Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage



Welcome to the Temple of Courage, where various characters from the The Legend of Zelda series battle out on a semi-weekly basis! You, the people, are the deciding factors in these matches. Functionally, all of these battles are popularity contests and not "battles" as such. For instance, in a boss vs. boss fight, we suggest that you vote for the one you like the most rather than whether or not one enemy would beat another in a legit fight. This is only a suggestion, though.

You can suggest a fight or vote or comment on others on the suggestions sub-article.

Rules

 * You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that week.
 * You may only vote once.
 * If you are a user, please include your vote in the user section. If you are not a user, please include your vote in the anonymous section. This section can also be used for users who wish to stay anonymous. However, any votes put in the anonymous sections will only count as a half vote.
 * When a new fight is created (the process should take no longer than a week, give or take a couple of days), the votes from the last fight will be totaled and winner decided.
 * Please sign your vote (unless you want to be counted as an anonymous vote) with a link to your username in front of your eventual voting text.
 * Don't try to rig the votes by entering multiple votes; these pages are regularly patrolled and you WILL face consequences if you are caught.
 * Please don't use talk templates.

Week 59: Bob-omb vs. Goomba
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5>Winner! "Undecided" LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! We are now proud to present to you the 59th week in the TEMPLE OF COURAGE! All right! And what a treat this week will be, as we have a bout for the Foreign Championship!
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In the blue corner, we have a small walking bomb. From the Mushroom Kingdom, this little guy migrated to Hyrule, sacrifices himself to destroy his enemies, and loves sword strikes; give it up for BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB-OMB!

And in the orange corner, we have a little mushroom man. Also from the Mushroom Kingdom, he is considered the weakest foe ever, but has a vengeance in Hyrule, works extra hard to win, and hates pudgy plumbers; it's the GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMBA!

So, two forign fighters from a far away land are here to battle it out for your entertainment. But who will win? That, my dear voters, is up to you! I know you're all excited, so LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE! Yeah!
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Votes for Bob-omb

 * 1) This bob-omb has little to offer. But Paper Mario: The thousand Year Door has a awsome character named boberry.  And he's a bomb. So Bob-omb wins.   Metroidhunter32  23:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Explosions vs. uhh, walking into you? Are you serious? User:Redeadhunter
 * 3) I like Goombas too, but Bob-ombs are tougher and the partners you get in the RPG Mario games are great. This was definenatly a tough choce for myself.(Darknut15 (talk) 00:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC))
 * 4) bomb- ombs are very bittersweat. they can be an enamy or friend if used right, but goombas are just walking mushrooms.Green hat (talk) 00:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)Mr.Green hat
 * 5) Though both great (and weird to be in a Zelda game) I'm going with the Bob-omb. KABOOM! The Midna 22:36 3 August 2009(talk
 * 6) bob-ombs go KABLEWY and there bombs that is cool enough. USER:Darkdarklink
 * 7) Goombas are push overs while Bob-ombs are one of the few enemies in links awakening that have the potential to kill you. especially those weird smiley faced count down ones. Oni Dark Link 11:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Bob-Ombs explode-BOOOOOOOMM!they win. User:LoafDaConvict
 * 9) A bomb with a face on legs that still tries to kill you even when you attack it vs. a mushroom with a face on legs that can be crushed just by stepping on it.--Shade Link (talk) 13:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) Bob-ombs were my favourite Mario enemy as a kid. Goombas served as an annoyance. Oddball 464 17:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) Walking explosives vs evil mushroom? I doubt the bob-omb will be leaving alive, but the goomba will be blown to pieces if it doesn't. Dialask77  Ice Wizard  [[Image:Ice Sorceror.png|30px]] 17:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) Bob-ombs explode. I <3 explosions. Jedi Master Link
 * Aww, c'mon! Bob-ombs are soooo adorable! Cute little walking bombs that die at the chance to kill you. User:Nayru's Maiden
 * 1) You can't go wrong with stuff that blows up. Diachronos (talk) 03:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Walking boom-stick.--Luroberto (talk) 22:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) walking bombs just beat things that can just walk into you, im sorry but its true... User:Cybrwulf
 * 4) hmmm, i just like them more, b/c im a total Pyro hehehe-- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 20:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Go Walking Bomb flower
 * 2) They sacrifice their lives for you. (Well, to kill you, but whatever.)
 * 3) I don't like mushrooms, so I prefer the walking bombs. Also the bombs are the only ones I met..
 * 4) Bob-Bombs are walking kamikaze bombs, but what are goombas? Walking mushrooms that can only hurt you if you touch them. So lets see: walking BOMB, walking mushroom that belongs on a pizza and not a Mario game
 * 5) Bomb-ombs rule and Goombas drool. If you say otherwise, you're a loser and a wash-up.
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Votes for Goomba

 * 1) Bob-ombs are annoying, the way they run around wildly after getting hit. Also, Goombas were always there for me when I needed the hearts they give you when you kill them.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  01:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) It's a Goomba. How can't you vote for it?--DarkTriforce (talk) 02:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Bob-Ombs are cool, but these guys are instant classics. I mean, come on, they're evil mushrooms!--MaloMart (talk) 02:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) I'm a sucker for nostalgia and the roc,s feather method of killing these guys is abot as nostalgic as you can get!Midna Rocks
 * 5) It's a classic. Bomb-omb is less known. DragonPhoenix13 (talk) 12:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) I'll support the loser. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 14:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) the goomba wins 4 longevity and persistence
 * 2) I just prefer the goomba


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Peanut Gallery
Hey, everyone. Sorry about my long absenses, but I've had alot to do, so I haven't been able to do as much. So, even though school starts tomorrow, I'm back for a while now. Unless someone beats me to it, I'm back to being the main ToC guy! See ya! Sincerely, Watcher.

Can the background for Bob-ombs be changed? It's impossible to see the user links unless they have a custom signature.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  01:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Watcher, are you sure you should have extended the first "o" in Bob-Omb? Wouldn't the second one be better for our image?--MaloMart (talk) 02:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know, I think it sounds better this way. Turtleman579 18:40, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

all taken care of Xykeb.--Shade Link (talk) 13:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I for one prefer the all-mighty Koopa-Troopa! lol

Whatever happened to posting a picture of the winner in the Winner column?--MaloMart (talk) 04:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

strange. it was there. Oni Dark Link 11:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


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Week 58: Garo vs. Gerudo
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5>Winner! "Garo" 19=18.5" LLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN!, welcome to the 58th week of the TEMPLE OF COURAGE!!! On this great week we have a fight between two mysterious races.  Both are masters of the sword, both are seen living in canyons, and both are READY TO FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!!
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In the reddish-brown corner, we have a race of ninja-like beings that died in Ikana Canyon. Their ghosts return to any that would wear the mask of their master. If these cunning creatures can be defeated, then they reward you with a hint. and their famous line is... "To Die without leaving a corpse... That is the way of us GARO!!!"

In the turquoise corner, we have a strange race of desert living women. They guard their strongholds ferociously and will throw out any that attempt to sneak in. With only one male born every one-hundred years, say hello to the Gerudo!!!

Who will win? The lethal assassins of the Garo, or the fiece guardians of the Gerudo?! That is your decision! Our combatants are ready to battle it out with everything they have, so LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!
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Votes for Garo

 * 1) I've never bought into the general ninja hype, but the Garo in particular I ended up loving. Best race in the series, in my opinion.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  18:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Garos are more fun to fight than Gerudo guards/pirates. They have a better backstory than Gerudo and when they are willing to fight to the death, Gerudo just run away when they're almost down. Oddball 464 18:11, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) I always was a fan of double blade wielding, crazed ghost-ninjas than some race of spear/Double blade wielding, thieves that give up after you hit them enough. The Garo don't give up when defeated, they will either continue on, or commit suicide trying to take Link with them. This comes from a guy who is good at stealth in real life, wears dark colors, and practices using two short blades during sword fights.--Shade Link (talk) 18:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) "To die without leaving a corpse, for that is the way of the Garo." That line sums up how incredible the Garo are. MidnaRocks
 * 5) OK Garos are ninjas and they were dark clothes and actually blend in with there surroundings while the gerudo are being talked about everywhere and plus the garos are very stealthy and just look cool. Darkdarklink
 * 6) They're part of the Stone Tower story, the deepest and darkest in Zelda history. The Gerudo have Ganondorf. He was excellent in Wind Waker and good in Ocarina of Time, but otherwise the Garo are superior. Portal-  Kombat
 * 7) The Gerudo have Ganondorf, but that's all they have going for them. The Garo live in Ikana and are inherently mysterious. And they're ninja. Ninjas pwn. Jedi Master Link
 * 8) I dont know why I just like this race better. DragonPhoenix13 (talk) 23:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) I'm going with Garo. They are mysterious, and have two blades. How cool! The Midna  22:14 28 July 2009(talk)
 * 10) Call me racist, but these guys just seem alot cooler! Plus, they die without leaving a corpse. For that is the way of the Garo. Sincerely, Watcher.
 * 11) These guys are just cool. They also have quite a bit of mystery to them.(Darknut15 (talk) 22:55, 29 July 2009 (UTC))
 * 12) The mystery surrounding these guys makes them better in my eyes. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk)23:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) These guys are much harder to fight in mm P.S. don't kill the garo boss with a quarter heartGreen hat (talk) 00:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)Mr.Green hat
 * 14) The Garo are more fun to fight because they take more than one hit!User:LoafDaConvict
 * 15) Like Pamela's Father said, the Garo Link faced were just empty shells, meaning the real thing is likely far more powerful and durable and the Gerudo(except for Ganondorf and Nabooru, of course), like Loaf pretty much said are not nearly as strong as they look and, to be frank, they don't really look very strong to begin with.User:Redeadhunter
 * 16) I'm a pretty big fan of both of them, but I have to go with the Garo, just because they have a tag line. User3000
 * 17) Garo are cool cuz their living robes. I like killing living robes zeldafreak39
 * 18) They die without leaving a corpse. How much more awsome do you get?   Metroidhunter32  13:37, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) I only have to one word for these stylish spectres...AWSOMELY COOL!! oh... thats two.
 * 2) Swords and Ninja Awesomeness...Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaro!Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaro!
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Votes for Gerudo

 * 1) I Personally like the Gerudo better because they are a bigger challenge in having to sneak around them then defeat one of them in hand to hand combat. While the Garo are still fun to beat they get annoying when your trying to walk around the Ikana Canyon. --Ironknuckle1 (talk) 17:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) I have to vote for the Gerudo, but not for their Ocarina of Time appearance. They were much more fun in the Pirate's Fortress in Majora's Mask. I won't forget how fun it is to run around the Pirate's Fortress with the Stone Mask on laughing at them.  Baltro  [  talk  ·  edits  ] 19:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) This is Ganondorf's Race. I gotta Go for the bad guy of Bad guys! Zeerotytus(talk)
 * 4) Sorry, but my hands are tied. I have to vote for chicks who can fight. <3 Samus Aran <3 Diachronos (talk) 03:42, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Im gonna have to go with the Gerudo, they can be hard to sneak around, but theyre also mysterious, and damn good fun to fight =D plus, who doesnt love a chick that can fight? --DarthFart (talk) 15:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) The Gerudo are awesome sword wielding babes. What else could you ask for? XD 06:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)IchigoKitty (talk)
 * 7) i say gerudo they have swords and spears, the garo olny have swords 09:23 July 2009(UTC)User:DekuGod47
 * 8) Gerudo 2 reasons, 1 Ganondorf 2 The Gerudo is a living race. BetweenBlack&White
 * 9) Gerudo are awesome. Plus I've never played Majora's Mask.... User: DarkTriforce
 * 10) The Gerudo answer to noone, wearas the Garo come when called.--Gbadude3 (talk) 14:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) The desert girls... and ganondorf... are so much better... the garo are cool, but these gals have everything (and they give Link a membership card so he's technically one) Cybrwulf
 * 12) They are all ladies...and the people who gave us the great Ganondorf!!!And did i mention they are all girls...User:Longhorn Velez
 * 13) well hmmmf. i just like them better. and no i am not some sexiest pig, and say, "they are all woman! whats not to love?" no i will not go there. -- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 01:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) this is an easy decision, garo's are too easy to fight, gerudos were a bit harder--Xyoitsardianx
 * 15) The Gerudo are much more of a challange in the actual games. And the greatest and most famous villian from the zelda series is a Gerudo! And at the risk of sounding like a pervert they are all hot women with awesome fighting skills! (except Ganondorf) User:HeroofAwesome

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Garo are cool, but there is too much ambiguoty with them.
 * 2) DUDE. They're girls!(minus ganondorf)
 * 3) seriously, how can u not favor desert babes who can fight?! the Garo are cool, but c'mon. babes. in the desert. with skills. MAD SKILLS. the Gerudo totally pwn those ugly ducklings!!
 * 4) I've just always loved the ninja and thieving way of the Gerudo
 * 5) Who doesn't love a chick in a DESERT with skillz who u have 2 sneak around wearing a mask?
 * 6) I hated every moment Tatl started bleeping because a garo was around. The Gerudo look much cooler anyway and they appear in more games.
 * 7) Gerudos are waaaayyyyyy more of a challenge.


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Peanut Gallery
my own fight and im not sure which to vote for. on terms ok likeness i like them equely. but ganondorf is a gerudo and he is my favorit character. but on the other hand the garo inhabbit ikana whih is my favorite location. Oni Dark Link 20:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Oni, i will give you a hint: Highlight to see text: Vote for Garo --Shade Link (talk) 20:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Who did the Temple of Courage this week? It's different than usual, I can tell it wasn't done by Watcher or Mr.Fairy, unlike some weeks. Not that that's a bad thing, but I noticed that.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  22:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC) i think it was dialask Oni Dark Link 22:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I was substituting because the previous fight had been there for a while, and watcher/mr. fairy weren't around to change it. Dialask77 Ice Wizard   02:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * well it is different, but its not that bad of a thing. o and haven't seen you around Dialask in quite a while.-- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 13:55, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

yo xyz, i got nothing against you I don't want to cause any trouble. im just a guy who wants to help out zeldap edia becoz ivce played and finished all the games. i dont want to cause any anger for you but dude you need to chill out ive been looking through the archives and u seem to flip over almost everything. im not askin you to change or anything but just chill-the navi show

I say the exact same thing as navi show right now, minus the part of finishing every game--Shade Link (talk) 15:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Clearly none of you read my comment on this argument. Look at the Peanut Gallery for Keese vs. Miniblin.--MaloMart (talk) 15:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, i have read your comment when you posted it. I said what I just said because I want XYZ to accept that navi show and I have nothing against him, but just want him to chill out and stop getting so mad over such little things.--Shade Link (talk) 15:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

No comment.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  17:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow dude now I'm insulted. u could of at least said something agreeing or disagreeing and malomart I read the comment but if we let XYZ act all high aand mighty coz hes an admin and then use his position to bash randolm people over nothing this fight would have no purpose. Speaking of admins it still says keese vs miniblins on the front page for me.-The Navi Show
 * Alright, let's play along and say I act "high aand mighty coz i'm an admin". I've been like that since before I became an admin. You can take from that what you will. And if you have nothing against me, and all you're saying is that I should chill, why do you then proceed to say that I use my postition to bash random people? Seems to me like a morally correct person would have something against somebody like that.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  05:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You have a point there. I made a mistake about the admin thing. But I will admit I have something against people who do things you dislike in TOC(be it someone making a stupid comment or asking in the peanut gallery for help in an article. When you see it you tend to reply to it in a way that many consider offensive -The navi show

It would sure as heck help everyone if we just stop arguing!(realizing you have something against those who ask for help in articles, to let you know, I was new by then, so I didn't understand much about ToC.)--Shade Link (talk) 14:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Now that thats over with someone teach me how to make an account- the navi show
 * In the top right corner of any page on the wiki, there should be two green links, Log In and Create an Account. Click on Create an Account and you can go from there.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  16:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome for fixing those typos, Navi. In response to Shade Link, I also used to be stumped by ToC, for weeks, ithought there was a special Voting function. User:Redeadhunter

I've made account but I need help with something else. How do you change an IP adress on a mac my friend decided it would be hilarious to put through 12 votes for link the pig on my ip at home (I'm on vacation). Beacuse of that i got a permanent ban on it could some help me out? (btw thanks for fixing the typos redead hunter)---The navi show (talk) 11:10, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ummm, I'm not that knowledgeable about stuff like this, but I'm fairly certain you can't just change your IP address. If you could, there'd be absolutely no point to blocking somebody's IP. I could unblock you, maybe...is there any way you can prove it wasn't really you, or is it just a matter of trust at this point?  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  06:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

He probably has proof, but if it is matter of trust, we can trust him. If he tries it out, THEN you can block him.--Shade Link (talk) 13:10, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Well I sadly haven't memorized the IP adress and there is a way of changing it. However, its hard as hell. If you cant look back at the lord bulbo link the pig fight at the IP blocked there thats me. If that isnt possible give me your email and ill tell you my ip wen i get back home. Thanks for your help!---The navi show (talk) 19:43, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

If you mean you don't know your IP, there is a place called whatsmyIp.com or something. Wait for it to load and it will show up. If you mean you DO know, but want to send it via email, why not tell us right now? or at least put it on an admin's talk page? one sec, i think i can find it in the (this clue has been blurred to prevent too much viewing how)--Shade Link (talk) 14:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm kinda curious... Why hasn't there ever been a Navi vs. Tatl fight? Or has there been one, and I just missed it while looking through the archives? (I'm not suggesting it, and I don't have enough edits to suggest one anyway.. just wondering) User3000
 * Because it's never been supported when people have suggested it. It's considered too cliched and obvious, and not that interesting in the first place.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  21:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh. I thought it would've been a good one. ;[ User3000
 * well if you get over 50 mainspace edits then you can vote for ToC fights, and nominate ones yourself.-- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 02:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

it isnt letting me in my account damn. well the thing is shade, I don't know my IP and since im on vaca i hav a differnt ip. I meant wen i go back home I would email my ip-The navi show
 * its this: 59.93.12.95 10:58, -- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 10:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I already told him on his talk--Shade Link (talk) 13:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * lol i think ur talking about the ip im on. i alredy no that. im talking about my one back home im on vacation rite now lol-the navi show

You can try Forgot password and it will send you a new one or your old one after a while.--Shade Link (talk) 15:55, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

should we try out the new temple of courage lay out, next week? then we can finally put it to bed, and move on.-- C 2   14:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No. The entire reason we haven't done it yet is because nobody has the skills to make it look nice. As of now, what we've got is considered a rough draft.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  14:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * okay, the reason for my urgency is that the votes have now shifted to oppose, so yeah.....thats a problem....-- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 19:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * A problem for you perhaps, but not for everyone. (Great news for me for example!)Midna Rocks
 * no, it was desided for support, but people have kept on voting to make it oppose. so that is a problem.-- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 16:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry CC, but those that SUPPORT it are worried. The opposers are doing what can be effectively called a philibuster.  When the majority's ideas are delayed (typically via conversation, or taking the floor in the Senate's case) so that the votes can be shifted in the favor of the original loser during the delay.  Now, you know a little more about politics, and we are all enlightened.  But you CAN'T argue that, if every new vote is legitamate, then that means the people overall are changing their minds about the idea.  Or that newer/returning users think that it is a bad idea.  Dialask77  Ice Wizard  [[Image:Ice Sorceror.png|30px]] 18:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * that is what i was thinking. see the problem is i dont know if it was supposed to be closed or not, thats why im worried. but im assuming now that it was never intented to be closed.   honetsly, im abou to re-nig my vote and just go nutral on it.  and yes i am very well in the loop about politics and i don't like things to just sit there.  what worries me is that i dont know if it was intended to remain open and that all new votes count.  actually, now that i think about it, it is a failure to act and doesnt desreve my vote.  so, now seeing that nothing was ever going to happen, it's a bad idea. -- C  2  Phantom Zant.png 18:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Wait a minute, I count 18 1/2 votes on both sides. Have I miscounted? Or do signed votes count for more than I think? User:Redeadhunter
 * whoa, your right, ill fix that. WATCHER got it wrong! never thought i'd see the day! -- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 23:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Someone put in a late vote, the new fight started yesterday, so unless I still don't fully understand the rules, someone is trying to rig it User:ReDeadhunter

Wasn't it 19/18.5 the last time we had a match this close? Diachronos (talk) 03:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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Week 57: Keese vs. Miniblin
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5>Winner! "Keese!" LLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! We are proud to present the 57th week of the TEMPLE OF COURAGE! All right! And this week, due to the small but deadly nature of the combatants, so we would strongly advise to keep all small personal belongings, children, and midgets away from the arena.
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In the red corner, we have a bat-like creature. These glowing-eyed nuiscances fly around, sometimes setting themselves on fire, ambushing unsuspecting travelers, these are none other than the KEEEEEEEEEEESE!

And waiting in the purple corner, we have the devilish imps who stab their victims with pitchforks while making weird noises, give it up for the MINIBLIIIIIIIIIIIINS!

In a clash of Hyrule's small and mighty, we have two evil creatures filled with malice. Who shall stand, and who shall fall? That, my dear voters, is up to you! Our combatants are itching to battle it out, so LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMMMMMBLE! Yeah!
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Votes for Keese

 * 1) Miniblins are cool and everything, but I have to go with the Keese. They just happen to always hit you when you simply can't get hit, whereas the Miniblins are obviously there just to get in the way.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  19:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) These are both extremely annoying little buggers; however, the Miniblins' constant chittering noise (while informing you of their existence) is something to drive one insane. The Keese give off more of a malicious air and are generally more pleasing enemies (don't ask me why, I'm not sure myself). Light and Shadow (talk) 19:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Keese are some of the most classic enemies in the series, while Miniblins are highly annoying little foes. The Keese get my vote. Signed, The Recondite Sage.
 * 4) Voting for the Keese just so I can keep what few shreds of sanity are left after playing Wind Waker for hours and constantly hearing that nightmarish chattering. OMFG I'M STARTING TO HEAR IT IN MY HEAD!!! GET IT OUT GET IT OUT!!! Diachronos (talk) 21:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) That chirping sound the Miniblins dives me absolutely insane, and they're not dangerous at all. Ever. Keese are annoying, too, since they are so weak, but at least they occasionally can pose a threat, like when they are Ice Keese, or you are on a ledge or a cliff. Jedi Master Link
 * 6) I like Keese better. Plus, those little things made me want to take my ears off.(Darknut15 (talk) 03:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC))
 * 7) I still remember when I was in the lakebed temple in tp and was hanging from the clawshot over a big pit and a keese knocked me off and killed me. Grrr... DragonPhoenix13 (talk) 13:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Keese can survive a fire arrow and actually become stronger because of it. Miniblins can get squashed by a giant hammer. Where's your noises now? {{User:NintendoKitsune))
 * 9) Miniblins keep appearing EVERYWHERE! Besides, they can't set themselves on fire, set YOU on fire, encase you in ice, or fly... besides, keese are way cooler because of they're amazing silence. Well, unless you count wings flapping... GAR! Ah well... keese win anyway. User:Marou239
 * 10) They are really awesome for thier ability to cover themselves in ice or fire. Green hat (talk) 19:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Mr.Green hat
 * 11) If you're walking along a narrow path in the Oracle games and a Keese just happens to hit you, you're dead meat. Oddball 464 23:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Bah, the miniblin is a land-locked descendent of keese. Miniblin can be avoided by certain stratagies.  Keese, on the other hand, need to be slain before  you do anything else, or they will bug you as long as you are in the room. <font color="66FFFF">Dialask77  Ice Wizard  [[Image:Ice Sorceror.png|30px]] 00:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) These guys are hard to hit and seem to have no trouble hitting you. Take it from a guy who hunts in graveyards on slow days. User:Redeadhunter 18:00 21 July 2009
 * 2) My vote goes to the Keese. Ice Keese get me so many times, it gets annoying (but is still funny) The Midna 22:40 21 July 2009(talk)
 * 3) An original can never go stale. Plus, they get updated every so often to include even more annoyingness, what with their fire and ice carrying abilities. I never did like purchasing another Deku Shield when something so low level decided to engulf it in flames. Katamariqueen (talk) 18:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Come on, can any body honestly vote for those annoying, never ending crazy rodents whith pitch forks, or the awesome keese that have been in like every game? Seriously, guys vote for the classic.-User:Bulbin Slayer
 * 5) I never played Wind Waker, so I really don't know how annoying a miniblin is. I HAVE played a lot of others, and I definately know how annoying a fire keese to the deku sheild in dodongos cavern is so.... Cybrwulf
 * 6) Miniblins may be tougher, but the keese are just classic Zelda. I mean, whats a Zelda dungeon without a bunch of keese annoying the mess out of you?! User:HeroofAwesome
 * 7) Set the Keese on fire with Din's Fire and they go away, right? WRONG! They evolve into the awesome Fire Keese, whereas as the Miniblins just... die. My brother learned that the hard way. User:Nayru's Maiden
 * 8) The Keese are an extremely hard opponent to defeat when in the air. They have two different battle strategies that set them apart from the Miniblins whom only have one.  The Keese can have multiple elements associated to them (i.e. Fire, Ice) that make them a bigger threat.  Hands down the Keese. User:psjensen2886
 * 9) keese are to me not as annoying User:Young link
 * 10) Kesses come in diferent elemental types(Fire, Ice)so they better and badder than the miniblinUser:Longhorn Velez

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Keese are so much more stealthier. Besides they can use your own fire arrows against you. Ahhh! My Deku Shield!!!!
 * 2) Keese have been in more games. They're a Zelda staple.  If they don't win I will be very surprised.
 * 3) Keese are awesome. They even look hardcore. Besides, what the heck are Miniblins anyway?
 * 4) Keese. Those little bats are SOO annoying. Especially the ice ones. Those ones drove me NUTS. Oh noes, I'm on fire!! and my Deku shield burnt up! lol.
 * 5) My votes with Keese because even though they're annoying they're classic monsters.They have appeared in almost every game!
 * 6) My vote goes to Keese they are easy to beat but there better then miniblins.
 * 7) Definitely Keese. They look a lot cooler and are less annoying. I mean, the irritating sounds those Miniblins make Annoy the heck out of me! Also, I like cool bats A LOT more than demon monkey things.
 * 8) I just have to go with the classics. Ever noticed that Miniblins Look like Devil Sheep? Without Fleece? Oh the horror (Sarcasm)
 * 9) They'd just fly around and keep beating up those annoying pests until they die a gruesome death. Hooray!
 * 10) The Miniblins come at the worst of times and make me feel like ripping my controller up with my bare hands. The Keese, however, can be handled easily and don't keep on coming in swarms that never end. And if you think about it, it's funny how they're lit on fire (and yet don't scream in agony?).
 * 11) Keese are a lot cooler and have been in more Zelda games. And those noises the miniblins make drive me insane!
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Votes for Miniblin

 * 1) I like Moblins more than Keese, and Miniblins are close to Moblins. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 19:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) The noises they make combined with their tridents is amazing(ly annoying). <font face="verdana" size="2"> Baltro [  talk  ·  edits  ] 19:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Miniblins make me laugh, especially when I hit them with the Skull Hammer. Keese, however, just annoy me when I'm trying to climb onto a platform. Plus, Ice Keese MUST DIE!19:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)MaloMart (talk)
 * 4) Keese. They're enemies.  Kill them.  Miblins are not only enemies but can set you back to the begining of the fortress.  Miniblins actually manage to be both annoying and deadly.  Keese can't really pull off either.   Metroidhunter32  20:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) When they are hit by the boomerang, they make funny noises zeldafreak39
 * 6) They're more fun to kill :) --Nunovanhalen (talk) 21:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) They've earned a special place in my gaming nightmares. Portal-  Kombat
 * 8) In a contest of annoyingness and frustration, the Miniblins win hands down. You can kill Keese and they stay dead until you reenter the room, but these things just keep coming. Plus, they're sort of funny too. LapisScarab (talk) 14:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) This one's tough, but I gotta go with the Miniblins. They're both incredibly irritating, but the Miniblins just keep coming, which is bad news if you can't get to a safe place. User3000
 * 10) Keese, one hit, they're gone, and they can never respawn. These guys, on the other hand, just keep coming and coming and coming and coming, and they are so anoying! They win in my eyes. Sincerely, Watcher.
 * 11) Has anyone ever tried tossing all-purpose-bait at the miniblins? they completely ignore you and go for the food! Ha ha ha! Midna Rocks
 * 12) it should be noted that i was deeply conflicted by this vote. miniblins are bit more interesting as far as charchters go, (they are starved and apear to comunicate) but kesee can have a much more devastating impact on your charachter. (knocking you off ledges,destroying your woden sheild, distracting your target icon, and freezing you.) the only reason miniblins won my vote is because technichaly the miniblins are fighting regular kesee not the fire and ice varietys.(Foutlet (talk) 18:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC))
 * 13) So many deaths... WHY?!?!--Luroberto (talk) 21:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) "DALINK! DA LINK! TEH LINK!" if they are calling me "teh Link", I will gladly become their God. They can climb up walls, swarm and stab you with their pitch forks, and absolutely drive you (thanks for putting this in your journal, Lisa.) CRAZY!!!!(but not as much as this laptop does) Crazy? Crazy?! I was crazy once! they put me in a rubber room with rubber rats! those rubber rats drove me CRAZY!*repeats until fainting* rats= Miniblins. --Shade Link (talk) 23:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) These might possibly be the most evil things in the Zelda Universe for me. They drove me crazy at the Forsaken Fortress! They would never go away. Thus saying that, I love them! Mrs.MikauShadLink (talk) 17:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) Crazy? Crazy? I was crazy once! They put me in a rubber room with rubber Miniblins! *screams and passes out, then wakes back up* Sorry, I couldn't resist. Seriously now, these guys are cooler. They have pitchforks. And they make funny noises. XD --<font color=#00009C>Lisa <font color=#A76BCF>URAQT  Tetra.png 17:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) Keese are just target practice. These guys are pure annoyance. Did BH win some kind of contest to have his likeness appear in the game or something? You might ask why in the age eeh double ell I'm waiting for Miniblins then. Well, I don't have to follow your stupid logical rules. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  08:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) Miniblins, I love to hate them. Kopaka251 (talk) 03:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) Personally, I think it's more fun to kill Miniblins. Sure, they come out of nowhere and scare the shit out of you, but that's what makes them so much more enjoyable.  Keese on the other hand just fly at you, poke you, and there's the damage.  The Miniblins actually have a weapon to damage you with, plus, who doesn't love running away from those hell spawns?  Lordgeorge16 (talk) 10:51, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Miniblins are cooler and more deadly than keese! - Ponkool4
 * 2) Miniblins are dedlier and are easier to target than keese flying everywhere! - Link&Zelda
 * 3) MINIBLINS RULE! MWUHAHAHAHAHA!
 * 4) There sounds, it's everywhere!! So scary and so irritating!
 * 5) These guys are what made the Forsaken Fortress a Forsaken Nightmare, remember the room full of them? These nasty little buggers can climb walls and ceilings. Plus they are funny. Plus keese are only really cool when made out of ice (lol) or when they are in Twilight Princess...
 * 6) Da na. Da na. Da na. I like that sound for some reason.
 * 7) So fun to kill and strange sounds.


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Peanut Gallery
I was told by Mr.Fairy that neither he nor Watcher could do the ToC this week, but that Mr.Fairy contacted Watcher, who said he trusted me with the job. So... here it is! I hope you all like it! --<font color=#00009C>Lisa <font color=#A76BCF>URAQT
 * Nice Job! I didn't even know until I read the Peanut Gallery ;-) Turtleman579  22:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Are Miniblins mini versions of Moblins or Bokoblins? - Ponkool4(not a user)
 * I always assumed that they were related to the Moblins and actually this fight looks pretty level. Might end up with another tie.   Metroidhunter32  13:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I always thought they were mini Bokoblins. I actually never considered the possibility that they could be Moblins (d'oh). Hmm... User3000
 * I also thought they were like Moblins. Then again, they don't exactly look as piggish as the Moblins. I never thought of them being mini Bokoblins, but then again it could be possible. Maybe they're not like either or are like both a little bit. They all share that -blin ending, after all. Light and Shadow (talk) 01:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe they're offspring of Moblins and Bokoblins. o.0 User3000
 * More like an offshoot of the ReDead designed to drive you insane by being annoying instead of being terrifying. Diachronos (talk) 16:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I just called them mini-devils in my head before finding out the real name for them, then deciding that they were probably related to Bokoblins and Moblins, judging by the name. --<font color=#00009C>Lisa <font color=#A76BCF>URAQT  Tetra.png 17:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I always thought the Miniblin made more of a "Da na!" sound...But it doesn't matter. Mrs.MikauShadLink (talk) 17:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

17 votes, 4 half votes. 19 votes for both....I know nobody would be interested in this, but I am bored as heck, so I am trying to think of something.....--Shade Link (talk) 12:49, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Hm. It's interesting to see how each time, one side will pull ahead only to have the other side catch up for yet another perfect tie standing. I wonder how this'll end.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  20:01, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Something tells me that someone's rigged this temple of courage.pce-the navi show
 * Ha! Somebody's rigged this? If you'll notice, every single vote except for the 10 anonymous ones has been signed. That means that each of the 34 individual users voted on their own and those 34 votes happened to end up with 17 on each side. According to what I've seen of the page history, each anonymous vote was done one-at-a-time and by a different IP. Therefore those also just happened to end up in a tie. Learn a little about the Temple of Courage before saying it's rigged.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  23:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, it looks like we may have another tie on our hands. <font face="verdana" size="2"> Baltro [  talk  ·  edits  ] 23:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There are 3 days yet.  Metroidhunter32  23:37, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Three Days Tree Days *looks at Moon* DRTJR (talk) 00:54, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

XYZ kool ur nut sack-the navi show
 * I find it offensive when somebody says that something's rigged when it's not, because that means they indirectly think that the admins are being lazy and not picking up on it. And guess what? Keese are winning by 2 1/2 votes now. It's not rigged. Additionally, "nut sack" is not a term generally accepted around here. Just to let you know.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  18:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Somebody put the name up Bulbin slayer. Is that a real user? when i moved my mouse over slayer, it was not a link, when i moved it over Bulbin, it was just a link to Bulbin

Yup, it is not a real user, I just typed it up User:Bulbin slayer. the vote is not a real vote. I kinda DO think the votes are being rigged, cause somebody probably put it up there.--Shade Link (talk) 19:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

nvm about the rigging, but the Bulbin slayer name is fake, and they put it in the Keese, non anonymous section.--Shade Link (talk) 19:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

It's probably just some guy who has no idea how things work around here and just wrote some crazy name by mistake. I think let's just move him to the anonymous section User:Redeadhunter
 * actuall just a user who didnt know how it worked, i checked-- C 2  Phantom Zant.png 20:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The question is XYZ, why do you care so much? honestly I doubt that the admins of zeldapedia care half as much as yo do nitpicking at ever small detail. I mean honestly don't you have some better stuff to do then defend a possible mistake?-the navi show

Saw what you said the navi show. Go to the peanut gallery in archive 11 for Majora vs. Zant.--Shade Link (talk) 13:36, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Navi Show, I'd just like to point out that XYZ is an admin.--MaloMart (talk) 16:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

You are right, but Navi show's point is that he is sick of how XYZ kinda gets mad or offended by a lot. See this and scroll down a bit for details.--Shade Link (talk) 16:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I could post a huge response to what you two have said, but at this point I think it'd be a waste of time. If you don't like me, that's your problem. I'm not configuring my beliefs for a couple of people that don't like the way I do things around here.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  17:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Sheesh, what is with the ties? Fights are closer than they used to be... which is a good thing I suppose. <font color="66FFFF">Dialask77 Ice Wizard   16:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

It's been a week. Someone change the fight already. I can't do it 'cause I never did got no learnin'.--MaloMart (talk) 22:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I never said I never liked you, I was showing what Navi show meant, which was that his point was that you kinda get angry or offended too easily.--Shade Link (talk) 22:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if you didn't say you don't like me, by saying that you think I get angry or offended too easily, you're saying you don't like the way I deal with things, hence you don't like at least that portion of my personality. This doesn't mean you don't like me overall, I guess, but still, same terms apply. I'm not changing my view on life just to make you happy.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  22:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

What the heck? Did I say, mean, or even THINK about you changing that portion of your personality just to make ME happy? no, I didn't. I was merely pointing out what Navi show doesn't like how you act at times.Ok? *walks off mumbling, "sheesh"--Shade Link (talk) 23:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And yet you attempt to reinforce what the navi show was saying by unnecessarily putting a link to a particular conversation where you think I was overreacting? Seemed an awful lot to me like you agreed.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  01:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Meh, You just can't accept I never thought/said/meant that. NOW i don't like ya. and Yes, I will admit, you DO kinda overreact at most times.--Shade Link (talk) 01:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

' SILENCE!!! '. Stop fighting, you guys. No one wants to read it, so just agree to disagree.--MaloMart (talk) 04:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC) hey its tuesday. whats this stil doing here? <font color="66FFFF">Oni Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 11:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
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