Forum:Moving to Curse

I know that we have discussed moving before in the past in a discussion where we had decided that we would stay with Wikia. However, throughout the past years, Wikia has made some, dare I say, stupid decisions. One of those decisions being the new skin, yes I'm sure we've all gotten used to it by now, but let's face it, if the whole site users Monobook why have it still enabled? That's right, because Wikia won't make an exception. You can see on the blogs about the mutiple blogs on the new look.

In "Important Updates on Wikia's New Look", you can find a comment that says: What the heck?Why did Wowwiki get better version of the Oasis skin? That's a good question, why did WoWWiki get a better version? Why don't all wikis get the same treatment? Why is WoWWiki under a completely different URL? In response to that comment, there was this statement at the end of the reply: Other wikis are pretty much worthless to staff. The sad thing is not that people think that it's true, the sad thing is that it is true. Ever wonder why Uncyclopedia's default skin is Monobook? Because they bring in a lot of viewers. Unless you're bringing in a lot of viewers and have what seems to be over 10,000 articles, you're not going to get special treatment. Even if you are over 10,000 articles and bring in a lot of viewers, you might not get your own URL and separate login system.

On that very same blog in a few pages back, you get a comment that says its not ready... to which Sannse replies with Some changes and fixes have been released today, more are due in the next few weeks. It's been a few years, things in this skin are still broken.

On The new look 2, section 8 (What skins are supported?) you see that they state We are keeping the Monobook skin for the time being as an admin option for Uncyclopedia and its sister projects. We are also allowing it as a personal user choice for those that prefer to view Wikia sites in that format. However, as a company we cannot afford to continue to support older versions of our design. You know what this means? We could lose Monobook. Our userbase is pretty much all Monobook users.

On that same page on section 6 you find that Staff state We’ve found that overall, fixed width simply looks better.

On the "Your First Look at the New Wikia" blog you can find a comment that says Whats the point. Wikia is fine as is. Wikia was fine. But now they have a ton of broken functions and pointless features.

That takes me to my next point. We have had features such as PlayQuiz added to our wiki without staff asking for consensus. We did not want this. We did not ask for it. They waltz in and added this feature to Zeldapedia. Additionally, they have completely broken search. Searching "Zelda" should only bring up pages with "Zelda" in the title, not a page that has "Zelda" in the page. This leads to endless pages of search results. Chat. Because we all want to use a pointless little chat in a new window where we have to deal with trolls. Not only that, but IRC and Skype exist for reasons. And then Message Wall, we don't need these bad features. We don't need any features.

Need I remind you guys that this is an encyclopedia. Wikia is turning it into a social network site. Jazzi 22:31, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Pros

 * Moving to a new farm will be able to give us a fresh start. We'll be independent from Wikia. We won't be with Zelda Wiki.org. The URL will be completely independent as shown on the following sites: Vindictus Wiki, Skyrim Wiki, Minecraft Wiki, SWTOR Wiki, WoWPedia, Dragon Nest Wiki, Terraria Wiki. All those wikis are Subject Wiki in the URL. Not subject.curse.com. We are our own URL. The only probably would be that we would either have to be zeldawiki.com which would cause a problem with ZeldaWiki.org
 * Bring in more users. Users who won't be incompetent and will actually know how to edit something.
 * We could possibly have protect site on, meaning that we wouldn't have anonymous users.
 * Get rid of Zelda Answers.

Cons

 * We could lose our anonymous users.
 * Possibly lose the name "Zeldapedia".

Options

 * Curse has Vector. All wikis use Vector. It might be possible they will consider giving us Monobook. It might not be positive though.

== Questions to Curse =
 * If we get a database dump of Zeldapedia, would we be able to have the articles on the new(er) wiki without copyright problems?
 * Do user accounts transfer over?
 * Do you guys allow username changes?
 * Do you guys have a forum namespace? Or is it in a forums.siteurl.com?
 * Can we add in namespaces? We have a Walkthrough namespace at Zeldapedia and I'd like to see it transfer over with us.
 * How do the user rights work over there? On Wikia people with the rollback flag can do a quick undo, then we have the administrators who can delete, block, protect, move files, and move pages without a redirect, and then the bureaucrats who can add and remove rights while having the same abilities as admins.
 * What would the URL look like?
 * Do we have to pay to be hosted?

Comments
When it comes down to it. We'll either have to move as a good chunk of the community, or we should just stay. I personally do not want to stay, but I'm staying with the community. Jazzi 22:31, June 25, 2012 (UTC)