a quote to show that "Nightmare" is a term used by the game in place of "boss". The item get text for the Compass uses similar wording.
"We were born of nightmares... To take over this world, we made the Wind Fish sleep endlessly!"
Again, has little to do with this/these creature(s) actual name, but just a sampling of its dialogue to show that it refers to itself as a collective group, rather than a single creature (as the article at present implies it is).
"...Link, you have beaten all the Nightmares! Climb the stairs before you!"
This appears after defeating "Nightmare". Taken at face value, it refers specifically to the boss(es) you just fought, but it could also be taken to mean "Link, you have beaten all the bosses [in the game]!".
"Hoot! Young lad, I mean... Link, the hero! You have defeated the Nightmares! [...] As part of the Wind Fish's spirit, I am the guardian of his dream world... But one day, the Nightmares entered the dream and began wreaking havoc."
The last reference to "the Nightmares" in the game, and it's equally vague. Again, it can be taken to refer to the end boss(es) specifically, or the group of game bosses as a whole group. The last sentence rather implies the later interpretation to me.
So, again, where does "Nightmare" in the singular come from? -- 1337star(Drop me a line!) 22:16, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
As I suggest above making a group page for Nightmare might not be a bad idea OniDark Link 22:34, December 29, 2012 (UTC)