Zeldapedia:Temple of Courage/Suggestions/Archive 100

Fused Shadow vs. Majora's Mask (mask)
It's back! First of all, I mean the complete Fused Shadow and Majora's Mask as the mask. Each is a powerful object (each causes great power to the one who wears it) passed down from a tribe (The Fused Shadow from the Dark Interlopers and Majora's Mask from the Ancient Ones). Furthermore, each is important in the game in which it appears (Fused Shadow in Twilight Princess: Midna makes Link find the pieces and uses the Fused Shadow to transform into the Arachnid creature and kill Zant)(Majora's Mask in Majora's Mask: The Skull Kid uses it to make the Moon come toward Earth and, if time runs out, crash). Also, each plays a part in the last boss fight (Midna uses the Fused Shadow to fight Ganondorf; Link fights Majora's Mask in its mask form). To dispel all further doubt, each is worn by a Majora major character (The Fused Shadow is worn by Midna; Majora's Mask is worn by Skull Kid). Yeta Yet another connection: each is used to access an area otherwise accessible (The Fused Shadow is used to enter Hyrule Castle; Majora's Mask is used enter the Moon). Come on, Xykeb! It has Majora's Mask! U CANOT OPPPOSSE!!!!!!!! T h e ™  23:44, June 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * I just can't bring myself to support it. I really don't know why. But tell you what, if nothing better comes along, I just might. --Auron  Kaizer !  23:53, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I like it, a lot, actually. -Minish  Link  23:55, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Meep. Good idea. I will think more. I kind of feel like AK Meep Meep (talk) 00:02, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha, can't exactly support either though ;)  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:08, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * The connections are good but I don't like item fights like this at all. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:23, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I can haz it -- Deku Stick   Master 
 * I just don't like it that much. - Is drak  thül  01:29, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since most other votes are neutral and not oppose, NEUTRAL!!!! I mean, yeah they are kinda similar. But I don't like the connections. --AmazingLink (talk) 02:38, June 28, 2010 (UTC)AmazingLink
 * The voices told me to support. --  Haru Mclean Namikaze  Anonymous.png Kana: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurīn
 * Is this the fight, General Redeadhunter? Yes, yes it is. Very good General, next course of action? Support it...--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 21:11, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I like it Michael Ryan  Talk  23:32, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * My take on this: Good fight, well thought out, I just don't like it. I guess it's an item fight and I don't dig it to start with so.... there.-- C  2  / C C  02:02, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Byrne vs. Nabooru
Two major characters with ponytails .......... Is that not a good comparison?? Ok, well here are the real connections =]. Both are seeking power. Nabooru wants Link to get her the Golden Gauntlets so she can become stronger while Byrne hopes reviving Malladus will gain him great power. Although they both originally are antagonistic (more Byrne since Nabooru is just useing Link), they later become great allies. Both are also used by the antagonists's main minion(s) as minions themselves. They both appear as bosses and after defeat they become great allies when the brainwashing is over. They also are revealed at this point to be part of the group of sages in the game (seven sages and lokomo sages) and seem to leave the natural world.--Ingo the great (talk) 23:50, June 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Eh, in the end, some of the connections are arguable (such as Nabooru "using" Link). Even though I really like both characters and would wanna see this fight happen, my sense of rationality says no. --Auron  Kaizer !  23:53, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh... Not feeling it. Er, also, Nabooru wants the Silver Gauntlets... Um, just thought I'd throw that in. -Minish  Link 
 * I love it, but Byrne would smash Nabs to the ground =( -Stars talk  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/pyroac/Starssprite.gif 23:56, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome idea and it would be a cool fight. i am just not in the mood for something this serious right now Meep Meep (talk) 00:04, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's alright, but not really "good" as such.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:08, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * This may break the neutral record! Bring it back another time and I may like it more. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:23, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm just not sure. The connections are pretty good though. -- Deku Stick   Master 
 * I agree with all of the above comments. - Is drak  thül  01:27, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure the claw handed dude was brainwashed... /\/\r.6r33&#124;\&#124; &#124;-&#124;@T (talk) 01:37, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's okay. T h e Midna Laughing.png ™ 02:41, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is just so meh. --  Haru Mclean Namikaze  Anonymous.png Kana: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurīn
 * ???--AmazingLink (talk) 15:10, June 28, 2010 (UTC)AmazingLink
 * Okay???????????????????????????? Michael Ryan Talk  15:18, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * If link had managed to get them back in time the both would of had Gauntlets as well. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 17:20, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Kinda the same with the Majora's Mask vs. Fused Shadow, for me. Except this one has weaker connections, and is more contrieved. On top of the fact I don't like it much.-- C  2  / C C  02:04, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Jovani vs. Pamela's Father
Resuggestion of the resuggestion of the resuggestion of the resuggestion of suggestion suggested suggestively. Both are men that have been cursed by undead enemies and are enstranged from civilization. They both have loved ones that they need to be with but can't because of said curses. They both show fondness for Link's alternate forms and both provide the means with Link can travel through underground tunnels that are secret entrances to castles.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  00:08, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * i think that i supported this before Meep Meep (talk) 00:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * You picked the right week this time! ...Assuming you're not so unlucky that an even better one comes around, in which case you'll be seeing red. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  00:10, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't not just can't not support this not never! <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™ 00:18, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 00:23, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anti-oppose! -- Deku Stick   Master 
 * Not the opposite of failing to oppose! - Is drak  thül  01:24, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good connections and not that it matters but good wording in the suggestion . This should really go through it's been suggested so many times, and I'd hate to be the one to oppose. ;) -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish  <font color="#003366">Link  02:44, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Very very vonderful! --  Haru Mclean Namikaze  Anonymous.png Kana: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurīn
 * Do to the curse similarities, a family member, though Jovani just has a cat, and the... well its good. --AmazingLink (talk) 15:07, June 28, 2010 (UTC)AmazingLink
 * I was actually referring to Jovani's girlfried...he's with his cat because of the curse.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  20:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * A winner is you!--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 21:13, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unorginal, and in any other week I would probably not support, but better than all the other fights easily, and I want to see this fight.-- C  2  / C C  02:07, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ze thumb goes up <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 17:04, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Orca vs. Swiftblade
They are both teachers of the art of Swordsplay and are much needed in the main quest in their own way. /\/\r.6r33&#124;\&#124; &#124;-&#124;@T (talk) 01:06, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not feeling it... -- Deku Stick   Master 
 * The connections are true of many characters... - Is drak  thül  01:22, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. I just chose this one. /\/\r.6r33&#124;\&#124; &#124;-&#124;@T (talk) 01:24, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * : Because it was you that suggested it.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  02:16, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, but in all seriousness, this fight is not bad as such, but it lacks certain key qualities I look for in a fight. Connections unique to the characters involved, for example.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  02:16, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it was you that suggested it. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  02:21, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you have anything else better to do than piss me off? /\/\r.6r33&#124;\&#124; &#124;-&#124;@T (talk) 14:54, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course I do. But I have the mental capacity to do more than one thing at the same time. --

<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron ''' Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">! ''' 20:35, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * That makes alot of us /\/\r.6r33&#124;\&#124; &#124;-&#124;@T (talk) 23:57, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm oscillating between supporting and opposing, but mostly opposing. For now, I'll leave it as neutral. <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™ 02:41, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Going with the "sword training" connection, You could pretty much take two names out of a hat and call it a day.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 02:39, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I suppose this is an underwhelming week, but if the above fight is unorginal, this one is obliviously obvious.-- C  2  / C C  02:08, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Orca vs. Hero's Shade
So it has a character from another fight. These two are helpful swordsmen who teach Link sword moves. Both teach the great spin attack! They are very helpful to Link, and are elder, more experienced swordsman.--AmazingLink (talk) 02:29, June 28, 2010 (UTC)AmazingLink
 * I'm neutral about this one... -- Deku Stick   Master  02:50, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Orca teaches the Hurricane Spin, not Great Spin. See my vote in the above fight. - Is drak  thül  02:33, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * AMAZING ly uncreative. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  02:35, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't like it when users copy another user's fight and change it slightly. That's just my opinion on the matter. Even without that, it would probably be an oppose. <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™ 02:41, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not really a fan of mentor fights, and this one isn't a good one anyways.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  05:55, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is just... not good. --  Haru Mclean Namikaze  Anonymous.png Kana: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurīn
 * If the above fight is obliviously obvious, this one is practicly stated.-- C  2  / C C  02:12, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Impa (Oracle of Ages & Seasons) vs. Orca
Since Orca is the thing this year, I'm jumping on the overtired bandwagon and hopefully, it'll swamp up a spot that could be used for a suggestion that doesn't suck: A guy named Orca versus a woman who is an orca. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  02:38, June 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think so! --AmazingLink (talk) 02:40, June 28, 2010 (UTC)AmazingLink
 * ??? <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™ 02:41, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * : Wow! This is almost as good as my eyebrow fight! - Is drak  thül  02:44, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * ... - Is drak  thül  02:44, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * YES! -- Deku Stick   Master  02:45, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * ORCA LADY GET -<font color ="#68E0D0">Stars <font color ="#187868">talk  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/pyroac/Starssprite.gif 03:32, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Shame neither of them wear leather pants.
 * Me and Griffen we will have our revenge, him and me, we'll steal your leather pants! -<font color ="#68E0D0">Stars <font color ="#187868">talk  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/pyroac/Starssprite.gif 04:01, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * : There's no article called Impa (Oracle of Ages & Seasons).  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  05:55, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Epic connection but lame fight.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  05:55, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * pretty mutch already said Michael Ryan  Talk  15:11, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * nice to see some fans of YGOTAS around here. and meh.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 22:05, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Better check your Biology book again, because Impa is obviously a blue whale.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 02:49, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hilarious connection, but no. Also, an Orca(also called Killer Whale) is actually the largest oceanic dolphin. The name Killer Whale is a misnomer, so I'm not suprised it is easily confused.-- C  2  / C C  02:15, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Orca vs. Oshus
They are both old men who live on islands. They meet the same Link, give him a sword, and teach him how to use the sword. They also live with another person living thing (Do fairies count as people?). -- Deku Stick   Master  02:50, June 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Leave it to the PogostickApprentice to make the only good Orca fight. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  02:52, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh. - Is drak  thül  02:57, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * O_O FOUR Orca fights this week? ....Well, this one in particular is probably the best of them. Not really good as such though. Oh yeah, and this is a total thecnicality that didn't really influence my vote, but Oshus never gave Link the sword...Link stole it and he went along with it.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  05:55, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I support this for the connections. But Oshus is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Orca, just so you know. --  Haru Mclean Namikaze  Anonymous.png Kana: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurīn
 * I don't really think any Orca fight is "the one"--AmazingLink (talk) 15:08, June 28, 2010 (UTC)AmazingLink
 * What is it with Orca fights? Oh well, this is the only good one Michael Ryan  Talk  15:13, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * See above. This one definitely has potential; maybe, you should re-suggest it another week. I like it more than the rest of the Orca Four, but I give the first one the greatest chance of supporting. <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™ 20:41, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * As TM said, needs better connections. Best of the "Orca Four", but sadly none of them are support worthy or even neutral worthy in my book.-- C  2  / C C  02:17, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Zant's Hand vs. Zant Mask
Well, both random floating parts of Zant's body, both required to get by, and both of them are only found in the Twilight palace. Michael Ryan Talk  15:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * just not felling it. and I'm not voting on any other fights because I really don't have an opinion that would matter on any of them.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 15:14, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but Zants hand might not be powered by Zant and.... --AmazingLink (talk) 15:14, June 28, 2010 (UTC)AmazingLink
 * Eh... --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  15:23, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not very good. - Is drak  thül  15:35, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't like it -- Deku Stick   Master  20:04, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Waay too obvious. The connections are obviously supposed to be there.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  20:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * They are "meant to be." <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™ 20:29, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ --  Haru Mclean Namikaze  Anonymous.png Kana: ナミカゼ ハ ル マクリーン, Romaji: Namikaze Haru Makurīn
 * If the Hero's Shade and Orca fight are practically stated, this one is in-your-face-stated, all but confirmed by Nintendo.-- C  2  / C C  02:20, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
What amazing symmetry with each and every fight! The one that I suggested is perfectly symmetrical from the middle(right now); the next is pure neutrals; the one after is pure support; and the last one is grey, red, grey, red, grey, red. <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e ™  02:26, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * What immortal hand or eye can frame your fearful symmetry? --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  02:29, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

All Orca fights have opposes. Yes, one is mine, but I didn't like that fight! --AmazingLink (talk) 02:41, June 28, 2010 (UTC)AmazingLink
 * No, mine has yet to see an oppose. Someone will probably oppose it though... -- Deku Stick   Master  20:04, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * At the time that that comment was written you had not yet added your suggestion, so all the Orca fights present at the time had at least one oppose. I mean, disregarding the fact that TM did indeed oppose your fight in the time between when you made that comment and I made this one.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  20:27, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

What the HECK!!!!!!!!! I was going to do Swiftblade the first vs. Hero's shade, and I come here and there are like FOUR FREAKING FIGHTS THAT ARE EXACTLY LIKE THAT!!! I thought it was such an original idea too, I was sure it would get some supports, and I come here and it's like everyone else had the exact same idea I did!!!!! I'm just going to post it anyway.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 15:03, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Why did my fight get deleted? is there sometihng wrong with it or what?--Hylianhero777 (talk) 16:14, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Read the rules. The limit is eight suggestions per week. Better luck next time. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  17:39, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, Hylianhero777, I've suggested that fight before and haven't had much luck with it. In fact, it crashed and burned. A little word of warning in case you decided to suggest it next week.--RedeadhunterRedead.pngContributions Edits 21:30, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll keep that in mind, RDH, but if i'm not mistaken, my fight was suggested before the Zant fight (or at least, when I started editing that fight was not there.) I might be wrong, but i'd like to give my fihgt a chance.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 22:03, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wrong. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  22:12, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hylianhero777's fight was suggested two minutes after that fight; this means that he or she spent started writing his or her fight before the other was suggested, spent over two minutes making it, and didn't see the other fight. <font color="#663300">T <font color="#996600">h <font color="#CC6600">e Midna Laughing.png ™ 02:59, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really matter, and even if it did you have to take into account that if we are assuming that Hylianhero took over two minutes to write out his/her suggestion, we must also assume that Bioshock took over two minutes to write out his suggestion. Even if Hylianhero started suggestion before Bioshock was finished suggesting (i.e. clicked on the "Save page" button), it's probably safe to assume that Bioshock started suggesting before Hylianhero started suggesting.  Xykeb   Yvolix   Zraliv  08:22, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh sorry, didn't want to cause a fuss. guess I must have not seen the fight, or something. Thanks for telling me though.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 11:27, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm.... bad week or what?-- C  2  / C C  02:24, July 1, 2010 (UTC)