Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage



Welcome to the Temple of Courage, where various characters from the Legend of Zelda series battle out on a semi-weekly basis! You, the people, are the deciding factors in these matches. Functionally, all of these battles are popularity contests and not "battles" as such. For instance, in a boss vs. boss fight, we suggest that you vote for the one you like the most rather than whether or not one enemy would beat another in a legit fight. This is only a suggestion, though.

You can suggest a fight or vote or comment on others on the suggestions sub-article.

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Week 111: Shadow Beast vs. Stalfos
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This week, in the gray corner, we have the fierce dark beasties from the Twilight Realm, who were transformed from a peaceful race, the Twili, to denizens that blot out the light of Hyrule in order to fulfill Zant's desires!! With a screech that can bring their brethren back to life!!! Let's give it for the SHAAAAAAADOOOOOW BEEEEEAAAAAASST!!!!

In the light blue corner, we have the well-known classic Zelda baddies! Said to have been Hylians that got lost in the Lost Woods, ladies and gentlemen, scream in horror, we present the STAAAAAAAALFOOOOSSS!!!!

Voters and common spectators, beware! These beasties lurk in the darkest corners, searching for victums to attack! If you desire life over death, it may be best to watch this brawl from afar!!! LEEEETTTT'S GET REEAAAADDYYYYY TO RUMBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Votes for Shadow Beast

 * 1) I like the Shadow Beasts. They're cool and shadowy. I know, poor choice of adjectives. T h e Midna Laughing.png ™  00:09, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I vote for the Shadow Beasts. Stalfos are easy to kill. All you have to do is slash after you blocked their attack. On the other hand, with Shadow Beasts, you have to round them all up and then kill them. The move at their own pace and if you mess up, you suffer the shreek of pain! Metroidman94 (talk)
 * 3) if zant didn't win last week, at least his followers should this week Meep Meep (talk) 01:34, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) I like these guys. I like them.  J-man   Zelda   Fan  01:39, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) To me, Stalfos are just annoying when I fight them. But shadow beasts...uhh...I just like going with shadows beasts. ~Uh.
 * 6) ...I just like them better. --The Ultimate Hokage 88 [[Image:Arwing.png|link=User:TheUltimateHokage88/Cameo|30px|]]02:24, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) They took the light from hyrule... doupt a stalfos can do that. ( I forgot to vote for zant last week :--Yorick141 (talk) 11:33, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Shadow beasts are just really cool. they have an awesome looking design, and are much tougher to beat then stalfos.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 12:51, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) I really like these mutated Twili.Rusl 33 (talk) 15:22, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) So... Shadowy... -- Cybrwulf   (Talk   Edits) 18:02, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) Shadow Beasts are pretty cool...do not approve of these beasts ravaging through Kakariko! But they look cool :D and they remind me of Alien vs Predator, whatever the movie's called. --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 22:15, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) Don't get me wrong, I love Stalfos, but these guys had me quaking with fear whenever they showed up. I got to go with the beasties.-- MaloMart  ( talk ) Malo.png 02:56, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) I hate Stalfos, they're just stupid. And in windwaker if there's more then one then it's just hectic. I like Shadow Beasts better anyways cause they look cool. They remind me of Heartless from Kingdom Hearts as well. ~xgangsterxninjax

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Shadow beats are way cooler.
 * 2) Shadow Beasts are fun to fight, and they're more special since they only appear in one game. Besides, I got stuck in the shadow temple in OOT- A Stalfos kept knocking me off the edge...
 * 3) I really desliked the Stalfos in OoT when I was younger, 'cause I could never beat them. I also failed hard at their WW versions. And the Stalfos that only die by a bomb explosion are the dullest ones.. I only liked MC Stalfos.. Shadow Beasts are much more fun to fight, especially with Midna's help..
 * 4) As much as I would love for the Stalfos to win here; this is a "who would win" deal. And since Stalfos don't have the Spin Attack, nor do they have the awesome power of Midna's... Hairdo... The Shadow Beasts would just come back to life every time, and eventually get in enough lucky shots to take the Stalfos down, slowly but surely.
 * 5) I love Shadow Beasts, because you get to show Iza how cool you are AND you get a FREE BOMB BAG!!! :)  Plus, Stalfos are just plain creepy and if you're out of bombs, you're out of life. They're also in my least favorite dungeon- Arbiter's Grounds. BLEAH!!! Also, Shadow Beasts are Midna's people, and the Twili are SOO COOL! So Shadow Beasts get my vote (even though it looks like we aren't going to win)


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Votes for Stalfos
25.Staflos are Wayyyyyyyy cooler.
 * 1) Shadow Beasts are pushovers. The whole group defeat thing was a cute trick, but these are freakin' Stalfos we're talking about. During my first playthrough of Ocarina of Time, I was going completely crazy with anxiety as I was trying to make my way down the collapsing Fortress of Barad-Dur before the timer expired. And then, of course, who would appear but my dreaded enemies, the Stalfos? I could not seem to defeat those dudes. I eventually made it out just two seconds before the timer expired. Now that embarrassing memory will haunt me forever. Yeah, did the Shadow Beasts ever amount to a challenge that's even 1/1338 of that? No. Besides, they're (re)animated skeletons with swords, what more could you want? --Auron  Kaizer !  23:21, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Would have to go with AK here..I remember first seeing these in the Forest Temple on OoT and being completely freaked out by them...ahhh, good times.  Besides, the battle with the shadow beasts was just minorly annoying but over all quite easy.  When it comes to Stalfos its an all out intense battle of awesomeness!!--UnendingForestGlade (talk) 23:49, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Stalfos are better! AK is correct!--Link in Termina (talk) 23:52, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) It's all been said by AK. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:04, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Um, hello, these guys are actualy a challange, and fun to figfht, as opposed to the useless shadow beasts Michael Ryan  Talk  00:04, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) I'd rather not say how many times it took to beat the reanimating Stalfos in the Forest Temple. I don't remember, anyway. What I do remember is the immense satisfaction I felt upon beating them. Jedimasterlink (talk) 00:46, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Shadow Beasts are sort of cool, but Stalfos are just better in every way. The "beat them all at once" concept was interesting at first, but it got old real fast. Stalfos, on the other hand, are always fun to fight, and while they're pushovers for me nowadays, back when I first played OoT (when I was five or six or thirty-eight or something...I forget the specifics) they were the perfect difficulty for me. There's something that's just more fun about the pressure of killing the second one within the time limit than having to group a bunch of enemies together to pull some contrived ninja wolf move that seems like it was created around the concept of the fight when really it should be the other way around.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  01:34, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Yeah, the Shadow Messengers are pretty cool, and hacking them down is fun, but only because they go down so easily.  Stalfos, however, are pretty much hardcore enemies even by themselves.  (Unless you hit them with a Ball-and-Chain, but whatevs...) Anyway, Stalfos are just friggin awesome on top of that.  Not to mention that part of the Shadow Temple in OoT with the giant boat and three jump down to fight you.  That screams "EPIC!"  AnonymousNayru
 * 4) When Shadow Beasts were top-design, they were just too easy, when these skeleton guys actually were a challenge in most of their appearances. Win. |lun ar|Ch ild 13:12, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Stalfos are just classic. I mean, They're everyone's evil minion. They represent Zelda enemies. Point Stalfos.  CrazyReDead
 * 6) OoT enemy SURE WIN!  Amazing  Link Link Artwork 1 (Ocarina of Time).png 15:02, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Stalfos are in nearly every game while shadow beasts just walk around like idiots in 1 game.  Also Shadow Beasts ruined the fun of riding around Epona when the time for that really came. --Hydropanda (talk) 15:15, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Stalfos rock. --Tj hoffman (talk) 16:13, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) What's not to love? Darax King Dodongo.png
 * 10) You're all looking for a reason to make me out to be a biased voter, that's it...yeah...you're trying to mess with me man, but I'm tougher than you, boy, I'll never admit to being biased, never hehehehehehee.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 17:39, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) Shadow Beast looks cooler, and its story is cooler, but since I haven't player TP, Stalfos gets my vote. Plus, they're pretty annoying. -- The One And Only Guitar Hero   Talk to TOAOGH |undefined You can't believe everything online, that's what started WW1 19:02, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) Gotta go for the nostalgia factor--DarkTriforce (talk) 20:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) Ummm, yeah. This looks pretty one-sided. Ricorum (talk) 21:26, August 9, 2010 (UTC) 21:26, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) woot! Fooster (talk) 23:02, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) stalfos seem easier to beat.  --DekuScrubzRule
 * 16) stalfos in OoT evil,WW's humorusish, TP's creepy, and all the others are annoying, Vs. semieasy creatures that can be killed with a spin attack.--Majora's Wrath Artwork.png Reinca  rnation  21:08, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) I obviously go for Stalfos because I liked them alot in Ocarina of Time and they were much scarier, besides that fighting Shadow Beasts can be buggy at times when using Midna's power will catch them all but miss one of the monsters or when I was walking behind that building from the afro girl near Zora's Domain as a human and those things attacked me and made it impossible to transform.Mido did what?! (talk) 21:15, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) Yea Stalfos!!! Funlover63 (talk) 21:18, August 11, 2010 (UTC)Funlover63
 * 19) Shadow Beasts are okay but the real mony goes to stalfos for being one of the most famous enemys of legend of zelda the first being the like like second are the reDead---lolzman12 A.K.A the triforce of epic.
 * 1) I like Stalfos more...Shadow Beasts are just annoying.-TriforceofEpicness

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Stalfos. When I hear that name, I think of the battle at Ganon's collapsing tower and the battle on the boat in the shadow temple. I loved making them fall of the boat. Best day of my life.
 * 2) The Stalfos are so kind in OoT that, when you are Z-targeting its buddy, it justs waits for you to finish him off!
 * 3) Stalfos were here first, whereas any kind of shadow enemy is just plain annoying. I hate that roar, but escaping Ganon's Castle with a time limit...fighting Stalfos...was epic.
 * 4) I gotta go with stalfos.
 * 5) Stalfos is just too awesome, shadow beast is so easy. All you do is round them up and do an area attack with midna.
 * 6) Stalfos are so cool.
 * 7) Stalfos are AWESOME! They pwned me the first time I played. Shadow Beasts are just... odd...
 * 8) I'm actually very torn on this one. I would have to say that I'm siding with the Stalfos only because they're a bit harder to kill.
 * 9) stalfos are more classic.they appeared in a lot more games.(and they were easier to beat)
 * 10) I like undead things because they're undead and they're things.
 * 11) Shadow Beasts are very strange, considering they make a demonic scream whenever you slash at them. Stalfos, on the other hand, are the best classic enemies next to darknuts!
 * 12) Would I pick the losing side?


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Peanut Gallery
Anonymous vote 2 for Stalfos is funny. AnonymousNayru

Yeah it is and who did the intro cuz I don't see one. Tabs34

Shadow Beasts are cool,except for the fact that it's hard to defeat them without Midna. Stalfos is REALLY scary to me! I always get chills when I know there's one around the corner... How do you choose?? -Werewolf

Shadow beasts are easy, stalfos are annoing in most games incredily hard in OoT and down right freaky in TP, has anyone noticed that when there is that mutipule incarnations of someting most people usully comments only on the one in the picture new sig-- Reinca  rnation  20:55, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * That is actually exactly the opposite of what "most" people do. You see, in this case we are referring mostly to the OoT Stalfos, because one of the similarities between the two combatants is that they can revive each other, something that Stalfos in most of their appearances cannot do. If anybody referred to a different type of Stalfos, it would be, while not technically wrong, somewhat weird and not following the intent of the fight. Of course, it would seem quite weird to actually put Stalfos (Ocarina of Time) in the ToC title, so it's sort of to be expected, especially due to the sparsely descriptive intro. The same thing happened with Hide 'N' Seek Fairies vs. Skull Kid; it was intended to be the TP Skull Kid and the similarity was their games of hide-and-seek (or hide 'n' seek, whatever), but many people voted for Skull Kid because they liked the appearance from MM.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  02:15, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Stalfos > mutated twili. Stalfos are more of a challenge.--Link in Termina (talk) 01:49, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


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Week 110: Vaati vs. Zant
{| style ="width: 100%;" LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!! Let me welcome you to the 110th week of the TEMPLE. OF. COOOOOOOOOOOOOURAGE!!!
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In the blue corner, we have the evil twisted sorceror who was once apprentice to the famous Minish mage, Ezlo. THIS. IS. VAAAAAAAAAAAAAATI!!!

In the brown corner, we have the insanely crazy Twili, twisted by his thoughts and by another villain (care to guess who?) who appeared before Zant as a false god and granted him immense power. THIS. IS. ZAAAAAAAAAAAANT!!!

Voters and common spectators, unless you want to become an imp or a chatty cap, please stay away from these two contestants!! LLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRREEADY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUMBLEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
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Votes for Vaati

 * 1) this dude... is messed up. but not as messed up as zant. and i don't like twilight princess... at all.... Fooster (talk) 02:44, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I just find a dark, nearly-insane, shady, and devious villain cool. --Пирог 145
 * 3) Vaati rules! Mwahahahaha... Plus Zant spooked me with his tongue mask. User:Pink link
 * 4) Yea Vaati! Funlover63 (talk) 04:45, August 2, 2010 (UTC)Funlover63
 * 5) Sure he has a rudimentary back story that was only told in his third appearance, no clear motives outside of minish cap and no dialogue in four swords adventures but not all villains need these super back stories or in dept characters (although it usually is the formula for a good villain). Some times you just need a guy who’s evil just for the sake of being evil and he plays the evil part quite well. Certainly better then Zant who doesn't even stick around to see Link killed by Stallord. Plus as a boss he is quite hard which is always an upside for me Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 14:14, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Vaati is much better than Zant. Vaati turned Zelda to stone, while Zant acted like an evil version of Tingle.--Not Spock (talk) 14:43, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Meep Meep Meep (talk) 15:17, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Um... let us not vote for the crazy parrot-sounding boss...15:28, August 2, 2010 (UTC)Ricorum (talk)
 * 9) This is purely based on the fact that Minish Cap was the first Zelda game I completed. Vaati has it on that. GAH! Dead Man's Volley!  Phoenixdaughter  AM  15:33, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) Zant was cool, then he took off his mask... Vaati was cool for the whole game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Michael Ryan  Talk  18:57, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) Win--DarkTriforce (talk) 23:07, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) I have always loved him.  Darax King Dodongo.png
 * 13) ah I choose Vaati becauce I like his... theme? and because he meed more votes.--:  Majora's   Warth's   Reincarnation  [ 14:19, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) Pyramidheads creep me out Bjarnster (talk) 14:38, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) This one doesn't go insane at the end. Oddball 464 18:20, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) What's up with zant's helmet? -Hello Doggy
 * 17) Vaati is a g. No disputing it. Compact, but deadly. -CrazyReDead
 * 18) Does anyone feel a breeze?  Cybrwulf   (Talk   Edits)  04:25, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 19) Zant killed the poor people of Kakariko! That b*****d! --Mistertrouble189 (talk) 02:28, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20) I personally thought Vaati was a better overall character then Zant.Plus for me Zants battle was a piece of cake while it took me a bit to get used to vaati's multiple fighting styles.--Alphwave
 * 21) Vaati is the sex. That is all. -<font color ="#68E0D0">Stars  <font color ="#187868">talk  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/pyroac/Starssprite.gif 16:29, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22) Okay, Zant was pretty damn cool for a while, especially in that creepy scene where he whispers wheezes into Midna's ear. But after a while,  he stopped being even the slightest bit intimidating and started to just sound....whiny. Vaati, on the other hand, stays cool throughout  the entire game. He never spazzes out like Zant, and stays cool and calm, which makes him just that much more menacing. Plus, you have GOT to love his music. Not just his theme song, but the songs for the battles against him, too. Sir Real (talk) 20:44, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 23) A little late with the vote, but here it is. Vaati FTW! --<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 [[Image:Arwing.png|link=User:TheUltimateHokage88/Cameo|30px|]]02:27, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 24) Vaati without a doubt. While Zant and the former Minish both had ambitions and agendas, Vaati seemed to have more will power in the end (to a fault). FabledArc (talk) 07:30, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 25) Hard choice. I guess I just like Vaati a little more. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 15:37, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Zant was weird at the end. Vaati becomes a god and is more popular in the series from me point of view! Go one-eye mage!!
 * 2) He was ADORABLE as a minish in the manga!!!!!!!!! Zant?! NOT ADORABLE AT ALL >:(
 * 3) His been in more games and has a cool monster form and Zant does nor!
 * 4) Vaati... Zant... VAATI... ZANT... I'd have to go with Vaati. I like his FS/FSA forms- giant eyeballs are always in style!
 * 5) Gotta go with Vaati on this one. Vaati almost became a God. Zant was Ganon's puppet. And in the words of Majora's Mask, "a puppet that can no longer be used is mere garbage. This puppet's role has just ended."
 * 6) Vaati is my favourite Zelda Villian of all time! He looks cool as a Hylian, but his first Boss incarnation is the coolest!
 * 7) Zant Was kind of brain washed to take over Hyrule, Vaati thought to take over Hyrule by himself not from the influence of Gannondorf! GO VAATI!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 * 8) Dude...Vaati theme rules over most other Zelda's music, Zants was all bazzar!
 * 9) I've just always seen Vaati as a great villian, and therefore to me he is far better than Zant.
 * 10) Zant is over rated and insane people get lame after some time.
 * 11) Vaati is WAY better and cuter than Zant can ever be!
 * 12) Vaati was actually challenging, zant was just a pushover who got his powers from someone more powerful that him
 * 13) First of all, Zant was a little pansy. He was a pawn at best in ganon's plan, while Vaati was in control and in charge. Plus, Vaati was in two games while Zant was only in one. Second of all, Vaati had to be sealed away( just like Ganon ).
 * 14) Vaati was his own villain. Zant was a nut-case puppet. He was cool in the beginning, but he completely lost his coolness in the end.
 * 15) Vaati is sooo awesomer than Zant
 * 16) Vaati didn't need anyone to help him. Zant was a puppet who couldn't handle the tiniest thing going wrong. By villainous standards, Vaati is far superior.
 * 17) Vaati managed to think of a plan and everything for himself and already had his own powers. Zant didn't have his own plans and had to get more power from Ganondorf.
 * 18) Vaati's boss music was tons better than Zant's. also, Vaati didn't goo insane at the end.
 * 19) Vaati is great, my cousin is a fann off him!!! So am me!
 * 20) Zant was cool... until he became insane. Vaati was cool the whole game, and I like more his boss music.


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Votes for Zant

 * 1) He didn't want me to denounce the series' continuation as much as Purple Boy did. Zant could just utter one of his insane yells and Vaati would be crying in a corner. Interesting fight, huh? --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  02:25, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I have ALWAYS loved this CRAZY DUDE!!! He never freaked me out, he just made himself my FAVORITE character of Twilight Princess!!!  Amazing  Link Link Artwork 1 (Ocarina of Time).png 02:26, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) I like Zant. He's cool and crazy: a good combination! <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™  02:39, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Zant...not sure what to say here, but at least he has a personality. Albeit a bipolar, disconcerting one. Jedimasterlink (talk) 02:52, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Crazy people are the most fun. Now if you excuse me I need to be put back in my special coat. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:55, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Zant is soooooo much better than vaati! Zant had an interesting backstory, and I actually like the part where he goes crazy because it makes him a more memorable character. Vaati had NO backstory and was kind of boring. Zant had a cool boss fight too.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 10:48, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Even if I use Zant as my talk bubble, I'm not biased towards him. Even though Zant is not a complete character, he is a better character than Vaati. Vaati is just just rather bland, and in the Zant vs. Ingo fight, Ingo was a complete and interesting character, Vaati is just a complete and dull character. No contest.--  C  2  / C C  13:18, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Well, I personally thought that Vaati was an incredibly lame villain. - Is  drak  thül  13:39, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) I like his cool design, and how TP cruelly but showily dismissed him as a mad puppet. What's not to like? (His boss battle.) |<font color="#003333">lun <font color="#336666">ar|<font color="#336666">Ch <font color="#003333">ild 14:23, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) Don't get me wrong, I like Vaati, but Zant is just way cooler. -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish   <font color="#003366">Link  15:30, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) I voted for Ingo last Zant fight (no really I did), so I can't do it twice.--Ingo the great (talk) 18:53, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) I'll go with Zant. I like his story more, and he kinda reminds me of Majora.--Link in Termina (talk) 00:10, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) Vaati was on the GBA and I dislike handhelds, also Zant had a great background with his false god. Mido did what?! (talk) 10:39, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) He has an awesome maniacal shriek. zdmshadow
 * 15) He's ZANT. The ZANT. If I could, I would wear an I♥EvilTwiliDudesWhoTryToTakeOverTheWorld-ish in front of him. Fer SURE! I mean, he still looks like a zora to me, but ehh, I learn to get used to it. :]]] Anyways...it's an automatic win since he's a Twili. :3 I♥EvilTwiliDudesWhoTryToTakeOverTheWorld-ish
 * 16) Zant is a way better villian. Go Zant! User:Perpetualtwilight
 * 17) Zant has a better backstory the whole thing with taking over the throne of twilight and being aided by ganondorf takes my vote --Longhorn Velez (talk) 20:00, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) A really hard decision for me...but I have to go with the crazy psychopath who both freaks me out and makes me laugh. Plus the way he dies is freakin awesome.  J-man   Zelda   Fan  04:29, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I'd forgotten the smell of this place. Anyway, Zant it is.-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 06:21, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Zant's level of insanity brought a whole new level to the game. Plus, as Ganondorf's apprentice, he was pretty intimidating. Zant gets my vote. --SheikahPhilosopher (talk) 15:43, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) He was a better villian, had a better backstory, was more fun to fight, had better background music, and pretty much everything else was better. I also felt sorry for him, because he was mislead and used by Ganondorf. --Mrcapan 7:46 August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Zant is the embodiment of kewl, besides his death was epic. . Phantom   Zelda
 * 4) I like both Vaati and Zant (and Twilight Princess and Minish Cap) and this is a REALLY hard vote for me to make. Sure, Vaati is a final boss, but he only has a 3-part battle. Zant has how many, 7? Anyway, Zant is just that little bit cooler than Vaati. User:TazAJ

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Zant's disturbing. He gave me nightmares, and I respect him for that. (First anonymous vote!)
 * 2) Zant and vaati are both cool. But I have to go with Zant.
 * 3) As cool as Vaati is-having absorbed the Triforce of Time and all-, I think Zant is cooler. Anything dark, creepy, and totally insane gets my vote. Plus he cracks his own neck to kill Ganondorf.
 * 4) Zant is one funny dude.... and he's psychotic so he gets my vote.
 * 5) Zant gets my vote. He appears as badass villain, but he turns psycho. You can't get more evil and crazy than this.
 * 6) zant is so cool!
 * 7) Come on Zant! Evil insane people are fun. And Zant is the craziest boss EVER.
 * 8) You've got to love insane people(they go great with tomato sauce), also I'll always go for Twilight Princess characters better than Minish Cap.
 * 9) Zant all the way!
 * 10) Insane people are cool!
 * 11) Because Zant is the Usurper King!!!
 * 12) Zant is Psycho! He deserves to win!
 * 13) Zant is way better than Vaati.
 * 14) Zant is awesome.
 * 15) Zant, easily. Aside from Ganondorf himself, he's definitely the most intimidating Zelda villain around.
 * 16) Zant, because he is like Ganondorf's apprentice which makes him AWESOME!!!
 * 17) I love Zant his background story, its sad and awesome. He is just crazy. and his twilight power kills Vaati in no time.
 * 18) Zant would kill Vaati.
 * 19) Starts with Z 'nuff said
 * 20) "To merge shadow and light...and make darkness!" Very cool Zant.
 * 21) Zant's cool and aloof personality was just a front! Underneath is a powerful and insane mage that everyone loves. Besides, the mask can never be any cooler!
 * ok, apparently u guys need a little help. U GUYS R CRAZY!!!!! zant is way more popular and wayy better!! THERE


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I can't believe I missed last weeks fight. I always wanted the Mad Batter to be in one. I wish I could have given him my support. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:57, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

ughh! my 2 favorite villains in the zelda series which one, which one?--: Majora's   Warth's   Reincarnation  [ 11:23, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

DAAAAARN. Two awesomely awesome villains and no vote from me! Vaati's awesomely conniving, Zant's awesomely insane, and AnonymousNayru's awesomely indecisive! Isn't this awesome? (Oh gosh somebody's starting to sound like Gilbert...) AnonymousNayru

Why is it that Zant is low on votes?! I just don't get it.--Link in Termina (talk) 00:13, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

He's low on votes because vaati is awesome.--Fooster (talk) 16:23, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

VAAAAAAAAATI!!!!!!!!! GOOOOOO VAATI! (On a side note...how do you really pronounce Vaati's name? I always thought it was Vay-tee?)-- Wind  Mage   Master  16:37, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

>> Jajaja! Vaati would just turn into a God and smoosh Zant into a little black-square-speckled puddle. I've always pronounced his name as Vah-tee, but I've heard a bunch of different pronunciations. As is the case with a whole mess of Zelda characters. -Anonymous

i dont know who to pick i loved the minish cap and vaati is an awesome villain but me and zant are eerily similar,cool calm and collected most of the time but prone to bouts of insanity Ganondorf1994 (talk) 21:30, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Is it me or has the peanut slowly changed from trash talk and pointing out mistakes to write our indevsiveness, gloating, and complaints--: Majora's   Warth's   Reincarnation  [ 14:25, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

HMMMM....an evil sorcerer of the wind who turned Zelda into cold stone and almost awesomely became a god *VS* a nutcase that worships a so-called god and then got Xplow-ded by Midna's hair... Besides, Vaati's cap could grant wishes and Zant's helmet just hides his ugly flat-face.

It's still tied. Seesh! Also I note there isn't a good intro in the beginning.  Phoenixdaughter AM  14:52, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Dang, this is tough. But I am leaning slightly towards Vaati... --<font color="lime" style="background:black">MentalZ <font color="lime" style="background:black" size="2">Enter the Negative Zone

Very close this week. this may end up like Aveil and Cap'n Meep Meep (talk) 11:26, August 7, 2010 (UTC)                                                                                                                                        GO ZANT (CLAP, CLAP, CLAP) GO ZANT (CLAP, CLAP, CLAP)!!!!!--Link in Termina (talk) 12:33, August 7, 2010 (UTC)                                                                                                                     MentalZ, vote for Zant!!!! He's one of the best antagonists ever!! Hey Wind Mage Master; I think it's pronounced "Vay-tie"--Link in Termina (talk)

I usually pronounce it "Vah-tee" --<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 02:34, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Same here. So does pretty much everyone I talk to about the series, so I'm pretty sure it's Vah-tee. Anyway, 35-34 1/2! WHO WILL WIN?!?

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Week 109: Mad Batter vs. Sakon
{| style ="width: 100%;" LLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNNNNN! Brought to you by Soylent Green, it's the slightly awesome hundredandninth week in the TEMPLE. OF. COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOURAGE!!! This week, we have a battle against two slightly shifty looking, cave-dwelling characters found in only two games, two of which are direct sequels the game they first appeared. Let us meet our contestants in the ring, shall we?
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In the purple corner is a monstrous bat-like creature encountered in both Hyrule and on Koholint Island. He was sealed away from the outside world for mysterious reasons; when awakened, he threatens those who disturb its sleep with terrifying vengeance; however, the end result is always beneficial for the hero. THIS. IS. THE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTERRRRRRR!!!

In the brown corner is a sneaky-looking master thief found in both Hyrule and Termina. Not above robbing old ladies in the middle of the night, he keeps his stolen goods (that is, the surplus items which he does not fence) inside a secret cave near the eastern valley. He is also somewhat of an inventor, having created an elaborate security system to deter those clever enough to sneak into his lair. THIS. IS. SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKON!!!

The bat-creature is preparing a curse at this very moment, and the crafty thief is eyeing your valuables at this very minute, so LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMBLE!!!
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Votes for Mad Batter

 * 1) I love this guy! Ricorum (talk)
 * 2) Infinity times better Meep Meep (talk) 17:51, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Agreeing with Anonymous vote #1. --<font color="#FF0000">Пирог <font color=#000080>145
 * 4) Wow you can kill Sakon, who cares? You can kill Hiploops too, but I wouldn't be voting for them. I mean its a nice characteristic for an NPC, but I'd rather go with the insane bat demon over some weirdo who prances around. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 19:39, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Da name, look and personality are all better.--192 (talk) 21:20, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) I also agree with anon. -- Ignitiator
 * 7) Hey! Blast you for voting for Sakon! ...I mean, thanks a lot, guys! But now I will get my revenge on you. Get ready for it! ...Err, is that OK with you guys? - Is  drak  thül  22:05, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Sakon's cool and all, but Mad Batter is just a fantastic character.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  23:12, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) Half magic usage is a lot more useful then anything Sakon has ever done for me even if it wasn't intended to be helpful <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 23:16, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) Look at them! --Digdogger (talk) 00:39, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) This one of the few characters who makes me laugh out loud every time he/she/it is encountered. Jedimasterlink (talk) 02:37, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) Yeah Mad Batter--Tj hoffman (talk) 13:18, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) Sakon tiptoes around like a mentally defunct pansy.  He is a shame to thieves everywhere. AnonymousNayru
 * 14) He is one of the funniest and creative characters out there. I need to put my vote in for him.--Ingo the great (talk) 22:49, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) Sakon is cool, no question, but this is the goldurned Mad Batter we're talking about here! He'll curse me with an endless supply of gold (PRECIOUS GOLD! EEHEEHEEHEEHEE!!! GOLD!!!) if I anger him by not voting for him, so... oh crap, is it too late for me to vote Sakon now?!? --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  13:18, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) bat guy is cooler--Z81Z Robot (talk) 18:13, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) I thought he would win!Rusl 33 (talk) 01:54, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) The M.B. actually DOES SOMETHING instead of just running around Castle Town!
 * 2) The Mad Batter actually helps you instead of running around and beating up old ladies.
 * 3) The Mad Batter helps you out and his character is actually quite humourous :).
 * 4) Better dialogue.
 * 5) He looks better.
 * 6) i agree. he is too awesome and he's a dangerous creature. (kinda) better than a stupid running man.


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Votes for Sakon

 * 1) GO SAKON. He is a... heh... interesting character for me. He schemes like someone I know closer than anyone else!  A  m  a  z  i  n  g  L  i  n  k   (  O  f -<font color="bright green">H  y  r <font color="bright yellow">u  l  e  ) Link Artwork 1 (Ocarina of Time).png
 * 2) Sakon's Hideout is such an intense part of Majora's Mask. Three days of planning go to waste if you make a mistake here, and it's a worse punishment than a mere game over.  Portal-  Kombat
 * 3) I really don't like either of them but the sidequest for the couples mask was kind of fun --Longhorn Velez (talk) 15:34, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Yah sakon was really fun to ,murder  Michael Ryan  Talk  15:52, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) SAKON, SOAKON, SAKON, SAKON. he's a planner. Fooster (talk) 16:07, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Sakon isn't doing anything suspicious...really. He has a cool base, and I entered his base by performing the glitch (this was before I knew how to enter it). <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™  17:27, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) He is an unique NPC. Namely, you can kill him. |<font color="#003333">lun <font color="#336666">ar|<font color="#336666">Ch <font color="#003333">ild 18:56, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Why are all the good reasons always taken before I vote? <font color=#3ba0c5>Dawn Of A New Day  <font color=#3ba0c5>(is cool)  Deku Flight.png
 * 9) hey its a happy person gimme a hug!!! hey wered my wallet go...Devdude (talk) 21:04, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) ...nuff said. ♫prance♪prance♪prance♪prance♫ -starts prancing with Sakon- ^.^ ♫prance♪prance♪prance♪prance!♫ ~♫♪♫♪♫
 * 11) He's SAKON! and you can outright kill him! that's like a Zelda first!--Hylianhero777 (talk) 21:10, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) I don't remember Mad Batter, or what's his name, the same way I remember Sakon. -- Wind   Mage   Master  21:57, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) This guy is so evil.... stealing a mask from some1 :( hes walk is lame :) that are the reasons I vote for him--Yorick141 (talk) 21:20, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) Yea Sakon! Funlover63 (talk) 03:41, July 27, 2010 (UTC)Funlover63
 * 15) The Mad Batter is a great enemy,(because of how stupid he is)but if it wasn't for Sakon, we wouldn't have awesome sidequests!--Link in Termina (talk) 01:32, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) Tough choice. While Mad Batter has humor, Sakon...causes so much more trouble. And a problem. Let a lady get robbed or a couple get reunited. But if he causes enough trouble, you can always take out your anger.... Phoenixdaughter  AM  01:38, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) Just look at that smile Bjarnster (talk) 23:45, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) He's just epicer.  I ain't got a clue why I like him more, but I do.  God bless ya, Moi
 * 19) Sakon is one of those characters you say WTF!?!? every time you run into him --Amped0808 (talk) 04:13, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20) I like the way he walks/runs. Oddball 464 19:16, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) ...OoT/MM FTW... --<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 [[Image:Arwing.png|link=User:TheUltimateHokage88/Cameo|30px|]]22:12, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22) I really enjoyed the quest in his hideout. --Rohndogg1 (talk) 17:21, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 23) Hey, anyone with a grin that big can't be all bad! ;) Nayru's Maiden

Anonymous votes

 * 1) My vote goes to Sakon, hes got guts living in a haunted canyon
 * 2) I am first :) and sakon is fun to kill.
 * 3) This dude Is sneaky. That's why I like him!! GO SNEAKY THEIF!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOO!!!!
 * 4) This guy is really creepy. First he smiles all the time despite stealing... I remembered when he tried to steal my sword the first time... And because of this it was really funny to kill him.
 * 5) Sakon is part of a very cool sidequest and I don`t have a clue of who is that bat guy.Go MM!!!!
 * 6) Sakon is simply cooler and i love how Tatl attacks him. Tee Hee
 * 7) I love outright brutaly murdering him =D
 * 8) I'm not doing anything suspicious. Really. - Famous words of sakon
 * 9) The mad batter would only "curse" sakon and help him win.
 * 10) He's in Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask and I like both of those games better than A Link to the Past (I also like pie)also Sakon plays a bigger role in the Zelda story.
 * 11) Sakon funnier & better see my P.G. comment
 * 12) Sakon, for the most part is from Majoras Mask, and, I love that game. One other thing that is cool about him is, if you shoot a arrow at him when he steels the old lady from the Bomb Shop's bag, he blows up. That makes him the first non-playable being other than an enamy that Link can kill
 * 13) Sakon is just plain weird. WAY COOLER!!!!
 * 14) YOU KAN FREAKING KILLLLL HIM!!!!! (that is why I like him ( DIE!))
 * 15) I just dont know enough about the other guy
 * 16) Gooooooooooo, Sakon!  You hsve to hurry or you'll be late!


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MB would win in a fight, yes, most likely, but is he cooler...? NO!! -- Wind  Mage   Master  03:47, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with anon.#8 The mad battor would atempt to curse sakon but make him 20 feet tall or super powerful so that his prancing make earthquakes--: Majora's   Warth's   Reincarnation  [ 21:44, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Interestingly both give Alice in Wonderland references. CONICDENCE? I think NOT! Phoenixdaughter AM  01:33, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

MM always wins. Next fight should be diffrent! -- Wind  Mage   Master  17:18, July 28, 2010 (UTC)


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