Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage

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Week 5: Hyrule vs. Termina
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Votes for Hyrule

 * 1) Kperfekt722 17:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC) First, if a may note, I have yet to lose a fight. Hyrule will win, no doubt. In fact, Hy-rule's :)
 * 2) LadyNorbert 17:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC) I have to vote for Hyrule -- I've never been to Termina.  ~_^
 * 3) Hyrule is better than Termina --Power courage wisdom and time 19:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC
 * 4) Vidiman 21:18, 21 May 2008 (UTC) I've always known that HYRULE was the best! It's the home to the most famous HYRULE characters.
 * 5) Hero of Time 87 22:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC) While Termina may be a bit more technologically advanced (which is debateable seeing the Hyrule of Twilight Princess), Hyrule has the backing of not only the Triforce but the blessing of the Golden Goddesses themselves.  Hyrule was their chosen favorite of all realms they created, and like God's chosen world of the Earth in this Universe, the Goddesses would come to Hyrule's aid over Termina.  What's more, Hyrule was obviously able to fend off Ganondorf's attack the second time around when they were aware, and I suspect that they could fend off an attack from Termina as well.  Termina is an interesting place, but Hyrule is even moreso because of its history and ever-changing landscape.  With the might of the Golden Goddesses and the Triforce protecting it, Hyrule would ultimately triumph over Termina.
 * 6) Mr.popo:Termina gives me nightmares 500 rupees. I LOST 500 RUPEES
 * 7) ZeldaFanatic98 21:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC) Hyrule is just cooler.  Termina's kinda a rip-off of Hyrule, and we only see it once.  Hyrule's the better of the two.
 * 8) DarkBeastGanon 21:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC) let's see....termina's got four orange giants protecting it while hyrule's got the goddesses themselves at its back.  who's gonna win?  that's a no-brainer, since the giants seem to be guarding termina under their orders like the light spirits guard hyrule.  termina was just an accidental by-product of hyrule's creation.  hyrule has the triforce as well, something that gives it a HUGE advantage over termina.  hyrule obviously beat ganondorf's gerudo army when it attacked the second time, which led to his capture.  if they could win a battle against an army of well-trained thieves like the gerudo, they could certainly take on the terminans as well.  termina has none of these things, plus they didn't have much of an army at all really, while hyrule at least had soldiers at the ready to defend the country against ganondorf.  termina would just lose, no doubts there.
 * 9) Golden Power 22:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC) Hyrule.  Definitely Hyrule.  It's where it all goes down.  We only see Termina once in the whole series...*cough*....in one of the weakest games of the series...*cough*.
 * 10) Mr kmil Hyrule Was where Link was born! Hyrule appears in more games!

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Hyrule will destroy termia becuase it has ganondorf plus he could lead his army there and take over intantly
 * 2) Josh, The godesses did create Hyrule, and remember, Termia was just an accident.
 * 3) Hyrule has its own organized and trained army. Termina was just an accident.
 * 4) Hyrule of course; It has more locations and dungeons. Plus Termina is just a parallel copy of Hyrule.
 * 5) Real VS Fake. Would have to be genuinally ill to think the Termina stood even a fraction of a chance.


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Votes for Termina

 * 1) Zaraber: You know? I came here to vote for Hyrule, but then it hit me. Termina really is one of my favorite settings out of all the games I've played, Zelda or not. With each incarnation of Hyrule you see some key things like Death Mountain, Hyrule Castle, etc. In Termina you start the game with no sense of location, but in a very good way. I'm afraid Majora's Mask has stolen my vote.
 * 2) AuronKaizer: What can I say? Depending on which of the incarnations of Hyrule you're referring to, Termina's got most of them beat, with it being one of the most compelling, diverse, beautiful and downright weeeeeeeird gaming worlds ever seen by me. San Andreas go home!
 * 3) Termina's a little more interesting. It's got a mysterious feel to it. And AK, I just picked a random Hyrule map. Oath to Order 17:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) TatlTael 17:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC): Termina is the place where Majora's Mask takes place, which is ni my oppinian one of the best Zelda games ever. If you love the game, then you've got to love the place where it happens, especially since that's the place where all of the action happens
 * 5) Mr. Murch 21:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC) I'll go with Termina. I've never played Majora's Mask, but Hyrule is getting old (like people named George Bush in the White House)
 * 6) Ganny321--Hyrule is always in danger.
 * 7) Demonic Knight: I have to go with the Terminians for a few reasons. One is Romani Ranch. Now I know this might not seem important but if the Terminan millitary were given a continuous supply of Chateau Romani, their magic users would be all but unstoppable. Also, the Terminians have an additional race, the Deku Scrubs. Scrubs are little more than savages in Hyrule while in Termina they have established their own civilization wich likely has a formal millitary. Also, given their current track record, so to speak, it seems unlikely that the Three Goddesses would interfere directly to assist Hyrule whereas the Four Giants of Termina seem all too happy to fight along side their worshipers. These factors give the Terminians a massive tactical advantage and I seriously doubt that even Hyrule could stand against them.

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Termina rocks. Besides, where else can you get masks that allow you to shapeshift?
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Comments
Err, I don't know if you read this already HoT87, but it's a popularity contest. Whether or not Hyrule is more theologically, technologically or even logically sound than Termina is a moot point. You like it more? Say that instead. I'm not trying to be an asshole here or anything, but you're also confusing other members. I'm sorry, but to actually make people pay attention to the rules they must be enforced. -- Auron  Kaizer  23:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Err, I don't know if you noticed AK, but popularity is based on countless things to individuals, and to me, it's based on favoritism, strength, character, and common sense. You may want to re-read the rules because they say, and I quote: "You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that week." I try to stick to the general thought we all have of which would triumph if put up against it. So I think you need to reevaluate your idea of this contest because "popularity" is a vague thing, and many things go into it. Your idea of popularity is more closed than mine I'm afraid, I'm more open-minded. It's you that's confusing members by trying to strictly force them to choose based on favoritism alone. And I am not trying to be rude, but I don't think it's your place to try to tell someone how to choose their opinion. Hero of Time 87 00:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

What happened to the suggest a fight part of the temple of courage user: solar flute Weakest game in the series? No sir. That goes to Twilight Princess. Oath to Order 19:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but Twilight Princess was one of the greatest to come since Ocarina of Time. Majora's Mask was a rip-off of Ocarina of Time, taking it apart and putting it back together with a weak plot. Definitely the weakest game in the series. Golden Power 22:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No sir. TP is a weak attempt to reproduce OoT. MM is a completely original. It has the best characters in the entire series, personality wise. The Three days is one of the most unique ideas ever. And Majora is a villain of villains. Oath to Order 22:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually Twilight Princess has a lot of innovations and funnier puzzles than Ocarina of Time and the Majora's Mask changes you're talking about are just three horrible days that make you going back on time and losing all your itens.--Ganny321

I honestly agree, Ocarina and Twilight FAR outweigh Majora's Mask. Majora's Mask was really just a repetitious game that basically took Ocarina of Time apart and put the pieces back together a different way. Twilight was actually the most original game in a long time, whereas Majora's Mask was an obvious attempt to repeat Ocarina, hence all the identical charcters and appearances. It's a great game, don't get me wrong. It's just very far from being the best game of the series. Twilight was one of the best to come in my view as well since Ocarina of Time. There was nothing original about Majora's Mask, b/c it was Ocarina put together a different way, like Golden Power said. Hero of Time 87 00:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, you're way off on Majora being the "villain of villains." Almost everyone here reserves that place for Ganondorf I'm sure, and the characters are quite the opposite (weak repetitions of what they were in OOT). The three days gets old, and you always lose your items. If anything was a "weak attempt to reproduce OoT" it was Majora's Mask. Twilight Princess was the best game to come since OOT by far and wide. Golden Power 00:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

i'm not saying Twilight Princess is worse than Majora's Mask but as far as orginality goes its just as guilty as Majora for copying OoT. The Dungeons and their order is a prime example. 1st dungeon inside a giant tree (Deku Tree), 2nd inside a active volcano (Fire temple), 3rd underneath a lake(water temple) need I mention it was drained when you got there. Hey forest, fire and water; well then have a master sword before you walk into a Wind Waker dungeon remake (Temple of the Gods), next enjoy the temple that combines the spirit and shadow temple together. I know zelda games tend to follow the same themes but all Twilight Pincess does is recreate the adult half of OoT.

I agree there are several shared elements between Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time (but honestly, which games don't), but you're wrong about it being completely a remake of it. The only shared thing I see between them is Forest, Fire and Water as you said. But beyond that, those other things don't really have much legitimacy. Majora's Mask was a BLATANT rip-off of Ocarina of Time. Twilight Priness had A LOT more originality to it than you give it credit for. And no, it's not equally guilty by any means. Majora's Mask was far more blatant, that's just being honest with ourselves. Hero of Time 87 04:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


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Week 4: Link vs. Princess Zelda
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Votes for Link
Vidiman 22:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC):I think Link can win!After all, LINK has a sword, a sheild, some items, and some other stuff.Vidiman 22:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) User:Dark Ridley:Hmmm....Master sword vs.......what, some Light arrows she stole from Link...and a sword she never uses....
 * 2) Hero of Time 87 19:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC) Link, hands down.  Ganondorf, an equally powerful sorcerer on par with Zelda, could not defeat the Hero of Time, the Hero of Winds, or the Hero of Twilight.  Zelda herself was defeated even when possessed by Ganondorf.  Link has that inate quality of courage and know-how of how to win a battle enough that he can overcome magical attacks.  Beyond magic, Zelda doesn't appear to be that talented with a lot of weapons beyond a bow and arrow.  Link would win this fight, just as we saw in Twilight Princess.  The handwriting's on the wall there.
 * 3) Dido Mr kmil
 * 4) Hahaha. Link has the Infinity +1 Sword and a ton of weapons. He kills the most ferocious creatures in how many lands? Oath to Order 21:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) I count seven. Sure, Mind beats matter, but if matter is the master sword....  My Vote for Link! User:Count Caterpie 08:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) mr. popo:Link always save Hyrule.
 * 7) If Zelda miraculously gained the power to not get captured all the time, I'd vote for her. Murchadah 02:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) Mario vs Bowser56 10:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)Link is always the hero and Zelda needs to get saved in most Zelda game and Zelda has been a boss in Twilight Princess.
 * 9) Kperfekt722 20:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC) Link Always Has To Save Her. This Is A No-Brainer.
 * 10) UberPhoeb 01:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Link is the hero in the series. He has the awesome equipment plus all the Triforce. Zelda may have the Triforce of wisdom, but right now, Link's on his home turf, as in, he could destroy her any day of the week. Also, Link has the Master Sword, and he has a sheild, Zelda has a sword she never uses, and... nothing else really.

Anonymous votes

 * 1) hands down victory. he can beat everyone she can't beat and has saved her many times (and hopefully many more times).
 * 2) In every Zelda game, exept for windwaker and all games not in hyrule, Zelda has been captured by Ganon, Vaati, and Bellum. In all of those games Link has been the one rescue her. Besides the games for Phillups, which are considered non-canon, Zelda has done nothing to help link in her original form (wwhich means not as shiek or tettra) besides to teach him the song of time and give him the orcarina of time. By popularity and fighting skills Link would win for sure.
 * 3) HANDS DOWN! ZELDA POSSESSES MANY SKILLS, AND THE TRIFORCE OF WISDOM, BUT AS THE HERO OF TIME, AND THE PERSON WHO ALWAYS RESCUES HER, LINK WOULD WIN WITHOUT A HASSLE. (note when Ganondorf controlled Zelda, Link still one)


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Votes for Princess Zelda

 * 1) AuronKaizer: Link kicks ass and all, but especially in the later games (Twilight Princess and the Smash Bros. series) she is one of my favourite characters. Brown haired Zelda owns all others any day of the week by the way. You could say it's a pity vote, but it ain't.
 * 2) XXXXX 15:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC) You know, this really is a popularity contest, as stated by the rules, and she's my favorite character. (Including in the Super Smash Bros. series)
 * 3) though i pefer her blond she has cool attacks in SSBB/SSBM--Power courage wisdom and time 20:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) I just think Zelda would win. RyuHane 19:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) emem123292Zelda dosen't have enough votes, so i vote for her.

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Her name is in the title of the games...Mwa ha ha!!!
 * 2) Link could never defeat her, simply because he could never bring himself to seriously hurt her. That's the unfair advantage all girls have over good boys such as Link.
 * 3) Zelda wields the Triforce of Wisdom, and typically is much more aware of herself and her capabilities before Link is.  A pre-emptive strike would give her the win.


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Comments
one has the sword of evils bane but can it really kill someone not evil?--Power courage wisdom and time 20:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone said that Link would win in a FIGHT! This is a popularity contest everyone! Read the rules! From an angry XXXXX 21:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * While it is a popularity, technically, one can have any reason to vote for whoever. As long as rules are followed on how to vote (don't remove coding, ect.) it doesn't matter why you vote. Oath to Order 21:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Come on guys! This is Link, the hero of the game verses a girl who he doesn't even have to save. Mr kmil
 * It's not an actual fight, as mentioned before. Ish popularity contest yesh. Zelda is more popular with me, so Zelda = winzo0rz. -- Auron  Kaizer  23:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


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