Talk:Hyrule


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Major Conflicts
Hyrulean Civil War Personally I think it is not very clear when the war ended. Did it end the year Link's mother died or maybe a bit later? I think it is implied in HH though that it started before the year Link was born: "The war in Hyrule Kingdom continued unabated for countless eras. In the midst of the confusion, a lone woman fled the fires of war, babe in arms, and escaped to the forbidden forest." Zeldafan1982 12:07, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

Imprisoning War Well this section in HH is even more vague and fans are interpreting it in different ways. One interpretation is that the sages put a seal on Ganon (HH: "Then, Ganon was successfully locked up in the sealing void the six sages opened in the Sacred Realm.") but the entrance to the Dark World was left open and only closed "many years later" (Era: many years later) at the Imprisoning War. HH says though that "In the intense battle, most of the knights perished; however, the sages completed the spell and the entrance to the sacred realm was once again closed." and also why would the sages leave the entrance open? In my view the entrance was closed, shortly afterwards people started to search for an entrance but it was after many years that the seal broke and they managed to enter. Evil started flowing and then we have the IW. I'm not sure if the latter view is correct, but according to the ALttP manual the people's entry, the evil flowing and the war that ensued seem to occur concurrently: (Zethar's translation) "Yet, Ganon's evil made it to even Hyrule as it spread. People of greed were herded and consumed by this power, and disappeared. Black clouds grew in number in the sky, and many sinister happenings began to occur. The King of Hyrule called upon the Seven Sages of Hyrule, as well as the Knights to seal the source of this evil." Zeldafan1982 12:07, 27 August 2012 (EDT)


 * There won't be nearly as much up for fan interpretation when the English HH comes out. Hopefully we'll be able to clear things up then. 12:17, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

Spirit War About Anjean, HH says on page 134 that "In ancient times, this sage of the Lokomo tribe were sent to the land by the spirits of good. She guards the Spirit Tower and is acquainted with the pirate Tetra." Given that the Lokomos departed when Malladus was killed it seems that they were sent to keep Malladus imprisoned. "Ancient times" means at least some hundred years, so I don't think the war was concluded shortly before the new settlers arrived. Zeldafan1982 15:32, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Grooseland
Why does a joke in SS deserve a mention in the intro? It's not that I don't like it, it is simply not important enough to be mentioned in the intro. Also, it's not a canon name of the land, because it is used only by Groose. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 03:49, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Answer: it doesn't. A single character calls it that. In the face of ten other games calling Hyrule, one charater's pet name doesn't really merit a mention in the intro. Champion of Nayru (talk) 04:17, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It deserves mention somewhere. It's used, in official material, to refer to the area. That in and of itself makes it "canon", and if you think it doesn't then you greatly misunderstand what that word means. It is a joke name, yes, and my version of the lede made that clear. Please stop trying to whitewash the article.KrytenKoro (talk) 23:03, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It is canon that Groose called the land Grooseland, but it's not a canon name of the land because only Groose referred to it like that. Hyruleans don't call the land Grooseland. It may be marked as a joke, but that doesn't mean it should be there. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be mentioned at all in the wiki. It's mentioned in Groose's page. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 00:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That's definitely not what canon means, and technically Groose spends more time on the Surface than Link does due to all his skytravel, but how about a compromise: what about placing it in the History or Trivia sections?KrytenKoro (talk) 01:23, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Personally, if I didn't know this, I would be interested to read it on Groose's page only. If it was a name used by other Hyruleans then yeah sure, but as it is I just don't think it is relevant enough for this page. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 01:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Why do we have "The Surface", then? Groose lived down there longer than the Skyloftians.KrytenKoro (talk) 03:54, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * And he never used the name Grooseland anymore, he only called it Grooseland once and that joke was never mentioned again. If we allowed Grooseland, then EVERY single name that it has been called by everybody should be in the introduction of the article. Also, the great sea should also be called a handful of islands because Ganon calls it like this . OK, Groose is awesome and this joke should be mentioned somewhere in the wiki, but it doesn't deserves to be in the first line of the article as if it where important.SilverArcher (talk) 13:44, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with placing it in another section of the page, but you're using false analogies, and beside, it's mentioned after the "The Surface" name.KrytenKoro (talk) 14:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with Kryten on this one. I don't think "Grooseland" should be mentioned in the intro, but it should definitely be placed in another section of the page. Regardless of how often used or "canon" the term is, it still warrants a mention. 15:04, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, if the reference is not removed then it would indeed be better to be placed elsewhere. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 00:15, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Theory - LttP/Z2 "flipping"
Tinkering in Photoshop, I'd have to heavily disagree with that "flipping the map makes them match perfectly", as I got several water bodies becoming mountain ranges, highlands becoming water, the hilly Eastern Palace becoming a wide valley, ect. What I was able to get a few lineups with is Link's House became the North Palace: the Kings Grave/graveyard desert is where the Lost woods were, the Island Palace on the same screen as where the Master Sword would be, the Light world-equivilent to the Swamp Palace exactly on the Desert Cave with the statue, Pond of Happiness Island has Ruto Town-- but having two Z2 Heart Containers and Mido Town all within Kakariko Village's borders shows that the whole theory is kinda moot if size is taken into consideration. It doesn't work enough for me to consider it plausible, so I recommend removing that part. Xu-kitty (talk) 08:25, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Enemies do not count as inhabitants
If enemies do not count as inhabitants of Hyrule, shouldn't we get rid of River Zoras, too? Delsait (talk) 05:47, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Would adding a beasts section to the inhabitants section, work for everyone? Delsait (talk) 06:18, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't see a point or any real beneficial use for that. 06:24, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Some of the Beasts, while hostile, are sentients with dialogue. Delsait (talk) 06:28, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * That doesn't change anything. The wiki classifies enemies as enemies, regardless of their sentience. 06:32, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * River Zoras are mentioned, however. Delsait (talk) 06:33, 21 December 2016 (UTC)