Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks/Archive 1

This is... AWESOME!!! Portal- Kombat

Reminds me of those old "Valley of the Flood" rumors or whatever that talked about a more modern Hyrule. I wonder what other technology will be introduced in the series besides trains? As long as they're making this game different they might as well make it have many differences. And even if it isn't Zelda Wii I'm excited to see news on another Zelda game, plus screenshots and a trailer. Portal- Kombat

Ah, I got overly excited when I searched this on youtube. I also thought it was the new Zelda wii. By the current title, it seems there's a bit of focus on trains, and I'm not sure how epic that'll be. Like a few people have said, I wasn't too happy with Phantom Hourglass. Very pointless story wise. Really, it brought nothing new to the table. But enough about that. I sincerely hope that this game is distinct in some way shape or form. No doubt it's a filler game, but hopefully they put a good story into it. -- Daydreamer  3173 

Hold on. Who said anything about this delaying Zelda Wii? As far as I know there are two different Zelda teams, one working on this, and another on the Wii. I doubt it will be delayed because of this. After all TP wasn't delayed because TMC was coming out.--ShutUpNavi 23:42, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Come on, guys. Give the game a chance. After seeing just one trailer, you've already decided this game will fail spectacularly. One video is not enough to merit a verdict. --76.215.78.143 00:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

But it seems the only reason people think it will suck is because it looks like Phantom Hourglass...and maybe the train. That simply isn't fair. --76.215.78.143 01:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Grr... This doesn't look good. I felt that Phantom Hourglass was just an excuse to give WW a sequel, but it looks like they've came up with something... even worse. But I won't give up hope yet... it's in the Adult timeline, so that may mean a Vaati appearance. Vaati ( Talk to Vaat) 01:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

My sentiments exactly, T14, I don't really mind if they take a while to give us an awsome game, rather than rush it and release a crappy one. By the way, how do I get the cool text boxes almost everyone else has, and I could use a little help figuring out to get images onto my user page. User:Iriadinh, Hero of Air

I'm completely clueless about editing stuff, I have no idea how to make/find/use sandbox, someone come to my talk where this should be discussed, and try to teach me the ropes, or at least get me started. I know I'm disapointed about not getting anything on Zelda: Wii today, I'm a ginormous fan of anything Zelda, and the wait is killing me. user: Iriadinh, Hero of Air

i cant believe it. the one day i get sick stuck in bed with a computer is the one day of every single day of the year were we hear about the new zelda. just my look >:( (o and incase anyones wondering i am still sick and dieing with stomach pains) Oni Dark   Link 11:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

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((I'm actually hoping that if it is in the Adult Timeline, that it is a prequel to TWW. "Project Deluge" was supposed to possibly explain the flood as it was a prequel to TWW, trains and all, and I really love the idea of seeing the events of the great flood. I'd really love to see "Spirit Tracks" go in that direction! ^_^ Sailormoonbeam02 (talk) 17:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)))

I'm also fairly disappointed at the looks of this. The graphics are...ok..., seeing as it is the DS and not a major console, but I have to say the train part sort of worries me. I have to agree with the other comments posted on this page which are uncomfortable with this radical advance in technology as compared to the usual fantasy style ships and horses and swords, etc. I mean....trains? In a place that may not be Hyrule but is supposed to be the new one...Does this mean that they want to slowly advance the technology until it meets that of our time or something? Will we eventually be seeing Link equipped with an atomic bomb or something? I hope not. Also, in response to Sailormoonbeam, I really can't see Spirit Tracks happening before Wind Waker and Hyrule being covered in train tracks, which are all washed away and the whole of the people reverting back to ships and whatnot. I'm sure an advance in technology would prompt other advances (You can't ride a train between islands but you would expect a civilization with this kind of technology to have other matching advances. I'm fairly sure the idea (I wasn't sure if it's confirmed or not, I thought I read something about it being 100 years after Phantom Hourglass?) of it being a sequel is much more likely. Though, I would also like to know about the events of the Great Flood. There's so much of the Zelda timeline we have yet to fully understand... User:Light and Shadow Aerwyn Caladhiel Elena Telcontar 14:06, 19 July 2009 (UTC) 14:06, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

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the name of the new land
Tried to edit out the name "Hyrule" in the sentence pertaining to the new land and had it reverted. If you remember, the King of Hyrule tells the kids the land they shall find will not be named "Hyrule," but will be their own land. It's one of the major themes at the end of Wind Waker.24.239.162.254 17:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops. I stand corrected.24.239.162.254 17:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Safe zone
Number one, what is WITH these speech bubbles here? It's impossible to read these discussions without going insane... Two, the safe zone the article mentions doesn't necessarily mean Link will be timed. What comes to mind more is that the phantom guardian's couldn't enter them. And don't we control a guardian-esque figure in this game? 76.174.70.156 05:10, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Given some time, the speech bubbles are.. okay-ish. I'm just not a fan, so apologies for the harsh wording. 76.174.70.156 05:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. Would you be opposed to having the no-guardian-person-enter theory added alongside the timed-dungeon theory? 76.174.70.156 05:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The tiles themselves have nothing to do with the timer; time continues to slip by whether you're in a glowing area or not. The core mechanic of the light zone is to hide oneself from the guardians, which is why I felt like that should be included. Also, while there's no confirmation that the guardian-like figure is really a Phantom Guardian, it sure looks like one, and we have the glowing zones in the trailer too. And the guardian follows paths that are suspiciously like stylus-drawn lines. Link also stops moving while the line is being drawn. 76.174.70.156 05:31, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The tiles themselves have nothing to do with the timer; time continues to slip by whether you're in a glowing area or not. The core mechanic of the light zone is to hide oneself from the guardians, which is why I felt like that should be included. Also, while there's no confirmation that the guardian-like figure is really a Phantom Guardian, it sure looks like one, and we have the glowing zones in the trailer too. And the guardian follows paths that are suspiciously like stylus-drawn lines. Link also stops moving while the line is being drawn. 76.174.70.156 05:31, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The tiles themselves have nothing to do with the timer; time continues to slip by whether you're in a glowing area or not. The core mechanic of the light zone is to hide oneself from the guardians, which is why I felt like that should be included. Also, while there's no confirmation that the guardian-like figure is really a Phantom Guardian, it sure looks like one, and we have the glowing zones in the trailer too. And the guardian follows paths that are suspiciously like stylus-drawn lines. Link also stops moving while the line is being drawn. 76.174.70.156 05:31, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * My apologies, it must have been longer than I thought since I last played. I could've sworn... Anyways, I've come up with my own theories surrounding the Temple of the Ocean King and its denizens, but I'm sure we've had enough erroneous theorizing for one night. 76.174.70.156 05:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

zelda wiki
wow zelda wiki's article on spirit tracks is useless.

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thus were better Oni Dark   Link 16:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC) SV undefined

release
is there a more exact release date then just later this year? and is later this year for the japanese release. that would mean it'll be another six months before it gets to europe. Oni Dark   Link 11:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

i think the hype is over now. when new info comes out people wont be as excited i expect but still archiving might be smart Oni Dark   Link 16:31, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

To answer the original question, there is no exact release date, Nintendo's site says Holiday 2009. It has been guessed that it will come out December 1st but this has not been confirmed. --Nunovanhalen (talk) 20:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Plot section
I think the plot section contains too many information that are just speculative in nature and information that is not related to the plot at all. -- Champion Kai (talk) 23:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

the only thing i can tell is that your a mail man that's itDRTJR (talk) 16:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)DRTJR

In the new DS Zelda your a mail man that's the only story thingy released yet thus you are a mail man in The Legend of Zelda Spirit Tracks DRTJR (talk) 00:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)DRTJR

if the Gerudo come back in this game i would not write it off but so far this could be the only "bad" zelda game DRTJR (talk) 00:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)DRTJR

But Zelda II is awesome in it's right, had the Zelda series followed that archetype instead of the Zelda I rchetype, now they would be as good if not possibly better Champion Kai (talk) 16:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

new trailer
im detrimened to keep open minded about this game. i disliked phantom hour glass one of the reasons being the lack of a lot weapons (yet i like zelda ii) but this game does appear to be bringing new weapons to the field like that whip. such a simple idea i've been waiting for so long in the zelda series that just never appeared. which brings me to the part of spirit track pages. should we get a early start and begin making pages for these new weapon? Oni Dark  Link 10:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

the Deku Leaf Pinwheel of Doom will definetly be a better name then what they will come up with. Oni Dark  Link 10:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I just uploaded the new E3 trailer. --Twilightwizard0309 (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

i think maybe leaving it out would be best. its on top of the gallery. bsides it doesnt show that much new stuff only a whip and a train boss. Oni Dark  Link 11:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Not a direct sequel to PH
I read in an interview with Miyamoto somewhere (If I find I'll post) that Spirit Tracks was not a direct sequel to Phantom Hourglass and that it takes place 100 years After Phantom Hourglass. It would explain the land and Princess Zelda, and why there are Steam Trains (There was steamboats so train wasn't very far off.). Thoughts should be added to article perhaps?

Phantom Hourglass was not a direct sequel to Phantom Hourglass and that it takes place 100 years After Phantom Hourglass. i think you made a mistake with the first two words. but i ask what in the video would suggest it is a sequel. apart from the graphics noting. and did it say he was an apprentice engineer? i know it said 100 years but i cant quite remember now maybe it did. maybe i just dont like the idea Oni  Dark  Link 15:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

((Maybe it'll be a prequel to TWW, so we can see the events of the flood. The first thing I thought of when I saw the preview was the supposed "Project Deluge" that floated about last year. If details of "Spirit Tracks" were leaked and spread about the internet, and "Project Deluge" was based upon said details (trains, steam power), it's possible we may have a game that could directly show the results of the "Great Flood." Sailormoonbeam02 (talk) 17:08, 6 June 2009 (UTC)))

It is possible Link was at the "Great Flood" but he wasn't related to the Hero of Time.

Yeah I screw up sometimes <_< I'm pretty sure the interview with Miyamoto was with IGN. I can't exactly look since i've topped my download limit and going on 45kb/s.

link never appeared during the great flood remember. so him being there makes me doubt that unless he really was there but ultimately failed to stop gganondorff. Oni Dark  Link 10:22, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Link could have appered during the "Great Flood" but he failed because he wasn't related to the Hero of Time. Kevin5593 Talk

I just always find this so strange. Link always beats Ganondorf, and he's pretty much some other Link's descendant. If someone showed up, I would have to conjecture it wasn't Link, because whoever thought of him not being related? But then, if it wasn't Link, what's the point of making it a Zelda game? User:Light and Shadow 14:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Just a Couple of Months
already have it booked Oni Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 13:23, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I bet on Dec. 6 we'll get a message saying that it won't be out for another year! DX That's what's happenned to the last few games I anticipated!

wait a second it hasnt been announced when it will be released in japan? that seems slightly strange. I wouldnt of been surprised if it was released around now in japan <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 18:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Tww was a fantastic game, and is my favorite zelda game. Back then, toon link was fun and cool. Then came Ph, arguably one of the worst zelda games( it still beats Loz2 AoL) an it made toon link dorky ( though Bellum is a awesome enemy. And now TRAINS? Dear god, sometimes I wonder if 4kids secretly bought toon link. Zelda wii looks awesome, but I hope they give it a cool name like twilight princess.The Shadow Monarch 125 (talk)

have a look at this
http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/DS/27977_the_legend_of_zelda_spirit_tracks.jpg

shows linebeck. And also if you look closely at the text it talks of the wind spirits dieing and the sea drying up which i think could give extra meaning to ganondorfs dieing words in wind waker. Does anyone know what box cover this is? id need to know to add it in. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 11:55, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Umm, I shouldn't have to point out that this is a fan-made cover. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  12:43, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

i dont see any clear indication that it is but thats why i decided to see what every one else thought before adding anything. in fact id rather its fan made because that story info looks too much like its there just to fit into a timeline. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 13:37, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * o wait i see something now in the bottom left hand courner confirming its fan made <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 13:39, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think this is the same thing, and it says it's unofficial. —<font color=#00009C>Lisa <font color=#A76BCF>URAQT   19:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

almost aof vgboxart is fan made so this is probably fake.--Ironknuckle1 22:13, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

New Trailer = New Info
Just saw the new trailer for spirit tracks, and it showed some new info. It showed a dark energy (not sure how best to describe it) destroying a large tower, after which the train tracks Link was using vanished, forcing his train to come to a complete stop. Following this, what appeared to be a demonic train appeared, followed by what might be the main villain (or a minion) who cast some kind of spell on Zelda (who was apparently riding on the train with a guard that greatly resembled a pirate from Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass). What might have been the light force (or triforce shard, unsure) floated out of her and she carried off as Link (apparently beaten) watch on.

Zelda reappears (apparently as a spirit, possibly giving rise to the games title) later on and appears to be Link's partner. At one point in the new trailer the Phantom Guardian (seen beforehand) appears before Link, ready to attack him, before Zelda possessed it (explaining why the guardian has pink eyes.)

I know this probably seems jumbled up, though once you guys see the new trailer it should make more sense of what I'm saying. Dark Ridley (talk) 06:09, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, just found out about this on IGN. There's a tad bit more info to be found there as well as some new artwork/ screenshots. Here is the link for it. Anyways looks like it's time to get going and start adding in the new info.--ShutUpNavi (talk) 22:52, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Japan Release
dont be stupid the odds are 0.00000000000005% <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:05, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

no its true and the japanesse arent very happy about it. Being the most advanced and coolest race in the world i wouldnt say there not thinking of destroying america with their invisible nucs for this <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:13, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

DSWII. the portable wii conesole. Hae fun waving your arms around anywhere <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:29, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Music
should here the reorchestrated version of the trailer music for spirit tracks <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 00:19, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

intro
"The spirits of good came down from the heavens to battle this foe" this sounds very similar to the back story of minish cap refering to the piccori. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 12:35, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Dungeons + Overall Length
i dont consider the temple of the ocean king a dungeon. It doesnt have a bosses key, proper mini boss or even a dungeon weapon. But five can work if its done well like minish cap for example. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 18:09, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

im not saying actual numbers im just pointing out a hand hald game that could of done with more dungeons. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 21:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

what about the safe zone in the trailer? <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 11:47, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

maybe. looks lie were just going to have to wait to see what the whole thing is going to be like <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 14:30, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Bosses
So we already know about Stagnox. And we already have artwork of a Fire Golem boss, who we know nothing about. Why do we not have an article about the fire/ice boss in the new trailer? We at least know a few things about him! --Nunovanhalen (talk) 21:34, November 22, 2009 (UTC)