Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage/Archive 23

Week 95: Hyrule Guards vs. Phantom Guardians
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 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| LLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! Zeldapedia once again brings you another adrenaline-filled, action-packed week of the TEMPLE OF COURAGE! With just five weeks to go until the big 100, this week's fight is between two groups of heavily armored and bewitched guardians! Without further ado, let's introduce our contestants!In the teal corner we have a group of guards who were formerly the Hylian King's loyal subjects. Brainwashed by Agahnim, they will charge or launch projectiles at anyone who gets in their way. Clad in armor the same color as our hero, THEY. ARE. THE HYRULE GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDS!!!
 * style="width: 100%; background: #DDDDDD; padding: 5px" colspan="6"| LLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! Zeldapedia once again brings you another adrenaline-filled, action-packed week of the TEMPLE OF COURAGE! With just five weeks to go until the big 100, this week's fight is between two groups of heavily armored and bewitched guardians! Without further ado, let's introduce our contestants!In the teal corner we have a group of guards who were formerly the Hylian King's loyal subjects. Brainwashed by Agahnim, they will charge or launch projectiles at anyone who gets in their way. Clad in armor the same color as our hero, THEY. ARE. THE HYRULE GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDS!!!

In the grey corner we have enemies that are so strong that Link needs a special sword just to hurt them! Forever guarding a mystic temple, these bad dudes will slice and dice you with their enormous swords if they spot you. Ghostly guards that get stronger with every rank, '''THEY. ARE. THE PHAAAAAAAAAAAANTOM GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDIANS!!!'''

With everyone safely seated in the stands so our combatants won't charge them, we will know which one of these vigliant soldiers will triumph. Who will take the gold and earn the favor of their masters? That, my dear voters, is up to you. Now that introductions are out of the way:

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUMBLE!!!
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Votes for Hyrule Guards

 * 1) I'm just sick and tired of Phantoms. The Hyrule Guards are a diverse enemy group with many cool battle tactics (although easier to beat than a snake on Whacking Day) and generally badass character design. But Phantoms...jeez, I hate those things by now... --Auron  Kaizer !  22:03, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) These guys, they are just plain epic with any other word or combination of words in any language being inadequate to describe them. Rock on, little soldier dudes.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 22:32, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) These guys are the real troopers. Plus, I'd rather kill a guy when I see them, not play some stealth thing that barely works. If I wanted stealth, maybe I'd play a game that is actually made for the stealth genre, just saying. -  McGillivray  227  22:50, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Good memories of pwning these n00bs like there's no tomorrow (which, as it seems, there was). -- Haru Mclean Namikaze Kana: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurīn
 * 5) There is a version of them with itty bitty daggers that don't even attack you. Now how awesome is that. I always thought those guys were good and only accidentally hurt you so I never would kill them. When a bad guy can convince you to just let the be, then they have something going for them.--Birdman5589 (talk) 23:01, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Agreed and agreed. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 23:03, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) We should give the Phantoms a break and return to this classic, staple enemy- at least for a handheld title.  Portal-  Kombat
 * 8) Phantoms can be cool sometimes and whatever, but the sheer annoyingness of having to run around avoiding them constantly is wearing.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:26, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) in four swords adventures its fun to just go in cross or horizontal formation or vertical formation and take out like an army of these guysDevdude (talk) 00:43, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) I'm Phantomed out for now.--DarkTriforce (talk) 01:02, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11)  After the last visit to the tower of spirits, to pissed off for them...  Super duh... Alpaca [[File:Doggie Mask.gif]] 02:06, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) Phantoms are really overused these days. These guys are the classics. Oddball 464 02:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) My favourite pastime is scaring them in wolf form.Also,phantoms are the worst enemies ever in multiplayer Spirit Tracks.--Farore.din.nayru (talk) 15:49, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) Phantoms are neat and all, but it gets annoying having to run every time one sees you. Plus, you don't have to work very hard to kill Hyrule Guards. --Lincas1[[File:Vaati (The Minish Cap).gif]] 00:08, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) Meep. --Meep Meep (talk) 14:19, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) I dont feel like pointing out why these are obviously better Oni  Dark  Link  16:21, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) i luv this idea. --Blades of Chaos (talk) 20:47, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) I'd say they're pretty much tied. The only reasons I chose this are that they A) are from A Link to the Past, my fav 2D LoZ game, and B) their heads look almost exactly like Bubble Man from Megaman 2. Haingi  1:41 PM, April 25, 2010 (GMT -8)
 * 19) I don't like Phantom guards at all The Answer (talk)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Phantoms are old news.
 * 2) Way too classic to be beaten, especially by Phantoms.
 * 3) I've never played Link to the Past, but this I do know about it; you finally get to kill those annoying as hell guards. They got my vote
 * 4) This is only my second vote ever (sorry about last week--I'M NEW!), but, having played Four Swords Adventures, these guys are much more enjoyable. The way their captains shout, "BACK! GO!", the way they pop up from the grass with crossbows, etc. 5:58 PM, April 22, 2010
 * 5) Phantoms are weird. These guys are the best. They could beat the phantoms anyday!


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Votes for Phantom Guardians

 * 1) Phantoms are way better than hyrule guards. Its fun doing the stealth stuff and dodging them. Plus hyrule guards just run at you with swords. A human 22:23, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Just got Spirit Tracks, and my opinion of these guys has changed completely. — Baltro  [  talk  ·  edits  ] 22:55, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) In my opinion, the Phantoms are one of the best ways they've incorporated stealth into Zelda. That being said, I vote for phantoms from Hourglass, not Spirit Tracks, for their introduction and how awesome it felt at the end when you cound FINALLY shank them with the (master reproduction) Sword. --ComeBackKing (talk) 23:01, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Well, these guys appear in two games, you can control them by having Zelda possess them, they have a really cool death animation (PH only), and yet the bile- yellow colored generic enemies are getting all the votes. Dawn Of A New Day (is cool)
 * 5) I really like the new phantom types in Spirit Tracks. J-man Zelda Fan (talk) 01:48, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Let me just say that both of these enemies totally @#!*% me off, but I found the Phantoms much cooler.-- MaloMart  ( talk ) Malo.png 02:01, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) They're invincible bad- @#!*%, why wouldn't I vote for them? Jioplip
 * 8) Haven't played its games, but for some reason I want to vote for Phantom. Jedimasterlink (talk) 02:59, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) Phantoms are more difficult to beat, more powerful and plus, Zelda was one (well, she possessed one or two anyway) so GO PHANTOMS! pink_link
 * 10) Every time a phantom popped up because I was running too fast or whatever, I had tons of fun running around them or going into a safe zone and shooting them with arrows. Plus phantoms look a lot cooler than the guards. DaraxKing Dodongo.png
 * 11) Phantoms: They're Hyrule Guards on steroids! They are bigger, tougher, and harder to kill. 'Nuff said. --Braelolk Ball & Chain Trooper (A Link to the Past).gif
 * 12) How could anyone not vote for Phantoms? This is sure to be one sided. Wait! They are losing? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?Ingo the great (talk) 02:23, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) This was a really close one for me, but the phantoms have a bit more varitey then the gurads. they are also much harder to beat, and I love messing with them (whipping them from a safe zone so they just turn around like, "huh?")--Hylianhero777 (talk) 19:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) Go Phantoms!!!!!!!!!! Zeldafan777
 * 15) Phantoms are annoying, but it's fun to trick them and make them look stupid. Also, controlling a Phantom is fun (in ST). -- Deku  Stick   Master   Fire Wizzrobe (The Minish Cap).gif
 * 16) Phantoms are epic. TheUltimateHokage88 (talk) 05:19, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) I <3d the warp phantoms. I liked the eerie NUNUNUUUUUUUUUUUUH!!! thing they played whenever it came. And when one died, they turned around and looked at you like "You......." (PH) The first time I killed one, I thot i hadnt killed it completely, and it was a swift phantom, so I ran 4 my life! Ahh, memories... --ZeldaQueen12
 * 18) Phantom Guardians are wicked! I'm always having fun by teasing them and running for my life and if they catch you... WHAMMO! Their swords make it act like a game over when they hit Link. Long live the Phantom Guardians --User:TazAJ
 * 19) These guys are waaaaaaaaaaaay cooler. Zeerotytus (talk)
 * 20) Ooooooooooh.......I'm a ghost.....err, wrong kind of phantom. Anyway, I really like Phantoms. T h e Midna Laughing.png ™  20:24, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) They're freaking ghost knight's of awesomeness!--Dark Arrow 162 (talk) 22:04, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22) They're so much fun to screw with but when they catch you, you pay dearly.  23:51, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 23) "CAN'T YOU SEE I'M WORKING." They have style and character, enough said. LunarChild (talk) 06:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 24) These guys brought me back to my first days of gaming. Using stealth that sometime worked and if it didnt i would scream bloody murder and run the heck to the nearest cover. /\/\r.6r33&#124;\&#124; &#124;-&#124;@T (talk) 11:18, April 25, 2010 (UTC)Mr.Green hat
 * 25) These guys have more of a scary factor to them. ---Tehmeganerd (talk) 16:42, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 26) They are pretty cool! In my opinion, on a strength scale of 1-10, I give them an 8, while I give Hyrulean Guards a 3. ---Pie 145

Anonymous votes

 * 1) The Phantoms were fun and challenging to sneak around, while the Hyrule Guards were just generic enemies that weren't really that memorable for me. -Isdrakthul
 * 2) Phantoms look better and Phantoms are more fun to play!!!^^
 * 3) Phantom hourglass is my fave game! Go Phantoms!!:D
 * 4) Phantoms are much more bad- @#!*%.
 * 5) These guys may be ridiculously annoying, however in ST you can possess one and fight with it. That makes up for it all.
 * 6) With the right music (something chase-like), the Lost at Sea station in Spirit Tracks was really funny. Of course you had to take your own music, but just imagine how they would run after you. Like a children cartoon or something.
 * 7) Hylian guards were frustrating. When you tried to swipe them aside in the beginning, they would reflect your attacks with they're outstretched swords, which is so stupid! This makes for some ultra-cheap moves. Phantom guards, on the other hand, are fun to control, led for some creative puzzles, aren't as cheap in combat AND they look better. Period.
 * 8) The phantoms are FUN, not like those boring guards. In Spirit Tracks I find it fun hitting them with the whip, while standing in a safe zone.
 * 9) Phantoms are scary, yet fun to mess with, I even had a group of phantoms chasing me once.
 * 10) Phantoms say funny things in Spirit Tracks.


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Peanut Gallery
Uh, who did the opening this week? A little underwhelming, don't you think?-- MaloMart ( talk )  22:35, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * (Its the dry heat effect. You let it sizzle and then the fight occurs when people come for the bacon. Juuuust watch...)
 * That made almost no sense. I, for one, think that a better introduction is needed. -Isdrakthul (67.102.173.233 00:15, April 20, 2010 (UTC))
 * AK made the opening, and said for any user, I would think he means registered, to make a new one if they feel like it. Just check the history when he made it. - McGillivray  227  01:14, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I took the liberty of making the introduction. It's not much, but I think it'll suffice for the week. Oddball 464 02:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)*
 * Good job! --Auron  Kaizer !  02:40, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Farore.din.nayru, the fight is about Hyrule Guards. You're thinking of Hyrulean Soldiers. -Isdrakthul (67.102.173.233 01:07, April 21, 2010 (UTC))
 * My thoughts exactly. --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:08, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

i would like to give the pros and cons of both sides. hyrulian guards actually can be killed, buti believe there was a newer version (in link's awakening?). the phantoms are actually anoying in the aspect that they can't be killed until you get the phantom sword, but once you do, you can have all sorts of fun killing them for all the moments you watsed sneaking past them. how does that sound (if you have more pros or cons (or both) post them here, okay?:))
 * Uhh, I really don't know why you bothered to do this, but in any case, you didn't mention the Phantoms' ST appearance.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  06:28, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * The cool music that accompanies th phantoms. u forgot th@. The earliest game I've actually played is WW. (I did watch my grandpa play OoT when i was probably somewhere in between 3 and 5 though.) --ZeldaQueen12
 * I just think the hyrule guards are boring.-Olivia.


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