Talk:Gerudo

Ganondorf is not a "typical" Gerodo.
Ganondorf is not a "typical" Gerodo.


 * i think they mean that ganon is a typical male gerudo, as we don't know that all other males were like that before him.--Claire 20:17, 10 December 2007 (EST)

"In the Wind Waker, the Gerudo are all but extinct. Ganondorf is the last remaining Gerudo in the world."
"In the Wind Waker, the Gerudo are all but extinct. Ganondorf is the last remaining Gerudo in the world." This is what it seems like in Wind Waker however as we know their are Gerudos in Phantom Hourglass which means they are NOT extinct.


 * But there is no confirmation that the two sisters are gerudos. We can't judge them by the color of their skin.


 * Well, when I saw Zauz, I thought of Quill, since they look the same... RupeeLord 19:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

They can heal themselves with little white spirits over their heads??
They can heal themselves with little white spirits over their heads?? Personally I think this part of the article should be removed since it's probably the same thing as those little birds that fly over people's heads when knocked unconscious in cartoons.


 * Yeah, I agree completely. I really don't think those are healing spirits, I'm pretty sure those are to show the player the Gerudo's are in a daze and not dead, so you'd better run like a cucco.

If a male is born every 100 years, than how do they reproduce?
If a male is born every 100 years, than how do they reproduce?--Eponasowner 18:32, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Easy. They simply mate with Hylians. In fact, that may be part of the reason Gerudo seem more rare in WW/PH. Their bloodline is starting to thin.


 * oh, thank you.


 * but what if a gerudo male reproduces? will the female give birth to a gerudo? RupeeLord 01:05, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Holy cow
Do we really need this many references? I mean, sure it's nice to be able to tell that yes, Mutoh DID go tell Link to find out what's up and it's not just made up fan-fiction, but is it necessary? I'm not entirely convinced it is. Discuss. --Ando 15:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Well with that new scroll bar doesn't it look less overwhelming? 21:40, October 31, 2008 (UTC)

Ganon's ears
Ganon's ears arent round..anyone notice that?--Remo 05:49, 25 April 2008


 * It's probably a male thing. There's NEVER been another male Gerudo other than him to compare. For instance, are Gerudo male's skin ALWAYS green? Who knows?


 * We now have another problem, all the Gerudo in BotW seem to have pointed ears. At least Riju and Urbosa. --Rick 08:51, 18 April 2017


 * Problem Solved. -- Hylian pi (talk) 07:54, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Extinction of Gerudos
I think they wouldnt get extinct if they just got some brains and mated with the single male in the tribe then there blood line wouldnt be so thin. --ZeldaGirl101 19:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Majora's Mask pirates
I don't actually remember the pirates in MM being called Gerudo. It's probably just me being forgetful, but could someone just show me where that term is used in that game? Jimbo Jambo 05:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Mr. Mikau would like you to listen to his song.
 * "Oh! Baby, listen to me. I don't wanna beg. Gerudo Pirates! They stole that girl's eggs. / I went to stop the Gerudo Pirates, then pow and bam! I got knocked down, and here I am!"
 * So... Yep. 'Tis indeed in the game. :D 22:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * WAIT A MINUTE THAT IS NOT THE SONG THAT MIKAU SINGS TO YOU WHEN YOU RESUE HIM. But it's in the text dump?? ...what is that song? 23:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * wait nvm there's a second verse to the song which is what the above quote is 23:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Aha, thanks. Jimbo Jambo 15:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Physiology?
Can we rename the Physiology section as something...different? Physiology is the study of function, and there's really nothing function related in that section. There's a little bit of Anatomy there, I guess, since it mentions their traits (structure). Or maybe something different would be better that is more generalized. All I can say is that Physiology is not a good title, and anyone who's studied an Anatomy/Physiology class would be able to recognize it. Perhaps I'm wrong and missed something that could be called Physiology, but I don't think so...what do you think? 06:40, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps "Physical traits" would be a better title? Dany36 05:17, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not going to lie, Physical traits sounds much better...I also would like to throw out the plain ol' "Characteristics", because it's about their physical characteristics, their magical characteristics, and the characteristics (if that word can actually apply) of the culture. 06:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Two tribes indeed?
In the physiology section, it says that there are (at least) two tribes. I don't think that this should be taken for granted. Assuming that a large period of time passed between OoT/MM and FSA their culture could have evolved over the years. Plus, none of these games feature two different groups of Gerudo. I think this part can be omitted. What do you think? Zeldafan1982 15:16, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

Dragonfly?
The first trivia entry which begins "In the real world..." is now questionably accurate based on the use of the word Gerudo in Skyward Sword. It would seem, being that SS takes place prior to all other Zelda games, the Gerudo race did not name regions and organisms after them. The origin of the word 'Gerudo' now seems more likely to be because some area was known as 'Gerudo' far before the events of Ocarina of Time, unless a convincing argument could be made for the Gerudo tribespeople naming themselves after a dragonfly. In any case, however, the use of the term 'Gerudo' prior to the establishment of the Gerudo people invalidates the claim that the things designated 'Gerudo' are called such because of some association with the Gerudo race. Tino 00:26, 20 December 2011 (EST)

The Iron Knuckle Connection (Not Entirely Theoretical)
Hi all. This is in response to the recent edits regarding the Iron Knuckle / Gerudo / Nabooru articles, and I feel I should elaborate for the record. Someone (I believe it may have been GlitterBerri, whom I'm sure you know for contributing to the Hyrule Historia among other things) first noticed that all OoT and MM Iron Knuckles contain a Gerudo's head in them, and at first that was mostly disregarded as an easter egg or oversight because the head looked like an earlier model for Nabooru and they used the same base model for the enemy and boss Iron Knuckle. However, it later came to light that these Iron Knuckles also contain upper bodies as well, which appear to be virtually identical to each other. While one would think at first that this is a mere modeling mistake, it actually can be seen when an Iron Knuckle sheds off part of its armor and moves into the second phase of the fight, which absolutely does not happen with the Nabooru mini-boss since she does not move into the second phase of the fight (instead, it's briefly visible in her cutscene). It is also a consistent trait of Iron Knuckles not only in the many revisions of OoT, but also MM and OoT3D; in the former, a brief cutscene even occurs when they move into the second phase, with the camera zooming in somewhat on their body. Here are some screenshots of this phenomenon for closer inspection: OoT/MM (courtesy of Peardian from The Cutting Room Floor) and OoT3D (courtesy of AmadisAnguiano from Zelda Universe). Note that while their heads were erased from OoT3D (probably because they are never seen without a camera trick), their bodies are still visibly Gerudo during battle (if not moreso). As for how this detail eluded the fans for so long - it could have been due to the N64 graphics at the time, or that it was generally pretty subtle to pick up on. All in all, it is clearly a significant observation in their relation. LinkTheLefty 21:33, 24 June 2012 (EDT)


 * Wow, that is impressive. My main beef with this before was that there we no sources to back it up, and when you make claims like these, you really need them for credibility. But anyway, that's less of a problem now. Since it's a very little known fact and involves a lot of out-of-universe writing, I still think this information should stay in its own section apart from the Gerudo/Iron Knuckle articles. But if we can add references to back up the claims, I we can definitely get rid of the theory tag. 07:43, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

Pronunciation
Can we delete the pronunciation key that says the emphasis is on the "ru"? As far as I know there's no basis for this being the English pronunciation, and it's definitely not the Japanese one. (Ru is rarely voiced in Japanese, and the "etymology" section of this page references the katakana names of past enemies Geldarm and Geldman, in which it is specifically unvoiced.) Shmedly 20:49, 25 Oct 2015 (EST)

Should we mention and, , and  as appearances
No normal gerudo appear in those games but Twinrova and Ganondorf are in them, and they're confirmed Gerudo. Gopherdude12 (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the very belated response. But in this case, the Oracle games, TWW and TP should not be listed here. The race pages, which the Gerudo page is, should only include games where the race has appeared as an established people. One or two Gerudo characters are not enough. 22:47, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Hybrids
On the discussion of the topic of hybrids, the Gossip stone implied that the Gerudo take Hylian lovers, and if this is how they reproduce, then one would assume that Gerudo breed true somehow, and their offspring are the full gerudo. Delsait (talk) 06:35, 20 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Gerudo seem to be a race of humans, so it's more likely that they just keep the babies with Gerudo traits, and male gerudo are found very rarely simmilar to Calico Cats. Therefore I don't think it's necisarry to add that some Gerudo are hybrids. Gopherdude12 (talk) 21:10, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Split Gerudo Thief (The enemy type)?
Has splitting the Gerudo thief enemy type been considered? Not the Naginata using guards, but the Dual Scimitar using mini-bosses in OoT, and MM. There could be enough to warrant a separate page? Delsait (talk) 00:13, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

How do you pronounce "voe"? Is the 'e' silent?
How do you pronounce "voe'? Is the 'e' silent? If it were English we would assume the 'e' is silent, so it rhymes with "doe" (a female deer) or "poe" (a Hylian ghost). But the Gerudo language appears to be more foreign, maybe somewhat akin to Arabic. The point being that the spellings should be viewed as transcriptions from a foreign alphabet, and probably phonetic. If they wanted it to rhyme with Japanese "bo staff" they would have spelled it "vo". Since it has a final 'e' in the spelling, maybe the final 'e' is not silent, and it should be two syllables and rhyme with "Zoe" instead? I note that the names of the Gerudo witches Koume and Kotake have final 'e' in the spelling, I think those are not silent either.


 * I don't believe any Gerudo say the word aloud, so I don't think there is any official pronunciation for "voe". TriforceTony (talk) 14:08, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, if the word had been spoken aloud in the voice acting, we would not need to have this discussion. Ziggurism (talk) 19:38, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Never heard the word voice-acted. Personally, I've been pronouncing it . - Dermotmacflann (talk) 17:50, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thank you for your feedback. Myself, I started off saying before coming around to  (rhymes with "Zoe" or "joey"). Ziggurism (talk) 19:38, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess we would need the exact Japanese name to know for certain. Japanese is read exactly how it is written, unlike English, so it'd be easy to know. I have been pronouncing it as "Vo", as in bo, go, know, etc. But with "Vai" being one syllable I think that is fairly good evidence to suggest Voe is the same. Black  Dragon  05:11, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree there would be a nice symmetry with "vai" in the sounds if it were pronounced (rhymes with "doe"). Think of the Gerudo wedding vow: "I now pronounce you voe and vai."


 * But then why spell it, but not other Gerudo words, according to English rules?


 * For that matter how are we pronouncing "vai"? I think it rhymes with high. Ziggurism (talk) 19:49, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd say the pronunciation "voy" is possible, for English. Maybe the Gerudo pronunciation could be something like  or, but since no pronunciation is attested in-game, we may never know which is correct. - Dermotmacflann (talk) 20:56, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

For whatever it's worth, I switched my console to Spanish and loaded up the game (Japanese wasn't an option for whatever reason). In Spanish it's the same, "voe". Ziggurism (talk) 10:47, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Another point: there is an NPC in the game named Granté, spelled with an accute accent over the 'e' in the US localization. Which suggests that at least someone at NoA thinks that in at least some contexts American English readers will expect silent 'e' unless marked with a diacritic. Ziggurism (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

It is, in fact, voi and vai. Just one more case of the BotW localizers changing basically one letter from every name to justify their paychecks.KairuHakubi (talk) 03:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Name theming
I think it's worth mentioning in the article that the original pre-localized names in BotW are cosmetics-themed. Rouge, Cotton, Emery, etc. KairuHakubi (talk) 03:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)