DUDE. THIS GUY LOOKS AWESOME. I'm so glad they didn't put Ganondorf again. --⽩㤖㒾 - 04:48, December 2, 2009 (UTC), your man of the world. (plus he's left handed) but this talk pages about the article if yiou want to start a forum about the new characters you can Oni Dark Link 15:10, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

XD. I suppose so. Well I think the Etymology is a tad far-stretched and we don't know enough about the game to say it yet.

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What sword??? He attacks with his hand, not a sword.


apperently he' called staven in the european version. that diesnt useually happen i wonder why they changed it. byrne is a better name in my opinion Oni Dark Link 17:47, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

I actually prefer a name that isn't based around being another obvious pun on something related to railroad travel. --AuronKaizer! 23:44, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

but byrne is coole (bad pun), it probably is aswell but a more obscure one. its strange that they would change a central characters name like that they dojnt useually do it when it comes to zelda. Oni Dark Link 23:49, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

seen this on wikipedia but its one of their biggest stubs and i dont think the place has anything to do with trains. Oni Dark Link 14:46, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Check out Byrne on wikipedia. Seventh most common surname in Ireland, and a ton of famous people listed with the name. No wonder they changed it. --Kanhir (talk) 17:19, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


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Xykeb Zraliv – 3. “But through ill deeds and unpious living, the Aspects become tarnished, and with this tarnish my name shall never be known, and the trinity will be cast forever into the dark ocean between our lands.
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Should be apparent by the spoiler warning, but this reveals stuff that happens at the end of the game.

Anyways, in the end, Byrne gets killed by Malladus, and Anjean says stuff about how the spirit is persistent, and years from now he will be reincarnated (well, she technically says "return in another form", but I assume that's what she meant). Then she says something interesting "You see, as Lokomos...We weren't only meant to protect the Spirit Tracks. We were also meant to watch over mankind." Now, this could be an abrupt subject change, but could it also mean that Byrne is a Lokomo?

Oh yeah, and apart from that it also confirms that Lokomos is the correct plural form of Lokomo.

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Sounds to me like Anjean indirectly said Byrne is a Lokomo. No question about it.
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If that is the jist of what she says, then I agree, no question about it.

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His name does fit the pattern, but why does he look so different from all the other Lokomo encountered in game. Zephyr Blade (talk) 01:13, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

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Xykeb Zraliv – 2. And as the Prince watched, the Child was thrown down by his father and broken with the wood of the Prince’s Soul, but as the Child’s Body, Mind and Soul began to drift apart, the Prince held them together, and he said
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Well, at the end of the game we see Anjean floating up in the air without her wheels, and she has legs. Could be that those serve as advanced "wheelchairs" in a manner of speaking, for the elderly Lokomos.
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Aside from the outlier of Byrne, maybe all the Lokomos are so old that they have lost the ability to walk. Or it's some weird inbred thing.

Diachronos – "If Opposite Day truly did exist, then wouldn't that day be the opposite of itself, and be not Opposite Day anyway?" - Gaary, Unforgotten Realms
Given everything that the game says about him, I think it's safe to assume that he is a Lokomo. Although his height and eyes might suggest otherwise...

Before you ask what I mean about his eyes, take a good look at his, then the eyes of Zelda's body when Malladus is possessing her body. They're eerily similar.

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Maybe a corrupted Lokomo?
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He's just loco, Moe.

Is there enough evidence to add him to the list of Lokomos at this point? Zephyr Blade (talk) 02:16, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

im too slow i was going to bring this up but its already here. i think she says we dont really die before she says he will return which is bigger proof to me, plus he's shone in the same spirit form as the rest of the lokomos when they leave. has anyone found a spirit track text dump yet? it'd be really usefull to have one around. Oni Dark Link 16:38, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

AuronKaizer - "On the Eighth Day, God created Mankind. Why was he having such a bad day?!? Why did he create all of you normal, and forget so many important parts of me? He made the teeth that I swallowed... the ear that was ripped from my skull! A face that no longer exists! Deep inside, you are merely a mirror image of all my atrocities! The ugliness that exists outside lives inside everyone of you! Destruction... CAN BE BEAUTIFUL!"
So it would seem. What's weird though, even though this is a "European" text dump, it doesn't use the reported European names.

Diachronos – "If Opposite Day truly did exist, then wouldn't that day be the opposite of itself, and be not Opposite Day anyway?" - Gaary, Unforgotten Realms
Another thing I remembered. When Byrne was fighting Alfonzo, he said that Alfonzo's "only human". I know that Humans and Hylians (Byrne looks kinda like a Hylian) are separate races, but a lot of other races tend to lump Humans and Hylians together and call them all "Human".

Not very strong evidence, but it does sorta imply that Byrne's not a Hylian or Human.

and the fact that he's lived over a hundred years Oni Dark Link 19:36, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Someone put up his race as Lokomo and I linked it is that ok? Zephyr Blade (talk) 23:43, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

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In case anyone has any more doubts about him being a Lokomo here is the ingame text refering to him as one.

Besides, our kind are the servants of the spirits. We don't disappear that easily.

What do you mean?

The spirit is persistent, my dear. Byrne may not have any memory of these events, but years from now, he'll return in a new form.

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My NA instruction manual calls him a "descendant of a divine race".

I know this is an old chat and Byrne is practically confirmed to be a Lokomo, but I have another point. If you look just above can see the top of his nose. It is similar to the rest of the Lokomo's noses, and it says that thin, sharp noses are a common gene of the Lokomo race.--Ghost Zelda Spirit Zelda: Help! Malladus stole my body! 21:58, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


I feel like mentioning his theme song somewhere. I know its not always the done thing but it is a great song and not many themes are remixed twice in the one game. Oni Dark Link 19:11, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Shekiah resemblence?

It never says this in the game, but Byrne looks a lot like a Shekiah!! His body structure, his hair his eyes, and the cloth on his mouth makes it seem like it! Should there be a theory in the article about this, --Wind Mage Master 17:54, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's merely a coincidence. If the creators of the game meant for him to resemble a Shiekah, they would have put the Shiekah eye somewhere on his clothing. Plus, he is a Lokomo, something completely different. J-man Zelda Fan 17:57, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
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I don't see how his body structure is particularly Sheikah-like. Ditto for the hair. His eyes are gold, not red. The cloth means nothing in terms of race. Besides, he's a Lokomo.

There was red below his eyes. If someone told me he was a sheikiah I would believe them! He seems to resemble one but without the eye symbol on him. I knew he was a lokomo but... I don't know, I just thought he looked like one. --Wind Mage Master 18:07, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Red-rimmed eyes do not equal red eyes.
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Nor do they equal Shekiah.


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I don't know what to make of the Etymology for the European name. The railroad stave thing seems most likely, but searching the actual term turned up nothing. The other ones seem a bit far-fetched, though.


I may sound weird when I say this, but I really don't like the current quote. It just doesn't grant Byrne the image that a lot of people remember him by... 04:16, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

If you're talking about what Byrne is like at the end of the game, using a quote that reflected that change would be a pretty big spoiler. Since we like to warn readers about sections with spoilers, something that goes at the very top of the page should not contain spoilers. Jedimasterlink (talk) 04:59, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
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