Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage



Welcome to the Temple of Courage, where various characters from the Legend of Zelda series battle out on a semi-weekly basis! You, the people, are the deciding factors in these matches. Functionally, all of these battles are popularity contests and not "battles" as such. For instance, in a boss vs. boss fight, we suggest that you vote for the one you like the most rather than whether or not one enemy would beat another in a legit fight. This is only a suggestion, though.

You can suggest a fight or vote or comment on others on the suggestions sub-article.

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Week 80: Carpet Merchant vs. Gwonam
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5 color="black">Winner! "Undecided" LLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNN! For the 80th time, Zeldapedia Corps Group, Inc. brings you the TEMPLE. OF. COURAGE! And this week, we have two bearded old men who like to rip off and confuse people (try to guess which does what) and fly around on magic carpets for no apparent reason other than to perpetuate lame stereotypes. Draw your eyes to the center ring!
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In the brown corner is a bearded gentleman who floats around in a desert, tricking unsuspecting adventurers into paying a whole lot of money for what they believe to be the Lost Sword of D'olgo'th'th'th'th'th'th'th'th, but in truth are only completely optional remote controlled bombs. THIS. IS. THE CAAAAAAAAAAAAARPET MERCHANT!

In the pinkred-ish corner is a great fortune-teller(?) who dabbles in prophecy. Most Zelda fans deny his very existence; however, his random utterings have become the stuff of Internet memes. THIS. IS. GWOOOOOOOOOOONAM!

And now, to once and forever settle the dispute of who is the more hated character who flies a carpet to work, it is time. Say it with me now...SQUADALA, WWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'RE OFFFFFFFFF!!!
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Votes for Carpet Merchant

 * 1) I prefer weirdos that sit on a flying carpet in the middle of a sandstorm. Oh, an I also prefer real video games. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:37, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Merchants are better than people that speak random. Also, he looks like the greatest hippie of all hippies! - McGillivray227 '''(talk)
 * 3) As much as I hate this hippie, there is something disturbing about an old man in a purple bath robe and pink shower cap. --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:52, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) i absolutely hate what the philips cdi games have done to youtube plus this guy lets you practice sword stuff in MMDevdude (talk) 02:43, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) He's an actual Zelda Character. I do not tolerate cd-i.--RH 17:55, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) he can a bombuchu to blow the other guy up ! --Yorick141 (talk) 19:07, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) I remember when MM came out and and everyone was talking about hidden cheats in the game, everyone wanted to get the sword on the wall in his place. Needless to say it didn't work but its a fond Zelda memory. And oh yeah, is that his hair or his mustache? ComeBackKing
 * 8) I vote just cuz of the hair, I mean LOOK AT IT!  --Hydropanda
 * 9) Don't know the other guy is but i think the carpet Merchants cooler anyway. Zoma89
 * 10) I don't particularly like the Carpet Merchant, but at least he's from a real Zelda game. Ceiling Master (talk) 00:45, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) He has a funny looking afro...Zebras are Mean Ray Talk 2 me 22:22, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) I Have never even heard of the other guy, but the carpet Merchant is the man. Tj hoffman (talk) 06:57, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) "I am selling stuff, strange and rare, from all over the world to everybody" Oni Dark Link 20:53, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) I never knew this guy existed until years after my first playthrough!!!!! --Egos There (talk) 22:34, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) I like his 70's look!
 * 2) You wish you were as smart as him when you were selling stuff.
 * 3) Squadala!  Were off!  It is said only LINK can defeat ganon!  Ganon has seized the isle of koridai!  After a couple minutes of that on youtube I completely lost it.  Besides, the carpet merchant has....... A BIGGER FRICKEN CARPET!  GWONAM AND HIS CDI GAME ARE PURE EVIL!!!!!!! As you can clearly see I am still insane.
 * 4) I always liked his business management skills. You know. The ones you never had. And the fact that he's from one of the best games of all time makes him the obvious winner.
 * 5) I HATE this guy. But at least he's canon.
 * 6) I detest the CD-i series. Plus, MM is my favourite game. So I guess I'll vote for this guy.
 * 7) Bombs=win.
 * 8) I refuse to vote for any, I said ANY CHARACTER FROM THE CD-I's!!
 * 9) This guy was amazing. I never did find out if all his hair grew that way, or if his mustache grew that way. But the fact that he is in a REAL Zelda game makes him an epic winner!


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Votes for Gwonam

 * 1) It is written; only Dinner can defeat The Pit. And I hate that merchant so much; more than I do the record industry for actually charging people money for music made by Muse! Toilet paper should be free, or at the very least cheap. --Auron  Kaizer !  00:31, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Nothing, except perhaps King Harkinian, CATS, Error, and Miley Cyrus, can achieve the infamy that Gwonam inspires. He is one of the central pain inflicters of terrible video game lore. And what does the Carpet Merchant do? He overprices some stuff. No comparison really.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:45, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) It is written, only your sword and The Map are enough to find my house! YOU and your minions have seized the birds! Ah, Gwonam, we've had such fun together.-- MaloMart  ( talk ) Malo.png 01:03, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Old Man Afro there just over charges some Bombchu's, Gwonam take's you through an entire crappy game. Nuff said.--  C  2  / C C  01:08, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Gwonam inspires a debate within myself: exactly what is the nature of non-existence? Gwonam has achieved infamy despite the fact that his only real role is in a game that doesn't exist. SQUADALA Jedimasterlink (talk) 01:34, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) SQUADALA! And the Carpet guy scams you so badly its not even funny. plus, his hair is so big that i'm surprised he doesn't fall off the carpet. User:DekuStickMaster
 * 7) He says one of my favorite lines ever: "See how Harlequin captures Koridians?"  Portal-  Kombat
 * 8) Heh, I had soooooooooooo much fun watching the mindless YouTube poops. So stupid, yet somehow so hilarious. SQUADALA FTW, baby! —Lisa  URAQT  Tetra.png 03:16, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) This guy is obviously a beast. I mean come on? Squadala? Best line ever. User talk:Hello Doggy
 * 10) SQUADALA! *#*#*#enso8#*#*#* (talk)
 * 11) i've seen this guy enouph times in youtube poops to know thet he's better then a afro dude who sells u over priced bombachus. oh ya, and Squadala is epic. User talk:Doubleg2x
 * 12) THIS IS SCAMMER! TO THE LEFT! annoying is better than being cheated.-Toasty9001
 * 13) Really I wasn't sure who either of them are since i haven't played this game and haven't played OoT in 5 years. Now I remeber who the carpet merchant is and how he scammed me grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Plus this guy has a catchphrase I'm voting for him. Tabs34
 * 14) Only because I don't vote for con-men. Yowuza yadderhouse | meh 17:15, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) It is written that only toasters can defeat the birds! Besides, his quote "Here is a map: where do you wish to go?" backwards answers what Harkinian has for dinner: "What shall we eat now? Ham? Zee nice!" YouTube is awesome. Oh yeah, SQUADALA! --Majora4Prez (talk) 02:55, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) It is written, only BOMBS can defeat MAH BOI! Gwonam is Beast! and of course, you know what I have to end my comment with... SQUADALA!!!!!!!! Hylianhero777 (talk) 15:27, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) [Your majesty,][Bowser][and his][Koopalings][have seized][all the][foods][in the world.][It is written: Only][Dr. Rabbit] [can defeat][Bowser] Oddball 464 20:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) Wow! The CD-i games are so very overlooked just because of their crappy controls, but I enjoyed the characters and their wacky ways :) Gwonam's got my vote!Draconicus (talk) 03:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) SQUADALA! 'nuff said
 * 2) come on, Gwoman v.s a ugly guy, gwman should win .the only thing i got to say is SQUADALA!
 * 3) Gwonam may be strange and annoying, but at least he doesn't cheat people out of their hard-earned rupees.
 * 4) S-Q-U-A-D-A-L-A.


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Peanut Gallery
@XYZ: I think Old Man would be included in that listing Oni Dark Link 00:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I CAN"T TAKE IT ANYMORE! Once they get into my head I have to say them! Curse you for bringing this out, Gwonam! TOAST SPAGHETTI DINNER MAH BOI YOU MUST DIE ENCLOSED INSTRUCTION BOOK BOMBS MMMMM THIS IS ILLEGAL YOU KNOW THAT'S MAMA LUIGI TO YOU! Phew! It's all out now.-- MaloMart ( talk )  03:50, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * BOOUIGI! --Auron  Kaizer !  03:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I wonder how ashamed we'll all feel if/when a CD-i character wins the Temple of Courage.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  07:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * You voted for it. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 15:47, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * If he does, well whatever happens to ZP, I still have my wiki to fall back on--RH 17:59, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Careful now; it's so full of holes it might just collapse if you fall. --Auron  Kaizer !  19:07, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is the one thing I hate about MM using the same character models as OoT. At least one person always think we're talking about the character from the game we're not talking about about.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  23:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * The MM models have slightly more vertices most of the time though, thanks to the Expansion Pak...not that anyone but really OCD graphic freaks could tell the difference. --Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  23:26, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

@PK: Those smaller lines are often overlooked as the comedic gems that they are. Personally, my favorite Gwonam line (besides the obvious) is "At last, you have the vision to find my house!"-- MaloMart ( talk )  01:16, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

"...only completely optional remote controlled bombs." Actually, they're needed in the Spirit Temple, so they aren't completely optional. You just don't have to buy them. Whirligig (talk) 02:22, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, you can just throw a normal bomb at that rock. If you time it so the Bomb explodes when it's at the apex of its trajectory, you will hit the rock. Though I didn't try that until my third playthrough of the game... Jedimasterlink (talk) 04:17, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a room in Ganon's Castle (either the Spirit or Light section) that requires Bombchus.-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 05:12, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Those who hate on carpet merchant for his scam, at least the bombchus work, unlike the friggin' Giant's knife. Also, he's in a desert where he is the only one who sells them for miles, so of course he has the business sense to take advantage of the monopoly. People are gredy, get used to it.--RH 04:31, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Giant's Knife DOES work, in the same sense that an Xbox 360 works until it breaks down within a couple of months. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  04:34, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Days <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 12:07, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Has anyone actually played the CD-i games? They have very interesting characters, albeit a VERY crappy control scheme. Gwonam was just a classic character among them :)
 * Also, that comment above is win.Draconicus (talk) 04:41, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, yeah, if you think beating classic Zelda characters into lame stereotypes and introducing characters that make no sense is interesting.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  19:22, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, come on, Xykeb! That's what makes it so awesome :PDraconicus (talk) 20:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why are people compairing games that the characters are in? seems kind of unfair if u ask me.  Double   G   2x  16:34, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunetly we cant control the way people think (but one day I will!) <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:24, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe you should start with yourself? :P --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  01:03, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * No one can control the way people think except for Big Brother and the Pope.-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 01:18, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


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Week 79: Bow-Wow vs. Deku Baba
{| style ="width: 100%;" LLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! The Christmas rush is over and after a fierce battle for the Christmas crown (Maybe?) we bring you the last fight in the Temple of Courage in the year 2009. To cap it off, we've got a battle of two fierce-looking monsters who would surely overrun and consume the entire populace, were they not confined to one location with only a possibility for very short-range attacks! Draw your eyes to the center ring!
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In the grey corner is a cannon-ball like creature bound by a leash of chain. Beyond the menacing façade of this creature is a gentle, loyal being who defends his master fiercely! A vegetarian and hater of monkeys...THIS. IS. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW-WOOOOOOOOW!

In the blue corner is a fearsome plant that eats whatever comes in its way. Once defeated, its parts may be used as helpful tools. A dangerous plant to be sure, and always out looking for fresh meat, if they are stupid enough to come within its short reach...THIS. IS. DEEEEEEEEEEKU BABAAAAAAA!!!

Though their reach may be compromised, there is still a chance that they can escape from the ring and attack you, our faithful audience! Now you know what the liability waiver you signed at the entrance to the Temple was for! Oh, and before too many people get hurt, LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMBLE!
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Votes for Bow-Wow

 * 1) You know something, Bow-Wow was pretty cool. Wouldn't mind having him as my partner for the entirety of the game at all. And his reaction speed is killer. Deku Babas sure are pushovers. If this were a real fight (although I typically do not condone people judging from that) Bow-Wow would kill all Deku Babas in the worlds before they could read some kind of long book of some kind. Yippee yo, yippee yay. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  01:18, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) A brain-dead sea monkey can kill a Deku Baba.--  C  2  / C C  01:22, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) The fact that they were invulnerable in ALttP was epic, and the fact that the Bow-Wow in LA is invulnerable AND ON YOUR SIDE is even more epic. Deku Babas, on the other hand, are the epitome of non-epicness.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  01:24, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) The most Deku Babas ever did for me was give me some worthless item after killing them in one of two sword slashes. Bow-Wows gave me some funny memories...don't ask. Jedimasterlink (talk) 01:25, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Simply put: Much cooler. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 01:26, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) I like him more, and would fetch the Deku Baba after the Deku Baba was uprooted.  The Midna  ( talk )  Midna Laughing.png 03:45, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) I liked Chain Chomp ever since Mario 64, so I have to side with it.  Portal-  Kombat
 * 8) We all knew this would be one-sided. Oh well. Bow-Wow an awesome character to have with you in LA. He made me wish I could get him again after I finished Bottle Grotto. The Flying Rooster falls in the same category.-- MaloMart  ( talk ) Malo.png 08:15, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) Seriously though he's invincible. Deku Baba's die in two sword strikes. Bow Wow is the strongest possible creature in the Zelda (and Mario) Universe <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 14:51, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) He is the Zelda embodiment of a Chain Chomp, one of my favorite enemies from the whole Mario universe. How could I not vote for him? Also, his name is so cool. Bow-Wow! Ceiling Master (talk) 16:43, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) Deku Babas are just wierd. They're so easy to defeat. Plus, all they give you is ammunition for a weapon that you use for about 5 seconds. (aka the slingshot) -- Bk archer 97 20:27, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) Bow-wow....Awesomeness in a impervious metal shell and a slighty creepy  'Hi, Im going to kill you grin'.Zoma89
 * 13) I love Bow-bow and Deku Baba he's just simple. User:Chaos Omega
 * 14) Bow-wow is friendly and cool. He helps against enemies. Deku babas are annoying. --Nunovanhalen (talk) 22:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) I'm for Bow-wow because of three things: one, it's a wild iron creature of death (need I say more?). two, you can carry him around on your adventures and IT ATTACKKS FOR YOU!!!!!! This makes it easier to battle and it even eats flowers so you can advance to bottle grotto (i've played LA before). third, one of the easiest monsters in WW is the deku baba (I even took a picture from a safe distance from this dude, and that can take a while with enemies). so I say Bow-Wow will epically win! --[(User:Orangecraz|Orangecraz)] [(user talk:Orangecraz|talk)] time uncomformed, December 30, 2009
 * 16) I've played LA a million times, and Bow-wow is awesome. He eats your enemies! What's not to like? Sir Real
 * 17) i like deku baba more but bow wow has got a win coming fooster
 * 18) Bow-wow has a chain on it. Deku-Baba is rooted to the ground. I think that says a bit. - McGillivray227

Anonymous votes

 * 1) These things really sucked in A Link to the Past, but the one in Link's Awakening was totally awesome.  I wanted to keep him for the whole game cause he was an awesome ally, and pretty cute for a metal ball on a chain.
 * 2) Nature cant beat mechanisation, neither can it bite through steel.
 * 3) Bow-wows are a much bigger threat to Link's life.. I always find it hard to pass them, even though it shouldn't be.
 * 4) I always liked the chain chomps from Mario. And well, you take it from  there.
 * 5) There invunerable and a pain in the neck so I'd choose them over the deku babas because there just annoying nothing else. Also who dosent like a round ball tied to a chain? Huh exactly.
 * 6) Plant versus Big Metal Ball. I think the choice is obvious.
 * 7) whenever i played A Link to the Past, i some how managed to never make to the point in the game with these guys, but i've played almost every mario game there ever was and every time chain chomps were in a game they were AWESOME!
 * 8) Bow-wows look like chain chomps from mario. That's pretty cool.
 * 9) Bow-wow is very cool.
 * 10) Bow wow. He kills things in one hit, and was part of a game with tons of Mario tie-ins. I vote for him.
 * 11)  I didn't really like the deku babas that much at all, and bow-wows seem really cool.  The deku babas were just scavengers who would attack you when you were distracted while the bow-wows will actually get you with their skill.


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Votes for Deku Baba

 * 1) The most awesome plant in the world to begin with, the venus fly trap, has super-evolved!--RH 03:03, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) The Bow Wow is just a cheap copy of the Chain Chomps from Mario, so I will vote for the Deku Baba.--Grax638 (talk) 04:38, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) As much as I like the Mario universe, the biggest drawback of Link's Awakening for me was there being too many cameos. So I'm going to have to side with the plant that could easily be eaten by Bow-Wow. --Birdman5589 (talk) 05:15, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Decapitation is cool.Solar flute (talk) 21:53, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) The chomp may be winning, but I'm going with ambush plant. I just like Deku Baba's. Sincerely, Watcher.
 * 6) I vote for Deku Baba only because I don't know much about the Bow-Wow. Sam samurai
 * 7) The Deku Baba brings back fond memories of when I first played OoT. Oddball 464 20:32, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Plants are nice. Evil plants are cool. Evil plants with sharp teeth are awesome. User:Pkmns (talk)
 * 9) Come on, an enemy from OoT versus the links awakening. This is a real enemy not some kind of cameo. --Green Courage 18:26, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) Bow-Wow was better in Mario, and I love Ocarina of Time. Plus the Deku Baba have a ton of cousin Deku and don't forget Diababa from Twilight Princess. That by itself wins my vote. User:HeroofAwesome
 * 11) I vote Deku Baba because Deku Sticks are good weapons. User:DekuStickMaster
 * 12) I vote for deku baba cuz the bow-wow reminds me of a chain chomp from super mario and I hate super mario so much :( --Yorick141 (talk) 21:05, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) It appears all my ZP pals are against me on this one. I for one don't appreciate copied enemies, even on Zelda's standard. Heh, Nintendo messed up in some places. Well I do support the Deku Stick, and anybody like using glitches? I know I do. Well the deku stick, being the awesome weapon that it is, can be used with glitches to turn invincible and invisible. I don't know about you but that's pretty cool. -- <FONT COLOR="orange">⽩㤖㒾</FONT> <FONT COLOR="blue">-</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#FF8000">㑻</FONT>  23:17, January 1, 2010 (UTC), your man of the world.
 * 14) well oot was one of the first games i played ive played through it with and without help about 8 times and this enemy is a quick way to get deku sticks and deku nuts and also in twilight princess the red ones can run around if u hit them near the baseDevdude (talk)
 * 15) You saw the abriged series. I Got A Stick.The Shadow Monarch 125 (talk) 17:02, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) Deku Babas are classics man J-man Zelda Fan
 * 17) Wind Waker villains are so better Zebras are Mean Ray Talk 2 me 20:09, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) ITS EATING ME!!!!!  GET IT OFF ME!!!!!!
 * 2) Glomp! oh, nom nom..
 * 3) I agree with Birdman5589's vote, although Deku Babas aren't a much better opponent.
 * 4) Okay. Just think about this for a second. The "Bow-Wow" is a big ball with teeth on a chain. All it does is chomp at you until you get away. The Deku baba is a giant, man-eating, slobbering, flower of DOOM! And, in certain variations, it can have its head cut off and still bounce around and kill you. If you've played Spirit Tracks, the Deku Baba are one of the hardest enemies in the game. So yeah I'm voting for the Deku Baba.
 * 5) Bow-Wow is a Mario copy.And I like plant enemies.
 * 6) Like everyone else said, Bow-wow looks like a Chain Chomp Ripoff. I've got about halfway through the Deku Tree in OOT, and I must've got hit about five times by these guys (I suck at OOT). Bottom Line is, Deku Babas FTW. ...Even if Bow-wow would totally own the Deku Baba in a fight... And it's going to own the Deku Baba in the votes... Oh yeah, to that guy who posted that thing about taking a photo of this guy from a safe distance, those are BOKO Babas, not DEKU Babas.
 * 7) Bow wow is just a ripoff of my favorite Mario 64 enemy. I remember Wind Waker when Babas first got the ability to actually bite into you. How I hated them
 * 8) the carnivorous plants are underrated. and not a cameo. never really liked the chain chomps
 * 9) Lets hear it for original Zelda content!
 * 10) I hate Deku Babas ,but bow-bow is a super mario character
 * 11) I like Deku Babas ,their like a deadlier version of my favorite plant. Plus their not a metal ball that only jumps around.
 * 12) I don't think i've ever fought a deku baba, but spirit tracks' fire babas  are pretty pwnful. I mean, the4 immortal whip can't even beat them!
 * 13) HE is cool Phantom Zelda


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Peanut Gallery
Jedi, why did Bom-Wow give you funny memories? :P-- C  2  / C C  01:28, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * CC, what is it about you and asking questions when people ask you not to ask? I ask you. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  01:30, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, reverse psychology, it never fails, please don't try to prove me wrong.--RH 03:07, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I just like to push people's buttons. And if reverse psychology never fails to not work in this universe what about an exact opposite parrel universe? Think about it.-- C  2  / C C  03:10, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it seems I have been bested in the art of messing with peoples' heads.--RH 15:45, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't know what a "parrel universe" is either, huh? --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  15:49, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, since we cannot be sure whether such a universe even exists, there is no proof there there are circumstances under which reverse psychology fails to achieve its desired effect. As such, RH's original conclusion is still valid. Jedimasterlink (talk) 20:32, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * I never disproved his statement, just offered up a point of conjecture saying that he might not be right. So that means he isn't wrong, just not totally right....whitch makes him wrong, unless he can prove to the entire scientific comminuty as a whole that it is totally immpossible to have such a parrel universe. -- C  2  / C C  15:37, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Conversely, one could say that your conjecture is invalid until you can definitively prove that such a parallel universe exists and that said universe functions with rules that are the opposite of ours. Additionally, even if such a universe exists, there is no guarantee that there is any form of life there, meaning that we can't be sure that there are psyches insurmountable to reverse psychology. =P Jedimasterlink (talk) 20:06, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * In essence if one parrel universe is found, then that mean's there is infinite parrel universe's and that mean's that there is a 100% chance that there is a parrel universe out there were reverse phsycology doesn't work but a 100% chance that it does work in a parrel universe. So, if this is true then he is wrong, completely, but right completely and so is every other theory/law/whatever is right but wrong.-- C  2  / C C  13:50, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. However, since that statement is conditional--it depends on us finding a parallel universe--how can we be sure that it can be verified? Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:45, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * We can be 100% certain by finding a parrel universe, interacting with it's people(if they are human's) and comparing our histories and their law's of physics.-- C  2  / C C  22:48, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * And how do you propose we find this universe and make contact with its inhabitants? Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:51, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * It has been theorized that the parrel universe(s) are connected through space and that it is physically possible to send a ship out, going fast-than-light for many year's would eventually happen cross over to another universe. Or you develope trans-dimmenstional travel.-- C  2  / C C  22:55, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * This is worse than when I started that Malo-Talo Gender confusion conspiracy--RH 03:29, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, for once, something from Twilight princess is losing! --User:Ar7washereTalk
 * Deku Babas also appear (and more so) in Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 17:55, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but aren't they harder to defeat in those 2 games? -- Bk archer 97 20:30, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * ...What? Deku Babas aren't exclusive to TP by any means whatsoever. You could say something from TP is losing if Keese, which have been in nearly every game in the series, are losing in a ToC fight, but that logic is so stretched that it hardly applies to the situation.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  21:48, December 28, 2009 (UTC) The dekue baba is weird. phantom zelda
 * I know, I'm not an idiot! But, if you look at the artwork, you can clearly tell that this is the TP version of the Deku Baba!--User:Ar7washereTalk
 * I don't mean to be condescending, but if if you look at the image URL, it says it's the OoT/MM version. Just saying. Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:49, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like the OoT/MM version too.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  23:48, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * There was a Twilight Princess image up but Auron replaced it so both pictures would be art work <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 23:52, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Is that why? I don't get why that matters, many fights have mixed artwork and 3D Models. My only guess was for a change of pace, or something. Sorry to talk about you behind your back, AK it's a nasty habit of mine.--RH 18:01, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * If they do, it's probably because one of the characters/enemies/bosses/etc. has no artwork. Artwork should always be used before in-game models if there is any.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:27, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * I prefer the ol fliping the coin method <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 13:02, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Why is "THIS" in italics and has a random ' next to it? Ceiling Master (talk) 15:56, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * They must've meant to make it bold, but forgot to add the last apostrophe. To make it bold, you surround it with three apostrophes on either side. Like this would make this. They must've forgotten or overlooked it, and instead put two apostrophes on one side, making it italicized and have an extra apostrophe- because two apostrophes like this makes this. Does it make sense? And something like that you can just change yourself, you don't have to worry about an admin doing it or not for mere grammatical or code mess-ups. -- <FONT COLOR="orange">⽩㤖㒾</FONT> <FONT COLOR="blue">-</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#FF8000">㑻</FONT>  17:03, January 2, 2010 (UTC), your man of the world.
 * There was some kind of ethereal symbolism there that apparently was lost on most people, so no point in keeping it. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  22:29, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


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Week 78: Chancellor Cole vs. Zant
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5 color="black">Winner! "Zant!" 19.5<27.5 LLLLLLLADIES AND GENNNNNNNTLEMENNNNN!!! The holidays are coming on and in honor of Christmas, we have a special presentation for you! (Huh, what's that you say? It's NOT Christmas-related at all? ...I hate this job.) Erm, what I mean is, it's a perfectly normal (yet awesome) battle between two secondary antagonists in Zelda mythos, famous for disguising their true appearance. They are both Number 2, but tonight (or, one week from now approximately) one of them will walk away as Number 1! The halftime show consists of performances by other Number 2s such as Art Garfunkel, Captain Kirk and...Link. Stupid Gamespot character battle. So yeah, DRAW YOUR EYES ONTO, ERR, TO THE CENTER RING!
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In the green corner is a relative newcomer to the secondary antagonist scene, but he's no slouch. A man who loves hats so much that he wears not only one, but two of them! However, this is only to hide his true appearance. A smooth-talking bureaucrat with an agenda, THIS. IS. CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANCELLOR COOOOOOOOOOLE!!!

In the grey corner is the usurper King of Twilight who fooled everyone into believing he was as calm and calculative as Cole over there until he went insaner than a Montana. Deprived of his meds for a week, you can pretty much bet that he is in a bloodthirsty mood tonight! THIS. IS. ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT!

Make sure to get some off-brand snacks in the concession stand during the halftime show. And now, LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMBLLLLLLLE!
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Votes for Chancellor Cole

 * 1) Right from the start you know he's up to no-good. But that point is not required as he wears two top hats. Instant victory right there ladies and gentlemen. User:NotaNinja
 * 2) Is he a leperchaun? SCORE! ShadowDialga (talk)
 * 3) The way they tried to dump a last-minute personality change on Zant was pathetic. Both personalities were cool in their own way, but not on the same character with absolutely no transition time whatsoever. Cole was errrr, "interesting" at best, but in the end I couldn't find anything I disliked about him, which is more than I can say for Zant.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  06:18, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) He's kind of like the anti zant. Zant tried to have a deep story, confirmed race, motive and backround while cole was just...cole. I mean what is he anyway? The game completely ignores anything and everything about him. The most we can gather from him is that he calls Malladus majesty. Wow this sounds like im giving out about cole now. Im trying to say mysterious is better then half attempted. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 16:18, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) I didn't know which way to go but when I went back and looked at the picture where he first shows his horns it became an easy choice. --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:39, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) I haven't actually played Spirit Tracks, but having seen how Zant fails as a character, I have a better impression of Cole. Jedimasterlink (talk) 18:50, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) I love spirit tracks, and cole is just awesome. He knows Phantom Zelda's one weakness (magic rats) and he wears TWO top hats. One top hat is cool enough, but TWO!!!!--Hylianhero777 (talk) 15:34, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Zant is crazy. He really creeps me out when he does all that yelling and starts jumping around like a maniac. He's kinda cool, but where are his demonic horns? Huh?  User:Ceiling Master | User talk:Ceiling Master 00:37, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) Cole is loyal to the end. blt33
 * 10) I like Zant and Cole, but Cole did so much better at setting himself up as the villain. The way he acts makes you want to beat him to death with his own hats before you even find out he's the villain, and he plays the part pretty well after that (albeit a lack of screentime; Zant's got him beat there). Plus I love the way his eyes look when he gets "excited" (or whatever the f*** you wanna call it), although they look a little too funny for me to take him seriously most of the time. And he's got probably one of the most badass henchmen of the series; even Ganondorf never found a lackey like Byrne. Diachronos (talk)
 * 11) Cole has TWO HATS!!! User:Ar7washere (talk) 20:20, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) Cole sends some of hes mouses at zant and takes him over. --Yorick141 (talk) 21:23, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) Well, I was going to vote for Zant, but, hey, I don't want to be biased, and Cole is cool. Geddit? Cole and cool? Uh, yeah, anyway...-- Deku  tulla  ZM  01:09, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) I am playing ST right now, so I like Cole better Mr kmil [[File:Spin Attack (A Link to the Past).gif]] 18:54, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) I think he is very funny and Zant is just ugly... This was an easy one. now you expect my name, what was it again... oh yeah!  Ray Talk 2 me 18:23, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) He looks like a little leprachon. <3 --Luroberto (talk) 00:23, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Zant is insane. Chancellor Cole is (or at least looks) more insane.
 * 2) Some Zant people say that Cole looks like a drunk leprechaun, or a person who just saw a donut. He does! <---My reason to vote for him
 * 3) I love Spirit Tracks and Chancellor Cole, he's insane! he looks like he shoots himself for fun! So Cole you rock!
 * 4) Well, I still have to get Spirit Tracks, but Coles master plan(I HAVE seen TONS of Spirit track videos... well up to the snow realm at least...)was WAY better then Zants. Plus in Spirit Tracks, you ride a train... that (and I can't tell you how much)is WAY better than walking/rolling/running(as a wolf).
 * 5) Cole was annoying to the extreme in the 1st phase of the Malladus battle. Zant's fight was just recycled from the previous ones. Besides, he doesn't suddenly change for the worse like Zant.
 * 6) Why I must say this is PREPOSTEROUS, Cole is gentleman. In fact he qualifies as a double gentlemen with his two toppers! Zant is a blasphemous blubbering belligerent bastardy bibulous buffoon!
 * 7) I have to admit, up till now I was all for Zant, but I realized that cole is an amazingly smart interesting and funny bad guy. He is so sinister it creepy, though i admit zant is by far deeper, cole is just a better bad guy (They are almost even)


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Votes for Zant

 * 1) For the record, Cole is a pretty good and original villain. But c'mon, Zant is a badass that totally outdoes Ganondorf as TP's villain. In fact, they could have easily come up with a better way to give Zant his power and not steal his spotlight away with a dumb last-minute fanservice thing. Ah well, Zant was still extremely cool right up until the end of the game. Oh, and Cole looks like he's seen a tasty donut or something in his artwork. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  04:56, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Zant was hilarious, with his insane behavior and all. Sam samurai
 * 3) Zant is pretty freaky but at the same time awsome. I meen he can take out and control an entire kingdom in the blink of an eye when hes calm. And when he goes crazy he can just bulldoze in his fenzy through anything thrown at him. No offense to ST, But from what it sounds like, Cole is like Agahnim. He has to go get in the in the confidence of the king or such then do his evil deeds. Zant took the initiative. Zoma89 8:06, December 21, 2009
 * 4) Zant is problably one of the coolest boss fights in the series, and he was also a nice villain. Don´t know much about Cole tho. --The Gerudo Guy (talk) 15:33, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) "Surrendor or die. Oh yes, a question for all the people of the land. Life or death?"~Zant. Does he need to say more?  The   Ex terminator  16:08, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Almost as hardcore as Dirty Harry or Indiana Jones. With the exception of the fact neither of them get's their cool from some fat 40 year-old magician.--  C  2  / C C  16:16, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Zant shouldn't even count as a secondary villian. It was cool that they brought Gananodorf back, but I think Zant stole a lot of his thunder. Some people complain about Zant's personality switch but if you think about it, that really shows how insane and warped he was. Zant for the win! User:HeroofAwesome
 * 8) Honestly it would take too long to explain this. Nothing against Cole, I just like Zant better.-- Lapis  Scarab  20:07, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) What is there to say? Even at first glance, Zant is a much cooler villain! --Brittonshayne (talk) 02:36, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) I really like Chancellor Cole as a villain... I think he's even better than Ganon/Ganondorf! Although Zant was being controlled by Ganon, he was a good villain. Forget about how Ganondorf ruined the end of Twilight Princess- Zant really got to show his potential during one of the early cutscenes and a sequence right before the fourth boss. I've yet to play Spirit Tracks, but I look forwards to it.  Portal-  Kombat
 * 11) Blue_Stalfos_(A_Link_to_the_Past).gifellor Cole looks like a demonic leprechaun, while Zant looks like a mutated fish. Even though Cole looks cooler, Zant has enough power to knock his little green butt all the way to Termina! --Lincas1 (talk) 20:44, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) Definitely Zant.I mean,come on his helmet?Beyond awesomeness.And anyway,I am of the opinion that Link+Train=PHAIL.*~farore.din.nayru~*
 * 13) He beat Ganondorf's record of taking over Hyrule in seven years with 12 seconds--RH 22:06, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) I don't know much about Cole, but Zant = EPIC WIN. Pika with a Sword and Shield
 * 15) people ALWAYS vote for the strongest. GO ZANT --*#*#*#enso8#*#*#* (talk) 17:02, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) I'd hate to vote for something from Twilight Princess, but I've never got a chance to know Cole as a character. Zant on the other hand had a good backstory, even if it did make him completely insane. Oddball 464 19:18, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) While Cole is certainly one bad dude, I have to go with Zant. His backstory, his psychotic nature, and his - for the lack of a better word - kickass character design, all come together to create what is easily the most haunting Zelda villain to date.  -- Rare Addict (talk) 21: 27, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) I was just so satisfied hearing his neck snap 0_0  Solar flute (talk) 05:16, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) I loved Zant. He was cool, and fearsome. When they decided to 180 flip him, I was all: "Oh my frigging god, this is AWESOME!" Since then, I've been practicing his sword fight style. He isn't only my favorite character in this voting, he also is my favorite puppet to be thrown away. (Agahnim, Skull kid, Cole) Plus, the way he breaks his neck is epic.
 * 2) In a previous fight,   i ranted on the fact that many people vote for characters just because they are from twilight princess, but i have to vote for zant on this one.  Cole's stupid.  He looks like a drunk leprachaun in my opinion.
 * 3) Zant is a beast, cole looks like a freaking st. patricks day drunk who pees on front lawns
 * 4) Zant is so AWESOME he will blast the face of the green guy
 * 5) I would vote for Zant because you never really get to fight Cole in Spirit Tracks. Zant is the  best puppet EVER!
 * 6) I didn't like how he went completely insane, but he is nevertheless one of my favorite Zelda villains.
 * 7) He is AWESOME and he reminds me of Agahmim kinda.
 * 8) He was a pretty cool boos. He is my favorite.
 * 9) Zant is cold and calculating (until he breaks) and cole looks like a leprechaun
 * 10) I've never played Spirit Tracks and never heard of Chancellor Cole until now so I'll have to go with Zant.
 * 11) Zant all the way. Honestly, I just never thought of Cole as a credible villain. He's basically nothing more than a servant for Malladus. Whereas Zant was a schizophrenic psychopath. Sure, Ganondorf was given credit for being behind everything in TP, but as far as I'm concerned, Zant WAS the villain of TP.
 * 12) zant is crazy, but hes winning so im voting for him so go zant i think..
 * 13) A Possesed Darkness creature against a horned leuphercan? Seriously... - Yoda
 * 14) Zant is a deep character who is creepy, he just has this dark aurora around him. Despite what some say, I kinda like the character change, he goes crazy with power and this just makes for a more wholesome character
 * 15) Zant was a puppet but a scary puppet nevertheless. Better than the weird double hat wearing leprechaun.
 * 16) Zant was definitely better, he had this whole calm and confident vale on first that let him walk through anything because his enemies would be too intimidated to do anything.
 * 17) Zant ofcourse! When he gets insane, your dead meat!
 * 18) Cole is A LEPHRECHAUN! A LEPRECHAUN! SERIOUSLY! That is why Zant gets my vote.
 * 19) Zant is just plain cool. He's got power, two castles, and way too much time of his hands. Never even heard of the other guy


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Peanut Gallery
The problem with this match is that people have had time to get to know Zant, while chancellor cole is relatively new. Take me for example, I don't know Cole because I am waiting to get Spirit Tracks via Christmas Present.

I wouldn't say it's entirely un-Christmas related. Cole could pass for one of Santa's elves.-- MaloMart ( talk )  05:22, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Just be quiet and vote :P --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  05:24, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * I pledged not to vote when i haven't played both games, so I won't be able to vote until Friday at least.-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 05:51, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * You could just do like everybody else does and vote for the game you have played while claiming the other game sucks. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  05:52, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * But how can he do that since it doesn't have a Zelda II or Majoria's Mask character :P --Birdman5589 (talk) 16:53, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you sir perhaps insulting Majora's Mask?-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 20:42, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, as I refuse to insult a game I have yet to finish. --Birdman5589 (talk) 05:13, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Im not going to vote because, well, theyre both freaks75.63.54.197 15:09, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Then don´t vote!! There´s no need to announce something that you won´t do at all :P.--The Gerudo Guy (talk) 17:25, December 21, 2009 (UTC) The Gerudo Guy Wondering what present should I leave under Ganondorf´s tree...

Oi CC. An insult to Ganondorf is an insult to me. Ganondorf's body is perfect and age is only a state of mind. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 18:40, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Woot! I really wanted this fight. Oh and guys, sorry my last vote was an IP, I didn't realise I was signed out.

--Hylianhero777 (talk) 15:26, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Grrr... my numbering is all messed up! Now it says that I'm number one! Why does it do that? Ceiling Master (talk) 01:02, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Cole is getting some surprisingly flattering votes <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 23:39, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, I'm impressed too. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  12:27, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


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