Talk:Hylia's Chosen Hero

Rename
The page should be moved back Hylia's Chosen Hero. In the manga, Knight of Hylia was a generic term for any Knight who served the Kingdom of Hylia, not a specific title for the chosen hero of the Goddess Hylia. Link refers to himself as "a Knight of Hylia" even before being chosen by the Goddess. Link became a special chosen hero after accepting the gift of the Crimson Loftwing differentiating him from the other Knights of Hylia.Password 00:31, 7 May 2012 (EDT)


 * He was often referred to as "her chosen hero". Plus, Link from Skyward Sword was also called the Chosen Knight of the Goddess Hylia by Demise, probably mistaking him for the hero he once defeated during the war. As for the Kingdom of Hylia, I never thought of that name before... It's truly obvious Skyloft was the Kingdom of Hylia thousands of years before Skyward Sword. Why haven't I think of that before... Those terms you said make sense to me. Thanks.--Prince Ludwig 01:24, 7 May 2012 (EDT)


 * Skyward Sword Manga 11.jpg


 * This page clearly indicates the "Knight of Hylia" is a generic term for knights belonging to the kingdom of Hylia and not as a term for the Goddess's chosen hero. During this scene, Link has not been chosen by the Goddess yet. It is the only place in the entire manga where the term "Knight of Hylia" is used. Password 01:38, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

Hmm... Alright... then let's move it. :\--Prince Ludwig 01:46, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

Chosen Hero of the Goddess Hylia's backstory
Many people should noticed that the chosen hero was already regarded as the greatest hero of the Kingdom of Hylia as seen in the manga. Yeah, he was imprisoned for four years and now look more older than a late teen (he must be at least 18 years like the Hero of Time before being imprisoned). So now, guys should know this; the chosen hero was already regarded as their hero and the one who can repel Demise's force and save everyone, which means he already did much for his people four years ago. Hylia came for her chosen hero, wished to be reborn with him as both mortals and childhood friends, Link and Zelda. She gave him the Master Sword, yet she still believes in him. It proves they had knew each other and was together four years ago, then the chosen hero already recieved the sailcloth which I heavily implied to be his red cape. Of course, Hylia will come to her hero as she'll need his strength as Demise is on his way with his army of demons.--Prince Ludwig 07:41, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

His name is Link
These quotes are taken directly from the manga:

"Tis blade knows whether or not you are tarnished. Link." -Hylia

"Link, a knight of the land of Hylia." -Link

"Link. Link the hero." -Hylian

Therefore, his name is Link, correct? Even though he is called Link through the article, he IS the earliest (though ambigously canon) incarnation of Link, unless you say that he CAN'T be called Link because he's not in a canon game. 16:45, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Theories
There's the "Incarnation of Link/Desendant of Link/Link Reborn" theory in the "theory" section. But most of the page, or at least a large section of it, is devoted to describing Skyward Sword Link... And describing him as the "incarnation of the hero". We could either add a theory tag to the Skyward Sword Link incarnation description, or we could remove it altogether. We could also keep it as it is currently. 11:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * But since Eiji Aonuma hinted a possible prequel and Hyrule Historia revealing the Chosen Hero's "certain" followers being named after him, it is certain that Hylia's Chosen Hero being somehow connected to Link is canon. But it seems that metaphorically stating that Link inherited the Legendary Hero explains that he is his reincarnation while there's two possibilities: he is the latest descendant who inherited the Legendary Hero's knightly blood or possess his dormant unbreakable spirit. Sorry about that.--Prince Ludwig 18:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * You keep referring to Hylia's chosen hero as the "Legendary Hero"... This is from page 68 of Hyrule Historia yes? If so, I don't think it's correct to assume that this "legendary hero" is necessarily Hylia's Chosen Hero. It could easily be SS Link, especially since in the paragraph above, the book states that "There is evidence that the story of The Legend of Zelda begins with Skyward Sword".


 * In regards to this... Prince Ludwig, we appreciate the effort you're putting in to this wiki, but please keep in mind that we are an encyclopedia; everything that gets added needs to be based on facts. We cannot be adding speculation to our articles or else it ruins our credibility (unless it's speculation supported by many fans and put under the appropriate "Theory" section) . Right now, a prequel to SS has not been confirmed (hinted at, maybe, but not confirmed), and it has not been confirmed that Hylia's Chosen Hero will be the next Link. It's possible, maybe even probable, but we can't be taking it as fact until it has been confirmed canonically.


 * With that in mind, please try to make sure that everything you add to this page (or any other articles for that matter) has been confirmed, either in a game, a manual, in an interview, or in Hyrule Historia. Just because something is probably true doesn't mean it is true. As a matter of fact, it's not true until Nintendo officially says it is. :P 20:35, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * PS: I'd like to point out that the manga doesn't count since it's not considered fully canon.

Whoa, hold on. We may have a theory section, but they wouldn't be theories because even they weren't facts, there are 99.9% possibilities that they are true. Yes we know, everybody would rather consider SS Link as the first. However, they weren't necessarily upset since one of them realized there's was another hero from the ancient era and are more interested in the possible canon prequel. Tell you what I feel, I highly doubt that SS Link became the hero randomly or he was destined to. They constantly say he possess an umbreakable spirit, that he should "awaken the hero within himself" (it was no metaphor) and I thought I heard Hylia ensured that the Spirit of the Hero will live on forever in the past (it was in the manga but this could be true in the canon game). Hmm, thanks to you, I've found an interesting theory for three or six articles.

Back on topic: But look. It says "may also have been named after the legendary hero" as if we don't know what the Legendary Hero's name was or who he is. Maybe it's Link or not. It's not SS Link. They would say it in the obvious way. The Legendary Hero is supposed to be a hero at the earliest point of the chronology. However, you keep removing these infos because we don't know who he really is. But he could be special as he is chosen by the Goddess Hylia and possibly traveled through the whole land of Hyrule (I'm more interested in ).

Hey, Hyrule Historia was released for the 25th Anniversary, so there could be more in the story in the next years (like those 3/5 upcoming games). Skyward Sword isn't necessarily the beginning of The Legend of Zelda series and won't be for long.--Prince Ludwig 03:50, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Of course, that's probably true. SS is still the earliest game for now, though. :) 11:10, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why we refer to this Chosen Hero as Hylia's Chosen Hero if his name is Link, as it's stated in the manga. Also, There's no (fully) canonical Link before SS. We don't have a page for the Link after Spirit Tracks, even if there's a ambig book that states so. And if we did, the page itself would be ambig, rather than the part that says "The Link after Spirit Tracks, because, canonically, There WILL be a Link eventually and this might be it" being fully canon. It IS possible that the Skyward Sword Link is the first Link, even though Zelda in Skyward Sword mentions a "chosen hero", she also says "they say", so it could be just a legend. 11:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The manga's not fully canon. Canonically, he's just some hero that came before SS Link, (just like the Hero of Men is some hero that came before TMC Link). He can't be considered a Link until there is a game that makes him one.
 * You do have a good point there, though. Maybe this shouldn't even have its own page. If he does turn out to be a Link, this page will get taken down and moved to the Link page anyway. The canon part of this page could all fit in here, and the manga stuff could go to Link/Other Appearances (although now that I look at that page there's nothing on Link's manga appearances so far. Odd.) 12:05, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that would be a big trouble merging the two articles and have another section for the first hero if he turns out to be Link in the possible upcoming Zelda prequel before Skyward Sword. The way I see it, I think some of the canon sources from Skyward Sword's Era of the Goddess Hylia most be true in the possible prequel. But that would be unbearable to see Link or the Goddess Hylia dies for Hyrule after defeating Demise at the end of the prequel game. ^^;--Prince Ludwig 17:19, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Delete?
I think this page should be deleted, with the important bits of info moved to either a manga/hyrule historia page, or to Link's page. This character is Link.