Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage

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Week 32: Stalfos vs. Lizalfos
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5>Winner! "undecided"
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 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| GEEEEETTTTT RRREEEAAADDDYYY TTTTTOOO RRRRRUUUMMMBBBLLLEEE!!!!!!!!!
 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| GEEEEETTTTT RRREEEAAADDDYYY TTTTTOOO RRRRRUUUMMMBBBLLLEEE!!!!!!!!!

In the silver corner we have what you could possibly become...a STALLLLLFFFFOOOOSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

And in the green corner we have a gruesomely pleasant picture of...a LIZALFOOOOOSSSSSSS??????????????

Well...LET'S GET STARTED.
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Votes for Stalfos

 * 1) Stalfos wins this. Everybody knows that Skeletons are awesome, because, y'know, we are all more or less Skeletons. Skeletons are up there with Ninjas, Pirates and Lawyers. Plus, Stalfos battles are always cool, especially in Ocarina of Time where it takes some skill to dodge their attacks and hit 'em when they're not blockin'. As for the anthropomorphic lizards, I beat them so fast in Ocarina of Time the first time that I did in fact blurt out a genuine "WTF" at the age of 10. That sort of explains a lot... -- Auron  Kaizer ( ...Kaizer! ) 04:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) As hard of a decision as that was, I'm going to go with the Stalfos. The Lizalfos are very annoying and very easy to beat. The Stalfos have occurred more often in the Legend of Zelda series than the Lizalfos have, and Stalfos have many different forms. They're also a much more difficult opponent than the Lizalfos. SheikahPhilosopher
 * 3) Skeletons are awesome. That's the only reason I need in order to vote for these guys.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  06:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) For fighting a Lizalfos, you just chop away with your sword and it dies. For a Stalfos fight, there's a lot of circling and blocking involved. Oddball464 12:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) I pick Stalfos 'cause they are freaking hard.User:Dragonmaster kayla
 * 6) Like Xykeb (hoping I spelled that right cause I certainly can't pronounce it) said, they're skeletons, which are frikin awesome. Just like Jack Skellington. Xicera 01:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Ugh, Lizalfos I hates them -- User:Nhigirl
 * 8) --BigCubby 18:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)It is actually difficult to beat.
 * 9) I'll gop with their OOT incarnations for the vote.... and Stalfos wins it. by far. - Leo  Lab  21:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) Well, Stalfos are already dead, so to speak, so you can't really "Kill" them. Yep, think that about covers it — Triforce   14 ( ... ) 22:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) Don't have to say much else except that UNDEAD GUYS RULE! Sincerely, Watcher
 * 12) Zeldamaniac95
 * 13) If it were vs. Dinolfos/Dinofols/Dynalfos I'd vote for the DDD. But Stalfos can own Lizalfos any day. Come on! Lizalfos have swords and that's it. Stalfos have swords, shields, maces and some need to be blown up or smashed to be permanently defeated.  Portal-  Kombat
 * 14) It's a skeleton,plus it's awesome-looking. Not much more explanation possible. Polaris000
 * 15) I'm going to have to go with Stalfos, considering how difficult it can be to defeat some incarnations in various games.Twoface13
 * 16) Dude seriously? Lizalfos just sounds like my mom when she's pissed, and undead cannot die. )..

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Stalfos are harder to beat and more awesome!
 * 2) Stalfos are just better. lol. it's over 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 * 3) skeletons are cool so i'm voting for stalfos
 * 4) Stalfos. In OoT, the lizalfos just screamed and missed a lot but the Stalfos are I think real good fighters.
 * 5) C'mon people! these ones are just greater foes to fight with!
 * 6) ughhhhh obviously stalfos cuz they could kick a lizalfos butt and lizalfos is too complicated to say
 * 7) One Jumping hit = Death with only three hearts in OoT. Lizalfos leave breathing room. Also, the Mini-boss in the Catfish's Maw, from Link's Awakening, is a Giantic Stalfos that has stolen the hook shot as to prevent you from completing the game. Further more, once you take him down with your sword you then have to blow him up with your bombs. And even further you fight him a grand total of FOUR TIMES. If that isn't strength I don't know what is.
 * 8) Stalfos is better because he is a b**** to fight. You have to blow him up with bombs, but if you don't have any, you're screwed. Plus, he can't actually die.
 * 9) don't really care about ocarina of time's versian of these two, but in twilight princess the stalfos are just awsomeness in a jar.
 * 10) I made a comment about this fight and stalfos are the living dead so i'm voting for them.Mr.Fairy


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Votes for Lizalfos

 * 1) Just look at the picture, enough seen right?--Power courage wisdom and time 04:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) i say lizalfos because they seem to be a bit tougher than stalfos User:Twilitlink
 * 3) im tied here but ill vote for lizafols mainly because i love dinofols Oni Dark Link
 * 4) What can I say, I like reptiles. -- Moblin   Slayer  15:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Ummm...Lizafols can become stalfos, so they must be good already?  (stretching things...) Dialask77 23:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) One. I like lizards. Two. Lizalfos (To me anyway) are more fearsome looking than stalfos. They also take longer for me to take down. Lizalfos all the way.
 * 2) For some reason, I had so much more trouble fighting a Lizlafos than when I was fighting a Stalfos.. So I say Lizlafos are better!
 * 3) It's a dinosaur carrying a sword. Seriously.
 * 4) Stalfos are usually really easy to kill. They were only hard in OoT.


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Peanut Gallery
Hang on. This fight tied with Wart vs. Deku Toad. Shouldn't there be some sort of tie-breaker or something before we just make a new fight?  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  05:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Um, Twilitlink, all versions of Stalfos I've seen have been tougher than any of the versions of Lizalfos I've seen.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  06:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

is it just my computer or does the home page still say king bulbin v iron knuckle on the home page Oni Dark Link

I just fixed that. Bek The Conqueror 19:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow, pretty close so far. If this keeps up, we could have the closest Temple of Courage fight ever.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Nooo...don't jinx it :P -- Moblin  Slayer  02:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Xicera, it's pronounced "Zye" (so that it rhymes with "dye") and then "kebb" (nothing that rhymes with that comes to mind, but it should be self-explanatory).  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  06:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Um, vaguely rhyming like bed? Bah, I hoped this would be a close fight, but statistically lizafols are simply inferior to stalfos. Dialask77 21:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey guys, my dad said yes, and I'M A MEMBER! WOOWHOOOOO! Come on over to my user page! Sincerely, Watcher

Minor problem; I just went to the suggestions page while logged on, and it wouln't let me do anything even though I'm a member now. Any suggestions? Sincerely, Watcher
 * You have to wait a few days before accessing a semi-protected page, as I'm sure the Suggestions page is. It's the wiki's way of making sure people don't just create random accounts for the purpose of sockpuppeting on forums and such. By the way, congrats on becoming a member. I look forward to working with you. Bek The Conqueror 03:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Kay, that helps, thanks. Is it your real name, or did you came up with that name yourself, Xykeb? I've never heard anything like it. XD  ~  X  i c e r a

Well, I wish that were my real name....  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

When was the last time there was actually a close fight and if there has ever been what are the chances of it happening again.  Metroidhunter32  02:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The closest fight I can remember was Volvagia vs. Argorok. I can't remember how long ago that was, though.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  02:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

So...who bets that there will be more misspellings of Stalfos and Lizalfos than there were of Fierce "Diety" Link when it's all said and done? -- Auron  Kaizer ( ...Kaizer! ) 05:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

i think you were right moblin slayer. we shouldnt of hoped for a close fight. Oni Dark Link

Next week, am I allowed to try my Darknut vs. Dark Link suggestion? Dialask77 14:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

XD I wish my name were Namine, too. But I guess I'll have to settle for Erica... XD Actually, I think Deity will win with more misspelling because of the 'I before E' thing. From Xicera,  the so called emo/Gothic chick 

it says two weeks dialask so i think its the week after. get that up there because i think its a good suggestion. Oni Dark Link

Hey everyone, I have an anouncement. On my user page, I've decided to set up something called "The Best Way To..." It's just an entertaining open poll to the uesers of Zeldapedia where every week I ask what's the best way to do a scenario, and you post your anser. It's not a competition, and is purely set up for the entertainment of visitors. Come check it out! Sincerely, Watcher

look,it's to obvious that these guys are to different and that's all i'm saying about the matter.Mr.Fairy

Look Watcher,i like your idea a little bit but i think you should have put your idea down here and let more people than yourself decide if you should do this or not.Mr.Fairy
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Week 31: King Bulblin vs. Iron Knuckle
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5>Winner! "Iron Knuckle"
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 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| LLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! We now are proud to give to you the thirty-first week of the Temple of Courage! All right! Due to the dangerous nature of this week's combatants, we advise you to not sit in the ringside seats.
 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| LLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! We now are proud to give to you the thirty-first week of the Temple of Courage! All right! Due to the dangerous nature of this week's combatants, we advise you to not sit in the ringside seats.

In the green corner, we have one of Ganons most faithful servants. While he's a chunky guy, he can move fast if he needs to, commands his own legion of servants, and riding a boar, it's KING BULBLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!

And in the gold corner, we have one of the deadliest enemies Link has ever faced. This guy wields a huge ax, is covered from head to toe in armor, and towers over all adversaries, it's IRON KNUCKLLLLLLLE!

So, two huge, ax-wielding, deadly, deadly monsters facing off this week! Who will win? That, my dear voters is up to you. I can't stand these delays, so, LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLETS GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE! Yeah!
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Votes for King Bulblin

 * 1) Although the obvious choice would be the Iron Knuckle I would have to say Mr. Bulblin cause it seems he can survive anything! I mean he's fallen off two very high bridges and been slahed repeatedly by Link and yet he's still alive in the ending credits. Yet if you know what your doing you can finish an Iron Knuckle off within minutes - Joely Hero of Time
 * 2) Got to go with Bulbin because he is very persistent Twilitlink 04:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) i got to vote for anyone who can defy gravity and hover in the air. I mean, how else would he have survived falling from those bridges????? Oliver Platt 14:51, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) This is a no brainer. King Bulblin must win; falling off bridges twice and 2 ground battles earns him the win. Leo604 00:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) While there have been some great IK's in Zelda history, my vote goes to the King of the Bullblin tribe. Every single time this guy made an appearance it caught me off guard. I was so sure he was toast after every every encounter (except for that one time it was obvious he escapes), and the little scene between him and Barnes is one of my favorite moments in all of Zelda. This guy just never, ever accepts defeat, and that's got to count for something. DokujaOh

Anonymous votes

 * 1) I have to say my fav of the 2 is Kingy, because he stole Colin, and I just hate Colin! D:<
 * 2) I loved the horseback combat in TP and you fight this guy on horse back most times.
 * 3) He's just better!
 * 4) he survived ill the end of twilighjt princess he would win
 * 5) He's just better.


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Votes for Iron Knuckle

 * 1) Huge, shiny armor-clad guys wielding axes own pretty much everything unfortunate enough to be in their way. While King Bulblin was a cool opponent with some character development, he could be easily beaten by an Irish beggar with one hand and half a bottle of Tullamore Dew left, much less serving as any challenge for axe-wielding homicidal maniacs. Hell, most of the Iron Knuckles, being re-animated suits of armor, will not feel pain when struck either. -- Auron  Kaizer ( ...Kaizer! ) 02:10, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) King Bulblin was way too easy. Iron Knuckles at least serve as an entertaining fight without dying 45 seconds in. Also, the nostalgic feeling I get when I remember being 7 and being terrified of these things is too strong to not vote for these guys.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  02:58, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Yeah, AK pretty much summed it up. And being 75% Irish, I'd know who an Irish beggar could or couldn't beat.  And before anybody says anything, AK didn't offend me at all, I found the comment hilarious. -- Moblin   Slayer  02:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, Giant axe, full armor, not to mention incredible speed if the armor happens to be destroyed. Iron Knuckle all the way. King Bulblin is just to clumsy— Triforce   14 ( ... ) 05:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Bulbin was too easy. Iron knuckes can kill anything. - Leo Lab  16:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) simply the best non boss enmy (well they are a boss on there horse) in the series. Oni Dark Link
 * 3) I am so totally voting for Darknut. User:Dragonmaster kayla
 * 4) Big ugly guy vs Big armored guy? I think we see where I am going with this train of thought... Dialask77 03:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) I think Iron Knuckle, because he has like a 300 pound axe and he's not obese, anyways King fatties axe isnt even sharp. Peakprovince 6:06 22 Jan 09
 * 6) Zeldamaniac95
 * 7) Is it even posible for this guy to lose? Here's how I figure it... it took me 3 trys to beat Iron Knuckle. It took me about 3 seconds to beat chuby over there. Mr. Clean with Hair (Xicera)
 * 8) King Bulblin was an easy fight, and beating these guys is the ultimate test of strength for a Zelda gamer. Oddball464 14:41 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) Iron knuckle is way cooler, plus he has a giant ax. His fight is much better. King Bulblin is just annoying. Polaris000

Anonymous votes

 * 1) misteergame   wel its easy who would win a giant suit of armor that is realy strong or a fat retard on a boar
 * 2) even with the crappy graphics of Ocrina of Time, the armor of an iron knuckle is so shiny.. I don't want to see Lord Bulbin so shiny
 * 3) I would go with the Iron Knuckle for many reasons. For one,they are better armed than King Bulbin, another because they are stronger than King Bulbin And finaly because they don't follow you throughout the game without dying until the last dungeon.Mr.fairy
 * 4) To easy of a choice. Big, armored, strong, can be very, very fast, not a fatty; Iron Knuckle has to many statistical advantages over King Bulblin for me to say otherwise. And I've never faced one! Sincerely, Watcher.


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Peanut Gallery
Uhh, guys, even though I did it this week, the screw up on Temple of Courage is not my fault. The whole thing looked perfectly fine when I did it. Someone must have deleted the past few weeks of fights, and we need to get them back! Sincerely, Watcher.
 * Do you use the Recent changes page? 'Cause in case you do (most editors do, at least) you'd know that I archived the old fights as it was getting hard to edit the article. I'm just sayin'. -- Auron  Kaizer ( ...Kaizer! ) 02:42, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

AuronKaizer you have offended me Oni Dark Link
 * Well, you know what they say, controver$y create$ ca$h. -- Auron  Kaizer ( ...Kaizer! ) 18:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * hmmmmmm... im not so sure Oni Dark Link

Watcher not that i think you made the screwup but you might have done the smallest little screwup.Mr.Fairy Er, in what way has he offended you. He hasn't offended me Mr. fairy

In edition to what i said to watcher earlier, You said you didn't do anything but i know you did something you big,fat liar.Mr Fairy

Ahh, that's what was going on. Sorry AK, I didn't know that you were moving them. If I offended any of you, I'm sorry. Except to this Mr. Fariy guy (Watcher immitator? Watcher hater? What is wrong with you?!? You don't have to be so rude.) And just so everyone knows, I'm male. Sincerely, Watcher.
 * That's what happens when you're popular; people start imitating you. Just ask that punk Seth MacFarlane, he stole my act. -- Auron  Kaizer ( ...Kaizer! ) 00:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say that's my curse, but since in real life I'm not all that popular... Anyways, how long has it been since we had a fight that wasn't totaly one-sided? I hate to seem like I'm just voting for the popular guy. Not that I am, though! Sincerely, Watcher.

It pains me to see someone so good lose so badly, even to somebody as good.  Metroidhunter32  00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was surprised to see this big a squash match too. I had a hard time choosing...okay, so I didn't. -- Auron  Kaizer ( ...Kaizer! ) 00:43, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Why don't we have a fight between the two most popular subjects so we can have a closer fight than what we have been having? Dialask77 03:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

That's what we do anyways. The problem is that when it comes down to the voting, people usualy overwhelm one particular side. Sincerely, Watcher.
 * Yeah, we also have the guys go with the flow and vote for whoever's winning, the guys who haven't heard of the other character/enemy or we're just lucky enough to have one fighter that is just way more popular than the other one. -- Auron  Kaizer ( ...Kaizer! ) 08:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'm back, but not for long... Oliver Platt 14:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I am talking about them being closely related. Why don't we just yank two of the most popular people from the series...say darknut and dark link... and get them to fight even though they aren't related Dialask77 15:26, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

good idea dialask. you should suggest it. theres no rule saying they have to have a connection. o and isnt that oliver plat guy the one who thought he was annoying us all by making up stuff? wasnt he banned?Oni Dark Link
 * He wasn't banned; he just "left his boss" and hasn't edited since then until now. -- Moblin  Slayer  17:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

yeah i edited an update at the same time you wrote that to me Oni Dark Link

I know it's a crazy idea, but wouldn't it be cool if we took a bunch of people from the Zelda series and make like a bracket and keep doing temple of courage fights (more like votes) until we come out with a winner? You know like a tournament? Or like the football bracket thing my dad always gets? Sorry if it's a stupid idea. Mr. Clean with Hair (Xicera)`

Yeah but what would we do after that was over? Just starting over wouldn't be the same.  Metroidhunter32  21:51, 23 January 2009 (UTC) Yeah, you're right. It sounded cool at the time, but now that I think about it, I guess not... Ah well! =3 Xicera
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