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| + | [[Image:Zelda64c.jpg|right|frame|Link with a Hylian Loach as seen in ''Ocarina of Time''.]] |
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| + | The '''Hylian Loach''' is a large, rare fish that appears in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Ocarina of Time]]'' and ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|Twilight Princess]]''. The loach looks like a cross between the catfish and the pike, with an eel-like body and ornate swirl patterns down the length of its body. They generally weigh in at about 29-36 pounds. |
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| + | ==''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time]]''== |
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| − | Her profile says that she's human, but is that correct? Are there humans in LoZ? It seems as though she would be a Hyrulian (not Hylian, mind you). Am I wrong? {{:User:Alter/sig}} 05:32, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | [[Image:Hylianloach.jpg|thumb|right]] |
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| + | === Finding the loach === |
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| + | The loach appears purely by random at the [[fishing|fishing pond]] near [[Lake Hylia]]. The best way to find it it's by equipping the [[Tunic#Zora Tunic|Zora Tunic]] and the [[Iron Boots]], and then entering the water and scanning the sand floor and the area around the lily pads. If you don't find it the first time just exit the area, enter again, and repeat the process. Keep doing this until you find it, this may take around 10-15 tries sometimes. |
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| + | === Fishing the loach === |
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| − | :[[Hylian]] = pointy ears. [[Human]] = no pointy ears. [[Hyrulean]] = any resident of Hyrule (including Gorons, Zoras, etc.). Maple doesn't live in Hyrule. --[[User:Makar Rocks|Makar Rocks]] 05:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | These are the easiest ways to catch the loach: |
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| + | *'''1-''' After spotting the loach, pay to get a [[fishing rod]] and go back to the pond. Wait until the loach is on the area under the lily pads, then throw the bait in front of it (clear the area of other fish if necessary), reel the bait at a moderate speed so that the loach notices it, then get ready for the fishing of your life, as it usually takes 3-4 minutes to catch the loach. |
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| − | ::Well, I agree with Makar Rocks. It's helpful to have a distinction between the human and nonhuman Hyrulians. By the way Makar, you've been doing great work with all of the categorizations lately. {{:User:Axiomist/sig}} 07:53, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | *'''2-''' Find the [[Sinking Lure]], locate the loach, wait until night fall (since the loach notices the lure mostly at night thus making the odds better for you) then throw the lure so it falls on front of the fish. Wiggle it a little, and when he bites, just reel it in. |
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| − | :::Yes, you have been doing a good job. I understand that, but that's more of a Lord of the Rings idea than Zelda. As I previously said, LoZ has never made a mention of humans. But Maple also appears in [[ALttP]] (Hyrule), not just [[Holodrum]]. Besides, Holodrum is in Hyrule (world), not another dimension, although many people believe that. |
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| + | === The prize === |
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| − | :::I'm going to say that she's a Hyrulian. {{:User:Alter/sig}} 17:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | When you take the fish to the pond's owner he will tell you that the fish population's number has decreased and that he will release it, then he gives you fifty [[Rupee]]s. The only real prize behind catching this fish is the satisfaction of catching a legendary fish and knowing that you had done everything possible in the game. |
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| + | ==''[[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess]]''== |
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| − | ''"Hylian = pointy ears. Human = no pointy ears. Hyrulean = any resident of Hyrule (including Gorons, Zoras, etc.). Maple doesn't live in Hyrule.''"<br> |
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| + | [[Image:Hylian-loach.jpg|thumb]]Hylian Loaches can be found at [[Hena]]'s [[Fishing Hole]] in the summer time around the lilypads. "Baby" loaches can be found by using Link's bobber Fishing Rod, and a grown one can only be fished by using the [[Frog Lure]] or [[Sinking Lure]] while fishing from a canoe. Hylian Loaches are apparently still legendary, and Hena is remarkably impressed when [[Link]] catches one. |
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| − | That pretty much says it all. I don't see why there is further need to question it. :? {{:User:Mandi/sig}} 17:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | ==''[[The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass]]''== |
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| − | :Because that's a fan-made idea based off of other series, such as Warcraft, LotR, etc. |
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| + | *A portrait of the Hylian Loach can be seen in the middle of the [[Old Wayfarer|Old Wayfarer's]] house on [[Bannan Island]]. |
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| − | :'''Let me bold this part- I can see that no one read what I said. Holodrum is in Hyrule (world). Excluding that fact, Maple is in ALttP! If I'm correct, Hyrule is in Hyrule!''' Not trying to sound like I'm getting frustrated, but I can tell that no one has actually carefully read what I said. Search the text dumps- Humans are never mentioned in Zelda. {{:User:Alter/sig}} 18:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| + | *When you catch a loach on ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' a message appears that says "You don't suppose it's Hylian, do you?". |
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| − | ::First of all, I did indeed, read what you said. Very carefully too. What Makar Rocks has aleady pointed out is <b>logic</b>. Pointed ears are a known trait of the Hylian race. Maple does not possess pointed ears. Therefore, this puts her into the category of: <b>Human</b>. Now, any human that <b>is a resident of Hyrule</b> is usually referred to as, <b>Hyrulean</b>. Maple is not a resident of Hyrule. Therefore I don't believe it would be proper to categorize her as such.{{:User:Mandi/sig}} 18:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC) <br><small> P.S. Holodrum is not a part of Hyule. Not that I am aware of anyhow. But, then again, my Zelda knowledge is a bit rusty. :P</small> |
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| − | :::Ok, thanks for reading it. :D |
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| − | :::But she appears to live in Hyrule in ALttP. Also, Princess Zelda visits Holodrum, coming from the country of Hyrule. The OoS manga, although non-canon, states that Holodrum is nearby Hyrule (in the same world, not the same country). It is my understanding that those who live in the world of Hyrule are "Hyrulians" (Not [[Hylians]])). The issue that humans are never mentioned in Zelda does raise a red flag, however. I'd like to think that Zelda is a little more original than something such as warcraft, that simply copied Tolkien's (Lord of the Rings author) ideas of humans, elves (Hylians), and dwarfs (gorons). Yes, I know that this is a bit of a stretch, but you can take my word for it, as I have done quite a bit of study on how the ideas of creatures such as elves, dwarfs, etc evolved. |
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| − | :::I guess I'm taking this a little out of range. Now I'm discussing the whole race system here. Anyway, she does live in the world of Hyrule, and appears to live in the country. I think that means she's a Hyrulian. Sorry if I went off on a tangent there. lol {{:User:Alter/sig}} 20:40, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | She is not in ALttP. They just reused her sprite in the rerelease of ALttP for the GBA. That's not Maple. character sprites and models have been reused before for completely different characters. That does not make them the same character. Think the Chicken Lady from OoT, and Anju from MM. They are completely different characters. So Maple is not in Hyrule at all. I'm fairly certain that even in the GBA remake that character is called the "Witch's Apprentice".{{:User:Matt/sig}} 20:53, May 7, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :Alright. Well, you can do whatever, but I'm still going to stick with the fact that Holodrum is in the world of Hyrule. Another reason for this would be that [[Impa]] states (in a linked game) that she is visiting from the country of Hyrule, and is Zelda caretaker, thus indicating that it is still the world. That is just my take on it. |
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| − | :I guess the real question is: If you live in the world of Hyrule, are you a Hyrulian? I would think so, since we are all earthlings. ; ) lol So what do you think? {{:User:Alter/sig}} 21:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | ::The world is not called Hyrule. It doesn't have a name, but we know it is not Hyrule. |
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| − | {{Quote|You have...never been to Hyrule, right? In the kingdom of Hyrule there is a great castle, and around it is Castle Town, |
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| − | a community far bigger than our little village. ...<big><b>And far bigger than Hyrule is the rest of the world the gods created.</b></big> You should look upon it all with your own eyes.|[[Rusl]] (''[[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|Twilight Princess]]'')}} |
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| − | ::So, no, she is not in any Hyrule.{{:User:Matt/sig}} 21:59, May 7, 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Ok, I'll just let it go. The "world of Hyrule" has actually been mentioned by Nintendo, although I can't remember the source. I'll just drop it until I come across it again. |
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| − | P.S. I believe that ZU had that posted about a year or two back, and it surprised me to find that out. {{:User:Alter/sig}} 22:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Wow! Didn't expect so much debate here. Even if the name "Humans" for non-Hylians is fanon, there has to be some distinction between the two races because there's such an obvious physical difference ([[Rusl]] vs. [[Chudley]], for instance). I also think that Hyrule is a kingdom in an unnamed world, so a resident of Labrynna or Holodrum could not be called a Hyrulean. And thanks for the compliment, Axiomist! --[[User:Makar Rocks|Makar Rocks]] 00:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 00:31, 8 May 2009
Link with a Hylian Loach as seen in Ocarina of Time.
The Hylian Loach is a large, rare fish that appears in Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess. The loach looks like a cross between the catfish and the pike, with an eel-like body and ornate swirl patterns down the length of its body. They generally weigh in at about 29-36 pounds.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Finding the loach
The loach appears purely by random at the fishing pond near Lake Hylia. The best way to find it it's by equipping the Zora Tunic and the Iron Boots, and then entering the water and scanning the sand floor and the area around the lily pads. If you don't find it the first time just exit the area, enter again, and repeat the process. Keep doing this until you find it, this may take around 10-15 tries sometimes.
Fishing the loach
These are the easiest ways to catch the loach:
- 1- After spotting the loach, pay to get a fishing rod and go back to the pond. Wait until the loach is on the area under the lily pads, then throw the bait in front of it (clear the area of other fish if necessary), reel the bait at a moderate speed so that the loach notices it, then get ready for the fishing of your life, as it usually takes 3-4 minutes to catch the loach.
- 2- Find the Sinking Lure, locate the loach, wait until night fall (since the loach notices the lure mostly at night thus making the odds better for you) then throw the lure so it falls on front of the fish. Wiggle it a little, and when he bites, just reel it in.
The prize
When you take the fish to the pond's owner he will tell you that the fish population's number has decreased and that he will release it, then he gives you fifty Rupees. The only real prize behind catching this fish is the satisfaction of catching a legendary fish and knowing that you had done everything possible in the game.
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Hylian Loaches can be found at Hena's Fishing Hole in the summer time around the lilypads. "Baby" loaches can be found by using Link's bobber Fishing Rod, and a grown one can only be fished by using the Frog Lure or Sinking Lure while fishing from a canoe. Hylian Loaches are apparently still legendary, and Hena is remarkably impressed when Link catches one.
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
- A portrait of the Hylian Loach can be seen in the middle of the Old Wayfarer's house on Bannan Island.
Other appearances
- When you catch a loach on Animal Crossing a message appears that says "You don't suppose it's Hylian, do you?".