Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage



Welcome to the Temple of Courage, where various characters from the Legend of Zelda series battle out on a semi-weekly basis! You, the people, are the deciding factors in these matches. Functionally, all of these battles are popularity contests and not "battles" as such. For instance, in a boss vs. boss fight, we suggest that you vote for the one you like the most rather than whether or not one enemy would beat another in a legit fight. This is only a suggestion, though.

If you have an account and have at least 50 mainspace edits, you can suggest a fight or vote or comment on others on the suggestions sub-article.

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Week 162: Groose vs. Linebeck
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 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNN!!! Zeldapedia brings you the hundred-and-sixty-second fight in the TEMPLE. OF. COURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAGEEEEE!!! Our two contestants this round are two overly brazen and arrogant men who hide their true cowardly nature. Let's hope they don't run away from this showdown!
 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNN!!! Zeldapedia brings you the hundred-and-sixty-second fight in the TEMPLE. OF. COURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAGEEEEE!!! Our two contestants this round are two overly brazen and arrogant men who hide their true cowardly nature. Let's hope they don't run away from this showdown!

In the orange corner is a student of the Knight Academy in Skyloft. He hopes his skill in this fight as well as his red pompadour will help him finally attract the attention of Zelda. THIS. IS. GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE!!!

In the blue corner is a treasure hunter who explores the World of the Ocean King. He is wishing to get a big payout from this showdown. THIS. IS. LIIIIIIIINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECK!!!

Let's all cross our fingers in hope that by the end of this conflict, these two manage to grow as people. And now, LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMBLE!!!
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Votes for Groose

 * 1) Groose is one of the best Zelda characters, ever, in one of the best installments of the series. Linebeck was the best thing in one of the worst. Add in the fact that while Linebeck is entertaining and surprisingly deep and whatnot, he was still too cartoony to take seriously. Groose is just... the opposite of that. Whatever, he makes it work. GROOSE! --Auron  Kaizer !  20:06, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) Linebeck was a good character and everything, but his character arc unfortunately still suffers from Phantom Hourglass's atrocious pacing issues, not to mention the fact that the generally bland atmosphere of the game dampened down his charm. Linebeck is a pretty cool guy throughout the whole game, but his charm stays at a pretty constant level throughout the whole game &mdash; he does change throughout, but doesn't really get "that" moment where he really shows you how far he's come. They tried to do it with him asking for his ship back, rather than innumerable riches, but after the long Bellum fight and the general game fatigue, it was hard to take him seriously. Meanwhile, Groose has all of that and more. You get the distinct idea of his character growth, and I was very pleasantly surprised to see him actually come back from him "bully antagonist" role in the beginning, when such characters are often discarded when real villains appear. Xykeb  Yvolix   Zraliv  20:23, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) I like both, to be honest, but Groose has better hair. Paradox64 (talk) 21:23, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) I like Linebeck, but come on, guys, Groose. -Minish   Link   21:41, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) GROOOOOOOOOOOOSE -- Jazzi  22:00, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Groose is dumb. Making him cool.
 * 2) Gotta love Linebeck, but come'on, GOTTA LOVE GROOSE!!!!!!! Whooop Whoop!!!
 * 3) Linebeck only joined Link to get treasure, not to help anyone, but Groose is a boss! (later, like when he helps old Impa)
 * 4) The Legend of Groose: Skyward Hair.
 * 5) I Love Groose. He Is Awesome!!
 * 6) Groose is better, better theme better hair


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Votes for Linebeck

 * 1) I'm not a big fan of Groose. I find him annoying to say the least. Linebeck on the other hand is one of the few things right about PH. So he gets my vote. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 18:27, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) Well, Groose really did make me change my opinion of him.... but I don't like his personality. Just not the sort of person I talk to. Linebeck, however, has a sort of awkward charm. Mostly, I am amused by his embarrassment in being nice to people. --Naxios10 (talk) 16:30, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) First of all, anon above me, I'm sorry, but I have no idea what your vote means. Now for why I prefer this guy. He has that nice blue coat, he owns a ship (yeah, I know flying is an easier mode of transport than boating, but this ship can be made of solid gold), he's on the right, and I just don't really care for Groose in general. So... That's my vote.
 * 2) I don't really like Groose and Linebeck is a lot funnier. Plus, you can actually fight him (although he was possessed).
 * 3) I agree with anonymous above me, I really don't like Groose. I don't even like Skyward Sword all that much. And come on, a bully with rediculous hair vs. a treasure hunter? Go Zelda game before the stupid 'real' time-line and in the time Zelda games weren't rushed so much..
 * 4) I love Linebeck he is one of my favourite companions of all! Go Linebeck!


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Week 161: Skeldritch vs. Stallord
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 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNN!!! Zeldapedia brings you the hundred-and-sixth-fourth installment of the TEMPLE. OF. COURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAGEEEEE!!! Our two contestants this week are two skeletal bosses, whom the hero fights in areas containing large pits of sand.

In the blue-grey corner is a helmet-wearing, skeletal creature guarding the Sand Temple of the southeastern desert of New Hyrule. THIS. IS. SKEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLDRRRRRRRRRRRRRRITCCCCCCCCCCH!!!

In the camel-colored corner is the resurrected skeleton of a great dragon that guards the Arbiter's Grounds in western Hyrule. THIS. IS. SSSSSSSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLORRRRRRRRRRRRD!!!

And now, LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMBLE!!!
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Votes for Skeldritch

 * 1) Second week in a row I've fought a one-sided battle, but whatever. Stallord? Way overrated. Skeldritch was probably the coolest Spirit Tracks boss&mdash;I mean, Fraaz? Give me a break. However, I actually found out the definition of "eldritch" almost the day before I found out his name was "Skeldritch". That was kind of cool. &mdash;Ceiling  Master  20:10, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) No love for the boss that attacks you of his own free will? --Hydropanda (talk) 21:03, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) After watching a video of the Skeldritch battle, I decided that this one is the more challenging battle. Stallord is fun, but overrated. Jedimasterlink (talk) 21:26, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) This is how the fight would go. Skeldritch would send an endless barrage of boulders to Stallord. Stallord tries to bring up as much staltroops as it can, but the boulders go through and crush Stallord. The end.
 * 2) I pity the poor spine.


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Votes for Stallord

 * 1) I have to confess, I don't even remember the battle against Skeldritch. That would ensure a loss against 'most any other boss, but considering this is Stallord - one of the very small number of boss fights in the 3D installments that is consistently challenging and entertaining despite several replays - it simply has no chance. It gives you a taste of the power that chiropractors possess, which is why you should never shirk on your chiropractor bills. --Auron  Kaizer !  22:17, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) I do think the Stallord fight is extremely overrated, but considering I don't remember any bosses from that other game... Xykeb  Yvolix   Zraliv  22:32, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) Skeldritch has a cooler name, but I do remember some kind of fun spinner stuff from this one. -Minish   Link   23:15, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Twilight Princess > Spirit Tracks. Not that Spirit Tracks is bad, it's just...
 * 5) I've never played Spirit Tracks, and am thus unable to vote for the other because I don't know a thing about Skeldritch. Paradox64 (talk) 17:15, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) Stallord's battle was more fun. Skeldritch's was just kinda annoying.  Ike  22:30, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) STALLOOOOOOOOOOOORD! Kapodaco! (talk) 01:54, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) I'm not Stallord's biggest fan, but this is definitely a more fun battle. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:33, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) This one's easy, Love Twilight Princess, Hate Spirit Tracks. STALLORD!!!!!--Tiero (talk) 20:39, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * 10) You use sand to kill Skeldrithch, and Stallord lives in it, plus Stallord's last stand head can fly and shoot fire...Skeldritch can...um...bite you? With his weak stop in plain sight. USER:Roke56
 * 11) It's a stinking dragon people and that's what? A skull on a cannon seriously? You people better be glad it didn't have wings or wasn't covered in sand or you would be dead in 2 seconds Also the spinner and Stallord was one of my favorite things in Twilight Princess. And skeldoric didn't have a body! Stallord turns into a flying skull that shoots fireballs Herobrine 999
 * 12) Choosing Stallord because I have not played Spirit Tracks User:Dou6leRain6owz

Anonymous votes

 * 1) In my hazy memory of the other battle, there was some difficulty. Also, rocks. That's really it. I remember this fight more clearly (spin spin spin), and while I'm tempted to go for a preemptive pity vote (no offense meant to the voters on the other side, which is currently... nobody...) I do like the few opportunities I can get to use the Spinner when there are next to none. It helps that this is on on the right too... well, just kidding there... and here is your first anon vote.
 * 2) I just like Stallord better. If I need a reason, it's because I don't like Skeldritch's hat. I just don't.
 * 3) This battle was fun, and I don't remember Skeldritch.
 * 4) Um.........
 * 5) Stallord was in an abandoned prison and was a freakin disembodied floating dinosaur head.Him for the win.
 * 6) Never played other game + awesome skeleton + awesome sword = ... AWESOME!!!!!!
 * 7) Think of how the two creatures have been while still living.. One mighty dragon-creature vs. a spine.. Wow, tough match..
 * 8) well in one corner you have a boss from a game that noboby really remembers on the other you have a boss form one of every bodys top 3 zelda games no contest


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@Anon under Skeldritch, then Stallord flies around Skeldritch and shoots fireballs/magic until his helmet comes of, then Stallord wins. Ike 19:43, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Anon 8, "everybody's top 3"? It's not everyone's favorite, or even top 3 game. TP certainly isn't in my top 3. I did like this fight though, don't get me wrong. -Anonymous (Talk)
 * ^This. TP is definitely not in my top 3, either. And yeah, Stallord is probably more fun. I just deliberately chose to vote based on criteria that would allow me to vote for Skeldritch (finding a boss more difficult than Stallord is not difficult). Jedimasterlink (talk) 01:02, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
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Week 160: Carnival of Time vs. Picori Festival
{| style ="width: 100%;" 20 > 8.5 And now for something completely different. It's... the TEMPLE. OF. COURRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!! Every once in a blue really, really scary, red-eyed moon, the Temple of Courage takes a break from pitting characters and enemies against each other. The odds of this occurring are very slight, but your eyes do not deceive you. This week, we have a battle against two festive events, important to their respective countries in different ways. They have both printed eye-grabbing brochures, which will be read to you in the center ring at this very moment.
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In the orange corner is an event celebrated every year in Termina, a parallel dimension to Hyrule. Come the time of the event, Clock Town is overrun by tourists, as a great structure is built to let people access the Clock Tower. Festival-goers carve their own colorful masks and pray to the protective gods of Termina, in order to ensure a fruitful harvest for the year to come. Artists from all over Termina come to Clock Town for the celebration as well, and any wedding that may occur is considered another sign of good fortune. However, when the hero arrives, the festival (and indeed the entire world of Termina) is threatened by an impending calamity. THIS. IS. THE CAAAAAAAAARRRRRNIVAAAAAAAL OF TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!!!

In the green corner is a festival celebrated every year in the land of Hyrule. The festival is held to honor the Picori, a mysterious race that aided the people of Hyrule in the past. In Hyrule Town, prize contests are held, sweets are sold (and consumed) by the barrelful, keepers of lore tell the younger generations of the legends of the Picori. And at Hyrule Castle, a sword-fighting tournament is held, the winner of which will be allowed to touch a sacred keepsake of the Hero of Men. However, one year, a sorcerer named Vaati participates in, and wins, the tournament, seeking to obtain the vaunted Light Force he presumes to be hidden within the chest that holds many of Hyrule's monsters. After Vaati turns the Princess of Destiny to stone, the hero must undertake a quest to defeat the evil sorcerer. THIS. IS. THE PIIIIIIIIICOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRI FEEEEEEEESTIVAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!

Which of these joyful celebrations will receive the public's favor? That is up to our astute voters. And now... LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAAAAAAAAAAAAAADY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!!!
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Votes for Carnival of Time

 * 1) There really isn't much grounds for comparison here. The Carnival of Time is so delicately interwoven with the plot of Majora's Mask and has so many layers to it, it's like the danish to Picori Festival's donut. It's the one I would go to, given the chance. Awesome musical acts, more interesting stories to hear, and all the so-not-alcoholic milk beverages you can stand. There's also the fact that the Minish don't seem to care that they're being celebrated, unlike the Four Giants whom I presume you would not want to anger since they can crush your insolent bones into mush in seconds flat, with the emphasis on "flat." In the very, very niche Top Ten list of Great Gaming Festivals, Carnival of Time is top of the class. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  01:12, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) The Carnival of Time is actually important to the Majora's Mask plot...Unlike the Picori Festival, which is just sort of used as a catalyst. So I guess the Picori Festival is important in a different way, but the Carnival of Time still wins because it plays such a large and integral part in the game (after all, it does take place throughout the whole thing, while the Picori Festival only has a few minutes of screen time). -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish   <font color="#003366">Link   01:45, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) While both options are considerable, I just feel the Carnival of Time has a more important role to the story of Majora's Mask than the Picori Festival has with Minish Cap. Plus, time is money, and I like money. Kapodaco! (talk) 04:43, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Basically what's already been said. <font color="#14148A">Xykeb  <font color="#4B0082">Yvolix   Zraliv  06:49, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) After I finished Majora's Mask, I felt really happy, because I felt like I'd saved the Carnival. Minish Cap... I didn't like it that much. Paradox64 08:45, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) Even with most of the acts canceled the lead up to the Carnival of Time still encompasses over 60% of the side quests in the game. Now that's something worth celebrating. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 09:47, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) The Carnival of Time is something the whole of termina comes together to celebrate, unless of course an apocalypse is on it's way. But Even Then People still stay for it!--MarcusFenix2000 (talk) 11:55, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) Per Minish -- Abraham  link  oln  16:52, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) Obviously this. When I played MM, I actually wanted to be in Clock Town. Even with the Moon falling, the atmosphere seemed awesome. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 20:29, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 10) Without question. The Carnival of Time is simply the more entertaining event, and its role in the story is much more significant. (I actually have played TMC up to the end of the first dungeon. The fact that the Picori Festival no longer has any significance is a bit disappointing.) Jedimasterlink (talk) 21:40, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 11) The Carnival of Time is when an evil moon with a creepy face falls down,and destroys everything. A happy festival where all you can do is chase a princess around can't beat that!Mthompson(talk)
 * 12) Much more important to the game. I'd rather see all of the stuff that caused the carnival to be important than to actually go to it, so I didn't miss not being able to experience it BECAUSE YOU SAVE IT AND EVERYONE WHO WENT! And they have alcoholic milk.  Ike  04:58, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 13) No contest.
 * 14) Hmm... intricately intertwined with the storyline and sidequests versus 5 minutes of screen time and absolutely no significance whatsoever. TheWolfsFriend (talk) 20:06, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 15) Woo, carnivals. -  +Deadly  Slash  Sword+  21:07, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * 16) No comparison, there's just so many elements revolving around the Carnival of Time, the first moments of the game are priceless because of the hype created by the carnival added to the pressure of the moon falling over your ass. Although that damn worker that keeps hammering a tower is so annoying!--Trill&amp;Plumm (talk) 21:48, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) carnival much more awsome than festival
 * 2) Not only is this event important to the whole game, if the very eve of it did not happen on the final day, if the moon hit even a day later or sooner, Termina would e epically doomed. That is because the top of the clock tower (where skull kid and the oricana are at at the begining) is only accessible on that exact date, and afterwards, anyone still waiting on there would be knocked off (assuming they tilt the clock back after it's done), and the moon can only be entered from that tower on the last day when it is close enough to fly to without dying in space along the way.
 * 3) Hardly a choice. I havn't played MC. I love MM. The carnival of time definitely wins.
 * 4) This one is actully important to the game CARNIVAL OF TIME FTW
 * 5) IMHO, MM is just a better game
 * 6) Majora's Mask RUUUUULLLLLEEEESSSSSS!!!!! (plus never played other game but...)
 * 7) The Canival of Time wins OBVIOUSLY, the have the EVIL Moon on their side. If they fought to the death and it took longer than three days the Moon would kill them ALL. So relly the moon would count as the canival of time.
 * 8) Thinking about it logically, The Picori Festival is a long standing national tradition.  The story behind it has fallen into misuse with the seriousness of a fairy tale to the Hyrulians.  On the other hand, The Carnival of Time is a multi-faceted celebration.  It dabbles with religious as well as festive meanings.  On top of the regular celebration, the Skull Kid has made the destruction of Clock Town set to happen by the last day of the three day festival (which is two days longer than The Picori Festival).  As a national holiday, every store seems to be closed during The Picori Festival while in Clock Town the shops and bars are open for regular hours and receive a regular flow of customers.  Outsiders and foreigners are welcome to both events, yet only The Carnival of Time solicits to their needs by having retail businesses open for service.  Consider how many actions and activities stem from The Carnival of Time.  So many things occur because of it taking place-and it is a  annual event!  Consider what it would be like to have events such as the ones that occur in Majora's Mask were to happen EVERY YEAR!  That is one intense holiday celebration!


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Votes for Picori Festival

 * 1) Being a festival, at least the Picori Festival is happy, unlike the "Carnival" of Time, where the few people that actually show up are just waiting for their moon to crash into their land and destroy everything. &mdash;<font color="Blue">Ceiling  <font color="Orange">Master  02:02, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) at least you actually get to go to this one and experience it, with the carnival of time you just leave before actually seeing and interacting with it. sure theres the end cut scene but that isn't the same -Devdude (talk) 21:53, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) See above for being able to actually participate in it. --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:18, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) The only complaint about this one I have is that Zelda didn't choose the heart container prize. --Hydropanda (talk) 02:39, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) I khow we are fighting a losing battle, but the history behind the Picori festival is far more richer and less M. Night Shyamalan-esque the the Festival of Time. Longhorn Velez (talk) 22:22, April 4, 2012 (UTC).
 * 6) So many Kinstones, so much time. Solar flute (talk) 16:11, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) I dunno, I rather not organise an event where everyone is destined to die.. The mere thought of it all.. Only downside to the Picori Festival: after that Ezlo starts his scolding:P
 * 2) I know the Picori Festival does not take as much place in MC as does the Carnival of Time in MM, but at least it DOES occur. Not like the Carnival of Time, which never occurs because the Moon crashes on Termina. MM is just too frightening to get a real Carnival, so the Picori Festival gets my vote.
 * 3) The Picori Festival actually sets Link's new adventure in motion (in my eyes) whereas the Carnival of time does not really start the game too much.
 * 4) Losing fight indeed but man does it make a good first impression. I so wanted to just jump in and see the festival for myself.
 * 5) Good to be back; this is an event where you have the opportunity to meet my favorite character from one of my favorite games in the series. Win.


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Hmmm, think i know who's gonna win this one --MarcusFenix2000 (talk) 12:27, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
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