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| + | I just want to know, aren't the Fused Shadow the power of the interlopers that tried to enter the Sacred Realm, and not the Spirits of Light? |
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| + | : I was sure that it was the power of the dark magic that the interlopers used. They were stripped of the magic and sealed in their own realm. --[[User:Jason|Jase]] 14:28, 4 December 2006 (CST) |
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| + | :: Confirmed that it was the ancient interlopers' power. It reiterates it enough times at the end of the game. --[[User:Jason|Jase]] 16:05, 10 December 2006 (CST) |
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| − | |caption = The fortress as viewed from a distance |
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| + | I thought that it was a helmate cause it goes all the way around the head [[User:zanramon]] |
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| − | |location = Forsaken Fortress |
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| + | :::The Twilight Realm isn't where the Twili originated from. They were banished to that realm by the Gods. The part about Majora's Mask being created by the Twili is stated very matter-of-factly, and there is no evidence of this. It can merely be noted that the eyes of Majora's Mask and the eye of the Fused Shadow are simillar. I'm going to make some changes. --[[User:Farewell to Gibdos|Farewell to Gibdos]] 18:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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| + | Really why do so many people think it's so similar to Majora's Mask, the only thing in common is one single eyeball? I'd delete it altogether but it'd just keep popping up like it does on forums.[[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 02:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | |item = [[Sword]]{{exp|First time}}<br>[[Hammer#Skull Hammer|Skull Hammer]]{{exp|Second time}}<br>[[Heart Container#Piece of Heart|Piece of Heart]]{{exp|Anytime}} |
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| − | |mini-boss = [[Bokoblin]]{{exp|First time}}<br>[[Phantom Ganon]]{{exp|Second time}} |
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| − | |boss = [[Helmaroc King]]{{exp|Second time}} |
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| − | |quest = [[Aryll]], [[Maggie]] and [[Mila]] rescued{{exp|Second time}}<br>[[Heart Container]]{{exp|Second time}} |
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| − | |theme music = [[File:Forsaken Fortress.ogg|noicon]] |
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| − | |element= <!-- Before adding, changing, or removing dungeon elements, please see the guidelines detailed on the template's page, located here: http://zeldawiki.org/Template:Element --> {{Element|Shadow}} |
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| − | '''Forsaken Fortress''' is the first dungeon [[Link]] visits in {{TWW}}. It's an ominous island, and most people tend to avoid it.<ref>{{cite|Even if I were to consider it... Lately, I've heard nothing but evil rumors about this Forsaken Fortress...|Tetra|Wind Waker}}</ref> The stone fortress is well-guarded with cannons, searchlights, and hordes of [[Miniblin]]s, [[Bokoblin]]s, and [[Moblin]]s, who patrol and attack any would-be invaders.<ref>{{cite|Listen up, Link... There's a monster running the searchlight up there! If you can slay the monster, then just maybe it'll shut the searchlight down.|Tetra|Wind Waker}}</ref> The [[Helmaroc King]] has made his home on the Forsaken Fortress as Ganondorf's servant.<ref>{{cite|The Monstrous Helmaroc King. Habitat: Forsaken Fortress. Master: Ganondorf.|Helmaroc King Figurine|Wind Waker}}</ref> It was also the place where [[Link]]'s sister, [[Aryll]], was held prisoner, along with [[Mila]] and [[Maggie]].<ref>{{cite|I may as well tell you that the bird that kidnapped both you and Link's sister has made its foul nest to the north, on the heights of the Forsaken Fortress.|Quill|Wind Waker}}</ref><ref>{{cite|I...was once the richest little debutante in this town. Did you know that? But one day, a monstrous bird came and took me away to a terrible place called the Forsaken Fortress, where I was locked up and held captive. Oh, it was awful!|Mila|Wind Waker}}</ref><ref>{{cite|Ooh, hoo hoo! My sweet, sweet daughter! My only daughter! Poor Maggie... She was captured by a bunch of villains and taken to the Forsaken Fortress!|Maggie's Father|Wind Waker}}</ref> |
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| + | :Nintendo likes to reuse elements in their games to create a sense of familiarity. Because of this , many people think that if something is similar to something else, that they are automatically connected. Some people. Jeez. When will they grow some common sense?--[[User:Matt|Matt]] 03:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | Tetra briefly mentions to Link that the fortress previously belonged to another clan of pirates.<ref>{{cite|There are all sorts of strange rumors about this place. What I do know is that long ago, it used to be the hideout of a no-good group of pirates we used to compete with...But they were just small-time. Now, the place looks like it's pretty dangerous.|Tetra|The Wind Waker}}</ref> This may refer to the [[Gerudo]] tribe, and would make the Forsaken Fortress the [[Great Sea]] version of the [[Gerudo Fortress]]. Additionally, the [[Eye Symbol|eye and teardrop symbol]] of the [[Sheikah]] tribe can be seen on the ship perched atop the Fortress. |
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| + | I think majora's mask was created by the dark interlopers. It fits the fused shadows and majora's mask have similar powers, not to mention that the are both able to corrupt people. --[[user:olallaboy]] |
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| − | ==Entrance to the Fortress== |
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| − | The dungeon is located in the far northwest quadrant of the [[Great Sea]], and it is where [[Ganon]]dorf has constructed his temporary lair by using a portal from Hyrule under the sea.<ref>{{cite|I see... So this is the portal through which Ganon was able to seep into the unsuspecting world above...|King of Red Lions|Wind Waker}}</ref> Link is taken there by [[Tetra]] and her pirate crew,<ref>{{cite|I'll call you when we reach the Forsaken Fortress, so until then, just go talk to Niko and do whatever he tells you.|Tetra|Wind Waker}}</ref><ref>{{cite|Even if I were to consider it... Lately, I've heard nothing but evil rumors about this Forsaken Fortress... Tell you what. If you come back with something like that, we'll let you stow away on our ship.|Tetra|Wind Waker}}</ref> but he has to visit the place alone with the [[King of Red Lions]] later on. |
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| + | Actually, I have a theory: The Dark Interlopers/Twili have a Terminian counterpart like everyone else, and that Majora's Mask is the Terminian counterpart of the Fused Shadows. |
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| − | Whilst inhabited by Ganondorf and his minions, the fortress is held in perpetual night. If it is approached during the day, the sun will rapidly fall below the horizon. |
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| + | [[User:Debochira|Debochira]] 21:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | |{{Fishman|Forsaken Fortress|I hear there's a [[Maggie's Father|fellow]] on [[Windfall Island]] who's collecting [[Skull Necklace]]s! You know who it is, fry? I don't. Sorry. What I CAN tell you is that those [[Moblin|piggish monsters]] you see here in the Forsaken Fortress seem to carry those Skull Necklaces around all the time. Not that I think it's easy work stealing anything from the likes of those guys. And that's all the info I've got for you, fry! You'd better be thankful for the clues you got from me! I'm serious!}} |
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| − | |{{Tingle|Forsaken Fortress|Are you near the Forsaken Fortress? That place is dreadful! Does the part of your face that hit that fortress still hurt?}} |
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| − | ==Themes and Navigation== |
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| − | [[File:Forsaken Fortress TWW.jpg|thumb|left|The inside of the fortress]] |
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| − | ===First Visit=== |
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| − | During his first visit, Link is catapulted to the fortress by [[Tetra]] and [[Tetra's Pirate Crew|her crew]]. Upon landing, he loses his sword and is left with only his shield to defend himself.<ref>{{cite|Your sword landed all the way up there? Shoot! I'm sorry! I apologize! I guess my aim was off by a little bit.|Tetra|Wind Waker}}</ref> In order to reach the room where Aryll is being held, he must travel to each tower and use [[Boko Stick]]s to defeat the [[Bokoblin]]s operating the searchlights.<ref>{{cite|Those searchlights are a real pain, huh? You're going to have to deal with them somehow, I'm afraid... If you can slay the monster, then just maybe it'll shut the searchlight down.|Tetra|Wind Waker}}</ref> He must also practice stealth while navigating the fortress, as there are [[Moblin]]s that patrol the fortress who will throw Link in the fortress jail if spotted. Thankfully, the dim-witted nature of the Moblins allows Link to navigate around without being seen by hiding under [[Barrel]]s. Once he is outside the room where Aryll is being held, he gets his sword back and fights a shielded Bokoblin. Before Link is able to save his sister and the other girls, the Helmaroc King swoops in, grabs Link with his beak, and brings him before Ganondorf. Ganondorf then tells the bird to discard him, ergo his rescue attempt failed and Link ends up unconscious in the [[Great Sea]]. |
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| + | not everybody has a terminian counterpart, Link, Ganondorf, the koriki, all the sages (except ruto), king zora, medigron, biggoron, all don't have counterparts. besides, the twilight realm is completely seperate from hyrule, as is termina so I doubt any of the twili have a terminian counterpart.[[User:onikage_666|onikage_666]] 12:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Second Visit=== |
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| + | :Eh, while you are right not everyone has a counterpart, Biggoron, Darunia and King Zora do have one. [[User:IfIHaveTo|IfIHaveTo]] 16:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | [[File:Miniblinattack.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Link beset by [[Miniblin]]s in the fortress]] |
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| − | After Link finds the [[Master Sword]], he pays a second visit to the Fortress, where he confronts [[Phantom Ganon]] to gain the [[Hammer#Skull Hammer|Skull Hammer]], then the Bokoblins who once more use the searchlights, and finally the dreaded [[Helmaroc King]] to rescue his sister and the girls from [[Windfall Island]], with the help of Tetra and the pirates.<ref>{{cite|Hmm... Well, never mind about that. For now, we'll just take these girls. I'm sure their fathers back in town will pay a handsome reward for their return. If you're worried about your sister...don't be. I promise I'll deliver her safely back to your little island.|Tetra|Wind Waker}}</ref> Although he succeeds in the rescue mission this time, he now fails to defeat Ganondorf because the blade of the evil's bane lost its power,<ref>{{cite|You cannot defeat me with a blade that does not sparkle with the power to repel evil! What you hold is useless. Go back to the world below, and tell that to the pathetic fools who made this blade! Its power is gone, and its edges are dull!|Ganondorf|Wind Waker}}</ref> and when Link removed it from its pedestal in [[Hyrule Castle]], he lifted the seal that prevented Ganondorf from taking control of Hyrule again;<ref>{{cite|Foolish child. While that sword is indeed the blade of evil's bane, at the same time, it has long played another role... You see, it is also a sort of key... a most wretched little key that has kept the seal on me and my magic intact! By withdrawing the blade, you have broken that seal...|Ganondorf|Wind Waker}}</ref> because of this, the Fortress is eventually abandoned and the enemies (Ganondorf included) now move to Hyrule.<ref>{{cite|Ganon has not shown himself above the seas since Valoo unleashed his fiery wrath upon him. And what's worse, there is not a creature stirring in his base of operations in this world...the Forsaken Fortress.|King of Red Lions|Wind Waker}}</ref> After Link clears the [[Wind Temple]], it's revealed that the Fortress is indeed uninhabited. |
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| + | oh yeah, king zora and biggoron both have counterpart but Darunia dosen't altough Darmani resembles him somewhat.[[User:onikage_666|onikage_666]] 13:00, 1 August 2009 (UCT) |
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| − | As Link has his sword during the second visit, he is able to defend himself and does not need to use stealth as in the first visit. Moblins will now simply attack him, instead of bringing him to the jail. Also, searchlights that are trained on Link will cause [[Bomb]]s to be fired at him and will also attract [[Miniblin]]s. |
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| + | == Imposing theories == |
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| − | ===Third Visit (optional)=== |
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| − | As Link explores the game's final dungeon, he can find a way to open the warp spot that Ganon and his followers used previously in the Fortress to use it as a shortcut to return to the [[Great Sea]]. Should Link return to the fortress after the second visit, he will find that it is no longer in endless night. |
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| + | I've been keeping this to myself for a long time, but I think that TP is not really relevant to the rest of the series. Any mysterious creatures are immediately associated with the Twili, though a few obvious clues show that TP completely contradicts the rest of the series. For example, the following do not appear in any other game: Twili, Oocco, Dominion Rod, City In The Sky, Fused Shadow, Ordona, Faron, Lanayru, Eldin. If these entities have had so much influence on the world, why haven't they recieved any credit outside of tp? I don't know, perhaps it's bad storytelling (Deux ex Machina?) rather than contradiction, but I think that Twilight princess exists on a league of its own. --[[User:Eponasowner|Stalkid]] 23:37, 11 August 2010 (EDT) |
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| − | Contrary to popular belief, if Link misses the [[Heart Container]] gained after defeating [[Helmaroc King]], he still can find it anytime in front of the main wooden gate, near the chest that guarded the Skull Hammer. |
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| − | {{Theory|start}} |
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| − | It is interesting to note that along with the other relative locations between some of the islands in ''The Wind Waker'' with some of the locations in ''Ocarina of Time'', that the Forsaken Fortress is located in the northwest, just as Gerudo Desert was in ''Ocarina of Time'' - both the "home bases" of Ganondorf. The fact that the fortress was inhabited by pirates before Ganondorf's arrival, and in knowing the Gerudo race were pirates themselves, Ganondorf himself leading a gang of thieves before the events of ''Ocarina of Time'', it only emphasizes the possibility that the Forsaken Fortress was the tallest portion of the Gerudo Fortress that survived the [[Golden Goddesses|Goddesses']] flood. |
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| − | {{Theory|end}} |
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| + | What does that last line in the theory section mean? There is no such thing as a "Majora Beast" for as far as I know. Should that part be removed or am I missing something here? [[User:Dekler|Dekler]] ([[User talk:Dekler|talk]]) 12:44, 11 September 2013 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Minor Enemies and Traps== |
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| − | File:Blue Bokoblin TWW.png|[[Bokoblin#The Wind Waker|Bokoblin]]s |
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| − | File:Floormaster.png|[[Floormaster]]s |
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| − | File:Green Bokoblin.png|[[Bokoblin#The Wind Waker|Green Bokoblin]]s |
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| − | File:Keese Figurine TWW.png|[[Keese]] |
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| − | File:Laser Moblin Head.png|[[Stone Statue|Laser-shooting Moblin statues]] |
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| − | File:Miniblin.png|[[Miniblin]]s |
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| − | File:Moblin Figurine.png|[[Moblin#The Wind Waker|Moblin]]s |
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| − | File:Octorok Figurine.png|[[Octorok]]s |
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| − | File:Rat Figurine.png|[[Rat]]s |
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| − | </gallery> |
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| + | :"Majora Beast" is presumably referring to the entity inside Majora's Mask, which takes on a beastly form when it is fought in ''Majora's Mask''. In particular, it is probably referring to this creature's final form, Majora's Wrath. [[User:Setras|Setras]] ([[User talk:Setras|talk]]) 14:09, 11 September 2013 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Trivia== |
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| − | [[File:Sheikah Eye TWW.png|right|40px]] |
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| − | *A modified version of the [[Sheikah]] [[Eye Symbol]] makes a small appearance near the top of the Forsaken Fortress. |
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| − | *This is also one of the only two dungeons without a [[Warp Jar]]. The other is [[Tower of the Gods]]. |
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| − | *This dungeon is unique in that, like [[Skull Woods]] in {{ALttP}}, it has multiple entrances and exits, given the fact that only the interior is considered to be the dungeon itself (as seen in the [[Map#Dungeon Map|Dungeon Map]]), and the exterior territory belongs to the [[Great Sea]] overworld. For the same reason, this fortress is the only dungeon in the game whose boss is fought and defeated outside. |
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| − | *The tune that plays as Link is thrown in jail also plays in {{FSA}} in the [[Infiltration of Hyrule Castle]] when the [[Links]] are thrown in jail after being spotted by the [[searchlight]]s. |
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| − | *Despite seagulls appearing near Aryll's cell room, Link is not able to control them using a [[Hyoi Pear]]. |
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| − | ==Gallery== |
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| − | File:Forsaken Fortress.png|Map of Forsaken Fortress. |
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| − | File:ForsFortBelow.jpg|The view from below. |
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| − | File:LinkBarrelCatapult.png|Link being prepared to be catapulted into the Fortress |
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| − | File:LinkFlyingInBarrel.png|Link being catapulted into the Fortress |
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| − | File:Forsaken Fortress Daytime TWW.png|Forsaken Fortress in daytime |
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| − | File:SearchlightWW.png|A Searchlight manned by a Bokoblin |
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| − | |ja= {{Japanese|魔獣島|Majūtō||3}} |
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| − | |jaM= Demon Beast Island |
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Revision as of 14:09, 11 September 2013
I just want to know, aren't the Fused Shadow the power of the interlopers that tried to enter the Sacred Realm, and not the Spirits of Light? -James
- I was sure that it was the power of the dark magic that the interlopers used. They were stripped of the magic and sealed in their own realm. --Jase 14:28, 4 December 2006 (CST)
- Confirmed that it was the ancient interlopers' power. It reiterates it enough times at the end of the game. --Jase 16:05, 10 December 2006 (CST)
I thought that it was a helmate cause it goes all the way around the head User:zanramon
- The Twilight Realm isn't where the Twili originated from. They were banished to that realm by the Gods. The part about Majora's Mask being created by the Twili is stated very matter-of-factly, and there is no evidence of this. It can merely be noted that the eyes of Majora's Mask and the eye of the Fused Shadow are simillar. I'm going to make some changes. --Farewell to Gibdos 18:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Really why do so many people think it's so similar to Majora's Mask, the only thing in common is one single eyeball? I'd delete it altogether but it'd just keep popping up like it does on forums.Axiomist 02:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nintendo likes to reuse elements in their games to create a sense of familiarity. Because of this , many people think that if something is similar to something else, that they are automatically connected. Some people. Jeez. When will they grow some common sense?--Matt 03:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I think majora's mask was created by the dark interlopers. It fits the fused shadows and majora's mask have similar powers, not to mention that the are both able to corrupt people. --user:olallaboy .
Actually, I have a theory: The Dark Interlopers/Twili have a Terminian counterpart like everyone else, and that Majora's Mask is the Terminian counterpart of the Fused Shadows. Debochira 21:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
not everybody has a terminian counterpart, Link, Ganondorf, the koriki, all the sages (except ruto), king zora, medigron, biggoron, all don't have counterparts. besides, the twilight realm is completely seperate from hyrule, as is termina so I doubt any of the twili have a terminian counterpart.onikage_666 12:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Eh, while you are right not everyone has a counterpart, Biggoron, Darunia and King Zora do have one. IfIHaveTo 16:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
oh yeah, king zora and biggoron both have counterpart but Darunia dosen't altough Darmani resembles him somewhat.onikage_666 13:00, 1 August 2009 (UCT)
Imposing theories
I've been keeping this to myself for a long time, but I think that TP is not really relevant to the rest of the series. Any mysterious creatures are immediately associated with the Twili, though a few obvious clues show that TP completely contradicts the rest of the series. For example, the following do not appear in any other game: Twili, Oocco, Dominion Rod, City In The Sky, Fused Shadow, Ordona, Faron, Lanayru, Eldin. If these entities have had so much influence on the world, why haven't they recieved any credit outside of tp? I don't know, perhaps it's bad storytelling (Deux ex Machina?) rather than contradiction, but I think that Twilight princess exists on a league of its own. --Stalkid 23:37, 11 August 2010 (EDT)
Majora Beast?
What does that last line in the theory section mean? There is no such thing as a "Majora Beast" for as far as I know. Should that part be removed or am I missing something here? Dekler (talk) 12:44, 11 September 2013 (UTC)