Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage/Archive 32

Week 140: Ilia vs. Marin
{| style ="width: 100%;" LLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!! I welcome you to the 140th fight in the TEMPLE. OF. COUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRAAAAGE!!! This week's contestants are two feminine friends of our protagonist. Let's meet them now.
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In the green corner is our hero's childhood friend who hails from Ordon Village. When the hero hurts his horse, Epona, while jumping fences, she takes her to the healing Ordon Spring, but is taken away by evil forces. After her rescue, she is revealed to suffer from amnesia, and our hero attempts to retrace her journey to restore her lost memories. When he successfully does so, she gives the hero the Horse Call, which allows the hero to call upon his mount from most locations. THIS. IS. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILIAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

In the azure corner is another fine lady, residing on Koholint Island. When our hero is shipwrecked, she saves him and brings him to her home, where he mistakes her for Princess Zelda upon waking up. Subsequently, the hero encounters her many times throughout his quest, and learns from her the "Ballad of the Wind Fish", which is an important key to his escape from the island. At one point, she directly accompanies the hero in order to awaken a sleeping Walrus that blocks his path. During the very end, her greatest wish may be fulfilled depending on the actions of you, the player. THIS. IS. MARIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!

Who will win this battle (presumably over our hero)? I can't be sure, so LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRRRREADYYYYYYYYY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRUMMMMMMBLE!!!
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Votes for Ilia

 * 1) Ilia was creepy and annoying, yes, but that just made it more satisfying when Link killed her in the cutscene about the Interlopers. - Is  drak  thül  00:14, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) She may be crazy and evil but she doesn't make you drag her all over the world just so some mouse can take her picture. Also Ilia is only verbally abusive towards Link where Marin actually becomes physically abusive in her quest for being photographed. --Birdman5589 (talk) 21:11, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) I enjoyed swearing at her and laughing when she got kidnapped. I'm not sadistic... -- B  a s s  J  apas  23:30, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Played Twilight Princess silly and LA was just a gameboy game I played before I could even speak English. Qua design Marin wins, but Ilia was more interesting in my opinion.Mido did what?! (talk) 14:38, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) I feel so sorry for Illia when she loses her memory! Besides, I never played Link's Awakening.  Elfpixieprincess
 * 6) I haven't played LA. Also Illia seems a lot nicer than some girl who dumped Link to become a seagull (I mean, what? Seagull?). Also Illia is cuter. CABAL (talk)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Never played LA.
 * 2) Link's Awakening SUCKS. Twilight Princess on the other hand, is a great game. I would have voted for Marin because Ilia is useless if Link's Awakening was even mediocre.
 * 3) Just because.


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Votes for Marin

 * 1) Marin kicks ass, dude. Seagulls ftw. -Minish   Link  23:57, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Marin is awesome - she has awesome hair, she sings an awesome song, she lives on an awesome island, with awesome bros, and at the end she either gets wings (awesome) or becomes a seagull (awesome). She also has a crush on Link, d'aww. Marin also has some epic dialogue. Ilia is NOT awesome. She is ugly, stupid, she STOLE MY DAMN HORSE, she hits on Link and Link is like, WHOA HO, GTFO. She's also ugly and stupid. And human. And annoying. And she's creepy in that cutscene and SHE FALLS UPSIDE DOWN. Ilia is evil! -Stars  talk  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/pyroac/Starssprite.gif 00:01, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Ilia was weird. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:16, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) I Like Marin's hair.. ILIA IS WEIRD!! Who gets so mad just because there's a cut on a horse?? I Know who! CRAZY, WEIRD Ilia!! I also agree with Stars, she's creepy in the cutscene where she falls upside down. Marin is much better then her!-Links Girlfriend
 * 5) Marin is not going to win this because people don't like Ilia. She is going to win this because she is the embodiment of pure brilliance. I really don't think it would be an understatement to say she is one of if not the best female character in the series. Shes just a total win all round Oni Dark  Link 17:28, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) I like seeing the walrus fall down. Stalchild21
 * 7) ... -- Deku  Stick   Master  21:05, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) Marin is one of the first characters in the series with legitimate character development. Case closed. Jedimasterlink (talk) 03:02, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) "You got Marin!" should be all I need to say. But in case it's not, I agree w/ Jedi that Marin displayed decent character development, and with others that the Ballad of the Wind Fish she sings is awesome. Ilia, meanwhile, was a mediocre, undeveloped character at best, and an annoying one at worst. I guess it's not really her fault...being an amnesiac for most of the game makes it kind of hard to have a personality. Also, by the time she gives you the Horse Whistle, it's totally useless as you're already warping everywhere. Back to Marin, she made me feel really special for beating the game without dying, a tradition whose demise I lament. Plus, Marin was obviously the inspiration for Malon, who is also made of awesome. In short, MARIN, & anyone who thinks anything else is clearly wrong about everything, ever. Knives182 (talk) 04:12, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 10) Marin helps you in your quest multiple times, and is the reason you are still alive at the beginning of LA.  Illia impedes your progress repeatedly and is the whole reason why the children got kidnapped.  Need I say more?  --Hydropanda (talk) 02:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 11) Per me. As in, my opinion during the earlier ToC fight in which Marin was featured. I've nothing further to add. --Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  15:21, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) Marin Forever. --Ricorum (talk) 22:43, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) She was a far more interesting character, who actually seemed fleshed-out and made it feel like the game's writers actually wanted to make a character we could enjoy learning about. She's also a good singer, and she makes for some hilarious scenes in LA(though I cannot unsee the scene where Link holds her over his head like an item, all the while staring up with his mouth wide open). Little Orphan Annie Ilia wasn't unlikeable, but she just came across as bland and one-dimentional, almost like the game's designers were merely trying to give the shippers ANOTHER girl to pair up with Link in Twilight Princess. That's how many, five now? Sir Real (talk)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Somehow, Ilia's face looks awkward.. Besides, I love the Ballad of the Wind Fish, especially the version they made for and left out of Super Smash Bros. Brawl. And Marin's cute too.
 * 2) MEH.
 * 3) . Let's see...crazy lady who gives you an item that's pretty much useless since you can warp wherever you want to go and flips out over a tiny little scratch on a horse, or super special awesome lady who sings the best song in the Zelda series EVER, has more of a background, and helps you out more? My vote's going to Marin.
 * 4) I don't have anything agains Ilia, but Marin sings better and HELPS Link
 * 5) Most definitely Marin. I liked Illia but she didn't have a much of a story or as much character as Marin. Marin is also much nicer and prettier.


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Peanut Gallery
girl fight!

Catfight, indeed. I forgot to put this in my vote (anonymous vote #2 on Ilia's side), but Marin is also insane. Why would ANYbody want to turn into a seagull? An eagle or a falcon would be a much better choice for if you want to be a bird.

24.192.156.170, if you're going to edit the peanut gallery, please double space between comments. Otherwise, it looks like one comment. Anyway, I'd like you to elaborate on your unfounded hatred of Link's Awakening and Marin. Had you actually paid attention to the game, as well as the behavior of birds, you would notice that Marin doesn't just want to fly, she wants to be able to leave the island and travel across the sea. You know, where you see gulls? I don't think it's all that common to see an eagle or a falcon flying out to sea. I'm sorry if I sound like a prick, but I just can't stand to see someone spew hatred at something I love without even giving reasons. Sir Real (talk)

I see your point, Sir Real. I still don't like Marin or Link's Awakening, because I get annoyed when someone greets me with "THIEF!" when she's supposedly my friend. Also, Marin reminds me to much of annoying, seagull-fetish little sister Aryll from WW, and she just annoys the hell out of me. LINk ''' 11


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