Talk:Turtle Rock (A Link to the Past)

Move
The current title is no longer accurate now that the dungeon appears in. I propose we move it to just Turtle Rock and move the disambiguation that's there now to "Turtle Rock (disambiguation)". Any objections? 09:53, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Link's Awakening
Why does Turtle Rock from Link's Awakening get it's own page but A Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds are combined? --Planetbox (talk) 00:07, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * 'cause it's the same basic thing, it just switched locations with the Ice Ruins (to something that makes more sense). It has the same boss, too.KrytenKoro (talk) 05:10, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, propose disambiguating Turtle Rocks as "Turtle Rock (Hyrule)", "Turtle Rock (Koholint)", and "Turtle Rock (Boss)".KrytenKoro (talk) 05:44, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I like that better. 06:32, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The bosses are similar, but they are not the same. One is Trinexx (ALTTP), the other is Grinexx (ALBW). Also, the Turtle Rock appearance in ALBW is in Lorule, not Hyrule. So, you're basically proposing that we create "Turtle Rock (A Link to the Past)", "Turtle Rock", and "Turtle Rock (A Link Between Worlds)" with more confusing names. Personally, I think dungeons should always be separated. No two games have an identical dungeon layout; it doesn't matter if they are all called the Turtle Rock or the Swamp Palace. They are all different dungeons with different layouts, enemies, and boss encounters (even if the boss has the same name; the encounter is different). --Joshua (Yumil) (talk) 06:42, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I definitely agree. After a lengthy discussion at Hyrule Castle we decided to generally keep dungeons separate. I just mistakenly assumed the ALTTP and ALBW dungeons had a lot in common.

I vote we split ALBW off and create "Turtle Rock (A Link Between Worlds)." Sorry for changing my mind again. 08:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I second the split-- 17:05, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Grinexx is virtually the same thing; he's more identical than the various versions of Gohma throughout the games.
 * You're right about it being Lorule, sorry. Honestly, though, the design of the dungeons is very similar, as are all of the Lorule dungeons to their Dark World counterparts (the game is...basically an updated graphics version of ALttP with some improved game mechanics). It's unclear why that is, since you even travel to Hyrule's Sacred Realm later and it is distinct from Lorule, but it would be disingenuous for the wiki not to make it clear that the Lorule dungeon is the same entity, just in another dimension, even more so than the Light and Dark World versions of dungeons were for each other: ex. the Lorule and Dark World Palaces of Darkness are more similar to each other than either is to the Eastern Palace.
 * So, I guess I'm okay with a split, as long as we make that identical identity very clear.KrytenKoro (talk) 14:55, 30 November 2013 (UTC)