Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage



Welcome to the Temple of Courage, where various characters from the Legend of Zelda series battle out on a semi-weekly basis! You, the people, are the deciding factors in these matches. Functionally, all of these battles are popularity contests and not "battles" as such. For instance, in a boss vs. boss fight, we suggest that you vote for the one you like the most rather than whether or not one enemy would beat another in a legit fight. This is only a suggestion, though.

If you have an account and have at least 50 mainspace edits, you can suggest a fight or vote or comment on others on the suggestions sub-article.

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Week 129: Santa vs. Tortus
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 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD;i padding: 5px" colspan="6"| LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! In the spirit of the season (not to be confused with the Season Spirits), Zeldapedia celebrates the Holidays (the specific season's name is withheld so as not to offend anyone) with a very special fight in the TEMPLE. OF. COOOOOOOOOOOURRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAGE! This week, in our penultimate fight of the year, we have two unseen characters, represented physically in the least contrived way available, both of which are confused with the legendary Hero at some point. Let us see what we can learn about these mysterious characters.

In the Holiday Red corner, we have either the physical manifestation of Goodwill Towards Men, or a shameless marketing ploy created by the soft drinks industry, depending on your point of view. This ostensibly large fellow has a habit of entering people's homes by way of their chimney, to deliver presents to well-behaved children. The Hero enters someone's house in this exact manner, and is initially mistaken for this legendary character. THIS. IS. SAAAAAAANTAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

In the Holiday Green corner, we have the former owner of the Stock Pot Inn. He passed away prior to the events of the game, leaving his business in the hands of his wife and his daughter, Anju. The elderly old woman who is Tortus's mother continuously confuses the Hero with her deceased son in a ploy to appear senile and infirm. THIS. IS. TOOOOOOOORRRRRTUUUUUUUSSS!!!

Come one, come all! This may be your only chance to see these characters in the flesh, so get your tickets now, and bring plenty of money for concessions! LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEADY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!!!
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Votes for Santa

 * 1) Duh, what can I say? It's Jolly Ol' St. Nick, and he's going to give me a big pile of coal if I don't vote for him. And Tortus is a "meh" character anyway, I didn't even get to know how the guy would have done as a father-in-law before he went. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to find some way to deal with the fits of laughter that the existence of this fight seems to cause. --Auron  Kaizer !  00:03, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I haven't played this game, or gotten all the way through in MM, but Tortus is kinda, he just kinda, eh, he sucks. --ϐαςς  ᴶαϟϟι Japas Artwork.png 00:07, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Just because.......he's santa. ~''' RavensMill
 * 4) In honor of the season, I'll go with him. Plus it was fun breaking into Holly's house via chimney. Tortus is cool in his own kind of way though. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 03:41, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Well... if this was summer, I'd vote Tortus. But It's not... Amazing  Link Link Artwork 1 (Ocarina of Time).png 14:10, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) I agree with the others.  Rusl   33
 * 7) I like Santa and I like Tortus but some men get looks from their mothers and if Tortus looked anything like his mother then, nice as his mother is, I have no choice but to vote for Santa :) Zelda -girl
 * 8) this is going to be a blowout. Why? cause Santa Claus OWNS.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 20:22, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) If you vote for Tortus, you're getting coal this year. -Minish   Link  21:25, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) *hums carols* --Hydropanda (talk) 02:53, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) im going for santa --Digdogger (talk) 04:47, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) It's Santa!
 * 2) I'm not taking any chances with the big man himself, I want that LoZ Game Watch this X-mas!!!!
 * 3) I don't want coal this year... GO FAT MAN!!!
 * 4) Santa is beastin'.
 * 5) Santa is the best (I hope i dont get coal again this time)


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Votes for Tortus

 * 1) first. --Tj hoffman (talk) 02:24, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) last Meep Meep (talk) 20:38, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) nope! i love MM and haven't ever played OoS, so i dont really have a connection to it. also i have never believed in santa, who has nothing to do with Christmas.  Ike  01:55, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Frankly, I resent the obvious attempts at manipulating children into doing what their told and just duping people with which I associate Santa Claus. Tortus kind of had this "who exactly is this guy?" thing about him that made him intriguing. Jedimasterlink (talk) 20:31, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Though we know pretty much nothing about him, he is related to some of the more detailed characters in the series, who lend lots of depth to MM. And he's, well, a ZELDA specific character.--Fierce Deku (talk) 02:23, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Zelda-related character who is integral to one of the most amusing characters ever or a fictional character who is used to keep kids in line? I'll go with Tortus on this one. - Leo Lab 04:19, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes
He's from Majora's Mask. Need I say more?
 * 1) I am definitly not going to vote for something created by coca cola that's got absolutely nothing to do with the original Christmas (be it with the Lord, or with the Ancient Germans and their Tree Fest).. I kinda believe Santa ruins Christmas for everyone not situated in the US..


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Week 128: Composer Brothers vs. Gorman Brothers
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In the green corner, we have two brothers, composers to the Royal Family of Hyrule, most famous for composing a song that has the power to summon powerful rainstorms. In death, they guard the Royal Family's Tomb, and the notes to their most famous composition that are hidden within, as Poes. THEY. ARE. THE COOOOOOOOMPOOOSERRRRRRRRR BRRRRROOOOOTHERRRRSSSSS!!!

In the tan corner, we have two clones, er, brothers who operate a ranch in the land of Termina. They are rivals of Romani Ranch, and attempt to sabotage their milk deliveries at several points in the game. If defeated in a horse race, the brothers grudgingly present the hero with mask resembling Garos, which they had themselves used as disguises. THEY. ARE. THE GOOOOORRRRMAAAAAAN BRRRRROOOOOTHERRRRSSSSS!!!

Now, lets watch as these two families duke it out! LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRREAAAAAAAAAAADYYYYYYYY TO RUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!!!
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Votes for Composer Brothers

 * 1) I enjoyed killing them repeatedly. And they're named after SEMITONES! --ϐαςς  ᴶαϟϟι Japas Artwork.png 00:57, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Gotta love the musical reference. Plus, I like Sharp's Melody of Darkness. Jedimasterlink (talk) 01:28, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) being a person with a musical background its hard not to pick the composer brothers. 05:48, December 13, 2010 (UTC)Amped0808 (talk) 05:48, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) This is no place for people as full of life as the gorman brothers. ~''' RavensMill
 * 5) The Composers are poes and they have a better story. This is a simple choice.  Rusl   33
 * 6) these guys were just funny, and I didn't expect them when I went into the graveyard, they kind of scared me. Also, I've lost some intrest in the toc ever since we switched to monaco...--Hylianhero777 (talk) 20:33, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Poes are lots of fun, with floating lanterns, glowing eyes through shadows, awesome pajamarobes, and an amazing laugh. It can only get better if you dress them up like Luigi and Mario!  Portal-  Kombat
 * 8) Hmm.. The Mario Bros. or the Boo Bros.? I almost voted for the Mario Bros. Gorman Brothers, but I like Poes and the Composer Brothers. Boo! T h e Midna Laughing.png ™  01:18, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) The Composer brothers are really cool and I don't like the Gorman brothers much.  Black   Dragon   Laguz  02:13, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) I like the Song of Storms one h--- of a lot. That wins. - Leo Lab 00:34, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) Oh yeah, I'm scared of two guys that cry when they see a MASK! Majoraswrath (talk)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) I prefer ghosts, they are way scarier than the Gorman Brothers.
 * 2) I love the Sun Song, and hate everything about the Gorman Bros.
 * 3) These guys are ghosts, which itself is pretty cool, plus, since they serve the royal family, they're more like good guys than the Gormans are.
 * 4) I have no idea who the other Brothers are. Plus, I like the way they resemble Mario and Luigi.
 * 5) I like the Composer Brothers more than the Gorman Brothers. I mean, you learn two songs (not to mention some epic death music from Sharp)from them, and what do you get from the Gormon bros? Some watered down stolen milk? No thanks.
 * 6) Really? Farmers vs. Ghosts. It's not even a question who's gonna win.
 * 7) Maestro Sharp: play for them! xD His tone of death is one hit kill for those weaklings. And also Song of Storms, my fav ever piece comes from one of them! Yup, my vote goes for ghosts.
 * 8) Song of storms = Epic.
 * 9) Those guys stink! the composer bros. actually have story significance, not just some lame side quest.(they are part of a side quest in OoT, but in MM they are part of getting to the stone tower temple. [I think -_-*])
 * 10) I'm voting for the Composer Brothers.  The other guys might be cooler if they were dead too.
 * 11) These brothers are truly wonderful for their connection to music in Zelda (something few characters have in the series), and similar appearance to Mario & Luigi. ^.^
 * 12) These guys probably don't smell like horse manure, and it looks like the Gorman brothers do. Nuff said.


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Votes for Gorman Brothers

 * 1) I like the Composer Brothers and all that, but these guys are just more devious. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 01:22, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Gorman Bros. All day err day. Eeyaaaah! --CrazyReDead
 * 3) For being unusually deep and memorable villains, if they even qualify as being so. Composer Brothers are cool, but I've not really come across many characters such as the Gorman Bros. in my storied career. Just the more original and interesting of the two. --Auron  Kaizer !  12:11, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) This was a tough one... but I'll go for the Gorman Brothers. The Composer Brothers kinda dissapeares from the games, we don't see them that much. Also I like the idea of creating two versions of Ingo. And the way they look ... well it gives me a good laught. --Vussen 14:01, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) dang this is hard, but i will have to go with the gormans. tho i must admit i like the composers in MM quite a lot.  Ike  22:46, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, one of the few times in the game where your're shooting sharp, deadly arrows at actual people. People say this game is for children? --Ricorum (talk) 20:41, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) It's a me!  Luigi! --Hydropanda (talk) 03:41, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) these guys scared me Meep Meep (talk) 15:54, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Whats not to like?-- Phantom   Zelda   ?!  

Anonymous votes

 * 1) The Composer Brothers are cool, and I love the song of rain, but the Gorman Brothers, or rather their brother, Gorman, have much more interesting personalities. Gorman was fun in Ocarina and you got to know him, and his brothers, better in Majora's Mask.
 * 2) Yeah, I vote for these guys 'cause I think they are in Minish Cap, working nonstop in a field. Ah, well.


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I've never met the Composer Brothers while playing OoT. How to make them appear? --Vussen 18:14, December 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * @Vussen: In the graveyard, I think there is a tombstone that, when read, will make one of the Composer Brothers appear. Or you might have to move one of the tombstones. Black   Dragon   Laguz  02:16, December 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * go to the end of the graveyard, you will see a tombstone that is bigger than the rest. move to either side of it, and one of them will pop up, kill like a normal poe, then kill the other one. i think it has to be at night. Ike  21:19, December 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have met Flat, but never Sharp... Not that I have tried really hard, though. --Vussen 21:28, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

shouldn't it say "Romani Ranch" and not "Lon Lon Ranch" in the intro?Devdude (talk) 00:02, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


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Week 127: Bigocto (Ocarina of Time) vs. Cueball
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In the nice magenta corner, we have a large octopus animal found inside a lordly fish. Is it a mammal, is it an aquatic dino? One thing we do know is, that it turns blue when stunned. And Link has to shoot his flying returning object at its weak point. THIS. IS. BIIIIIIGOOOOOOCTOOOOOOOOOO!!!

In the pinkish red corner is a huge invertebrate that moves around a square platform while avoiding the hero. Once damaged, it will change the direction it faces. THIS. IS. CUUUUUUUUEBAAAAAAAAAAALL!!!

Now, instead of learning our shapes like was planned to do! LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRREAAAAAAAAAAADYYYYYYYY TO RUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!!!
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Votes for Bigocto

 * 1) It was an amazing fight. And I haven't played LA. --ϐαςς  ᴶαϟϟι Japas Artwork.png 20:51, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Not for nothing, the battle against Bigocto was tense, occasionally difficult (at the age I was when first battling it, mind you) and epic somehow, unlike the coronary disease that serves as the real boss. With Cueball, it's as if they were not even trying. I was eight years old, and I managed to kill it in some sort of record time, without sustaining any damage, on my first try. Clearly, this is what inspired the difficulty level for PH and ST (oh now, you didn't think I could vote without including some ZelDS bashing, did you?). Bigocto is a solid competitor almost regardless of his opponent, but this is not even a challenge for him. --Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  21:08, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) I think BigOcto is a fun battle. In the start he was way too hard! If you play the game over and over he becomes more like a mini boss should be. He is my favorite among all mini bosses. He is original, even though he is a mutated octo, I don't think anyone have come up with an idea like this before. --Vussen (talk) 21:29, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) It's not that I liked Bigocto all that much or anything. Really this vote came down to the fact that Cueball was completely not memorable to me. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 21:47, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) I have a feeling that this won't end well for Cueball. Now for the reasoning: I like octopi (which is reason to like each). Now that I think about it, I wish that I could vote for both. Oh well. I'm more familiar with Bigocto and I guess that I like him a little bit more. OE (That's supposed to be an octopus). <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™  21:49, December 5, 2010
 * 6) It's been a while since I've fought either, but I remember Big octo being a more interesting and tense battle. It was this huge thing right on your tail (which is more impressive with a 3D camera angle) and was quite difficult if I'm remembering correctly. It also looks cooler. And appearing in Majora's Mask makes me bias toward it, even if it was the gameplay equivalent of a locked door.--Fierce Deku (talk) 22:35, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Fighting Bigocto was too tedious to be enjoyable, but judging from the video of the Cueball fight, Cueball was a joke. Jedimasterlink (talk) 00:22, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Did anyone play the freaking game? Bigocto would win any day. Except maybe thursday. JediBob64
 * 9) I'm not a particular fan of either of the fights themselves, but I like Bigocto's appearance and the overall atmosphere of the fight.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  04:10, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) bigocto is better. Meep Meep Meep (talk) 04:44, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) I love both of them but I played Ocarina Of Time when I was little and I always played it with my dad and I love the game sooooo much. I love Inside Jabu Jabu's Belly and that is why I chose Big Octo :D Zelda  -girl
 * 12) I love big octo back in the day i would struggle with him but i couldnt wait to go face him :) big ocoto FTW! Goron's Ruby.png Goron -Scrub
 * 13) I like Bigocto alot more. He is the better miniboss.  Rusl   33
 * 14) Neat. I like Big Octo. He was a fun battle and a good chance to try out the new boomerarng. Gastone (talk) 23:16, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) I dont really know the other one.--192 (talk) 04:00, December 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) The Fight was AMAZING!!! At first i had no idea What to do, but then i remembered this thing called the bommerang, then i was all better. not that hard of a boss... --User:Gerudo1337

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Well, I've never played LA. I hate the big octo, but he's the only one I know...
 * 2) The Big Octo scared the snot out of me as a kid, so my vote is going to him!
 * 3) I know that the Bog Octos pissed the heck outa me in Wind Waker when I was a little kid so I'ma vote for him.
 * 4) This guy freaked me out and I didn't even have a way to kill him. so he gets my vote.
 * 5) HE OWNS CUEBALL FOR SURE!
 * 6) I've watched many fights with this guy and STILL can't get how people manage to kill him... Hence me voting on him.


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Votes for Cueball

 * 1) You know the Bigocto was just a ripoff of this guy <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:16, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Besides what Oni said, I have always thought that the Bigocto battle was way too easy and just busy work in the game. Sure Cueball wasn't any better, but at least you could jump over him with Roc's Feather. Plus I have to give some love to the top down games. --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:46, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) I'll vote Link's Awakening for a change; I liked this guy. --Ricorum (talk) 18:25, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) I don't know which of the fight's I found more annoying, so I'll stick with something that's called Cueball. How nice of me, right?
 * 2) I love the top down games, so I'll vote for this freak.


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