Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage



Welcome to the Temple of Courage, where various characters from the Legend of Zelda series battle out on a semi-weekly basis! You, the people, are the deciding factors in these matches. Functionally, all of these battles are popularity contests and not "battles" as such. For instance, in a boss vs. boss fight, we suggest that you vote for the one you like the most rather than whether or not one enemy would beat another in a legit fight. This is only a suggestion, though.

You can suggest a fight or vote or comment on others on the suggestions sub-article.

Rules

 * You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that week.
 * You may only vote once.
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 * Don't try to rig the votes by entering multiple votes; these pages are regularly patrolled and you WILL face consequences if you are caught.
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Week 81: Mothula (The Wind Waker) vs. Stagnox
{| style ="width: 100%;" LLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! After a delay that by Temple of Courage standards is the equal of Chinese Democracy, we bring you the 81st week of the TEMPLE. OF. COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOURAAAAAAAAAAGE! This week we have two dangerous giant bugs primed and ready for combat, the delay only increasing their ferocious bloodlust! Draw your eyes to the center ring, if you please!
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In the purple corner, we have a winged insect who guards the Forbidden Woods. Its spawn are small pests that slow one down. THIS. IS. MOOOOOOOOOTHULAAAAAAA!

In the light brown corner is a newcomer to The Legend of Zelda &mdash; being an oversized stag beetle who guards the Forest Temple. THIS. IS. STAAAAAAAAAAGNOX!

And now, before we all are consumed by flying miniatures of this week's fighters...LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET READY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Votes for Mothula

 * 1) Mothula is technically my least favorite miniboss from TWW, but I just found Stagnox boring...not to mention she has no thorax that I can see. And yes, Stagnox is female because she releases larvae from her abdomen. Speaking of which, she should be laying eggs, but that's a flaw Mothula has too, so I'll let that one slide.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  18:38, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I don't know why, but I found that Mothula is better because bug... things it shoots out. It's like one gives you its weakness, Stagnox, while the other tries to be an annoying miniboss. Mothula just was a better miniboss, then Stagnox was as a boss! - McGillivray227 '''(talk)
 * 3) Fighting Mothula was always more fun, and much more fast-paced. I got bored of Stagnox like I got bored of the train after I fought him four times in Take 'Em All On. Portal-  Kombat
 * 4) Stagnox was the most pathetic boss every. She would have been better as a mini-boss. Mothula on the other hand is at least puts up a fight. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:58, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) The mothulas were just my favorite Wind Waker enemies. I'd use more of my twisted humor, but I don't feel like it.--RH 02:18, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) I thought Mothula was fun to fight. I don't have any Stagnox experience, but...I don't know. Nothing seems appealing about it. Besides, it's fun to set Mothulas on fire with the Fire Arrow... Jedimasterlink (talk) 03:14, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) Mothulamothulamothulamothula
 * 2) Mothula is an awsome creature. this was one of the most annoying creatures in the game. the fly just out of reach and consistently charge down to ram its foes. it also hampers its foes with little spiked balls the weigh you down. the only pathetic detail is when you chop off its wings, its a reletively easy creature (which after a lot of frustration, you may consider it a reward to mercelesly kill that monster that was bugging you before).


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Votes for Stagnox

 * 1) Stagnox's boss battle is the epitome of all that is awesome in the DS Zeldas. instawin. ShadowDialga (talk) 23:53, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Mothula is cool. Okay, he IS cool. But Stagnox- STAGNOX. I mean, you can just hear the "I'm awesome and I'm out to get you" in his name. If it ends in an X, it's awesome. Stagnox is so tough it takes SPIKED BOMB BUG THINGS to kill him. Yeah. -Minish Link
 * 3) Mothula is, like, a lame pun on Dracula or something. Stagnox is so awesome he has become a saying on the shoutbox. Enough said. Let's just end the ToC right now. Good? Good. --Auron  Kaizer !  14:15, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) The fact that Mothula can be felled in one hit and the fact that Stagnox is pure epicness its no wonder my vote goes this way. Stagnox has to be one of the best first bosses in the game. (although Aquamantis is pretty epic too) Oni Dark  Link 14:33, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) I would almost vote for Mothula, but you do anything and Mothula shoots those pine cone things at you. Stagnox has class, he ALMOST hits you with those...oh my THEY ARE WHAT? ComeBackKing
 * 6) Stag Beetles pwn Moths anyday. Giant Stag Beetles still epically pwn Giant Moths. Just look at him. HE'S A GIANT STAG BEETLE. Whats not to like? - Stars xxx
 * 7) I HATE moths, and Stagnox´s battle is WAY more epic and fun. Although, Mothula is OK, but Stagnox takes the price in here. --The Gerudo Guy (talk) 19:37, January 12, 2010 (UTC) The Gerudo Guy
 * 8) Mothra and Dracula? I don't think so. Stagnox is a boss and Mothula is a mini-boss with pathetic children without wings. Stagnox takes the win for being a fresh approach to old tactics. User:HeroofAwesome
 * 9) Stag Beetles > Moths. BTW, those "Spiked bomb bug things" are called Blastworms. -- DekuStick Master
 * 10) Stagnox was cool. Very intimidating. Awesome music, too. In fact, I've beaten him several times, thanks to Take 'Em All On. I've never played Wind Waker, anyway. (But I want to!) Ceiling Master (talk) 20:58, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) Don' t have anything against Mothula, but Stagnox is way cooler. I mean, where else can you find a giantic insect so awesome that it makes Blastworms come out of nowhere? --Pkmns (talk) 20:59, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) I haven't played WW but Stagnox really made me realize that Spirit was gonna be awesome.--DarkTriforce (talk) 00:31, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) Stagnox was a great first boss to a awesome new game, and mothula was just a regular enemy used as a mid boss,so my vote is for stagnox!--Doubleg2x 20:37, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) What do you think will win? A giant stag beetle or a pathetic moth?
 * 2) Stagnox is a boss.
 * 3) Think about it, A collassal Beetle with armour that can fly or a moth that lays eggs /babiz and fly!!!
 * 4) Being annonomous voter number three from last fight, even though i am insane, i must still fight for the boss, not an annoying miniboss.-Meep Meep


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Peanut Gallery
Isn't Stagnox a Boss?
 * You has a good point. Under pressure, I get stuff like that wrong a lot of the time. --Auron  Kaizer !  14:38, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I get stuff wrong without pressure Oni Dark Link 16:40, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

This is why I hate bug fights. We can tell Mothula and Stagnox are both female because they release larvae from their abdomens. It's obvious, I would think. Yet people still insist on using male pronouns.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  18:38, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

They could be marsupeals and keep their young in hidden pouches. Oni Dark Link 19:19, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Possible, but realistically unlikely given that their real-life counterparts do nothing of the sort. Nintendo probably isn't smart enough to do stuff like that anyway. Besides, if you're going to assume a gender when using gender specific pronouns, it's better to use the one that is 70% more likely, in this case that the two are female.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  19:24, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Id say Mothula would be female but Stagnox just looks very like an angry male. Look at those eyes. And as you said they should be laying eggs anyway so it doesnt make much sense all round. Oni Dark Link 19:26, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you serious? You're basing the gender of a BEETLE on the assumptions of how can find the gender of a HUMAN? That is beyond absurd. And as I said (and gave reasons for), it makes far more sense than them being male.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  19:29, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no way we can really know for sure <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 19:32, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, they never explicitly tell us Armogohma's gender. Maybe it's really a male that lays eggs even though that makes no sense but you know it's possible because Hyrule doesn't follow the same rules as the real world. That's the kind of logic you're using here.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  19:36, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes thats the exact logic im using <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 19:38, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  19:40, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's weird. That's exactly my what my answer would be. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  20:37, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Seahorse males are the ones that give birth. It could be something like that, or maybe the bugs are asexual. Or maybe it's a freaking video game.-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 23:09, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Like I said. Certainly possible but unlikely given the situation.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:03, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

The Gohma from OoT is called Queenie by the deku scrubs and she does have larva come out into battle if you take to long to beat her (I think), so the laws of nature (at least in our world) are in effect in that case at least.Zoma89
 * But in general natural laws dont make sense. I mean look at how different each gohma incarnation is. They range from being the boss of a tree to being the boss of a volcano. Having six legs or having sixty. <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 21:45, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uhhhhhh.....what exactly is your point? If anything, you're noting evolution occurring with Gohmas, which is a natural law (or at least for the people that aren't creationists).  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:03, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Your both at fault here. Even comparing natural laws to something like Zelda is just......ehh? Xykeb is right from a real-world stand point, and Oni is right from a in-game standpoint. Thusly, your both wrong and stuck in an impass.-- C  2  / C C  00:43, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats actually false. You can be a creationist and believe in evolution. Your thinking of the Old Testament vs. modern science. And on that note this is the worst ToC we have ever had in my opinion and I will not be voting. How it even went through is beyond me, seeing as it was removed the other day. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:44, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whatever, then evolution is a natural law in all respects. And CC....nah, I'm not even going to say it. I give up. Believe what you want. I'm done. And while I don't particularly care for the fight, I wouldn't say it's the worst one we've ever had. Of course, what I consider the worst one we've ever had is considered one of the best by some people, so I guess that's kind of a moot point.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Did it deal with a game vs. dungeon? --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:56, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's exactly it.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  01:02, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's was the voting in the suggestions that got us here. We need to lighten up, and treat the suggestions as suggestions, not as a main event. It kinda detracts from the ToC with me. -- C  2  / C C  01:05, January 13, 2010 (UTC)


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Week 80: Carpet Merchant vs. Gwonam
{| style ="width: 100%;" size=5 color="black">Winner! "Carpet Merchant" 25>23.5 LLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNN! For the 80th time, Zeldapedia Corps Group, Inc. brings you the TEMPLE. OF. COURAGE! And this week, we have two bearded old men who like to rip off and confuse people (try to guess which does what) and fly around on magic carpets for no apparent reason other than to perpetuate lame stereotypes. Draw your eyes to the center ring!
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In the brown corner is a bearded gentleman who floats around in a desert, tricking unsuspecting adventurers into paying a whole lot of money for what they believe to be the Lost Sword of D'olgo'th'th'th'th'th'th'th'th, but in truth are only completely optional remote controlled bombs. THIS. IS. THE CAAAAAAAAAAAAARPET MERCHANT!

In the pinkred-ish corner is a great fortune-teller(?) who dabbles in prophecy. Most Zelda fans deny his very existence; however, his random utterings have become the stuff of Internet memes. THIS. IS. GWOOOOOOOOOOONAM!

And now, to once and forever settle the dispute of who is the more hated character who flies a carpet to work, it is time. Say it with me now...SQUADALA, WWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'RE OFFFFFFFFF!!!
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Votes for Carpet Merchant

 * 1) I prefer weirdos that sit on a flying carpet in the middle of a sandstorm. Oh, an I also prefer real video games. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:37, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Merchants are better than people that speak random. Also, he looks like the greatest hippie of all hippies! - McGillivray227 '''(talk)
 * 3) As much as I hate this hippie, there is something disturbing about an old man in a purple bath robe and pink shower cap. --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:52, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) i absolutely hate what the philips cdi games have done to youtube plus this guy lets you practice sword stuff in MMDevdude (talk) 02:43, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) He's an actual Zelda Character. I do not tolerate cd-i.--RH 17:55, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) he can a bombuchu to blow the other guy up ! --Yorick141 (talk) 19:07, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) I remember when MM came out and and everyone was talking about hidden cheats in the game, everyone wanted to get the sword on the wall in his place. Needless to say it didn't work but its a fond Zelda memory. And oh yeah, is that his hair or his mustache? ComeBackKing
 * 8) I vote just cuz of the hair, I mean LOOK AT IT!  --Hydropanda
 * 9) Don't know the other guy is but i think the carpet Merchants cooler anyway. Zoma89
 * 10) I don't particularly like the Carpet Merchant, but at least he's from a real Zelda game. Ceiling Master (talk) 00:45, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) He has a funny looking afro...Zebras are Mean  Ray Talk 2 me 22:22, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) I Have never even heard of the other guy, but the carpet Merchant is the man. Tj hoffman (talk) 06:57, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) "I am selling stuff, strange and rare, from all over the world to everybody" <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 20:53, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) I never knew this guy existed until years after my first playthrough!!!!! --Egos There (talk) 22:34, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) I agree with anon number three. Solar flute (talk) 03:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) Gwonam is not Canonical and therefore does not exist. LONG LIVE THE CANON!!! User:HeroofAwesome
 * 17) I think only appearing in one of the worst games ever should automatically disqualify Gwoman.Jrg4444 (talk)
 * 18) I agree with Jrg4444.Anything remotely CD-i related is not Zelda canon,in my eyes.--Farore.din.nayru (talk) 00:29, January 10, 2010 (UTC)farore.din.nayru (talk)
 * 19) I agree with the two above comments. User:TheUltimateHokage88 (talk)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) I like his 70's look!
 * 2) You wish you were as smart as him when you were selling stuff.
 * 3) Squadala!  Were off!  It is said only LINK can defeat ganon!  Ganon has seized the isle of koridai!  After a couple minutes of that on youtube I completely lost it.  Besides, the carpet merchant has....... A BIGGER FRICKEN CARPET!  GWONAM AND HIS CDI GAME ARE PURE EVIL!!!!!!! As you can clearly see I am still insane.
 * 4) I always liked his business management skills. You know. The ones you never had. And the fact that he's from one of the best games of all time makes him the obvious winner.
 * 5) I HATE this guy. But at least he's canon.
 * 6) I detest the CD-i series. Plus, MM is my favourite game. So I guess I'll vote for this guy.
 * 7) Bombs=win.
 * 8) I refuse to vote for any, I said ANY CHARACTER FROM THE CD-I's!!
 * 9) This guy was amazing. I never did find out if all his hair grew that way, or if his mustache grew that way. But the fact that he is in a REAL Zelda game makes him an epic winner!
 * 10) Not many people can scam Link that way. His hair/mustache/whatever is cool, also.
 * 11) He was the best con artist ever. I also hated the CDi version with an intense passion.
 * 12) I have to give the Carpet Merchant my vote. He's got wicked hair and even better business skills.


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Votes for Gwonam

 * 1) It is written; only Dinner can defeat The Pit. And I hate that merchant so much; more than I do the record industry for actually charging people money for music made by Muse! Toilet paper should be free, or at the very least cheap. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  00:31, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Nothing, except perhaps King Harkinian, CATS, Error, and Miley Cyrus, can achieve the infamy that Gwonam inspires. He is one of the central pain inflicters of terrible video game lore. And what does the Carpet Merchant do? He overprices some stuff. No comparison really.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:45, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) It is written, only your sword and The Map are enough to find my house! YOU and your minions have seized the birds! Ah, Gwonam, we've had such fun together.-- MaloMart  ( talk ) Malo.png 01:03, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Old Man Afro there just over charges some Bombchu's, Gwonam take's you through an entire crappy game. Nuff said.--  C  2  / C C  01:08, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Gwonam inspires a debate within myself: exactly what is the nature of non-existence? Gwonam has achieved infamy despite the fact that his only real role is in a game that doesn't exist. SQUADALA Jedimasterlink (talk) 01:34, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) SQUADALA! And the Carpet guy scams you so badly its not even funny. plus, his hair is so big that i'm surprised he doesn't fall off the carpet. User:DekuStickMaster
 * 7) He says one of my favorite lines ever: "See how Harlequin captures Koridians?"  Portal-  Kombat
 * 8) Heh, I had soooooooooooo much fun watching the mindless YouTube poops. So stupid, yet somehow so hilarious. SQUADALA FTW, baby! —<font color=#00009C>Lisa  <font color=#A76BCF>URAQT  Tetra.png 03:16, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) This guy is obviously a beast. I mean come on? Squadala? Best line ever. User talk:Hello Doggy
 * 10) SQUADALA! *#*#*#enso8#*#*#* (talk)
 * 11) i've seen this guy enouph times in youtube poops to know thet he's better then a afro dude who sells u over priced bombachus. oh ya, and Squadala is epic. User talk:Doubleg2x
 * 12) THIS IS SCAMMER! TO THE LEFT! annoying is better than being cheated.-Toasty9001
 * 13) Really I wasn't sure who either of them are since i haven't played this game and haven't played OoT in 5 years. Now I remeber who the carpet merchant is and how he scammed me grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Plus this guy has a catchphrase I'm voting for him. Tabs34
 * 14) Only because I don't vote for con-men. <font color="SteelBlue">Yowuza  yadderhouse | meh 17:15, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) It is written that only toasters can defeat the birds! Besides, his quote "Here is a map: where do you wish to go?" backwards answers what Harkinian has for dinner: "What shall we eat now? Ham? Zee nice!" YouTube is awesome. Oh yeah, SQUADALA! --Majora4Prez (talk) 02:55, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) It is written, only BOMBS can defeat MAH BOI! Gwonam is Beast! and of course, you know what I have to end my comment with... SQUADALA!!!!!!!! Hylianhero777 (talk) 15:27, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) [Your majesty,][Bowser][and his][Koopalings][have seized][all the][foods][in the world.][It is written: Only][Dr. Rabbit] [can defeat][Bowser] Oddball 464 20:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) Wow! The CD-i games are so very overlooked just because of their crappy controls, but I enjoyed the characters and their wacky ways :) Gwonam's got my vote!Draconicus (talk) 03:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 19) If this is a contest of who is hated more, I'm definitely voting for Gwonam. I never even met the carpet merchant, and his Termina counterpart is pretty cool. I'll admit it, I have actually laughed at Gwonam quite a few times in his Youtube Poop appearances. After all of those stupid lines of his...in the words of LittleKuriboh, aka CardgamesFTW, "Just do it already, you offensive stereotype!" The non-canon guy gets my vote. Sir Real
 * 20) Squadala! We're off!--DarkTriforce (talk) 23:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) Can the Carpet Merchant claim to have his own Uncyclopedia mention, or YouTube video? I don't think so. And seriously, BombChus? Outside of PH, do those things even mater? Sincerely, Watcher.

Anonymous votes

 * 1) SQUADALA! 'nuff said
 * 2) come on, Gwoman v.s a ugly guy, gwman should win .the only thing i got to say is SQUADALA!
 * 3) Gwonam may be strange and annoying, but at least he doesn't cheat people out of their hard-earned rupees.
 * 4) S-Q-U-A-D-A-L-A.
 * 5) Squdala indeed!


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Peanut Gallery
@XYZ: I think Old Man would be included in that listing <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 00:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I CAN"T TAKE IT ANYMORE! Once they get into my head I have to say them! Curse you for bringing this out, Gwonam! TOAST SPAGHETTI DINNER MAH BOI YOU MUST DIE ENCLOSED INSTRUCTION BOOK BOMBS MMMMM THIS IS ILLEGAL YOU KNOW THAT'S MAMA LUIGI TO YOU! Phew! It's all out now.-- MaloMart ( talk )  03:50, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * BOOUIGI! --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  03:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I wonder how ashamed we'll all feel if/when a CD-i character wins the Temple of Courage.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  07:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * You voted for it. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 15:47, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * If he does, well whatever happens to ZP, I still have my wiki to fall back on--RH 17:59, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Careful now; it's so full of holes it might just collapse if you fall. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  19:07, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is the one thing I hate about MM using the same character models as OoT. At least one person always think we're talking about the character from the game we're not talking about about.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  23:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * The MM models have slightly more vertices most of the time though, thanks to the Expansion Pak...not that anyone but really OCD graphic freaks could tell the difference. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  23:26, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

@PK: Those smaller lines are often overlooked as the comedic gems that they are. Personally, my favorite Gwonam line (besides the obvious) is "At last, you have the vision to find my house!"-- MaloMart ( talk )  01:16, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

"...only completely optional remote controlled bombs." Actually, they're needed in the Spirit Temple, so they aren't completely optional. You just don't have to buy them. Whirligig (talk) 02:22, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, you can just throw a normal bomb at that rock. If you time it so the Bomb explodes when it's at the apex of its trajectory, you will hit the rock. Though I didn't try that until my third playthrough of the game... Jedimasterlink (talk) 04:17, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a room in Ganon's Castle (either the Spirit or Light section) that requires Bombchus.-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 05:12, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Those who hate on carpet merchant for his scam, at least the bombchus work, unlike the friggin' Giant's knife. Also, he's in a desert where he is the only one who sells them for miles, so of course he has the business sense to take advantage of the monopoly. People are gredy, get used to it.--RH 04:31, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Giant's Knife DOES work, in the same sense that an Xbox 360 works until it breaks down within a couple of months. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  04:34, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Days <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 12:07, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Has anyone actually played the CD-i games? They have very interesting characters, albeit a VERY crappy control scheme. Gwonam was just a classic character among them :)
 * Also, that comment above is win.Draconicus (talk) 04:41, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, yeah, if you think beating classic Zelda characters into lame stereotypes and introducing characters that make no sense is interesting.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  19:22, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, come on, Xykeb! That's what makes it so awesome :PDraconicus (talk) 20:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why are people compairing games that the characters are in? seems kind of unfair if u ask me.  Double   G   2x  16:34, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunetly we cant control the way people think (but one day I will!) <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:24, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe you should start with yourself? :P --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  01:03, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * No one can control the way people think except for Big Brother and the Pope.-- MaloMart ( talk ) Malo.png 01:18, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * And anyone who can perform a Jedi Mind Trick. Jedimasterlink (talk) 04:15, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure they aren't remote controlled. Solar flute (talk) 03:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Being controlled from a remote location counts. Then, what do you suggest controls it? Link's mind? --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  03:43, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure they're self-propelled. Jedimasterlink (talk) 03:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well, well. Now that we've reached Sunday, I guess I'd better change it. Surprising that Gwonam didn't win, though. Sincerely, Watcher.

I have no regrets. On what, I don't know.--RH 16:14, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


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Week 79: Bow-Wow vs. Deku Baba
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In the grey corner is a cannon-ball like creature bound by a leash of chain. Beyond the menacing façade of this creature is a gentle, loyal being who defends his master fiercely! A vegetarian and hater of monkeys...THIS. IS. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW-WOOOOOOOOW!

In the blue corner is a fearsome plant that eats whatever comes in its way. Once defeated, its parts may be used as helpful tools. A dangerous plant to be sure, and always out looking for fresh meat, if they are stupid enough to come within its short reach...THIS. IS. DEEEEEEEEEEKU BABAAAAAAA!!!

Though their reach may be compromised, there is still a chance that they can escape from the ring and attack you, our faithful audience! Now you know what the liability waiver you signed at the entrance to the Temple was for! Oh, and before too many people get hurt, LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET RRRRRRRRRRREADY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMBLE!
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Votes for Bow-Wow

 * 1) You know something, Bow-Wow was pretty cool. Wouldn't mind having him as my partner for the entirety of the game at all. And his reaction speed is killer. Deku Babas sure are pushovers. If this were a real fight (although I typically do not condone people judging from that) Bow-Wow would kill all Deku Babas in the worlds before they could read some kind of long book of some kind. Yippee yo, yippee yay. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  01:18, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) A brain-dead sea monkey can kill a Deku Baba.--  C  2  / C C  01:22, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) The fact that they were invulnerable in ALttP was epic, and the fact that the Bow-Wow in LA is invulnerable AND ON YOUR SIDE is even more epic. Deku Babas, on the other hand, are the epitome of non-epicness.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  01:24, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) The most Deku Babas ever did for me was give me some worthless item after killing them in one of two sword slashes. Bow-Wows gave me some funny memories...don't ask. Jedimasterlink (talk) 01:25, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Simply put: Much cooler. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 01:26, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) I like him more, and would fetch the Deku Baba after the Deku Baba was uprooted.  The Midna  ( talk )  Midna Laughing.png 03:45, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) I liked Chain Chomp ever since Mario 64, so I have to side with it.  Portal-  Kombat
 * 8) We all knew this would be one-sided. Oh well. Bow-Wow an awesome character to have with you in LA. He made me wish I could get him again after I finished Bottle Grotto. The Flying Rooster falls in the same category.-- MaloMart  ( talk ) Malo.png 08:15, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) Seriously though he's invincible. Deku Baba's die in two sword strikes. Bow Wow is the strongest possible creature in the Zelda (and Mario) Universe <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 14:51, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) He is the Zelda embodiment of a Chain Chomp, one of my favorite enemies from the whole Mario universe. How could I not vote for him? Also, his name is so cool. Bow-Wow! Ceiling Master (talk) 16:43, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) Deku Babas are just wierd. They're so easy to defeat. Plus, all they give you is ammunition for a weapon that you use for about 5 seconds. (aka the slingshot) -- Bk archer 97 20:27, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) Bow-wow....Awesomeness in a impervious metal shell and a slighty creepy  'Hi, Im going to kill you grin'.Zoma89
 * 13) I love Bow-bow and Deku Baba he's just simple. User:Chaos Omega
 * 14) Bow-wow is friendly and cool. He helps against enemies. Deku babas are annoying. --Nunovanhalen (talk) 22:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) I'm for Bow-wow because of three things: one, it's a wild iron creature of death (need I say more?). two, you can carry him around on your adventures and IT ATTACKKS FOR YOU!!!!!! This makes it easier to battle and it even eats flowers so you can advance to bottle grotto (i've played LA before). third, one of the easiest monsters in WW is the deku baba (I even took a picture from a safe distance from this dude, and that can take a while with enemies). so I say Bow-Wow will epically win! --[(User:Orangecraz|Orangecraz)] [(user talk:Orangecraz|talk)] time uncomformed, December 30, 2009
 * 16) I've played LA a million times, and Bow-wow is awesome. He eats your enemies! What's not to like? Sir Real
 * 17) i like deku baba more but bow wow has got a win coming fooster
 * 18) Bow-wow has a chain on it. Deku-Baba is rooted to the ground. I think that says a bit. - McGillivray227

Anonymous votes

 * 1) These things really sucked in A Link to the Past, but the one in Link's Awakening was totally awesome.  I wanted to keep him for the whole game cause he was an awesome ally, and pretty cute for a metal ball on a chain.
 * 2) Nature cant beat mechanisation, neither can it bite through steel.
 * 3) Bow-wows are a much bigger threat to Link's life.. I always find it hard to pass them, even though it shouldn't be.
 * 4) I always liked the chain chomps from Mario. And well, you take it from  there.
 * 5) There invunerable and a pain in the neck so I'd choose them over the deku babas because there just annoying nothing else. Also who dosent like a round ball tied to a chain? Huh exactly.
 * 6) Plant versus Big Metal Ball. I think the choice is obvious.
 * 7) whenever i played A Link to the Past, i some how managed to never make to the point in the game with these guys, but i've played almost every mario game there ever was and every time chain chomps were in a game they were AWESOME!
 * 8) Bow-wows look like chain chomps from mario. That's pretty cool.
 * 9) Bow-wow is very cool.
 * 10) Bow wow. He kills things in one hit, and was part of a game with tons of Mario tie-ins. I vote for him.
 * 11)  I didn't really like the deku babas that much at all, and bow-wows seem really cool.  The deku babas were just scavengers who would attack you when you were distracted while the bow-wows will actually get you with their skill.


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Votes for Deku Baba

 * 1) The most awesome plant in the world to begin with, the venus fly trap, has super-evolved!--RH 03:03, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) The Bow Wow is just a cheap copy of the Chain Chomps from Mario, so I will vote for the Deku Baba.--Grax638 (talk) 04:38, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) As much as I like the Mario universe, the biggest drawback of Link's Awakening for me was there being too many cameos. So I'm going to have to side with the plant that could easily be eaten by Bow-Wow. --Birdman5589 (talk) 05:15, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Decapitation is cool.Solar flute (talk) 21:53, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) The chomp may be winning, but I'm going with ambush plant. I just like Deku Baba's. Sincerely, Watcher.
 * 6) I vote for Deku Baba only because I don't know much about the Bow-Wow. Sam samurai
 * 7) The Deku Baba brings back fond memories of when I first played OoT. Oddball 464 20:32, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Plants are nice. Evil plants are cool. Evil plants with sharp teeth are awesome. User:Pkmns (talk)
 * 9) Come on, an enemy from OoT versus the links awakening. This is a real enemy not some kind of cameo. --Green Courage 18:26, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) Bow-Wow was better in Mario, and I love Ocarina of Time. Plus the Deku Baba have a ton of cousin Deku and don't forget Diababa from Twilight Princess. That by itself wins my vote. User:HeroofAwesome
 * 11) I vote Deku Baba because Deku Sticks are good weapons. User:DekuStickMaster
 * 12) I vote for deku baba cuz the bow-wow reminds me of a chain chomp from super mario and I hate super mario so much :( --Yorick141 (talk) 21:05, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) It appears all my ZP pals are against me on this one. I for one don't appreciate copied enemies, even on Zelda's standard. Heh, Nintendo messed up in some places. Well I do support the Deku Stick, and anybody like using glitches? I know I do. Well the deku stick, being the awesome weapon that it is, can be used with glitches to turn invincible and invisible. I don't know about you but that's pretty cool. -- <FONT COLOR="orange">⽩㤖㒾</FONT> <FONT COLOR="blue">-</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#FF8000">㑻</FONT>  23:17, January 1, 2010 (UTC), your man of the world.
 * 14) well oot was one of the first games i played ive played through it with and without help about 8 times and this enemy is a quick way to get deku sticks and deku nuts and also in twilight princess the red ones can run around if u hit them near the baseDevdude (talk)
 * 15) You saw the abriged series. I Got A Stick.The Shadow Monarch 125 (talk) 17:02, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) Deku Babas are classics man J-man Zelda Fan
 * 17) Wind Waker villains are so better Zebras are Mean Ray Talk 2 me 20:09, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

 * 1) ITS EATING ME!!!!!  GET IT OFF ME!!!!!!
 * 2) Glomp! oh, nom nom..
 * 3) I agree with Birdman5589's vote, although Deku Babas aren't a much better opponent.
 * 4) Okay. Just think about this for a second. The "Bow-Wow" is a big ball with teeth on a chain. All it does is chomp at you until you get away. The Deku baba is a giant, man-eating, slobbering, flower of DOOM! And, in certain variations, it can have its head cut off and still bounce around and kill you. If you've played Spirit Tracks, the Deku Baba are one of the hardest enemies in the game. So yeah I'm voting for the Deku Baba.
 * 5) Bow-Wow is a Mario copy.And I like plant enemies.
 * 6) Like everyone else said, Bow-wow looks like a Chain Chomp Ripoff. I've got about halfway through the Deku Tree in OOT, and I must've got hit about five times by these guys (I suck at OOT). Bottom Line is, Deku Babas FTW. ...Even if Bow-wow would totally own the Deku Baba in a fight... And it's going to own the Deku Baba in the votes... Oh yeah, to that guy who posted that thing about taking a photo of this guy from a safe distance, those are BOKO Babas, not DEKU Babas.
 * 7) Bow wow is just a ripoff of my favorite Mario 64 enemy. I remember Wind Waker when Babas first got the ability to actually bite into you. How I hated them
 * 8) the carnivorous plants are underrated. and not a cameo. never really liked the chain chomps
 * 9) Lets hear it for original Zelda content!
 * 10) I hate Deku Babas ,but bow-bow is a super mario character
 * 11) I like Deku Babas ,their like a deadlier version of my favorite plant. Plus their not a metal ball that only jumps around.
 * 12) I don't think i've ever fought a deku baba, but spirit tracks' fire babas  are pretty pwnful. I mean, the4 immortal whip can't even beat them!
 * 13) HE is cool Phantom Zelda


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Peanut Gallery
Jedi, why did Bom-Wow give you funny memories? :P-- C  2  / C C  01:28, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * CC, what is it about you and asking questions when people ask you not to ask? I ask you. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  01:30, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, reverse psychology, it never fails, please don't try to prove me wrong.--RH 03:07, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I just like to push people's buttons. And if reverse psychology never fails to not work in this universe what about an exact opposite parrel universe? Think about it.-- C  2  / C C  03:10, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it seems I have been bested in the art of messing with peoples' heads.--RH 15:45, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't know what a "parrel universe" is either, huh? --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  15:49, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, since we cannot be sure whether such a universe even exists, there is no proof there there are circumstances under which reverse psychology fails to achieve its desired effect. As such, RH's original conclusion is still valid. Jedimasterlink (talk) 20:32, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * I never disproved his statement, just offered up a point of conjecture saying that he might not be right. So that means he isn't wrong, just not totally right....whitch makes him wrong, unless he can prove to the entire scientific comminuty as a whole that it is totally immpossible to have such a parrel universe. -- C  2  / C C  15:37, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Conversely, one could say that your conjecture is invalid until you can definitively prove that such a parallel universe exists and that said universe functions with rules that are the opposite of ours. Additionally, even if such a universe exists, there is no guarantee that there is any form of life there, meaning that we can't be sure that there are psyches insurmountable to reverse psychology. =P Jedimasterlink (talk) 20:06, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * In essence if one parrel universe is found, then that mean's there is infinite parrel universe's and that mean's that there is a 100% chance that there is a parrel universe out there were reverse phsycology doesn't work but a 100% chance that it does work in a parrel universe. So, if this is true then he is wrong, completely, but right completely and so is every other theory/law/whatever is right but wrong.-- C  2  / C C  13:50, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. However, since that statement is conditional--it depends on us finding a parallel universe--how can we be sure that it can be verified? Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:45, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * We can be 100% certain by finding a parrel universe, interacting with it's people(if they are human's) and comparing our histories and their law's of physics.-- C  2  / C C  22:48, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * And how do you propose we find this universe and make contact with its inhabitants? Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:51, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * It has been theorized that the parrel universe(s) are connected through space and that it is physically possible to send a ship out, going fast-than-light for many year's would eventually happen cross over to another universe. Or you develope trans-dimmenstional travel.-- C  2  / C C  22:55, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * This is worse than when I started that Malo-Talo Gender confusion conspiracy--RH 03:29, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, for once, something from Twilight princess is losing! --User:Ar7washereTalk
 * Deku Babas also appear (and more so) in Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 17:55, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but aren't they harder to defeat in those 2 games? -- Bk archer 97 20:30, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * ...What? Deku Babas aren't exclusive to TP by any means whatsoever. You could say something from TP is losing if Keese, which have been in nearly every game in the series, are losing in a ToC fight, but that logic is so stretched that it hardly applies to the situation.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  21:48, December 28, 2009 (UTC) The dekue baba is weird. phantom zelda
 * I know, I'm not an idiot! But, if you look at the artwork, you can clearly tell that this is the TP version of the Deku Baba!--User:Ar7washereTalk
 * I don't mean to be condescending, but if if you look at the image URL, it says it's the OoT/MM version. Just saying. Jedimasterlink (talk) 22:49, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like the OoT/MM version too.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  23:48, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * There was a Twilight Princess image up but Auron replaced it so both pictures would be art work <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 23:52, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Is that why? I don't get why that matters, many fights have mixed artwork and 3D Models. My only guess was for a change of pace, or something. Sorry to talk about you behind your back, AK it's a nasty habit of mine.--RH 18:01, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * If they do, it's probably because one of the characters/enemies/bosses/etc. has no artwork. Artwork should always be used before in-game models if there is any.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:27, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * I prefer the ol fliping the coin method <font color="66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 13:02, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Why is "THIS" in italics and has a random ' next to it? Ceiling Master (talk) 15:56, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * They must've meant to make it bold, but forgot to add the last apostrophe. To make it bold, you surround it with three apostrophes on either side. Like this would make this. They must've forgotten or overlooked it, and instead put two apostrophes on one side, making it italicized and have an extra apostrophe- because two apostrophes like this makes this. Does it make sense? And something like that you can just change yourself, you don't have to worry about an admin doing it or not for mere grammatical or code mess-ups. -- <FONT COLOR="orange">⽩㤖㒾</FONT> <FONT COLOR="blue">-</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#FF8000">㑻</FONT>  17:03, January 2, 2010 (UTC), your man of the world.
 * There was some kind of ethereal symbolism there that apparently was lost on most people, so no point in keeping it. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  22:29, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Bow wows are exactly the same as chain chomps from mario!


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