User:SuperAlpaca/Discussion

*** Topic is: Hi, welcome to the Zeldapedia IRC channel. Sponsored by the Dufus Gallery! *** Topic set by Farron!~4ce8857s@cpe-74-71-250-219.twcny.res.rr.com [Wed Jun 9 20:32:03 2010] *** LetMeSpeakPlease Umlaut Trilby DJ_Sally Farron|OtherKomp *** Channel created on Sat Jan 30 02:29:40 2010  Or the Sally classic, "Bye..."  Who are you?  I believe that's SA...  Right now, I just want to ask one favour  All I wish is for a brand new start  You specifically said you were leaving forever...  Like all opinions of me went away and I could meet you again for the first time  That's impossible...  I personally have nothing against you...  Can't erase the past...  I just want a fresh start, or as close as I can have  Everyone deserves a second chance...  Why do you deserve it?  I am really sorry for anything  What did he do?  That's like saying a cold-blooded murderer deserves a second chance... <LetMeSpeakPlease> I just... I honestly am to confused <Umlaut> SA, what did you do? <LetMeSpeakPlease> I am trying to think through my life and decided that Zeldapedia is what I want my life to be <Umlaut> I feel like I'm missing something here. *** Trilby [~4ce8857s@cpe-74-71-250-219.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] <DJ_Sally> That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.... <LetMeSpeakPlease> I just want a new chance, because I only have a limited number of them in life, and just having one extra could make the differenct <DJ_Sally> You want to base your entire life off a site... <Umlaut> What is going on? What did SA do? <LetMeSpeakPlease> No, but I feel like it will change my life if I stay here <LetMeSpeakPlease> I just feel that this community is a once-in-a-life chance, and I realized it to late <Umlaut> Did you use /ignore on me? You did, didn't you? <LetMeSpeakPlease> I ruined my chance, and I just want a second try <DJ_Sally> Nope... <DJ_Sally> You still haven't told me why you deserve it? <Umlaut> WHAT DID HE DO THAT MAKES YOU ANGRY?! <LetMeSpeakPlease> Jazzi got a second chance. She was going to be blocked forever and look at her now, after a second chance <Umlaut> Am I invisible? <DJ_Sally> You weren't blocked.... <LetMeSpeakPlease> I feel that I have grown up, or at least started to. I just want to prove that, and I don't think that I can. <DJ_Sally> Hold on a second, Drakky, alright... <LetMeSpeakPlease> Still a second chance <DJ_Sally> You can try as hard as you can, but you can't erase someone's views of you.. <DJ_Sally> I'm not an OP or an admin or anything, I'm being reasonable... <LetMeSpeakPlease> I am not religious, but this is just something that I feel I should try for. God just... I cannot explain <LetMeSpeakPlease> And erase is not needed. A chance to rejudge <LetMeSpeakPlease> If Jazzi didn't have another chance, she would not have been here. She comes on daily and she accidentally screwed her chance up by accident. She got another chance, same thing I am asking for. <DJ_Sally> She got blocked because of the misuse of a word that she found offensive... <Umlaut> I'd like to know what he did before the discussion is over, so that I can offer my opinion. <LetMeSpeakPlease> Still, it was an accident <DJ_Sally> I wasn't completely here, but apparently he though that Jazzi insulted him to make herself feel better, and he decided to leave in a hissy fit... <DJ_Sally> *thought <Umlaut> Oh. <LetMeSpeakPlease> All I am asking for is a chance to start fresh and act like this never happened. A redo. Everyone wants one, and I just feel like I need one *** LetMeSpeakPlease is now known as LlamaLord <DJ_Sally> Everyone wants one, but not everyone gets one... <LlamaLord> I know, but I could be one of the few that gets a chance <LlamaLord> Don't you want to help someone if you can? <DJ_Sally> Not really... <Umlaut> I say we give him a final chance. <LlamaLord> I feel I can prove myself. <Umlaut> If he messes that up, he's gone. <DJ_Sally> He compares himself to Jazzi, but there is nothing similar between the occasions... <LlamaLord> Second chances <DJ_Sally> Don't give me that second chances bullshit... <LlamaLord> She was unblocked, I have been blocked in a different way <Umlaut> One is harder to reconcile than the other. <LlamaLord> Minish will read this eventually, so he should get a say. Minish- please give my message to everyone. <DJ_Sally> That's not his say though... <LlamaLord> He gets a part, it is only fair... <DJ_Sally> Life ain't fair... <Umlaut> True. <LlamaLord> So shouldn't we try to make it a little better <DJ_Sally> That's a selfish thought... <LlamaLord> If we can find the caring side, then we will be better. <LlamaLord> Once we start helping, then we will continure <DJ_Sally> I've tried the caring side, don't work out that well... <LlamaLord> What could have happened? <Umlaut> Hmm...SA's sentimental BS is starting to get to me. <LlamaLord> If we gave everyone a second chance, or a chance in some cases, just think of how the world could have changed <DJ_Sally> Tell me that you'll give Adolf Hitler a second chance, and I'll believe you... <DJ_Sally> Tell me you'll give a monster like that a second chance.... <LlamaLord> He needed a chance. He turned into a monster because he never had a chance in the first place <DJ_Sally> He had a chance... <Umlaut> SA fails at philosophy... <LlamaLord> All he wanted was to go to an art school. If he had gotten a chance and let in, WWII wouldn't have existed *** Griffen78 [44205017@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-fsfjqfspakojruyy] has joined #wikia-zelda *** Griffen78 is now known as griff|DIY <DJ_Sally> That's complete bullshit... *** griff|DIY is now known as Griff|DIY <Umlaut> It is. <LlamaLord> If you open up your heart, then even the worst monsters will turn nice <DJ_Sally> That's complete bullshit... <Umlaut> Yeah, right. <Griff|DIY> um...hi <Umlaut> If I open my heart, it will spurt blood. <LlamaLord> Metaforically speaking <Umlaut> Yes. <DJ_Sally> Metaphorically speaking, it won't.... <LlamaLord> People turn evil because they just want someone to listen <LlamaLord> They think that that is the only option left <Umlaut> It depends on how literally you take "spurt blood"... <DJ_Sally> Once again, complete bullshit, SA... <Umlaut> Yes. <Umlaut> He's good at BS, you have to give him that... <LlamaLord> Listen, I don't know what happened to you in the past, but I think you need to learn to care <Umlaut> Caring is for those who like humanity. <Umlaut> I don't. <DJ_Sally> See I've decided from my experiences that if you reject your emotions, than something like this bullshit that you're giving me right now can't affect you... <LlamaLord> Humanity is for those who think that people can have some good in them. Everyone has at least a little good in them, even if it buried deep down. <Umlaut> They don't. <Umlaut> If they do, there isn't enough. <LlamaLord> Even the worst have done something good <Umlaut> There's never enough. <DJ_Sally> The worst did what they thought was right... <LlamaLord> It is something. They tried to do more, but nobody gives them a chance <Umlaut> Who are they, to act upon their imperfect judgement? <LlamaLord> Everyone starts nice, but people turn them down, so they have to go to the worst thing to get the attention they want. <Umlaut> Then they should pay the price for not accepting their fate. <LlamaLord> Nobody is born evil, they turn evil after constant neglect and abuse. They are never given a chance. <DJ_Sally> Everyone is actually born with controlling their actions, their actions show whether they are nice or bad.... <LlamaLord> They cannot think on there own well enough. They follow their parents <Umlaut> Sucks for them. Deal with it. <LlamaLord> If there parents are bad, then they are automatically bad, they are there own person, they are just too young to think on there own. <Umlaut> BS... <LlamaLord> Life is not fair, but that is because people think that is set in stone and life can never become fair <DJ_Sally> You were praying to God before, and that means that everyone was born from essentially the same parents... <DJ_Sally> Life can never become fair... <LlamaLord> I am not religious <Umlaut> Atheism FTW! <DJ_Sally> Don't make me quote you! <LlamaLord> Life can become fairer, though. <DJ_Sally> No it can't... <Umlaut> Bad can spring from good. <DJ_Sally> Only if the bad feel their side is losing... <LlamaLord> That is why it hasn't become better. If people think something is possible, then it is. <Umlaut> Your parents' nature does not control your own. <Griff|DIY> any of you have Warioware DIY? <LlamaLord> it influences <DJ_Sally> I don't, sorry Griff.. <LlamaLord> No idea what that game is <Umlaut> Griff, do you mind? We're trying to philosophize. <DJ_Sally> Too bad that people choose their influences... <Griff|DIY> a game in the warioware inc series where you can make your own games <Griff|DIY> sorry.... <LlamaLord> That sounds cool <Umlaut> JK <Griff|DIY> it is <Griff|DIY> I was just askin because i got 7 games to share <LlamaLord> People don't choose who influences them when they are young. <Umlaut> They do. <DJ_Sally> The human brain can think right from the beginning.... <LlamaLord> But not well enough to operate without parents <Umlaut> That it ever thinks is debatable... <DJ_Sally> Studies prove that it can... <LlamaLord> They are not given the opertunity <LlamaLord> They are forced and they automatically become like their parents, even if they do not want to <DJ_Sally> I ain't nothing like my parents.... <LlamaLord> You still have their traits, even if they aren't noticable <Umlaut> So, you're blaming the whole thing on your parents? <LlamaLord> No. <DJ_Sally> Than why bring it up? <Umlaut> That's because of DNA. <LlamaLord> On a different note, scientist think that giraffes can speak telepathically <Umlaut> BS <DJ_Sally> Don't change the subject... <LlamaLord> The subject is second chances <LlamaLord> not DNA and genetics <DJ_Sally> The subject is whether or not you deserve a second chance... <LlamaLord> If you try to find the bad in people, then the judgement is biased. If you try to find the good, then you will find the good <Umlaut> I'm saying that people are similar to their parents because of DNA, not influence. <DJ_Sally> It's still biased.... <LlamaLord> So one you would be a smart individual or a drunkard <Umlaut> Finding good in a person is like finding a needle in a haystack. <LlamaLord> But if you find the needle, the reward is wonderful <Umlaut> No. <Umlaut> You realize how small the needle is <LlamaLord> If can be <Umlaut> and you weep for humanity. <LlamaLord> If you want to find the good in people, then you will feel better and you will become happieer <LlamaLord> *happier <DJ_Sally> You ain't provin' that you deserve a second chance.... <LlamaLord> Still, I am proving other things to myself <DJ_Sally> That ain't gonna get what you came here for.... <LlamaLord> And there are still 2 opinions that haven't been said <LlamaLord> Griff and Minish <DJ_Sally> Minish probably left and forgot and Griff doesn't understand what is going on... <Umlaut> Yep. <LlamaLord> Minish is still logged in and will get to read all this <Umlaut> Maybe... <DJ_Sally> Until the ping timeout knocks him off... <LlamaLord> Then I will record it for him <Umlaut> Please do. <LlamaLord> Okay. How? <Griff|DIY> what about me? <Umlaut> By copy+paste <DJ_Sally> Do you think SA deserves a second chance, Griff? <Griff|DIY> at? <LlamaLord> Zeldapedia <Umlaut> Life. <Griff|DIY> I'm not paying attention summaries <Griff|DIY> the situation <LlamaLord> <DJ_Sally> It ain't Zeldapedia at all... <Griff|DIY> if you would <DJ_Sally> If you were blocked at Zeldapedia then you would be complaining to the b'crats or admins, which none are present here... <LlamaLord> It is still Zeldapedia-related <DJ_Sally> I say prove it first, then I say a "fair judgement" is in order... <Griff|DIY> ok.... WHAT IS GOIN ON!? <DJ_Sally> I wasn't completely here, but apparently he though that Jazzi insulted him to make herself feel better, and he decided to leave in a hissy fit... <DJ_Sally> *thought <LlamaLord> And Jazzi said that she did it because she was a bitch and then I said that that was an insult to dogs... <LlamaLord> That is actually what she said <DJ_Sally> Difference is that she admits it... <DJ_Sally> That ain't an insult to dogs at all, by the way. . <LlamaLord> And how do you know if I have admited it <Umlaut> Your BS about good. <LlamaLord> Bitch has become an insult and also that is the term for a female dog <Umlaut> Admit that there is no good in anyone. <LlamaLord> There is just very little <Griff|DIY> so Jazzi got mad? <Griff|DIY> thats it? <LlamaLord> yes <DJ_Sally> No, just it... <LlamaLord> yes to the first question <DJ_Sally> Not at all... <DJ_Sally> That ain't the way it was explained to me... <LlamaLord> She got mad, but there is more <Griff|DIY> and this more es? <Umlaut> I have to go. Let me know how this turns out. <DJ_Sally> Now you ain't telling the full truth? <DJ_Sally> Alright then... *** Umlaut [4366ade9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-ikomfkvmkwdkfflm] has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC] <Griff|DIY> what is this more you are not telling me? <LlamaLord> What? She did get mad. <LlamaLord> But there is a lot more <Griff|DIY> WHAT IS THIS LOT MORE!? <LlamaLord> I don't really remember <DJ_Sally> Stop deceiving and say the "lot more" than... <DJ_Sally> This is bullshit... <LlamaLord> Okay, sorry <Griff|DIY> ... <Griff|DIY> I have no simpathy then ._. <LlamaLord> --- <LlamaLord> ... <LlamaLord> What is going on? The event happened and me and Jazzi got angry at eachother <LlamaLord> We both stormed off <Griff|DIY> k.... <DJ_Sally> She didn't storm off... <LlamaLord> She left <Griff|DIY> ,but your the one that came back and started bitchin about it <DJ_Sally> Thank you, Griff... <LlamaLord> I left shortly after she left <Griff|DIY> so I'm sidin with jazzi...I don't like bitchers <LlamaLord> But she is also one... Self-admited <Griff|DIY> she admited her falt though yes? <LlamaLord> And I didn't come on and bitch about it, I asked for another chance <LlamaLord> And I admit mine <Griff|DIY> not to her <LlamaLord> Well, she is not on now <LlamaLord> When she is on, then I can <DJ_Sally> You asked for another chance, and I'm asking for why you deserve it... <DJ_Sally> You answer me, I answer you... <LlamaLord> And she didn't admit it to me <Griff|DIY> I think you don't deserve it <DJ_Sally> That's as fair as I'll get... <Griff|DIY> ok w/e <Griff|DIY> not saying she does either, but idk <Griff|DIY> I think this whole thing is childish bull shit, but w/e <LlamaLord> I deserve it because I feel that I can prove myself, and if I fail, then you have nothing to lose, you can easily get rid of me <Griff|DIY> again: <DJ_Sally> Never been easy in the past... <LlamaLord> bullshit is one word <Griff|DIY> I'm to cool for one word <LlamaLord> Ture... <LlamaLord> --- <Griff|DIY> anyway <Griff|DIY> I have a game to finish... <LlamaLord> Good luck... <DJ_Sally> You keep talking about proving yourself, but you ain't talking about what your proving yourself of... <LlamaLord> I answered. Here is a repost "I deserve it because I feel that I can prove myself, and if I fail, then you have nothing to lose, you can easily get rid of me" <LlamaLord> Wait. I am proving that I can be mature <DJ_Sally> No, you didn't... <Griff|DIY> you don't know what mature is <Griff|DIY> dear watson <LlamaLord> I actually can be <LlamaLord> You just are not letting me show you <Griff|DIY> says you <Griff|DIY> maybe i don't care? <DJ_Sally> This whole conversation you could have been proving it.. <LlamaLord> Yes, and that is the only word to go by, unless you want to ask User:Zoey Zeldafan <Griff|DIY> which I don't <LlamaLord> I have been proving it in this conversation, there are no inappropriate comments, are there? <Griff|DIY> yes, but if you were mature this thing wouldn't drag on for so long now would it? <Griff|DIY> Answer: no <LlamaLord> The same thing can be said the other way <DJ_Sally> Inappropriate comments has nothing to do with it... <LlamaLord> They are a part of it <Griff|DIY> not the whole meal though <DJ_Sally> Part of it ain't gonna cut it... <LlamaLord> It is still part, not all can be shown in this <Griff|DIY> if you were mature you would just drop this <DJ_Sally> And don't use that as a counter-argument... <LlamaLord> But I am fighting for another chance. I don't give up on things that are important to me <LlamaLord> I fight for what I believe in. I am not giving up so easily. <Griff|DIY> well i say GIVE THIS FUCKIN SHIT UP WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH <LlamaLord> You have the option to leave <DJ_Sally> Tell you what I'll talk to the people who frequent the IRC the most... <LlamaLord> Okay. I will have this whole discussion for all to see <DJ_Sally> That includes Minish, Stars, AK, and Jazzi, they'll decide whether or not... <DJ_Sally> No... <LlamaLord> And Joe <DJ_Sally> Joe doesn't frequent it... <LlamaLord> He is still an OP <DJ_Sally> AK is the founder.... <LlamaLord> All OPs should get a say <DJ_Sally> I disagree... <LlamaLord> -- <LlamaLord> Joe still comes on often <Griff|DIY> no <Griff|DIY> and he can't punish or what ever without being here <LlamaLord> I have seen him on often and he knows me well enough <LlamaLord> Just as much as the others <Griff|DIY> and it isn't his job to settle a little childish bout anyhow <DJ_Sally> Exactly... <LlamaLord> He has had to before... <LlamaLord> Leekduck vs. Stars <LlamaLord> Unicyclopedia <DJ_Sally> Spammers... <LlamaLord> still childish <Griff|DIY> ya they are spammers <DJ_Sally> Do we allow spammers on ZP? <Griff|DIY> thats against the rules, but it isn't about <Griff|DIY> *bout <LlamaLord> Spammers who spam others without spamming ZP are allowed <Griff|DIY> what do you excpect him to do? ban jazzi or something? <LlamaLord> No <Griff|DIY> and no they arn't <Griff|DIY> what do you excpect him to do then? <LlamaLord> The whole point of the dicussion <LlamaLord> The same question that you were asked <DJ_Sally> I was talking about ZP only... <LlamaLord> I was too <LlamaLord> I think <LlamaLord> I do not want Jazzi nor I to be banned <Griff|DIY> oh my god <DJ_Sally> You are really can't be anymore clueless.. <Griff|DIY> LL just shut up about it...jeeze that to hard for ya? <LlamaLord> Griff, you can leave if you want <Griff|DIY> I know my options <DJ_Sally> Either way, I told you what I'm going to do... <LlamaLord> Same as I <DJ_Sally> Joe settles spamming disputes, not childish disputes where a person needs to prove something.... <LlamaLord> Stars needed to prove that she didn't spam <LlamaLord> that was both <DJ_Sally> I've almost never seen Stars spam.... <LlamaLord> Leekduck was accusing her of spamming and she needed to prove that she wasn't <LlamaLord> --- <DJ_Sally> The thing is there was proof.. <Griff|DIY> anyway... <Griff|DIY> http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml OMG <LlamaLord> I know <LlamaLord> I saw that about 12 hours ago <LlamaLord> Sally, do what you are going to do. I am going to do what I said I would. Griff, you do... whatever you normally do. <DJ_Sally> I'll contact Stars, Minish, AK, and Jazzi next time they are on the IRC... <LlamaLord> I am leaving
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