Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage



Welcome to the Temple of Courage, where various characters from the Legend of Zelda series battle out on a semi-weekly basis! You, the people, are the deciding factors in these matches. Functionally, all of these battles are popularity contests and not "battles" as such. For instance, in a boss vs. boss fight, we suggest that you vote for the one you like the most rather than whether or not one enemy would beat another in a legit fight. This is only a suggestion, though.

You can suggest a fight or vote or comment on others on the suggestions sub-article.

Rules

 * You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that week.
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 * When a new fight is created (the process should take no longer than a week, give or take a couple of days), the votes from the last fight will be totaled and winner decided.
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 * Don't try to rig the votes by entering multiple votes; these pages are regularly patrolled and you WILL face consequences if you are caught.
 * Please don't use talk templates.

Week 66: Granny vs. Syrup
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5>Winner! "Undecided" LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADIES AND GENTLEMEN! Courtesy of Zeldapedia, we bring you the 66th near-consecutive week in the (all together now!) '''TEMPLE. OF. COUURRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!' And this week, we have a fierce battle between two vicious wiccas; two brides of Satan; the wicked witches of any compass direction you please; yes, my faithful audience, this week in the Temple of Courage, we have for you two famous witches of The Legend of Zelda'' lore, who will get out their walkers for this one final showdown of terrible, bloody death! Now, the tale of the tape...
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In the blood-red corner, we have a mysterious old woman who can be found in the darkest corner of Kakariko Village...creator of the ultimate in potion-making, the Blue Potion, and owner of a fierce pet tiger as well as possible relative to many characters...THIS....IS...GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

And in the opposite corner, in some kind of neutral yellow, we have a wizened old witch who frequently makes appearances. Together with her apprentice Maple, she sells the finest and most esoteric potions of the distant realms of Hyrule, Labrynna and Holodrum! Quite likely to turn you into a spotted toad...THIS...IS...SYYYYYYYYYYYYRUUUUUUUUUUUP!!!

Now you know all that there is to know about our two fierce magic-wielders! I feel as though I've said enough to make my point, so feast your eyes upon a BLOODUS CARNAGUS MAXIMUS! '''LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT'S GET READY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMBLEEEEEEEE!!!!
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Votes for Granny

 * 1) It was the Blue Potions that helped me survive the final battles. Besides, she has a pet tiger and a cool store! Portal-  Kombat
 * 2) Voting for Granny, for she is part of the Biggoron Sword side-quest.(She is also a character in MM). Haru Mclean Namikaze | talk | Kanji: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Hantou Makurīn ''
 * 3) I vote for granny.She is funny in MM.--Zelda phoenix the heroine of time 15:13, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) I've never really liked stereotypical witch characters. Granny is somewhat original. P.S. I think living in Kakariko Village makes her the wicked witch of the northeast.-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 00:43, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) I don't know, I just like Granny more.  Metroidhunter32  02:03, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) She has a tiger. For a pet. Besides, I never really met Syrup......--Marou239 (talk) 00:08, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) This was a really hard decision, but I'll go with Granny. Because she's currently behind, and it's easier to get money to buy her potions in OoT than in OoS. Oddball 464 02:50, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Syrup has apeared in more games than granny but still i like granny moreUser:Longhorn Velez]
 * 9) Well, I haven't got anything useful from Syrup yet in ALttP (since I can't find Sahasrala to present my first pendant), but without Granny's blue potion, I would've died or run out of magic (in the latter case, I'd have to get myself killed anyway so I can do the fight) against Ganondorf in OoT. --Majora4Prez (talk) 00:38, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) I don't know... I guess I just like her cat. And the game is better. Blue potions are pretty cool. Twili Tetra
 * 11) Blue Potion > Magic Powder. Midna Rocks

Anonymous votes

 * 1) My vote goes to Granny because she is more of chemist or alchemist (like the vote for granny says) and thats cooler than Syrup's simple Witch concept.
 * 2) I like the pet tiger. And she strangly looks less ugly yhen Syrup..
 * 3) Pet tiger!
 * 4) Majoras mask is superior again.
 * 5) She's Got a fricken' pet tiger! she makes the blue potion! she aids you in the quest for a sword greater than the Master Sword! what more could you want? (and who the heck is syrup?)
 * 6) The Biggoron Sword and Blue Potions... They were really, REALLY handy on my three-heart challenge. My vote goes to this one.


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Votes for Syrup

 * 1) She's just made lots of cool appearances in which her items were very helpful to me. Besides, she's at least acting the part with her stereotypical clothing and dialogue...Granny's a witch in name only; she's more of an alchemist or something. --Auron  Kaizer !  21:03, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) She makes weird stuff. Diachronos (talk) 21:13, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) I like Syrup more. But also lets try to see if something can beat OoT for once. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 21:17, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) I never really needed anything Granny could give to me, but Syrup's magic powder really helped me out of several tight spots in the later dungeons. Jedimasterlink (talk) 23:02, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Syrup pwns all.--DarkTriforce (talk) 00:36, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Syrup is just a better, more well-rounded witch. Plus, she's related to Maple. And Maple's awesome.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  04:41, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) In OoS, I would not have survived Twinrova, Onox or Ganon without her magic potion. Oh, and sorry for this old bias, everyone, but anyone who appears in ALttP get's my vote!--Redeadhunter (talk) 15:05, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) I think she should make another apperance sometime. When was the last time we seen her. Minish cap i think. And why did they drop mapel. She was great i defintetly want to see those witches in another game Oni Dark Link 17:52, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) Syrup makes a better stereotypical witch. And Granny only shows up in two games, and only one where she sells potions. I like her character better, but she isn't really a witch. User:HeroofAwesome

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Syrup has a hat! Plus she played an important role for me in AlttP, I couldn't have gotten 1/2 magic without her, whereas I never actually got the biggoron sword til the second play of OoT, and that was honestly just for fun.


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Peanut Gallery
Thanks to whoever did this. I don't know much aboyut Syrup.-- MaloMart ( talk )  23:13, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * You could just read the article you know :P --Auron  Kaizer !  23:15, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha. Haru Mclean Namikaze | talk | Kanji: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Hantou Makurīn ''
 * That so sad. Granny has only been in one game while Syrup has been in 5, and she still is less known. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 01:00, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what happens when you create one of the best games ever. One near-perfect game beats five really good games, I guess. --Auron  Kaizer !  01:01, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't blame me! I'm planning to play the Oracle games next! I'll know who Syrup is!-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 01:15, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * To be honest, you actually don't even need to meet her in Oracle of Ages (she just runs a shop, which you never have to visit), and you only need to meet her in Seasons if you want to do the trading quest. She plays a more substantial role in other games like A Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, and The Minish Cap, where she gives you important and/or necessary quest items.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  05:28, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Don't mind me, but Granny's colors are different. This sounds silly but I may not vote because of it, I mean it just messes me up >.> Would anybody mind if I changed Granny's colors? If you do then just undo it, no biggy.-- C  2  / C C  03:24, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't understand it at all, but not like I care or anything. Just thought that people wouldn't want to strain their eyes too much. --Auron  Kaizer !  13:51, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

"Two brides of Satan"? Is that appropriate?--Redeadhunter (talk) 15:10, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, "Satan" isn't a copyrighted term anymore, so it's all right. --Auron  Kaizer !  15:21, September 28, 2009 (UTC)


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Week 65: Deku Butler's Son vs. Flute Boy
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5>Winner! "Deku Butler's Son!!!" LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! We are now proud to present to you the 65th week in the TEMPLE OF COURAGE! All right! And now, for your entertainment, the Battle of the Lost Boys!
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In the green corner, we have a withered stump-like boy. Lost to unknown causes, he was to work with nobility, was the fastest of his kind, and may have been transformed into a mask; it's the DEKU BUTLER'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

And in the blue corner, we see an anteater-like boy. Sucked into the Dark World, he plays his flute in hope of rescue, can astrally project himself, and is a talented flute player; here's the FLUUUUUUUUUUUUTE BOY!

So, two small boys lost to circumstance shall face off this week. But only one will be found. Who will it be? That, my dear voters, is up to you! I want to stay found, so LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE! Yeah!
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Votes for Deku Butler's Son

 * 1) I love the mystery and ambiguity behind the Deku Butler's Son. This is one of Nintendo's better stories; just enough story provided for people to understand what's going on, but not enough to make it blaringly obvious.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  05:26, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) I love running around as Deku Link too much to vote against the Deku Butler's Son. And I don't think I've ever actually seen the Flute Boy. Diachronos (talk) 12:33, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) seriously i dont think many people know who flute boy is and is there a better pic than that one?? indycolts63
 * 4) Kay so I dunno who the flute boy is, but either way, the withered up tree dude from the beginning of majora's mask owns. Plus he lives under my bed. He is threatening me to make sure I vote for him. It's really more annoying than disturbing, but either way if I never come back . . . XiCERA was here! (don't be as shocked. . .)
 * 5) I remember seeing the supposed Deku Butler's Son and tried doing things to it trying to figure out why it's there. Good times. Anyway, I like how he may look like, I like the Deku, I like Majora's Mask, and I don't even know the other guy.  The Midna  ( talk )  Midna Laughing.png 22:29, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) MM character coming this way! Nice, but deku butlers son will always pwn, flute boy. Haru Mclean Namikaze | talk | Kanji: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Hantou Makurīn ''
 * 7) In my opinion, the story of the Deku Butler's Son is one of the best side-stories in Majora's Mask. I didn't actually notice the connections and hints until my second playthrough, though... Jedimasterlink (talk) 00:34, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) I wanted to vote for the Flute Boy, but as a loyal fan of Majora's Mask I can't turn this guy down...  Portal-  Kombat
 * 9) Well, i just love dekus so i'll have to go with the mask that turn you into one! Hevehoc 15:32, September 22, 2009 (CET)
 * 10) I love the Deku Butler's Son's backstory too much not to vote for him. Oddball 464 01:25, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) My favorite part about the zelda sereies are the many mysteries it holds. I gotta go with him. The Exterminator (talk) 11:13, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) Though the game doesn't tell you too much about him, I think all the dekus on this game are pretty cool. And you've got to consider the fact that he is quite possibly the spirit in the Deku Mask. If he lives in a swamp, then he's gotta be pretty cool, I mean that Southern Swamp is AWESOME. Twili Tetra
 * 13) The Deku Butler's Son is one of my favorite side plots in the entire LoZ series. Its subtlety and emotional significance are sublimely placed in an already dark and lonely game. In fact, this sub-plot features prominently in my fan fic I'm currently writing. Him and his mysterious story are the icing on the cake in MM. Deku  Hero  Deku Scrub.png
 * 14) The Deku Butler's Son is like such a bôss. You can clearly tell that he does not smell of elderberries. Quailord
 * 15) Though both are tragic, this was the most tragic in my opinion.(Darknut15 (talk) 00:06, September 26, 2009 (UTC))

Anonymous votes

 * 1) hey this guy may or may not be the spirit in the deku mask and i for one like flying... so yeah!!
 * 2) I think Deku Link is cuter and more mysterious ;)
 * 3) I love the ambiguity present in his story line.
 * 4) I dunno, I just like him better. I haven't played either game...
 * 5) His story is so sad, creepy, and ambiguous, how can you not love him?
 * 6) I give my vote to this guy cauz I hate that flute boy!!!!
 * 7) deku son for the win ,i mean come on at the very least he gets a pity vote right?
 * 8) 50/50 on this, but I gotta vote for the poor tree. the flute player doesnt DIE and deku but's son does; you can see the dad mourning him...(sniffle) Cybrwulf
 * 9) I love this guy!
 * 10) they both stink but i like him better
 * 11) Having played and beaten all but two Zelda games, I can honestly say that this story was one of the only ones that really touched me. Seeing his father there at the end and realizing what happened to him was one of the saddest moments in the whole series. And you didn't even know who he was!


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Votes for Flute Boy

 * 1) This guys story is in general just cooler. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 04:53, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) LttP was my first and most favorite LoZ game. This was my favorite character because he gives you two items. Mr <span="color:yellow;">kmil 11:16, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) He makes an apparition in the real world. I like apparitions.--Redeadhunter (talk) 13:46, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Although deku Link is brilliant the actual deky butlers son never does anything notable himself. This guy on the other hand probably has the best back stroy in A Link to the Past (getting lost in the dark world not brilliant but its probably the best one the game) and gives you wuite a usefull item. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 17:14, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) This guy had a great sense of mystery about him and is a part of one of my favourite mandatory side quests in the series. Too little of anything consequential is known about the lost Deku kid. Meh, I'll take Flute Boy any day of the weak. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  22:20, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Heh..... took me awhile, and I like his story more.--  C  2  / C C  22:22, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Even though Deku Butler's son was a more mysterious character and you got to play as him (sort of), I think flute boy is better. His story was sad and made you want to fulfill his last wishes. I found myself hoping that beating Ganon would bring him back(I was 8 at the time.) HeroofAwesome
 * 8) Flute boy really brings back memories...After being dead he could not pass away just because he's flute was still buried...Flute boy where ever you are my vote is for you!!! Longhorn Velez
 * 9) Man, I love majora's mask, but there's something about flute boy that just... wins my vote. Mr. biggles
 * 10) Meep! (Meep Meep (talk) 22:44, September 23, 2009 (UTC))
 * 11) I dont know why but I like this guy better. DragonPhoenix13 (talk)
 * 12) I like his flute. Midna Rocks
 * 13) Flute Boy plays such beautiful music on his flute. I would often visit him in that enchanted grove just for the song. Nayru's Maiden
 * 14) The music flowed through me like a cool summer's brook as the birds tittered in the trees, a harmony to the melodius song. Zeerotytus (talk)
 * 15) Having seen a flute player and being friends with many in general, he's just so much better. —<font face="verdana" size="2"> Baltro  [  talk  ·  edits  ] 04:36, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) This guy actualy appears in the game. Plus, he's an anteater. That's just wierd.
 * 2) Tough one for me, but I just prefer this guy, I love ocarinas, so he gets my vote.
 * 3) I find this one more mysterious, since he disappears when you find the flute and in the dark world he is a tree..
 * 4) My vote is for the Flute Player. He was so damn mysterious when ou first encounter him.
 * 5) This guy's flute is so convenient! Plus I never liked the Deku Mask...
 * 6) I agree with Narus Maiden,the fluit boy plays very good music. The fluit boy was better than the deku butlers son. But i feel pity for him because he was killed before he got to where ever he was going.the fluit boy remides me of skull kid because of the fluit and playing it in a part of some woods. Skull kid is one of my favorite bosses Becuse of MM. That is why I voted for The fluit boy.:)
 * 7) Fuit boy plays a ocarena and I LOVE the ocarena (INSET HEART HERE)


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Peanut Gallery
Thanks Xykeb and other person who I forgot their name for calling me scary, cuz it's really nice. . . Just kidding, I think it's funny. But the mask dude. . . SOS! Oh crap, he's coming! And I am a flipping chik. For future reference. --Xicera Was Here!-- (Booya I was first!)

Is there a bigger picture of Flute Boy anywhere? Diachronos (talk) 19:19, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * I doubt it. We could only get a bigger image of him if there's official art of him, which there isn't to my knowledge. As it is, we're stuck with his in-game sprite, and that's the size it is in the game. And AK doesn't like stretched sprites.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  19:35, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * It just looks off to me....-- C  2  / C C  19:37, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Can we use the picture of the Tree thing in the first cave that is assumably the deku butler's son rather then the mask? If you know what I'm talking about.-- GOLDEN FIERCE  DEITY  03:04, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * That was my idea too, but there'd probably be some theory discussions. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  14:50, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * What about using the Elegy of Emptiness? It makes a statue of what the mask characters looked like when they died. The Exterminator (talk) 11:18, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Whaddya say now guys? --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  14:50, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Kudos. Looks, much better. :)-- C  2  / C C  18:17, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice new images. Me like. User3000

Halfway through the week and we have a perfect tie. I like the way this fight is turning out. Hopefully it will stay close. Jedimasterlink (talk) 02:28, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this is one of my favorite fights so far. Flute Boy took an initial lead, then Deku Butler's Son passed him up, and now they're tied. Really nice.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  02:47, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Hey guys! Just wanted to say that I'm back now. Don't expect to hear from me as much as usual because I have to practice playing trombone for thirty plus minutes a day.Mr. Fairy


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