User:Sariatheforestsage

Remember Link, We are True Brothers Now

- Darunia

Me
I am a zelda fan who started out as a kid on the Nintendo 64. I was immediatly a fan of the game Ocarina of Time and managed to finish it alone just before the release of the Gamecube. The Zelda games are the only games I ever look forward to, although I have a Wii, Xbox 360 and PC I rarely get excited by news of new games beign released.

I did alot of Zelda videos on my youtube channel T68productions and making videos is my main hobby. The low amount of people watching my videos does not even bother me in the slightest. a509-HUmwIU

Me in real-life
To tell about who I actualy am is pretty hard for me because it is hard to explain. I am Casper and live in the farmer's parts of Holland where I was born and raised in a way I am very gratefull for. I speak in an accent that sounds like most other Dutch Farmer's accent and my english is also great (although I speak in an austalian like accent).

I am between 1.80 and 1.85 meters weighting about 70 kilograms and I am a 15 year old white male. I have short brown hair and wear glasses. Also if I wear summer clothes my slightly trained muscles are visible, living in the farmer's parts resulted in alot of work involving heavy lifting which I am also gratefull for.

I am usualy a silent guy only talking with people I am friend's with. Most of the time I am seen wearing bandshirts and either shorts or jeans with my hands in my pockets or as fists. I often look around the area often looking angry, but in reality I am very nice guy and care alot for my friends and family.

Why Saria
When I was a kid about 6 or 7 years old I was playing alot of football and was not realy a fantasizing type. That all changed when I received a Nintendo 64 and the games Super Mario 64 and Banjo & kazooie. Though these games were fun they lacked deep characters, of course I did not notice that until... A few weeks (3 months perhaps) later and I got Ocarina of Time. I was not familiar with the title and never heard of the Legend of Zelda but with my "Yes and No" skill english I departed for the adventure.

After Link's dream and Navi's flight the young boy in the tunic woke up and was greeted by Saria. I was incredibly amazed by the design of Saria and Mario never came close to such a detailed design. The Music on the background and eventualy learning Saria's Song (and driving my parents mad by playing it over and over again) made it so that Saria became my favourite character ever in a video game and was never removed from that position. Even now I still have map the size of my documents and downloads map together dedicated to artwork on Saria.

Other cool characters
Malon, she looks plain awesome and we share the face that we are both farmers or in her case a farmgirl.

Zelda, atleast the OoT version of her as a kid she has an awesome design not to mention the amusing way she expresses herself.

Darunia, he's a great guy and shares my love for good music.

Ruto, she should lead the Zora's army she is able to trick somebody into marrying her without breaking a sweat!

Deku Tree, He is a wise tree and in the few moments I knew him he already won my respect.

The Owl from OoT, No way I'll ever remember his name, but he was just plain awesome.

Characters that suck
Link, the OoT version of him had a terrible expression and looked like he didn't give a damn.

Know it all Brothers, I honestly don't give a damn about your subscreens.

The laughing guys, They are in Castle town but later appear in Kakariko and just laugh all day because of the same joke.

Jovani, fail fail fail and fail.

Legend of Zelda and Zeldapedia
I remained a fan of the series for the rest of my life, Playing the majority of the games, but only finishing Ocarina of Time 3 times, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess twice and A link to the Past. Most of the Gameboy games and DS games did not amuse me that much, and I never had a chance to finish Wind Waker.

I came across Zeldapedia when I was looking for information about the timeline (eventualy ended with the retro-perspective from Gametrailers) and have remained here for a few months. I have been doing research on all sorts of stuff, History of Hyrule, Characters, Link's lovers and alot of other things. This account was made about 2 days ago because I wanted to make addings to certain articles (although they were removed) for example about Ruto's behaviour during Ocarina of Time.

Fantasy World
Every time I play the Legend of Zelda I feel like a kid again, and it takes away all the bad feelings. It can be compared to a drug or alcohol without the side effects. My daily life exists out of Heavy metal, studying to join the army and keeping up with football and playing Zelda just takes all the stress away and puts me back into a colourfull world where there is no stress and an adventure lies before you or a big lake and a beautifull forest. With that in mind no game can ever beat a Zelda game on a console.

Good Player
That leaves the question if I actualy am a good zelda player. I am the best at the action part but lack the skill to perfom certain puzzles and dungeons (Water Temple OoT, Forest Temple OoT and Arbiter's Ground TP for example). I also lack the will to do things like "Collecting all bugs" or "Killing all the golden Skulltula's".

I can however kill most bosses provided I figure their tactics out in time. The bosses that delivered me the most trouble were Ganondorf (OoT I couldn't target properly with the bow), Ganon (TP I forgot about the goat herding) and Phantom Ganon (Slow turning and again the awfull targetting). So I would consider myself a decent player but not good.

Theories I believe
The Ancient Sages are the essences of the Six Sages who did not awaken in the child timeline.

The split timeline theory along with my own timeline.

That the sages in the adult timeline are death, unless killed sages are eternal.

That the Zora evolved into the Rito to prevent them from finding Old Hyrule.

That the chopped tree in Twilight Princess is the Deku Tree, they would never chop a talking tree and even then the Sprout would start to grow.

Theories I don't believe
That Stalford is Volvagia, that hing could never end up all the way there.

That the Triforce is found anywhere in Hyrule (youtube movies are fake the Triforce is in the Sacred Realm.

That the anything else evolved into the Rito.

Any Theory existing out of only on timeline, nintendo revealed the split-timeline for a reason.

That in Twilight Princess the Kokiri evolved into monkeys, endless facepalm for the one who made that up.

The naming issue
Regarding the constant discussions about why the characters are always called Zelda, Link and Ganondorf I want to say this. They are never the same people and the reason they still always have the same name can be explained. Zelda for example can be a popular name within the Royal Family and during Zelda 2 (see my timeline) the prince states that from now on every girl born in the royal family will be named Zelda.

Link also appears to be a very common name in Hyrule, The cat from Twilight Princess and Goron from Ocarina of Time are also named Link and looking at names like Keapore Gebora and Ingo, Link seems to be a easy name for a simple boy.

Ganondorf however is always the same person because he is repeadtly ressurected and fought again. There is only one Ganondorf.

Why the split timeline is the best choice
The main reason the split timeline theory has to apply is because Nintendo stated so in their interview regarding Wind Waker. While that is a common known fact there are also other reasons.

If you take the single timeline it is hard to place certain games because some just don't fit with other because they name things that didn't happen yet or never happened at all. The games can be putten in such a timeline but there will always be many flaws.

Also by picking a single timeline you state that one world (either where Link and Zelda are kids or Zelda is left as an adult) is in constant trouble with reappearing Ganondorf's and other villians while the other one is apparently all fine and safe. This is very unlikely because in one time Ganon is sealed in the sacred realm and in another he is sealed in the Twilight (with all the events that follow).

Eventualy something would go wrong in either realm. atleast that is my opinion.

What I love and Hate in the game
By now you are probably thinking that me beign a zelda fan means I think Zelda is perfect. But far from that actualy. Here I explain what I hate about each Zelda game (inspired by other members).

Skyward Sword

- More questions about the Timeline

Spirit Tracks

- I don't want a Zelda with advanced machinery.

- Zelda is a little bitchy.

Phantom Hourglass

- I was never fond of Gameboy/Ds Zelda's

- That whole great sea was funny once.

 Twilight Princess 

- The Art Style

- Dog senses

- Link didn't tell his friends he could transform into a dog.

- Hyrule gaurds were cowards

- The problems it created between the Six Sages and the Ancient Sages.

 Minish Cap 

- Link's speed

- Link's size

- the story

 Four Swords (Adventure) 

- Multiplayer, Zelda's are ment to be played by only one person.

 Wind Waker 

- Old Hyrule is gone, made me sad.

- King is gone, made me sad.

- Those freaking Koroks, I want Kokiri not walking mini-trees.

 Oracle Zelda's 

- the whole other world thing, Termina was one thing but this get's annoying.

- It looked terrible on the Gameboys

- Finish your damn series Nintendo.

 Majora's Mask 

- Time..., I can't think straight when that little clock keeps going.

- All those masks were hard to keep track off.

- That Zora Band guy sounded freaking terrible saying "Baby" all the time as voice acting.

- His Guitar was also useless.

- Yay, I defeated the dungeon boss and saved the Gorons from a freezy death, dum dum dum 3 days back in time and gone is your result.

 Ocarina of Time 

- Magic Meter (needed to kill Ganon???)

- The lack of a good bow (why no dot like with Hookshot).

- The Kokiri completely forgot how the only boy ever to leave the forest looked like.

- They didn't figure that Link wearing Kokiri clothes could have something to do with the Link they saw leaving.

- Link doesn't even bother to tell them anything.

- Link's expressions makes him look like he doesn't give a damn about saving Hyrule.

 Link's Awakening

- No colours

- No Hyrule

- Bad story and annoying ending.

 A Link to the past 

- That damn uncle and his famous sentence.

- Torches don't remain lit.

- never finding hearts when you need them.

 Phillips games 

Don't ask

 Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link 

- 2D Sidescrolling???

- Combat System

- No sense of direction

- no Rupees

- enemies everytime you missstep

 The Legend of Zelda 

- No in-game story

- No sense of Direction

- Dungeons out of order makes finding a dungeon suck when you can hardly navigate trough it.

To play and do list
Things I still want to achieve in the Zelda games:

- Buying the Wind Waker and finishing it.

- Forming a Timeline and understanding it.

- Never using Walktroughs again.

- Pre-ordering every console Zelda game that will be released in the future!

Things that seriously need to be changed in the series.
- No moments in which you have no clue as to what to do.

- Better tips and hints from your companion.

- Keeping an animated graphics style like in Skyward Sword and Wind Waker.

- Releasing an official storyline.

- Gaurds that show some damn guts.

- Better cutscenes showing real fights between Hylians and Moblins or other fights, those pictures of Hylian scripts are decent but nothing compared to some real good cutscenes.

- All scenes skippable.

The Timeline in my opinion
Before Split: Minish Cap --> Ocarina of Time. Child Saga: Majora's Mask --> Twilight Princess --> Link's Awakening --> Zelda 1 --> Zelda 2 --> A link to the past -->Oracle games Adult Saga: Wind Waker --> Phantom Hourglass --> Spirit Tracks.

Before the split we have normal Hyrule in which the tales are told of Gustav the Hero of Men not the Hero of Time, this is enough to convince me that Minish Cap happened before Ocarina of Time. Then the events in Ocarina of Time happen resulting in the Legend of the Hero of Time which all games except for Minish Cap refer too.

When Link beats Gannon and the Child Saga and Adult Saga come to existence. In the child saga we have Link and Zelda as kids who warn the King of Ganondorf along with the proof of Link been the Hero of Time (he can pull the Master Sword). Link then leaves to find Navi and the events in Majora's Mask happen. Link then returns to Hyrule to continue his search.

Meanwhile Ganondorf is tried by the Ancient Sages (the essence of the six sages who did not awaken at all). He escapes and the new hero Link appears, he saves Hyrule from the Twilight Invasion and Defeats Ganondorf on the open plains of Hyrule Field.

After The Hero of Time is done with his quest in far away lands (apparently failed to find Navi) he finds himself in the middle of a storm and is shipwrecked. The events (or dream) of Link's Awakening happen. Afterwards the hero continues his journey back to Hyrule.

Ganondorf's Minions have ressurected their master probably meaning the death of Link from Twilight Princess and Link has to fight his way trough Gannon's minions in order to find the lost pieces of the Triforce in the original Legend of Zelda. He eventualy finds them and battles Ganondorf and then heads north to the remnants of Hyrule. Trying to return their master once more Link has to awaken the Princess and when he succeeds the tides turn and much of Hyrule is completely recovered.

Now that Hyrule has been restored many ages of peace pass while in reality a new adventure await in A link to the Past forcing a new Hero to rise and save the land of Hyrule once more. After this adventure the land appears to be at peace for a long time, but still Link makes the occasional trip to the Temple of Time to ensure the safety of the Triforce Relic. One day he is teleported to another realm resulting in the adventures to save either the singer Nayru or the dancer Din in the Oracle of Seasons or ages.

in the adult timeline the Six Sages watch over Hyrule as the Hero of Time is no longer with them and Zelda is left to lead Hyrule. This is until Ganondorf breaks the seal and returns to the land of Hyrule once more. He is victorious because the land is without a hero to fight of the invasion and the Godesses are left with no choice but to cause a great flood.

A new world is created existing out of mostly islands and sea and Ganondorf is believed to be beaten. Many years pass but eventualy the young boy Link becomes twelve and joins a pirate crew to safe his sister. After the events in Wind Waker Zelda and Link set sail to land and stumble upon the land they would later call New Hyrule and Zelda leads the country to a prosperous future.

The events in Phantom Hourglass happen followed by a long time of peace which allows technological advancements and results in the adventure with trains Spirit Tracks! Once again the day is to be saved by a hero, beign familiar with farmboys or forest children to save the world a hero was rarely seen to evolve out of a royal train engineer. Link saves the day once more with the Help of Zelda herself and the land is once more at peace.

This is the Legend as far as we know but maybe the boy who jumped from the sky to save the lands beneath will change much in this story. A new chapter in our growing history book or maybe a missed page. Did this hero came even before the Hero of men or is the land of Hyrule overrun by a enemy once more. Old or New hyrule we have not yet discovered.

You may have noticed I left out the following games: Four Swords, Four Swords Adventures, The Wand of Gamelon, Faces of Evil and Zelda's Adventure. The CD-I games are even by Nintendo considered to have never existed and can not be considered a piece of history (or people must be eager to know how Link could see in the future that Zelda was kidnapped, worked together with Bin Laden and could do the Duckwalk. Also I do not know what I should make of Four Swords adventure because I see them as a non-canon multiplayer title. If they check up on Vaati I'd think it would fit before Ocarina of Time but my opinion remains the same that a Multiplayer titles does not fit in the timeline.

Expectations
Asking the question "What do you expect from the upcoming Zelda games" my answer means little. Zelda games are never what people expect them to be until they are played trough. Nobody expected that the tech demo at the E3 showing the fight between Link and Ganondorf would result in Wind Waker and I never expected Wind Waker to be fun.

The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword: this game appears to me as a game that will spare all the timelines people made because this appears to take the first position in the timeline, A young boy jumps from Skyloft to explore the lands of Hyrule below. I can not hide my eager to find out if the Hylian and Human races hail from Skyloft and if the land of Hyrule is civilized or a community ruled by monsters.

The art style does my soul a lot of good and allows me to rest easy knowing Link will not look realistic but fun, like games are supposed to be. I have my doubt about the story and am not as eager to play it as I was to play Ocarina of Time, but I have good hopes for the title.

The remake of Ocarina of Time has to do alot more good then Skyward Sword has to in order to win me over. I have never been fond of DS games and I already played Ocarina of Time four times and the Forest Temple and Water Temple are starting to take the piss. The dungeons need to be upgraded to prevent kids from giving up and never discover the amazing world of Hyrule. On the other hand it can not stray to far from the original Ocarina of Time and take away from the epicness of the original game. It requires a few suprises to beign worthy of replayed and 3D effects realy have to work.

I have my doubt but I will surely give it a try, especialy if it's a launch title.

Awards
Best Zelda game: Ocarina of Time

Best Character: Saria

Best Graphics: Wind Waker

Best Story: Ocarina of Time

Best Gameplay: Twilight Princess

Best soundtrack: Ocarina of Time

Best Song: Song of Time

Best Villian: Ganondorf

Best Boss Fight: Zant

Best Dungeon: Dodongo's cavern

Best weapon: Master Sword

Best non-canon product: The Legend of Zelda Abridged (just an inch ahead from the Sage of Darkness)

Worst Zelda Game: Four Swords

Worst Character: The Two Laughing guys from Ocarina of Time.

Worst Graphics: Twilight Princess

Worst story: The Legend of Zelda (no in-game explanation in Zelda 2 you could figure out you should awaken the princess).

Worst Gameplay: Ocarina of Time (three legged controllers and my hand was to small)

Worst soundtrack: Phantom Hourglass

Worst Song: Nocturne of Shadow

Worst Villian: Skull Kid

Worst boss fight: The monkey from Twilight Princess

Worst Dungeons: Water Temple and Forest Temple from Ocarina of Time and Water Temple from Twilight Princess.

Worst Weapon: Deku Stick

Worst non-canon product: Faces of Evil (atleast Wand of Gamelon didn't explain crouched walking as duckwalk).

Order in which I played the games
game 1: Ocarina of Time Beign the proud owner of a Nintendo 64 and having finished Super Mario and the Banjo games I was satisfied until I was told of a game called Zelda. I found the game and didn't think much of it when I saw the boxart and beign a simple kid with barely any english I played with Link and there we go.

I was at first disappointed in the room I was standing in but upon leaving the house i felt like I was in the middle of a dream. A beautifull forest full of children was before me all in beautifull 3D graphics and characters you could talk to.

Although it took me a year I eventualy finished the game before I turmed 7 and was given a Gamecube (earlier geeuses at what age I must have been were incorrect).

game 2: Majora's Mask

Although I had a proud gamecube in my room the Nintendo 64 remained my beloved console and was standing in the living room. I bought Majora's Mask and was thrown into the realm of Termina. Once again adventure was waiting before me as I started the game now with better english (beign able to understand simple sentences).

The game was in no way as awesome as Ocarina of Time but it was challenging and I felt like a true gamer. When I finished it I was eight and a half year old and as proud as a father who saw his son win a football match.

game 3: A link to the past

Never noticing the launch of Wind Waker and Four Swords Adventure due to the lack of a game magazine and contacts I fell back on a friend's old SNES and played trough the great story of A link to the past. I was very good at avoiding attacks and the game was beaten but with delay because of the birth of my sister in 2003. Although again not as epic as the previous two Zelda's I still felt as a true gamer beign able to beat these 3 games and was already the only fan in the entire area of my town and surroundings.

game 4: Twilight Princess many years past and I trained my skills in games more and more as the gamecube brought me shooters like Medal of Honor and XIII. I became feared among my friends for beign able to trick them into ambushes and snipe (I learned aiming from Ocarina of Time). eventualy the wii came along with Twilight Princess later on. I was at the time subscribed to the magazine "Power Unlimited", but the review was done by a shooter fan who dislikes fantasy and the game didn't get higher then a 6.

Not beign a member for too long I was convinced that the reviewer was a proffessional and the game remained out of my wii. Until I one day was bored with the low amount of wii titles and no other consoles. I finaly bought the game and was amazed by the result.

A great story with good characters and a thrill I haven't felt since the first time I played Ocarina of Time. The game was amazing and in a year I had beaten it and my love for the series was relit.

game 5: Oracle games beign able to borrow my cousins copies of Oracle of Ages and Time I was thrown in yet another realm and again in needed to be saved. The games were easier and beaten in 6 months but it was still epic.

Although I did not like the gameboy game for the graphics and failing to give an epic feeling. Din and Nayru made alot good, beign amazing characters and I was amazed to meet them.

Game 6,7 and 8: The Legend of Zelda, Zelda 2 and Link's Awakening. Recently downloading an emulator, the titles were all played and beaten within 3 months. I did not bother mentioning them separetly because they were all downloaded the same day and played by switching between game every few hours.

They were fun but did not meet my opinion of good quality. I was to used to the games after the N64 that I did not like the lack of graphics and story.

that is it for now but many games are still coming. Wind Waker and Spirit Tracks will soon be added to this list, you can be sure of that.

Other games I play
Besides The Legend of Zelda I also play:

Mario: The Mario games are a good way to escape to another world but without alot of trouble, I like the style and the music and story are brilliant.

Team Fortress 2: Beign a student ready for the Military Academy myself I love the complete unrealistic and Over the top style of the tactical wargame Team Fortress 2.

Gears of War: not realy meeting my demand GoW is still on this list for offering one of the best stories ever to be seen in a shooter. The game is fun and amazing.

Games I never want to play again
- Finaly Fantasy series, never liked them.

- Pokemon Games, nothing changed ever since yellow except for constantly adding new (and less original) pokemon.

- Soulcalibur series, fighting gets boring after a few minutes

- GTA series, constantly doing the same and Saints Row is better.

Addiction checklist
Want to know if you are addicted to the Legend of Zelda, this is how to figure it out.

1. If you actualy Know how to read Hylian (Guilty).

2. If you made your own timeline (Guilty).

3. If you keep repeating no matter what arguments that are given that Zelda games are the best. (Guilty).

4. If you joined facebook just to join a Zelda Fangroup. (Guilty).

5. If you pay 70 euros just to play a missed Zelda game (Guilty).

6. If you spend the majority of your time in the weekends editing your user page on zeldapedia. (Guilty).

7. If you hope heaven is like old Hyrule. (Guilty).

8. If you want to keep living in the Farmer parts of your country just because Malon also liked living on a farm. (Guilty).