Talk:Moblin

Copyvio
I was about to make this a featured article. I went to check and make sure it wasn't stolen from anywhere, and what do you know? The entire article, or almost all of it, is stolen from Wikipedia. The article is subject for deletion or complete revision as of right now. I would rather see it rewritten, but somebody (or a group) needs to volunteer. The article cannot remain as it is. --Jase 04:35, 21 April 2007 (PDT)

Editing has taken place. --TheWallflower 12:49, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

has anyone ever thought that moblins are not evil and just used by ganon cause there dum--Zanramon 12:51, 12 December 2007 (EST)

Yes, The only Moblin that is not dumb is the King Bulblin.
 * One, King Bulblin is a different species of Goblin, and two, they're not. They have written word, they can speak, and they have a tribal society. Just because they choose to wage war on the other races doesn't make them stupid - the Gerudo's did it as well.KrytenKoro 15:24, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Copied from Wikipedia section
There were numerous misconceptions in the article (like Butablins/Pig Warriors being Moblins - they weren't originally, but were combined after OoX), and this info has the japanese and some reffing that should help. I have no idea what Boko and Buru are, though.

Also, on wikipedia, we call the section "Goblins", since there are five separate species, and we don't know what else to call the group. Maybe that could work as a disambig page or something?KrytenKoro 15:24, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Moblins are humanoid, bulldog-like monsters that usually reside within forests; indeed, their name is derived from Forest and "Goblin". They are sometimes accompanied by Pig Warriors (known in Japan as "Butablin", derived fromForest and "Goblin"), monsters with the same basic form but more porcine characteristics. These two types of monster were separate up until and, in which Pig Warriors were eliminated and Moblins were given their porcine characteristics. Moblin/Pig Warriors commonly wield spears, swords, or bows. They are one of the most common enemies within the games they appear, and are considered "mighty", but also "dumb". They are described as greedy, self-possessed creatures, and the major antagonist will commonly use them as mercenaries or summoned monsters.

Some Moblins are actually identified as characters within the series — the only Moblins given characterization within the series are the Moblin King, the Great Moblin ( and ), Moe (The Wind Waker), and the Monster Lady (The Minish Cap).

Miniblins appear in The Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass. They resemble miniature Moblins, attack with tiny pitchforks, and often appear in unending swarms.

Bokoblins are a common enemy in The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. They are smaller than Moblins, at about the same height as a human, but have a larger, snout-like head. They seem to be the most intelligent of the goblins, as they are often seen keeping lookout on sea platforms or piloting submarines.

Bulblins are a common enemy in Twilight Princess. They are roughly the same size as Bokoblins, only somewhat smaller and with a squashed face. They seem very militant, as they patrol several encampments across Hyrule, and are often seen riding large brown boars named Bullbos. Their King serves as a recurring boss in the game, and rides the white Lord Bullbo.

Phantom Hourglass
The article states they appear in the game on the sidebar, Since I've never played it, I can't add anything, but someone should! ;) --Magnus orion 21:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

"not present in Oot"?
"They are known to be, apart from the Gold Skulltulas, the only enemy immune to Z targeting, leading some players to believe Moblins are not present in OoT."

What is that supposed to mean? TwistedNerve 03:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, when I wrote that statement, my mind was of: "If someone doesn't know what a moblin looks like, and these creatures show up, incapable of being identified (Z-Targeting allowing Navi to do this), then some people will think Moblins are not in OoT. The die-hard fans will realise it, but not everybody will." I sure didn't, before I read this article. --Yuvorias, 13:32, 21 April 2008 (EST)

Ahh, I see now. But if people don't know about moblins already, Navi not telling them what they are wouldn't make them think moblins aren't in the game, because they don't know about them in the first place... TwistedNerve 04:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

That is true, I suppose. If you want to remove the statement, go ahead. It doesn't need to be there, I suppose. It's just...optional. --Yuvorias, 16:50, 21 April 2008 (EST)

A Link to the Past
"These creatures are reflections of the corrupted minds of the soldiers of Hyrule." There's no evidence for that. Just because they appear in one place (and one place only) that also corresponds to a location with many Hyrule soldiers does not mean there is a relation. As such, I'm removing it.

Butablins
Is there a reason that pre-WW Butablins don't have their own page? Just curious. >_> Nook 17:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess no one wanted to make it yet. If you want to make the page, then go right ahead. 17:32, August 25, 2008 (UTC)

Skyward Sword
According to IGN, the Skyward Sword enemies are not Moblins, but Big-Blins. http://uk.ign.com/wikis/the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword/Big-Blin Fyrisvellir 17:27, 6 November 2011 (EST)


 * Uh, Fyrisvellir, look at . Do a in-page search for "Moblin". I think this should be moved back. Technickal 17:06, 15 November 2011 (EST)


 * Gah. I will not touch that thing. Steahl 18:09, 15 November 2011 (EST)
 * I couldn't help it. There is no talk of Big Blins for the matter(What the hell is wrong with IGN? Mistake after mistake.) There is only talk of Moblins.... Steahl 18:16, 15 November 2011 (EST)


 * Fair enough. Dammit, IGN! >:/ Fyrisvellir 03:11, 16 November 2011 (EST)


 * So I should move SS Big Blins back to SS Moblins? Technickal 07:00, 16 November 2011 (EST)


 * Yep. Side note here... I will not be here on Friday to Sunday. Because of the massive amount of information that is sure to be written on this site... Why isn't there a universal release date *-_- Steahl 07:04, 16 November 2011 (EST)
 * Steahl, you need only put (or whatever time you return) on your user page and talk page to indicate an absence.
 * Back on topic, yes, I would move it back. 07:50, 16 November 2011 (EST)

Split
Why do we have both types of Moblins on this page as far as we know the Bulldogs and Pigs could be separate species referenced by the same name. I think they should be split into Moblin(Pig) and Moblin(Dog). Darre (talk) 15:25, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Mobling (Pig) and Moblin (Dog) are not official names, thus we cannot split them. It is better to keep official names. In any case, it's largely just an aesthetic difference. Many enemies go through these, and this is no different. 22:42, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Reorgnization
I think this page should be reorganized to the newer format of enemies since most incarnations are either one or the other and fought mainly the same. Darre (talk) 23:46, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

"Swine reflection" quote
From what I gather, the quote "A spitting image of the Prince of Darkness’ swine reflection, these are Ganon’s prized soldiers. Roaming about the western side of the Dark World, they hunt for Link in order to fulfill their master’s command" was from "a list of enemies in a walkthrough of A Link to the Past on [Zelda Universe]", not any official source, at least according to this thread; furthermore, the link provided for this quote (https://zeldauniverse.net/zelda/a-link-to-the-past/alttp-enemies/) is defunct. Should this quote be removed? CasualSunGod42 (talk) 16:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * We should probably remove it then. Delsait (talk) 03:41, 19 January 2021 (UTC)