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Link Artwork 4 (The Minish Cap)
Aeronflux It's my timey-wimey detector. Goes ding when there's stuff. - The Doctor
TALK – EMERGENCY TEMPORAL SHIFT!
Is that Tatl quote at the bottom right? Dinalfos is spelled wrong... or differently, at least, but I don't wanna tread on accuracy if it was spelled that way in the game...
GasMaskPsychoHatGuy
AuronKaizer - "All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these?! Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
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Could be an error, but could easily be a "different creature altogether". Guess we'll never know...unless someone checks if the japanese versions have them by the same name.

Name

GasMaskPsychoHatGuy
AuronKaizer - "We could have been anything that we wanted to be... but don't it make your heart glad that we decided (a fact we take pride in) we became the best at being bad!"
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Hmm, Ocarina of Time refers to these creatures as "Dinolfos" while Majora's Mask refers to them as "Dinafols". Which name do we use? I opt for the first one, as localization of the creature name was a bit dodgy in Majora's Mask and it has a typo.
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Dinomino21 – Chaos, is the true form of everything
TALK – 13:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I, Dinomino21, like the Dinolfos which is why it my picture for the word bubble thing. AuronKaizer, I know you. Your from Final Fantasy wiki are'nt you. Wondering how I know? My friend Armageddon11(DANIELSJ14) said to me that he saw one of your pages on FF wiki and he said to me 'is'nt he on Zeldapedia as well?'
GasMaskPsychoHatGuy
AuronKaizer - "These are the things that make me nauseous: gloppy, green goop that grows on faucets; blue hair that grows on slices of bread; when your big old dog drools in your bed; when a dirty sock drops on your face (pee-eww!); when your best friend's sister begins to spew; half a worm in the apple you bit; finding a human bone in your jello; blowing nose slime green and yellow; and people who eat creamed corn with their mouths open so you can see it. The end."
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Yep, that'd be me. Of course, I assume the role of "bad guy" on the FFWiki for obvious reasons. Can't say I recognize the name of your friend, though.
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Dinomino21 – Chaos, is the true form of everything
TALK – 13:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, you don't recognize him? He's in a fanfic on FF wiki and he's always talking about it. Are you on it? He says he thinks you're on it. it's the one where people are making their own characters and making stories about their characters. His one says I got kidnapped (even though I'm not on that wiki) and nearly died trying to save me.
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Dinomino21 – Chaos, is the true form of everything
TALK – 13:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
He also now has a talk page on this wiki that him and I both don't know how came into existance. He never wanted to change this wiki but it just appeared. i think you've already edited it.

Dy/ina/olfos

Tetra
Lisa URAQT – “And here I have 1000 monkeys typing at a 1000 typewriters...soon they will have written the best novel known to man.... ‘It was the best of times, it was the BLURST of times’?? You stupid monkey!” --Mr. Burns, the Simpsons
TALK QUOTESJOURNALSANDBOXDRAGON — 21:12, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Just to point something out, the Dynalfos and Dinolfos articles seem kind of inconsistent. The same image is being used in both articles' infoboxes. This article says they're "sometimes referred to as Dinafols or Dynalfos", and the Dynalfos article says "They may also be related to the similarly-named Dinolfos, stronger Lizalfos in Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask." This article implies that they're the same thing, but the Dynalfos article implies that they're not. (I'm posting this same comment on the Dynalfos talk page, too) Any thoughts?


Merge with Dynalfos?
 
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The poll was created at 18:04 on July 30, 2009, and so far 7 people voted.

We will settle it like this.--Shade Link (talk) 22:04, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Hate to be a party pooper Shade Link, but we're discussing more in-depth here. Polls just don't work that well; people need reasoning. Baltro [ talk · edits ] 22:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Notice! After probably confusing many by posting my comment on three different talk pages, this being one of them, I put the issue into a forum here. I think if everyone puts their comments into the forum rather than having three seperate debates in three different talk pages, it will be a lot simpler. Lisa URAQT Tetra 22:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Moved content from "Dynalfos" talk page

Skull Kid Artwork (Majora's Mask)
Xykeb Zraliv – 2. And the Cunning Thief wept aloud, “Why have I been made a part of this great evil? To have murdered with my hands, and to be made glad of mindless destruction through my own eyes? I curse this house!”
TALK – it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
Actually, I tried the Mortal Draw once and it didn't work.....
GasMaskPsychoHatGuy
AuronKaizer - "It's my belief pride is the chief cause in the decline in the number of husbands and wives."
TALK - THE LIST - GAMES - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WALRUS GUMBOOT
The success rate is very on/off. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't...


Samus Suit
Metroidhunter32 – I have created a tournament of heroes.
TALK – Vote upon it.
if you draw at the exact right instant it will work but with the speed of their attacks you basicaly have to know exactly when their going to attack.


180px-SSBBSpearPillarDialga
Diachronos – So... To become the Hero of Time, we need to go to the Temple of Time, to play the Song of Time, on the Ocarina of Time, in front of the Door of Time, so we can pull the Sword of Time, out of the Pedestal of Time...
TALK TWILIGHT PRINCESS WALKTHROUGH - MY ZELDA GAME
Hit him with a Shield Attack then immediately use the Mortal Draw after it; works like a charm for me.
General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest."--Muhammad Ali
TALK
I think we should merge this with Dinolfos. Sure they are spelled differentally, but I believe they are implied to be the same enemies. Also many enemies are spelled differentally from time to time, but still remain on the same page. Some examples of this are Wizzrobe/Wizrobe, Wallmaster/Wall Master, etc. Who agrees with me?
Bongo Bongo Artwork
Moblin slayer – Marching forward hypocritic and hypnotic computers, you depend on our protection, yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth!
TALK Yeah...
I agree.

Name

Okay, so they've been merged. I don't necessarily agree, but if that's the consensus I can respect that. However, I must protest the use of "Dinolfos" as the main page. We don't use "Gannon" over "Ganon", after all. Or Wizrobe. Ghoma. Octorock. As the series evolves and continues, names often change, and we consistently use the most recent form of the name at this wiki, as with most wikis. To my knowledge, Dinolfos is the very oldest of the three names. Precedent and logic both dicate that we should title this page Dynalfos. Especially since the main image on the page, as with Link and Ganondorf, draws from Twilight Princess. When even the infobox shows and names the Dynalfos over the Dinolfos, that's saying something. Unfortunately, redirect-overwrite code prevents me from fixing this error myself, never mind that I'm sure some people will protest (I can already taste the "OoT was a better game so we should use its names" arguments...). Dazuro (talk) 01:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

It really doesn't matter, they're all redirected here.—Triforce 14Triforce4 01:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
So what? The article title and content should reflect the current name. Otherwise we might as well go around changing Zoras to Zolas all over the place. We can't just conveniently stop updating things for one page and stay consistent for everything else. Dazuro (talk) 01:29, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Difference is there is no variation in pronunciation.—Triforce 14Triforce4 01:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


Skull Kid Artwork (Majora's Mask)
Xykeb Zraliv – 6. “But I will do this for you, O Arrogant Man. For all the bigness of your head, you are still small enough to be spared the rigours of the dark ocean, and I shall rescue you from the darkness in the land of Technology, and you shall live in my household, and here you will learn humility.”
TALK – it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
Ok, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the policy is to use the most common use, and if there isn't one, we use the original name. Since there is no "most common name", the original name is used here.

Triforce: Ditto Gannon, Ghoma, Octorock (and Zola in Japanese). If you're too lazy to do it, say so, don't make up excuses. This page needs to be renamed according to precedent and policy. That's it. XZ: Why would we default to the original? Obviously we would default to the most recent, i.e. the one most currently endorsed by Nintendo, like every other game wiki I've seen. Dazuro (talk) 01:54, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

What XZ said. Dude I'm not being lazy. Each new Zelda game released doesn't replace the older ones, it adds to the series. Also take into consideration, your policy isn't necessarily this wiki's policy.—Triforce 14Triforce4 01:57, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

My policy is completely irrelevant, as you rightfully point out. However, again, precedent dictates we use the most recent names. So much for my friend's assurance that the admins here were competent... what IS it with Nintendo Wikias having hypocrites in charge? Dazuro (talk) 02:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Why hello again. Just thought I'd pop in to note.. do these creatures not appear in Link's Crossbow Training? Serious question. Because they seem to in screenshots I've seen, but I've not played the game and it's unclear whether the screen shows a Dynalfos or a Lizalfos. If they do, however, then they would obviously use the TP name, and bingo, we have a most-commonly-used name. Otherwise, well.. my previous point stands, but I digress. Dazuro (talk) 02:04, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

What IS it with this recent wave of criticism? Now I suggest you stop questioning my or any other admin's competence. On a more relevant note, if that were the case with Link's Crossbow Training, yes that would be reason to change it. Can't remember off the top of my head though.—Triforce 14Triforce4 02:06, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong. I'd love it if I didn't have to question it. But when you say "it doesn't need to be changed because it's pronounced the same" followed by "if it's in two games we'll change it"... interesting. It'd still be pronounced the same in LCBT. But even beyond that, it shows that you are open to the concept of correcting it to the modern name, which is baffling considering you refused to do so just a minute ago, for a completely frivolous reason. But that's hardly the point. The point is, we're being inconsistant right now. We use the proper modern names for about twenty other creatures, and the outdated three-games-old N64-era name for one. That just don't seem right, mon. You've yet to address that point, simply saying "we don't need to change it." But I have a feeling I'd be met with heavy resistance if I changed the articles to say Gannon instead of Ganon. Hey, it's pronounced the same! Don't get me wrong. I'm not here trying to pick a fight, but your stubborn and inexplicable refusal to correct an error makes that a bit difficult. Dazuro (talk) 02:10, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


Skull Kid Artwork (Majora's Mask)
Xykeb Zraliv – 4. And the Guide who was the Cunning Thief gathered together his Thief-Wife and Thief-Son, and in the house that was the Mind of the Bridgekeeper, they called to their host.
TALK – it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
Not necessarily. Not only is Link's Crossbow Training a spinoff, it's based off of Twilight Princess, and therefore would obviously use the name simply because that's what it was called in that game. Also, if you don't like the admins here, you don't have to be here. Why not go over to Zeldawiki? That's what seems to be the trend now.

Ugh, I give up. You're relentless.—Triforce 14Triforce4 02:18, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I have to intervene. Dazuro, calm down. This isn't Chozoboy and I have seen those fights you got into with him. The Admins here will not take as much as he did. I agree that the name should stay as is.(Darknut15 (talk) 02:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC))

Phantom Hourglass was heavily based off Wind Waker. Four Swords Adventure was heavily based off Four Swords. And did Majora's Mask have a single original character who wasn't designed after one from OoT? LCT is more heavily spinoff than the others, but we can't just ignore its existence. And even beyond that, you're still conveniently avoiding the fact that Zeldapedia uses the most recent names in every other instance of multiple-named creatures. Except, of course, this one. Because they're special, I'm sure. I don't know why, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that there's some mystical reason to keep this one inconsistant with the rest of the wiki. Darknut, this is completely different. CB was actively attacking my person. These guys are just refusing to fix an inconsistancy. Don't worry, I know my limits. I'm fairly new here, don't have a reputation yet, and have no interest in blowing my chances of being able to be a regular contributor here as with so many other wikias. However, again, this page needs to be renamed, and for some reason the admins are refusing to do that. Being an administrator does not prevent you from making mistakes or being wrong, and in this case, precedent states that they are wrong. Dazuro (talk) 02:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess it really doesn't matter. If you really feel it needs changed, go ahead, but you'll have to change all the redirect links.—Triforce 14Triforce4 02:45, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

General Onox
EveryDayJoe45 – "Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried"--Winston Churchill
TALK
Ok if you keep up this attitude, someone is going to get tired of it and your undoubtedly going to get a block. I'd recommend chilling out. You are outnumbered please take it easy and don't start attacking people.
Tetra
Lisa URAQT – "NOOOOO! NOT AGAIN! AGGH!" --Young Link from The Legend of Zelda Abridged Series on YouTube by Adamwestslapdog
TALK QUOTESJOURNALSANDBOXDRAGON — 03:12, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Dazuro, there's a difference between Phantom Hourglass being "heavily based off Wind Waker" (and the other examples you gave) and Crossbow Training being based off of Twilight Princess. While Phantom Hourglass, Four Swords Adventures, and Majora's Mask are very similar to the respective games that came before them, they are part of the main series, unlike Link's Crossbow Training, which is non-canon. Just saying.


Skull Kid Artwork (Majora's Mask)
Xykeb Zraliv – 1. The fifth Man who desired judgment was the Child, whose father held in his possession the carving of the Slave. The Prince came to him and was at once rightly pleased with what he found, for the house of the Child and his father already knew well the name of the King.
TALK – it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
While they are clearly direct sequels, those games are not based on the games coming before them, since they don't take place in the exact same world with the exact same enemies like LCT. On top of that, they are all main games in the series and not spinoffs. As a side note, yes, Majora's Mask had many original characters: Tingle, Kafei, Goron Elder, Goron Elder's son, debatably Darmani (some people think that he's based off of Darunia, but I don't buy that), every member of the Indigo-Gos except Lulu, Deku Butler, Deku Princess, Deku King....and many more. Yes, there are much more characters based off of Ocarina of Time characters than not, but there are still plenty of originals. And I addressed that point: we only use the original name if there is no most common name. If you can think of at least two or three instances where there are two names with the same usage where the most recent use is used, maybe we'll consider doing something about this. That crosses out Ghoma, Octorock, Gannon, Wizrobe, and Zola (which again doesn't count since that was just a translation error involving the "r" and "l" being the same in Japanese), since those all have much more commonly used names.

Dinolfos Fighting Technique - My Personal Tactic for Woodfall Temple

After making a few mistakes, I got myself trapped in the Woodfall Temple against this guy with only 1 quart a heart left over. After defending against it looking for a fullproof attack with no risk for a few minutes, I started to rummage through my inventory to see if I'd got anything useful. Deku-nuts are actually perfect for dealing with these enemies no matter where they are - their main ability is dodging everything you throw at them, so throw a Deku-nut at them - they get frozen and you can Z-target and press A to do a double-damage attack or instead use some mana in a spin-attack at it. Just make sure you've got nuts.

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