Forum:Zeldapedia YouTube Page/Archive

= Discussion =

I was wonder what people would think about having an official Zeldapedia Youtube page. On it videos of trailers that Nintendo has could be added. This way when these videos are embedded on the pages they wouldn't contain watermarks or openings from whatever press site they were taken from. I could upload the video files directly from Nintendo's press site, which would ensure they are the official versions in their original resolution. Anybody have any thoughts about this? --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:54, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well I've started it up for now. I have only replaced the trailer on the Skyward Sword page. --Birdman5589 (talk) 04:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what could be done about all the boss videos. I'm open for any suggestions though. Should the admins also have access to the youtube page? --Birdman5589 (talk) 18:49, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think so. That way the admins could add or edit videos for when you are not around. Say if you don't mind when you have a chance could you go and replace the trailers for some of the older games as well such as Twilight Princess or Spirit Tracks? Oh and BTW I was wondering if we should add a message at the beginning or end of each video saying something like "brought to you by Zeldapedia, The Legend of Zelda wiki" and include a link to our site. That way we could possibly attract new users. Again its just a suggestion and one that I'm really not sure about myself.--ShutUpNavi (talk) 21:45, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

If somebody could make the intro I could start adding that in. Should we have it be the intro or at the end? Also how should I get the password to the admins? --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:33, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'm actually great with Youtube and know how to work pretty much everything on the site, if anyone wants my help. I visited the account and noticed you just have a playlist option and no separate thing for videos. That is really inconvienient, so you might want to change it.Hylianhero777 (talk) 15:08, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'll change the page so it also had individual videos instead of just playlists. That would be great if Mr Kmil and others would be willing to battle videos. Mr Kmil, do you want me to give you the login info so you can upload and manage videos? --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:07, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Aggreed.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 11:58, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up. I completely forgot about that little fact. I'll go and take care of that now. Birdman5589 (talk) 03:37, June 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Here is what I went with, "The Legend of Zelda themes, characters, and games are the property of Nintendo. Zeldapedia does not claim ownership of The Legend of Zelda series." Birdman5589 (talk) 04:14, June 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. I noticed it and got it fixed pry while you were telling me to fix it. I think I got them all fixed now. Thanks though. Birdman5589 (talk) 04:20, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I like the idea, but only if we won't drop the project two weeks afterwards or something.Mido did what?! (talk) 21:24, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well considering the channel has been live and adding more content for almost 8 months now, I don't think that is something we need to worry about. At currently 268 videos, I would say it has been growing quite nicely without a hint of being dropped. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:08, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Page Management
Assuming we can get more videos for this page (boss battles mainly), how should it be managed? As of now I have the commenting, rating, and video responses disabled for all the videos I have uploaded. I also have comments disabled on the actual page. I figured this would be best to prevent trolling. I also haven't been accepting friend requests or setting up any subscriptions on the account to keep it "clean". Also should we try to get a few more people that have access to the page? Maybe find a couple people that are reliable and already have Youtube accounts that would be willing to help out. (Oni for could be such a user for example). Also how should we get videos that people make but don't have access to the account uploaded? Should we have people use a service like YouSendIt and have it sent to a special e-mail? I did set up an e-mail account that is only tied to the Youtube account that could be used for this. --Birdman5589 (talk) 05:57, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I cant get higher quality images :( Oni Dark Link 11:09, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed I said that by mistake afterward and was editing my comment to include more but then you said that which would of edit blocked me. Anyway I want to say that I too think people should be allowed comment on the videos and channel trolling isnt that big a problem. Also Ive already sent a friend request to the channel Oni Dark Link 11:20, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I dont have access to any capturing or editing software. That's the reasons why all my videos are badly done with a video camera. I could buy software but I live in a rural area and would probably have to go to the capital before I could find a shop that would sell what we need. Oni Dark Link 11:31, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ill look into it. As long as it doesn't cost a bundle I'm on. It has been something I'd like to do for a while. Oni Dark Link 11:39, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I have an account and would be glad to help, however like oni I can't do much with pics or vids.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 19:02, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I have changed the commenting settings and have added both Oni and Hylianhero777 as friends. If anybody else wants to be added as a friend send a message with the friend request so I know who it is. I have also sent Oni the login information in a message in his Youtube account. Who else should I add to help out and how many people should we try to get on the account? Also does anybody have any ideas for a different channel background and icon? --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:15, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Here is the new look. What do people think? --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:53, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * This seems to be working fine for now. Maybe we should add it to Zeldapedia's news or would it be a bit early for that? Oni Dark Link 10:48, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

A Link to the Past
I think I'm going to try to get some videos from A Link to the Past. I have done the opening to see how the quality is. Any feedback on the quality would be greatly appreciated. The video is on the The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past/Prologue page.

Looks good.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 15:53, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks terrific, but can you try to get one without the title screen? The title screen really isn't part of the Prolgue, which is why I am asking.- McGillivray  227  21:09, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll get the title screen cut off and then re-upload sometime tonight. If nobody complains about the quality, then I will start doing a play through of A Link to the Past to get boss videos. My computer can only handle up to SNES and GBA games while recording video, so footage from newer games is out of the question for me as of now. So if this trial with A Link to the Past works, I'll start doing the games I can one at a time. --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:45, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * So is there anybody who has the capabilities to record say OoT, MM, TWW, and TP videos? I may sound I bit crazy in saying this, but I think all videos that we have on this site, should be from our youtube page. It's just something novel, having cut-scenes, and boss videos, and whatnot, be our own.-- C  2  / C C  01:49, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's hard to come by working GameCube files that work and my emulators are actually my recording software, so those are may take a lot longer to get. If I can get a controller that works with my computer, I'd be more than happy to work on the Nintendo 64 titles. Like the new version of the Prologue, by the way, Birdman. - McGillivray  227  03:45, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you have an N64 controller you could get something like this if you are willing to pay a little. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:58, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

I believe I am done with all the videos we need from A Link to the Past. I have all the boss videos (including the ones you fight again in Ganon's Tower), the opening, the ending (without the credits), and even a bonus of Chris Houlihan's Room. Can anybody think of anything more or is it safe to say that A Link to the Past is complete? --Birdman5589 (talk) 05:14, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Minish Cap
Errr, hey everyone, Minish here. Um, if it's alright, I was planning on covering The Minish Cap for the YT channel- I'm a n00b though, um, at YouTube, so I don't know if multiple people can upload to the same channel, though- I use a quality that has a large filesize so I can't email stuff... Err, here's an example of my recording. You can check it out here. Anyway, what are you guys' thoughts on this, can I cover TMC, and if so, can multiple users upload to the channel or whatever? Thanks :P -Minish  <font color="#003366">Link  19:07, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

How large is the file size and what type of file is it? Also how are you recording the video? (screen recorder, built in recorder in the emulator, ect.) --Birdman5589 (talk) 20:51, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Filesizes have been under a gig so far, and I'm using the built-in recorder emulator. -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish  <font color="#003366">Link  21:36, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Not all of us have a youtube account i do but others dont  -- "I Bust The Windows Out Your Car"  23:26, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

YARR, I'll get to work on this in a while -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish  <font color="#003366">Link  20:11, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Update
As of now I'm still working on A Link to the Past, Mr. Kmil is doing the original for the NES and will then is planning on working through the handheld games, Minish Link is going to do The Minish Cap, and McGillivray227 will possibly be starting on the Oracle games. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:42, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * EDIT McGillivray227 is currently working on Oracle of Seasons --Birdman5589 (talk) 05:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Quick question on videos.
Right now I'm almost done with A Link to the Past (was set back by having to do a clean install on my computer). I was wondering though, should I record the second times of fighting Armos Knights, Lanmolas, and Moldorm in Gannon's tower? If I do should I include them in the A Link to the Past playlist or should I just have the main boss battles in the playlist? Thanks for any feedback. --Birdman5589 (talk) 14:13, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think I can make a decision like that, but maybe, just a suggestion, they could be under Ganon's Tower (A Link to the Past). AmazingLink ( talk )

It'd be nice to have a video of the Dark Links only your using the SNES version arent you? <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 07:08, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I did use the SNES version but I could get the GBA version and either play through or try to find a save online right before it. --Birdman5589 (talk) 13:51, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

If you can get videos for all the Palace of Four Swords bosses and info for the palace of Four Swords in general it'd be great. I'm still confused as to how you get to it and whether you need the whirlwind sword attack to get in or can only get it after beating the Palace of Four Swords. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 13:58, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

You get ten Courage things in Four Swords on that same profile. If we could, at the moment, LLEEOO provided all POTFS bosses on VIE 2!! AmazingLink  ( talk )

I have an emulator and the ROM but I can't seem to find any save files to import that work, so I'm going to have to do another whole play through to get to the PotFS. I'll get to it eventually but don't know how quick I'll be. If anybody could find a save (.sav) file that works I would appreciate if you could post the link for it. --Birdman5589 (talk) 18:57, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: I'm not sure I can get the Palace of the Four Swords videos done at all. You have to have done certain things in the Four Swords part and I can't do that on an emulator. While I have found some saves that has the Four Swords stuff done for you so you can enter the dungeon, I haven't been able to get them to work with my ROM or emulator. Here is the link to the save that should work. If anybody wants to check it out and can get it working I would greatly appreciate it. --Birdman5589 (talk) 04:43, July 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I found a way to access the PotFS and will start doing it now. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:28, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Link's Awakening
Well I've now done with A Link to the Past so I figured I would get started on Link's Awakening this weekend. I'm planning on doing the DX version so there would be color in the videos but didn't know if there would be a need for the original version. If anybody has any thoughts on anything about doing Link's Awakening let me know below. Otherwise I will pry do it the same way I did the A Link to the Past videos. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:20, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I also have a question about what settings to use for the video. I have a sample video up here . The brighter and more colorful look is using the "real colors" setting while the duller look happens when using the "Gameboy colors" setting. I think the real colors looks better but the Gameboy colors is pry the more accurate emulation. Once again any thoughts are greatly appreciated. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:54, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm the bright colours do look a lot nicer but it is the intent to get as close to the original as possible. I'd say go with the bright colours because it looks like higher quality but maybe you should wait to see what others might think. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 07:21, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Gameboy Colors. Must be authentic and as close to the original as possible.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 13:12, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

The Legend of Zelda (original)

 * Mr. Kmil has already started working on the original but thanks for the offer. --Birdman5589 (talk) 04:21, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Zelda II
Since I'm the only one who can play the Adventure of Link with out thinking of suicide I'd be willing to get the videos for that. I have a rom of it i dont however know any NES emulates that can record videos of game play. If someone can link me to one I'll be able to start in a couple of days time. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 10:22, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * FCEUX can record AVI files. Under the file menu there is a AVI/Wav section and when your record the AVI file there are different compression options available. --Birdman5589 (talk) 19:09, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ocarina of Time
Is anyone doing Ocarina of Time? Because, if not, I could. I just need to know what videos I need to get. --<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 21:38, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * As of now nobody is doing it. You would need to get an entire play through with recording any type of in game Prologue, ending, all Mini-bosses, and all bosses. When recording the mini-bosses and bosses you need to make sure to include all aspects of the battle. So you will need to take damage in the various ways Link can get hurt, let the battle last long enough so the bosses different moves/stages can be fully seen, include going into the door right before the battle, and include all the way through what is received from winning the battle. You can look at some of the videos that are up for a reference . If at all possible you could try to record the AVI file using Microsoft 1 compression (at 100% on the quality), that way I can convert the file into an easier file to upload to youtube. When you get a video complete upload it to http://www.filedropper.com/ and then send a message to the youtube account with the download link. Please indicate what video the link is for also. Also when recording videos make sure to only use the strategy used on the corresponding Zeldapedia page. If you are up to the task just let me know. --Birdman5589 (talk) 21:56, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've got a few questions. 1. By "Prolouge," do you mean the Navi cutscene at the start of the game, the title screen, or both? 2. Do I record Link pulling out the Master Sword? 3. Do I record the Lizalfos battle in the Dodongo Cavern both times, or just once? 4. Do I record Link putting the Master Sword back? 5. Do I record the Iron Knuckle battle in the Spirit temple both times (Child and Adult), or just once (and if so, which one?) --<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 [[Image:Arwing.png|link=User:TheUltimateHokage88/Cameo|30px|]]21:38, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now that I think about it OoT really doesn't have an in game Prologue so don't worry about that. As for the Master Sword questions I'm not really sure. Maybe we should try to get feedback from others about that. With the Lizalfos you could record both times and I could edit them together similar to the Master Stalfos video. In the Spirit Temple only do the Nabooru Iron Knuckle battle as I think it is the only one that is considered a mini-boss. One thing I just thought of is when to do the Shadow and Spirit temples as I have been putting the videos up in chronological order. I'm a Spirit temple first guy but I know most people do the Shadow temple first. I didn't know if people would be go up in arms if the Spirit temple was done first? I guess it really doesn't matter what order to me besides my stubbornness wanting it the one way. --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:47, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've put up a list of videos that I plan to make on my userpage here and I would like to know if I missed any or added any that we don't need. --<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 [[Image:Arwing.png|link=User:TheUltimateHokage88/Cameo|30px|]]21:38, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * The List looks good to me, so unless anybody else sees something that needs added, I would say go with it. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:20, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I also need a screen recorder. I thought that I had one, but I don't. So... An emulator that records video would be great too. --<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 [[Image:Arwing.png|link=User:TheUltimateHokage88/Cameo|30px|]]21:38, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe that Mupen64 supports recording but haven't tested. I'll do some testing and looking around and then let you know what I can find. --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:09, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am playing Ocarina of time. I am at the begining, yet have no Recording Equpment. A  m  a  z  i  n  g  L  i  n  k

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 * Well now I do have recording equipment, so I think I'll just go ahead and do Ocarina of Time. (BTW, Mupen64 can record video.) --<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 [[Image:Arwing.png|link=User:TheUltimateHokage88/Cameo|30px|]]21:38, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity, how are you going to be recording the videos? --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:40, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Either through Mupen64 or ZDSoft. Whichever I get to work first.--<font color=#E0115F>The <font color=#082567>Ultimate <font color=#50C878>Hokage <font color=#50C878>88 [[Image:Arwing.png|link=User:TheUltimateHokage88/Cameo|30px|]]02:57, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Jäzzi has agreed to do the Ocarina of Time videos. Before I give her the green light to work on these I would like people to give some feedback on some test videos she did. The first one and the second one. I know the issue arose with people noticing frame drops when I had my first volunteer working on OoT. I just want feed back on the quality before she goes ahead with the videos as I would hate to have to later redo them again due to quality issues. Thanks for any feedback --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:55, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * If nobody has anything say about this in the next week I'm going to give her the go ahead to start working on the videos. Should we re-upload every video or just upload the ones that haven't been done yet? --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:34, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * They're not great. The frame rate makes them borderline unwatchable. But if the ones made by UltimateHokage were considered good enough, I don't see why these shouldn't... from a logical standpoint, I mean.--<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  00:38, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

I also agree with framerate issues.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 13:07, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I did some test videos on my computer and realized how much of a frame rate drop she was getting. I can get a recording of 30 frames per second but am having issues with the sound so at the moment I'm also unable to work on them. I guess for now I'll just put them on hold until we can get some quality videos. --Birdman5589 (talk) 15:06, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yet another test video. My video converter has been updated and now includes a screen capture feature. I decided to test the quality it would give when trying to get videos from OoT. Here is the link to the latest test video. The game was running at full speed (besides a few hiccups due to multitasking) and there didn't seem to be any sound issues. My recording area wasn't quite 640x480 but that is just a minor thing to adjust before actually recording for upload. I also converted to file to a smaller file size than I normally do before an upload just so it wouldn't take so long as it is mainly a test for frame drops. OoT and MM aren't a top priority for me right now in this project but I would like to see if this is a good option if nobody comes forward with better means of doing the N64 games. If there is problems with the quality (frame drops, sound, etc.), I could eventually obtain the hardware to use my capture device to do these two games. --Birdman5589 (talk) 19:50, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I would say wait until we get someone with a captue card. Nothing else seems to do OOT justice. also, WTH!!!!! Those boxes that are normally on the top of the edit screen (like ones that easily let oyu auto sign and such) were removed!--Hylianhero777 (talk) 20:38, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Temple Order
This may have been discussed early on in this project but I'm going to bring it up now since I'm currently doing recordings. What order do we want the temples completed since Water can be done before Fire and Spirit before shadow? If nobody has major objections I will do them in the order that I normal use. This order would be Forest, Fire, Water, Spirit, and Shadow. --Birdman5589 (talk) 14:44, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd personally like to see Shadow then Spirit. But that's just my OCD and dislike of change coming out. -- Jäzzi (Talk)
 * I actually wasn't aware Spirit could be done before Shadow without glitches or hacking. In the end, though, I really don't mind; if you think Spirit -> Shadow works then I'm cool with that. -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish  <font color="#003366">Link   15:14, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Personally I'd rather see Shadow-Spirit because I think there's overwhelming evidence in favor of the order (including the 3DS boss battle order that's a new one to add to the pile) but I won't raise and objections if that's really the way you want to go with it <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 14:21, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well I decided to go ahead and do Fire before Water as is customary, but I do have a save (for now) that would let me go back and change that. The Spirit-Shadow order is still up in the air but since there has yet to be any strong opinions either way then I might just do whatever I feel like when I get to it. --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:02, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think your safe with the fire before water thing. I've always thought that Spirit should go last (even though that's not how I ended up playing it the first time through). A because I think the evidence sort of points more in that direction, and B because it's just more epic of a finally what with both adult/child parts, a Mini-boss who's an actual character, and a boss that is a significant character(s)/raised Ganondorf/actually talks. Like with what everyone else is saying that's just my own opinion though. Thanks for doing these by the way, I really wish I could help but I don't have any good capture abilities.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 00:30, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

The evidence has always supported Shadow Temple last. The only counter-evidence is due to failures on Nintendo's part. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  12:30, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Does anyone know of a well made pool of all this evidence listed somewhere? There seem to be conflicting opinions. It's probably that different people do know all the same evidence and are just interpreting it differently, but now I'm curious more curious.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 19:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * This seems to be the largest compilation of evidence on the site form what I've encountered. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 19:50, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'd prefer that you did it in the more accepted way (Shadow Temple then Spirit Temple), but if the playlist is in this order or you could mimic it being earlier on (such as not using the Mirror Shield in Bongo-Bongo's battle), then I'm all for you doing it your way. - McGillivray  227  00:28, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I took everybody's discussion into account but in the end I have go ahead and did the Spirit Temple first. I did it this way because I had already went around and got every heart piece and item. After doing that I already knew the Requiem of Spirit and had yet to learn the Nocturne of Shadow. Because of that I decided to just get the Spirit Temple done. This way the videos will be in the same order as the medallions and songs. --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:09, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Spirit Temple
When I do get around to recording videos from the Spirit Temple, what should I all record? Should I do both the Iron Knuckle battles as well as the Nabooru battle? If I do the two Iron Knuckle battles should I include the cut scene of Nabooru getting captured inbetween? Or should I just do the cut scene and the Nabooru battle? --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:50, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Since both Iron Knuckle battles are played differently due to being a child and adult I think both should be included in separate videos. I think the Nabooru battle should also be a third separate video too since we have a page for it. The cut-scene should be included before and after the battle. Thats what I think anyway. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark  <font color="#007A00">Link 23:59, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * So do the two Iron Knuckle battles at once video, do the cut scene that starts and end with a sandstorm effect of Nabooru getting captured as another, and then finally doing the Nabooru battle as a third video? That would be would would work best in my opinion at least. --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:19, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * As Oni said, the Iron Knuckle battles will have slight differences considering that one features Link as a child and the other as an adult, however, I'd prefer if you could edit them into one video (in a similar manner to the edit done for the Color Dungeon boss and item). So that would make both Iron Knuckle battles one video with the Nabooru battle being a separate one. The cutscene should work as a separate video as well. - McGillivray  227  00:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Twilight Princess
If you want, I could try to do walkthrough/boss videos for Twilight Princess. --<font color="#00FF66">Jazzi <font color="#6600FF">Jäzzi  20:35, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be great if you could do that. The only thing is it should pry be the Gamecube version since that one is considered by most people to be cannon. Just look at what I put in the OoT section to know how stuff needs to be done --Birdman5589 (talk) 20:41, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I apologize. I can't do it. The roms won't work, and I'm really not techy with that stuff. So unless I was able to record it directly from the TV, I can't. --<font color="#00FF66">Jazzi <font color="#6600FF">Jäzzi Japas Artwork.png 00:01, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. If your computer had a capture card, there would be no problem using a real system over an emulator. I don't think we want to have any recordings of a TV screen though. I completely understand and appreciate the attempt to help. --Birdman5589 (talk) 05:17, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * So should I try through the TV or just don't do it? --<font color="#00FF66">Jazzi <font color="#6600FF">Jäzzi Japas Artwork.png 18:32, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you had a Capture Card, instead of just a camera, then I would say try it, but if you are planning on using a camera, then no. Poor quality, background noises, and all that kind of annoying stuff... - McGillivray  227  18:34, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh, don't know what a capture card is, so I probably don't have one. EDIT: Is there any other way I could help out besides getting videos? --<font color="#00FF66">Jazzi <font color="#6600FF">Jäzzi Japas Artwork.png 18:35, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to take a break for a while now that I have the Wind Waker done and pry will not get around to the Twilight Princess videos until after Skyward Sword has been done. However, I wanted to just make sure what version of the game I should use. I currently only on the Wii version but I assume that I should use the GameCube version when making the videos. If that is indeed the case, then I will need to obtain it beforehand. I just wanted to make sure I was on the same page as the community before I started anything. --Birdman5589 (talk) 15:26, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've decided to start working on the Twilight Princess videos here in the next week or so. Before I started I just check with the community on what version to do. If I do the GameCube version, thing will not be flipped and it will be the "official" version of the game. However, if I do the Wii version, the videos can take advantage of being displayed in a 16x9 format as the GameCube version only does 4x3. --Birdman5589 (talk) 19:41, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'd lean more towards the more offical version then the higher quality version <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 19:57, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm... Well, the higher quality would be best, seeing how everything is better with quality. But it's not the official version. So... it seems better to go for the official, even if it means losing quality. --<font color="#00BFF3">ϐαςς <font color="#35077D">ᴶαϟϟι Japas Artwork.png 20:04, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I also think going Cube would be better. Not only is it more official, but on the Wii there is this really annoying fairy cursor that's all over the screen and does not lend itself well to videos. And the Wii's HUD is much more invasive compared to the smaller GCN one. Plus you can mess with the camera angle on the Cube (you might not necessarily do that though). And it often looks fidgety and awkward when you aim on the Wii. My guess is you'd rather play the GCN version anyway, but idk. I'm guessing that the 16x9 format comes from the disk (if it came from the system you could put the GCN disk in the Wii)?--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 22:47, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not even a discussion. No reason, AT ALL, to use the Wii version. Not only does TPWii suck and all whatnot, but it'd conflict with our method of using the GameCube as the canonical version in articles. Why even bother asking the question, honestly? ...Err, I mean, obviously I know why, but still. It doesn't get much more obivious. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  22:54, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * That is the exact type of answer I was looking for (and expected). Every once I a while I need to ask an obvious question to ensure that I haven't lost my sanity. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:43, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well I was going to get started on this, but I discovered that my GameCube version disk is messed up and encounters an error. As soon as I'm able to replace my disk I'll get started on this though. --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:36, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I have obtained a new GameCube copy and have stared on these videos. --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:22, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

I want some feedback on how to break up the Zant video. I was thinking about breaking it up and have the video for the battle start at the same point that the video currently on the page does. I will still upload the cutsceen that happens before that as a different video. At the same time I wanted to see if people thought it would be better to keep it all together as one big video. Thanks in advance for the feedback. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:15, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see the video currently on the page for some reason. Anyway I think we should have it all in one video. The cut scene before hand does set the mood for the battle and I think it would seem strange having the video start straight away. There's also a pretty long cut scene before the Ganondorf fight in The Wind Waker that is included in the boss battle (making the video over 13 minutes total) so it wouldn't be too strange, we have other very long videos too (such as the 18 minute one also in The Wind Waker). Youtube has been kind enough to scarp the 15 minute limit so lets use it. Then again how long would the entire video be? I'm guessing it'd be around twenty minutes would that be right? <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 16:27, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

The video is a little under 16 minutes. I'm going to keep it as one full video. Also just to make sure I'm not crazy, I believe that the final battle should be broken up into the four different stages (Possessed Zelda, Ganon, Horseback, Ganondorf). Since each section has it's own page I think each section should be a separate video. If my logic is too crazy then feel free to correct me. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah definite split up with the last battle. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 23:08, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Four Swords
I'm looking for people to help me out with videos for the GBA Four Swords. It requires linked GBAs to play but this can be accomplished over the internet using VBA Link (unofficial version of VisualBoy Advance). I would like to be able to have all four of the Link's being played by somebody. Just looking for volunteers right now and then we can try to work out times when it can be worked on. Any takers, just leave something below. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:51, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ive been meaning to play Four Swords for a very long time. If it can be done I'm up for it. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 11:19, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I told you on the IRC that I'm up for it. One question though, do you beat this yet because if we don't have someone, then we'll need to use something, so we can figure out puzzles and such.
 * EDIT: Can you leave the link for the VBA Link? I can't find it anywhere... - McGillivray  227  15:36, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.vbalink.info/download-gba-emulator.htm I'm using version 1.8 (LAN/WiFi). They should all be the same version to work better I would think. I also think the roms need to be the same too but I'm not sure. The rom I got was at . --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:11, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ive downloaded both of them we can try a test link now <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 17:44, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you are still on we can try a test link. --Birdman5589 (talk) 18:29, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I'm still here, how do we do it? <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 18:31, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Go into the IRC so we can talk easier. --Birdman5589 (talk) 18:32, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Actualy I have to go now we'll try it again later <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 18:34, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. --Birdman5589 (talk) 18:35, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I tried a test link earlier with McGillivray227 but it didn't work. I think I have everything set up now so it can though. So we will have to try another test link to see if we can get it to work. --Birdman5589 (talk) 21:04, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

It might be a few weeks until I will be able to do it now. But if you two find two other people to do it, be my guest. I was thinking this and McGillivray227 also mentioned it to me, but on the videos I would like to try to see how it would look by doing all four Links in the videos. I was thinking about trying the main Link (green) at full size and have then have all four to the left and right, or try just having one Link in each corner. So if everybody how does this could record video that would be great. --Birdman5589 (talk) 18:41, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of one each in corner because a few of the bosses involve the cooperation of each Link, so the Green Link would sometimes be inactive while, say, the Red Link has to do his part. - McGillivray  227  18:52, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

UPDATE: I finally got it to work on a local network!!! I'm not going to be around often for at least a week still (only able to get on due to weather related reasons at the moment) but if I'm on I'll be in the IRC if anybody wants to see if going over the internet will work now. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:52, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks
In the very little free time I have had lately, I was trying to find a way deal with the videos from an emulated DS game. In PH and ST the boss battles use the both screens but account for the gap between the screens where the emulator will record with no gap. Here is the solution I've come up with. I was wonder what people thought. As always any feedback is greatly appreciated.
 * It's pretty hard to make out even by clicking the YT video page itself. You'd need a microscope to be able to see it in regular page-type sizes... --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  07:42, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Duly noted. Here is a second attempt with the gameplay larger. Here is also the untouched video from the emulator for a reference. I might also be able to gain space with the embedded video if I go to a 4x3 ratio instead of 16x9 --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:09, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Here is how it done in a 4x3 ratio would look like when embedded. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:33, August 5, 2010 (UTC) kCWmPNMPflo

Yeah!--Hylianhero777 (talk) 12:15, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think this idea has to be the best I've seen of a recording of a DS game. I think we should definately go with this one. It's clean, it's crisp, and it's not blurry in any way. --<font color="#00FF66">Jazzi <font color="#6600FF">Jäzzi Japas Artwork.png 03:34, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Would anybody be willing to volunteer to do the PH and/or the ST videos. While I am able to get quality videos, it makes my emulator run at about half speed. This makes the games almost unplayable for me. Thanks in advance for any help. --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Quick Update
I now have to ability to do all the Gamecube games and Skyward Sword in 480p. I have ordered a HD PVR that can record up to 1080i. I also have the component cables for my Gamecube and all the Zelda games support progressive scan. Once the PVR arrives I'll get some test videos up on my personal Youtube channel for quality test and then start working on the Gamecube games with FSA being first (since it is one of two I haven't beat). I will also get SS videos on my first play though of the game once it comes out. --Birdman5589 (talk) 20:28, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am currently getting some test videos put on my personal Youtube account. These first two videos are identical except one is encoded in HD while the other is encoded in the native 480p for the game. Encoding in HD might help prevent quality loss in the upload but at the same time it might not do anything since it is only a 480p signal to begin with. Please change the quality settings to the highest for each when they are viewed so you can give proper feedback. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. --Birdman5589 (talk) 21:03, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I am impressed like nobody's business here. But I can barely notice any changes between HD and 480, so there's really no point in that, I think. Well, at least for the GameCube games. Skyward Sword might be another story. Try a test video of another Wii game in both 480p and HD, and see if there's any difference. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  21:35, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here are some more test videos if anybody is interested. FSA, TWW Title Screen, and TWW. I will do some test footage from Wii games later tonight or tomorrow. --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:55, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

I have some test videos of Wii games up now. There are five games with clips under two minutes. I did the extra video of Other: M to see if a lower bitrate and thus lower file size would have a noticeable difference in quality. --Birdman5589 (talk) 14:45, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Metroid Other: M (480p, HD, lower bitrate 480p)
 * Little King's Story (480p, HD)
 * Mario Galaxy 2 (480p, HD)
 * Red Steel 2 (480p, HD)
 * Monster Hunter Tri (480p, HD)
 * I was able to discern some difference in Other M (480p and HD), but the others... not so much. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  17:11, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Four Swords Adventures
I have a quick question regarding the FSA videos. Should I record every Shadow Link battle or just the one towards the end where he is defeated? --Birdman5589 (talk) 19:08, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

That's a good question. I dont think there's too many battles where you have no choice but to fight him. One for each shadow battle stage I think. It would e nice to have them all recorded then again I dont really see how we could use them for the site without having half a dozen videos on the shadow link page. I say record them all an see if you can fit them into one video at the end. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 20:26, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * What if I have them for each stage but only do the one towards the end where he is defeated on the ZP page? --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:07, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

That probably work too <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 07:11, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Another quick question regarding the FSA videos. On the Death Mountain level on the first two stages, there are essentially two boss battles each. On the first stage there is the Hinox battle followed directly by the Chief Soldier battle. On the second stage there is the Shadow Link followed directly by the Helmaroc King battle. On the second stage I'm going to do videos for both battles since I've already decided to do all the Shadow Link battles. What should I do for the first stage? So I do a video every time the Chief Solider is at the end of the level? Or should I just to the Hinox video for that stage? --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:40, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Chief Solider appears quite a lot later in the game and as far as I know its more or less the same each time so I'd say just stick with the Hinox video <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 16:26, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Phantom Hourglass
My new computer now allows me to be able to do Phantom Hourglass. However I've run into a concern. The fist few videos I did don't seem to have the best video quality. I have played with some settings and believe I finally have achieved the quality I thought I should have been getting. The video on the Crayk page should be the higher quality compared to the Big Eye Plant and Cyclok pages for example. Does the Crayk video have a better image quality or am I crazy? If it does, is it so much better that I should redo the first videos? --Birdman5589 (talk) 15:56, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

meh. I put all of them on the highest quality and full screen and i didn't notice a difference. Keep the settings for the crayk video but don't redo the first couple.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 19:42, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I will not that I still have the raw files so re-doing them would not be hard as the setting I have changed were in the converting process. The difference in quality is best seen when looking at the hearts and text. --Birdman5589 (talk) 20:02, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Here is the Blaaz video I currently have up compared to it being redone. 1IMcde7UMk4 9NVFFQ9D7U0 The current one is the first one followed by a redone version I uploaded to my personal account. --Birdman5589 (talk) 19:06, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

The one on the right seems slightly better on my computer <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 19:24, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, one on the right has much better text.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 22:22, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Wind Waker
I have a few questions for the first video from The Wind Waker. For the Dragon Roost Cavern mini-boss, it is two Bokoblins and a Moblin. First, how should I name the video when I upload it? Second, what page should the video be posted on if it should be on a page at all? Thanks in advance for any feedback. --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:28, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I decided to upload it as "Dragon Roost Cavern Mini-Boss (The Wind Waker)". If anybody has a better idea on how to name the video I'm still open for suggestions. I would still like feedback on what page if any to put the video on. The best place in my opinion would pry be on the Dragon Roost Cavern page but that would pry look clunky so I'm leaning to not having it on a page. --Birdman5589 (talk) 06:28, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well its the first time you fight a moblin in the game so it seems as if he's the real mini boss but then ignoring the Bokobins completely doesnt seem right. Since you fight three enemies anyway shouldn't it be called "Dragon Roost Cavern Mini-Bosses (The Wind Waker)" <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 16:39, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Noted and changed. Thanks for pointing that out. --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:00, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering if I should use the Hero's Charm for the black and white battles? Since the battles are the same, I thought it would be a nice addition. What are people's thoughts on this?
 * I think it'd be pretty good, since it is the same battle, just repeated. And it'd be cool to actually be able to see the damage. --<font color="#00BFF3">ϐαςς <font color="#35077D">ᴶαϟϟι Japas Artwork.png 13:23, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Does anybody feel differently? I'm most likely going to start on those videos later today or over the weekend. --Birdman5589 (talk) 15:58, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * sounds good.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 23:10, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Majora's Mask
I just want to ask should we feature the final battle in Majora's Mask using the Fierce Deity's Mask? The game does set it up so that you should use the mask (if it weren't for the fact that the game saves itself after the last battle it'd be the only place you could use the mask) for that particular fight and a lot of people do. Perhaps we should feature all bosses using the fierce deity's mask to just for the fun of it. After all we're not going to have very many videos for Majora's Mask compared to the other games due to it's low number of dungeons and bosses. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 16:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fierce Deity vs Majora should absolutely be a video. So should non FD Link vs Majora. I think we might as well do the other bosses with FD, except for the fact that the Fierce Deity Mask sucks against Twinmold. Seriously. You have to walk up to it and hit it with your sword, while not a giant. The sword beams are never going to hit when you're Z targeted because Tatl doesn't know how to lead a target. You could potentially "Z Target" nothing and just face forward and shoot beams, but it'd only work in limited situations, given that you'd only be able to shoot straight along the ground. If I tried this I'd want to be using the Goron mask half the time to roll up to where Twinmold was, then go FD for damage. Some FD vids would be good but if we wanted to do a complete set, Twinmold would be weird. Goht is definitely doable with FD, but really it's easier with the Goron mask (though if you knock it down, you can go FD just for the damage if you don't have the Great Fairy's Sword, which does the same damage I believe). That's not to say I wouldn't totally do the Twinmold thing if we wanted the video though (and if I can ever get recording going).--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 21:05, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought we were aiming to have it done in the intended way. While exploits aren't really being used, its pretty much safe to say that Goht, Gyorg and Twinmold were intended to be fought with the Goron Mask, Zora Mask and Giant's Mask respectively. A video without Fierce Deity's Mask could work because it isn't required to have, whereas you're basically intended to have the three aforementioned mask in the battles I listed. - McGillivray  227  21:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to agree with McGillivray227 on this one. --Birdman5589 (talk) 21:31, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats a no for having a Fierce Deity Battle for the first four bosses how about for Majora's three forms? <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 21:38, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would say it could be done. In every game we are doing 100% completion so therefore it would be available for the Majora battles. --Birdman5589 (talk) 22:06, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Video List
I figured with the decent amount of discussion on this page at the moment, now would be a good time to ask about getting a list made up for when I get around to doing the Majora's Mask videos. Since I've only finished the game once, I really don't know enough about what I will all need to get recordings of. If the people that are more acquainted with the game, I would greatly appreciate it if you would start to make a chronological list of videos to obtain from Majora's Mask. Thanks. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:55, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Other than the boss battles, which I'm sure you know of, I'm fairly sure that almost all of the cutscenes are fairly story-based. I originally thought of listing them, but it would be a fairly long list. As for bonus videos and such, I think the "Them" part and Cremia's Carriage bit should be included along with the ending of the Couple's Mask sidequest (the Sakon's Hideout bit). - McGillivray  227  00:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * I will gladly list all the battles/cut scenes/etc. that you will encounter in chronological order, and anything else you need to know, but I'm not familiar with what all we include. Do we include cut scenes of learning songs, dungeon intros, side quests, etc.? Do you want me to say what happens just before each scene/battle/whatever so you can anticipate it or anything like that? Tell me what exactly to look for and I can give you a list.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 21:56, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you thought about looking at the channel and basing the criteria on what we've already done <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 23:26, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * We don't do any minor scenes or things such as learning songs. It is more about getting scenes that are central to the main story. But go ahead and list whatever you thing and then people can discuss if we need more or if some aren't very important. --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:09, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, here's my suggested list. Yes, it's long (though you might have been expecting that considering it's me an I'm talking about Majora's Mask). If you want just skim the titles till you find something questionable. If you think it's just ridiculously involved and don't want to read it (I've been known to have that effect on people) I can also just go over it and make a shorter/simpler one based on my own opinion of what is least important. Anyway:

01 Intro - Obviously need this, and the current one on our channel is cut short. This should probably include all the way until you exit the clock tower and Tatl finishes talking to you, when you again regain control of Link. There is some brief gameplay of Link following Skull Kid through a single screen in the lost woods, and then of Link using a couple Deku Flowers. If we cut both of these out it would divide it into the Skull Kid stealing Link's Ocarina/running away, Skull Kid transforming Link/Tatle getting stranded, and meeting the Happy Mask Salesman, which are logical places to divide it anyway. Transitioning between the first two of those vids might feel a little disjointed and the gameplay between them is only brief, but we can go either way here. 02 Facing the Skull Kid (First Time) - I'd start this at the demo that plays when you're in South Clock Town at midnight (fireworks display, the tower opens), and end it after you've looped and Tatl says her bit about how everything's started over. 03 Happy Mask Salesman/Deku Mask - Starting from when you talk to the Happy Mask Salesman, he freaks out, tells you about Majora's Mask, teaches you the Song of Healing, and you break the curse/shed the Deku Mask. End it whenever you get control back or else step outside again and I think Tatl will say something about where to go next. You might also want to put the Deku Mask on and off once to show off the transformation. Bonus - At this point you can do the side quest involved in Bonus Video 6 (Hidden Anju/Mom Scene) at any time. 04 Tatl's Story - When you are about to enter the path to Woodfall from southern Termina field, a cut scene happens in which Tatl remembers how she and Tael met the Skull Kid. 05 Imprisoned Monkey/Sonata of Awakening - A lot of the songs in MM are learned in tandem with story events, so while we wouldn't have a video just cause you learned a song, several of them might be worth it given the surrounding story events. The Monkey tells you about the trouble in Woodfall, teaches you the song, and you get thrown out. XX Kaepora Gaebora/Song of Soaring - This is sort of questionable but if you think the Kaepora Gaebora meetings are noteworthy enough you could include them. 06 Woodfall Temple: Dinolfos - Mini-boss fight. You'll also get the Bow. 07 Woodfall Temple: Gekko and Snapper - Mini-boss fight. You'll also get the Big Key. 08 Woodfall Temple: Odolwa - The Boss. 09 First Giant/Woodfall Clear - After the boss, you'll warp to the magic whatever place and talk to one of the Giants. I'd include the poison water clearing scene and just end it when you regain control of Link. 10 Post Boss Resolution: Deku Princess/Freeing the Monkey - As with the first 3 OoT dungeons, there is some resolution to be had after you've averted whatever crisis. All of these scenes in MM however, are optional, and less and less significant the further along you are. Talking to the Deku Princess/bringing her to the palace and the cut scene that follows is probably worth a video, though some of the latter post boss resolution might not be. You could also include this in the First Giant/Woodfall Clear video if you want. XX Kaepora Gaebora 2 - Kaepora Gaebora appears to help you reach the Lense of Truth, and again if you think his appearance is noteworthy than we can make a video for it. 11 Healing Darmani/Goron Mask - I would definitely make a vid of everything from talking to Darmani at the grave up until you regain control. I'd also go ahead and put the Goron Mask on and show the transformation. 12 Goron Lullaby - Learning the Goron Lullaby is done in 2 parts, and is also sort of involved with the story, like with learning the Sonata of Awakening. It might be worth inclusion. And you can do this before or after getting the Goron Mask, though it's a little simpler after. 13 Snowhead Temple: Wizrobe battles 1 and 2 - Both mini-boss fights are with the same type of foe, and thus can be spliced together into the same vid, like has been done in similar situations. Note that the game calls them "Wizrobe" with one z as opposed to "Ice Wizzrobe". There is a fire-using Wizrobe later on though if we feel we should distinguish them in the video titles. 14 Snowhead Temple: Goht - The Boss. 15 Second Giant/Snowhead Clear - After the Boss you'll warp to and talk to the second Giant, and then there'll be a little cinematic of Snowhead, now back to spring. XX Post Boss Resolution: Patriarch - If you go to the Goron Shrine and talk to people you can see a little scene of the Goron's cheering for "Darmani" and the Elder offering to make him Patriarch. Not as big a deal as the Deku Princess scene, but you could have it if you want. Again, this could be combined with the previous video, though you'd have to warp/roll to the shrine. Bonus - At this point you can do the side quests involved in Bonus Videos 3 and 4 ("Them"/Cremia's Wagon) at any time. 16 Healing Mikau/Zora Mask - Start from when you see Mikau in the bay, end after Link has made his grave and you regain control, again I think it'd be cool to also go ahead and put on the Zora Mask you just got. 17 Aveil - There's a scene in Pirate's Fortress when you're spying on Avail and knocking the Bee's nest down on her. It's not that pivotal but maybe you'd include it. ''Bonus - At this point (after receiving the Hookshot from Aveil's chamber) you can do the side quest involved in Bonus Video 11 (Granny's Stories). You'll need the All-Night Mask, and to get that you'll need both wallet upgrades, and to get those you'll need to put enough rupees in the bank and use the Hookshot to complete the Oceanside Spider House on the First Day.'' Bonus - At this point (after receiving the Hookshot and obtaining the Garo Mask) you can also do the side quest involved in Bonus Video 5 (Sakon's Hideout) at any time. 18 Out of Dungeon Mini-Boss: Gerudo Pirates - You fight 3 different Gerudo Pirates as mini-bosses. You could probably just cut out the battles and splice all three together in one video. Might as well wear the Stone Mask if you have it when encountering either the orange or green one, as that would show off all the possible dialogue the pirates have (the Purple one says something different than the other two when encountered normally). 19 Zora Hatching/New Wave Bossanova - Again this is a song learning scene but significant in the plot. 20 Lulu Sings/Giant Turtle - I didn't bother suggesting the other 2 temple intros, but this is a big one story wise as Lulu's voice returns, the Giant Turtle awakens and talks to you, the Gerudo Pirates attempt to penetrate Great Bay Temple, and the turtle brings Link there. 21 Great Bay Temple: Wart - Mini-boss fight. You'll also get the Ice Arrows. 22 Great Bay Temple: Gekko and Mad Jelly - Mini-boss fight. You'll also get the Big Key. 23 Great Bay Temple: Gyorg - The Boss. 24 Second Giant/Great Bay Clear - Talking to the third Giant, followed by a few words from the Giant Turtle. XX Post Boss Resolution: Rehearsal - The only resolution here is the brief concert rehearsal you can play if you talk to Lulu on the stage. Less important than the last two post boss resolution scenes. Also could be tacked on to the previous video. 25 Out of Dungeon Mini-Boss: Captain Keeta - I'd say make a video from awakening him up to getting the Captain's Hat. 26 Out of Dungeon Mini-Boss: Iron Knuckle - You will encounter an Iron Knuckle beneath the grave that can be opened on the First Day. This could also include the subsequent learning of the Song of Storms from Flat. 27 Flat/Farewell to Gibdo - Flat tries to kill you. It would be cool to show off the easter egg that happens when you play the Song of Healing to him. Then play the Song of Storms to progress. He talks, the water's source is restored, and the Music Box House plays its song and drives away the Gibdo. 28 Pamela's Father - There's a scene where Pamela's Gibdofied father goes after you and you heal him with the Song of Healing, producing the Gibdo Mask. 29 Out of Dungeon Mini-Boss: Wizrobe (Fire) - You fight a fire Wizrobe as a mini-boss in the Ancient Castle of Ikana, in the right wing of the dungeon. I always forget this guy is here, but he is indeed a mini-boss so a video would seem to be in order. 30 Out of Dungeon Mini-Boss: Igos and his Bodyguards - There is an intro and then you fight them. You can show off the easter egg that happens when you use the Bremen Mask in front of the bodyguards, as well as the one in which you don the Captain's Hat when fighting Igos himself. After his defeat Igos talks to you and teaches you the Elegy of Emptiness, which I would recommend including. 31 Stone Tower Temple: Garo Master - Mini-boss fight, now with bonus dialogue! You'll also get the Light Arrows. 32 Stone Tower Temple: Eyegore battles 1 and 2 - These are either Mini-boss fights or just major enemy fights depending on your definition, but either way we could include them. The first battle happens as soon as you leave the Garo Master's room. The second would usually not happen until after you fight Gomess (the next video), but technically it is possible to fight the second Eyegore first, you just have to wander along a path that most players probably wont take the first time through. I would just splice these two Eyegore battles together and not worry about weather you technically did the Gomess battle in between or not during your particular run though. You'll get the Giant's Mask from the second Eyegore. 33 Stone Tower Temple: Gomess - Mini-boss fight. You'll also get the Big Key. 34 Stone Tower Temple: Twinmold - The Boss. 35 Fourth Giant/Stone Tower Clear - You'll meet with the last Giant, and get a brief scene of... something happening with what looks like a portal. You will then spawn right next to a Guay and probably get hit by it. This region has no post boss resolution scene to go find. In fact, very little changes when you beat Twinmold. It's a land of restless dead people. You don't get any more closure. Run along. ''Bonus - At this point you can do the side quest involved in Bonus Video 8 (Secret Shrine) at any time, so long as you've accumulated 16 Heart Containers. Technically all you need is the Light Arrows, but most likely you'll just finish Stone Tower Temple first anyway.'' 36 Facing Skull Kid (last time)/Calling the Giants/Majora Revealed - I'd mimic the last Skull Kid confrontation vid and start with the scene of the Clock Tower opening, and go all the way to the Moon, or wherever that strange place is. Bonus - At this point you can do the side quest involved in Bonus Video 9 (Lunar childeren) at any time, though if you want to fight Majora without receiving the Fierce Deity Mask during the intro, you'll want to wait. 37 Majora's Mask - Final Boss, phase 1. I'd recommend not using the Fierce Deity Mask, and making the FD vids bonus videos. I'd start the video with talking to the creepy kid, without giving the other children your masks/receiving the FD mask, and fight him anyway. 38 Majora'a Incarnation - Final Boss phase 2. 39 Majora's Wrath - Final Boss final phase. 40 Ending - The full version. Bonus 1: Demo 1 - Looks like we include the demos as bonuses. You could start it with the Majora's Mask flying by/Happy Mask Salesman laughing part and on into the demo. Bonus 2: Demo 2 - There's also a second demo. Bonus 3: "Them" - The battle against "Them" would be a good bonus, as Sally suggested. Can be done any time after about #18 (beating Snowhead). Bonus 4: Cremia's Wagon - Protecting Cremia's Wagon and the scenes before/after would also be good as a bonus, like Sally said. If you want it to end with receiving Romain's Mask then you'll need to be recording it the first time through. You could also end it on a hug because hugs are awesome. Can be done any time after about #18 (beating Snowhead), and you'll need to stop "Them" for it to happen. Bonus 5: Sakon's Hideout/Anju and Kafei - Also as per Sally's suggestion, the Sakon's hideout sequence and scene in Anju's room afterward would be a good bonus. It also involves hugs. Can be done any time after #20 (getting the Hookshot) and requires the Garo's Mask, and you'll have to of course execute the first several steps of the quest. Bonus 6: Anju/Mom Scene - There's that hidden scene between Anju and her Mom if you listen from the Knife Chamber. It sort of fits with the "bonus" theme but it might be too obscure to worry about. You can do this any time after #3 (regaining your Hylian form) if you get the room key. Bonus 7: Destruction of Termina - I think this definitely needs to be a bonus. Just let the clock run out and watch it all end. You can of course do this one any time. Bonus 8+: Secret Shrine - The Secret Shrine behind the waterfall has a series of Mini-Bosses, which is something we usually have videos for. However, they're more or less the same fights as in the dungeons (there are 3 Dinolfos instead of one and i guess the Wizrobe's arena is a little harder to maneuver through). Can be done any time after about #38 (getting the Light Arrows), though you'll need 16 Heart Containers to enter the last fight. Bonus X: Lunar Dungeons - You could throw in the Lunar Dungeons if you want. The Hylian/Twinmold one in particular has some mini-bosses that show up as enemies. Remember to bring bombchu and some arrows. Can be done any time after #39 (going to the Moon), but you'll want to hold off with this if you want to have an FD mask free Majora battle intro when you first fight it. Bonus 9: Lunar Children - You could throw in a video that splices together all the conversations with the four Lunar Childeren, which happen when you talk to them in the field and after finding them in their hide and seek games. Can be done any time after #39 (going to the Moon), but you'll want to hold off with this if you want to have an FD mask free Majora battle intro when you first fight it. Bonus 10+: Fierce Deity - Above this Video List section is the discussion about the Fierce Deity. From the discussion thus far I think the intent would be to make videos of the battles with Majora's forms (that's the point of the FD mask), but not the other bosses (that's sort of ancillary to the game as you can't get the FD mask till after you've beaten them all, and Twinmold with the FD mask would be mind numbing). You could do Majora as 3 videos or all together as one. Our standard is generally to separate the boss phases, but these are pretty connected (all the same arena, only separated by short cutscenes) and with the FD mask they'd be really short videos individually. Whatever we do I'd make the FD vids bonuses and leave the non-FD battle as part of the main series. If you record it on the first time you get the mask, you could also include talking to the Majora kid and receiving the mask before the battle. Bonus 11: Granny's Stories - You can pursue this any time after you have the Hookshot. You'll need the All-Night Mask which you can buy from the Curiosity Shop on the Final Day if you've stopped Sakon from stealing the bomb bags. It costs 500 rupees though, so you'll need to get 2 wallet upgrades; 1 from depositing enough in the bank, and the other for completing the Oceanside Spider House on the First Day (that's what you need the Hookshot for). Wear the mask and talk to Granny and have her read you the two stories.

Whew. So those are my thoughts. I'm sorry it's so long, Majora's Mask is very side story based so it's hard to tell when something is considered a "major" story scene or not (you can't just pick the parts with Ganon or the Triforce or the Master Sword). Also sorry if I gave too much information, I just wanted to be clear what the scenes were/why they were significant. And I'm really not sorry that there were jokes in there, because that's to be expected if you sit there and write something that long. And Birdy, if you need any more information about when these happen specifically (like with the mini-bosses) so you can be expecting them (I don't know if you record it all and then clip parts out or start recording when something's about to happen), then let me know and I can provide that.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 03:20, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think the intro scenes would be better as several parts without gameplay that's just the way I feel. I also think the two Ice Whizrobe battles should be spliced into one since they are essentially the same battle only with more warp tiles. I also personally feel the post boss resolutions are a bit needless for Snowhead and Great Bay as are the Kaepora Gaebora meetings. I'd also suggest showing off some of the easter eggs that can be performed in some of the videos like playing the Song of Healing to Flat and wearing the masks against Igos. I also wouldn't like gameplay videos on the moon dungeons since were not really making a walkthrough or anything and the dungeons themselves have little story in them. Maybe a video of all the questions the Lunar Children ask. Some other videos that can be suggested include Tatl's story of the Skull Kid told when you first try to enter the Southern Swamp and perhaps Granny's full story's with the All Night Mask. Finally I would once again like to suggest the Eye Gore as a mini boss as you get a major sub screen item upon it's defeat. That's what I think anyway <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 09:50, July 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm leaning towards keeping the ice Wizrobe battles in separate vids, just cause that would be more consistent with how we handle other in-dungeon mini-boss battles. That could go either way though. Yeah, the Snowhead/Greay Bay resolutions, Kaepora Gaebora meetings, and Moon Dungeons are probably not necessary. I like the idea of showing off the Sharp and Guards/Igos easter eggs. A video of the Lunar Children and Granny's Stories could also work, and I definitely think we should include Tatl's story about meeting Skull Kid, I missed that when I was going through the game in my head. I'm not sure where I stand with defining Eyegores as mini-bosses, since the mini-boss theme doesn't play and you aren't locked in the room, but we could have a video for them regardless of whether or not we technically define them as full fledged mini-bosses. I can incorporate the new ideas into the above list some point later.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 22:23, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually we seem to compile identical mini boss battles together already, both the Lizalfos battles are under one video in Ocarina of Time as are all the Poe Sister fights. The Lizalfos scenario is the exact same as the Ice Whizrobe, identical battles just in a different arena. Even if it was the case to split them I'd question what the best name to give them, Ice Whizrobe first/second battle Ice Whizrobe Fire Arrows/bosses key. Keeping them under just one Ice Whizrobe video seems best to me anyway. It's not like there's going to be any major differences between the two battles. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 19:31, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the list. It will pry be a little while before I get started on it, so go ahead and refine further. --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:34, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Updated the list based on the conversation thus far. It's only been Oni who suggested changes so far but I agree with all his addition and removal recommendations now so I incorporated them, leaving the removed ones up but with a line through them. I see we try to show off some of the characteristics of bosses/mini-bosses as opposed to just pwning them (I know Birdman did that extensively with OoT Dark Link), so if you want me to think about what to do along those lines I can.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 06:17, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Request
I've tried posting this as a comment on the channel's page but it didn't work for some reason. Anyway You fight a Gleeok with three and four heads in later dungeons of the original. Since there is a major difference between the fights we should probably get videos for them like the way we have for the bosses in Ganon's Tower and the Temple of Four Swords. If whoever recorded the original videos the first time has a save state close to their location (they appear in level 6 and 8) it'd be great to get a video of them. If not I could do it since I still have the equipment I used to record the Zelda II videos but it'll probably take me awhile to get that far in the game. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 11:51, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree this should happen. I've been save stating regularly throughout my 2nd quest playthrough, and I intend to get some video recording software in the near future, but unfortunately I really can't make any guarantees that I can do this at all soon. If somebody wants me to send them a JNES save state ( NOT through ZP but in e-mail or something) I can look up the closest one to a however-many-headed Gleeok battle.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 12:26, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Mr kmil was the one that did the LoZ videos. I have no clue if he would still have the save states. As for getting another video, I feel that we would only need to get one more. If we get a video of when Gleeok has the most heads, I think it would suffice. The difference between the battles really just comes down to more heads flying around the room to make it harder. The problem with JNES is it doesn't have a built in video recording feature. If JNES would let you make a battery backup save file, it could be used to import a save to FCEUX. I believe that FCEUX will let you record a AVI file. An emulator will capture capabilities would work the best because screen capture software tends to result in a lot of frame drops if you computer isn't a beast. I would go get the video myself, but I just don't have the time. Oni, I think Youtube thinks your comments are spam since your name has some many oooooooooo's in it. I've had to mark a few of your comments as not spam before. --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:08, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Me a spammer? That sucks. Anyway I have a week off the week after next so if it hasn't been sorted by then i'll get on it with my fceux <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 17:11, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've went a got that video (took a lot less time then I was expecting) and I'm uploading it to the channel now but I'm unsure what to call it. Gleeok Level 8 (The Legend of Zelda), Gleeok Four Heads (The Legend of Zzelda), I'm not sure neither sound right to me. what does everybody else think? <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:35, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe the correct way to name it is "Gleeok: Level 8 (The Legend of Zelda)". On the video, it seems fine to me, but it should remain on the channel only in my opinion, much like the Shadow Link videos. - McGillivray  227  22:41, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well we have both of the A Link to the Past and The Wind Waker videos on the boss's pages <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:50, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

I went ahead and fixed the naming for each Gleeok battle. I went with Gleeok: Level 4 (The Legend of Zelda) and Gleeok: Level 8 (The Legend of Zelda). --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:31, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * What about adding the second video to the page, does anyone have anything else to say on that matter? <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 23:50, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't see what other video you're talking about. What is the second video?--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 00:35, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Adding the second Gleeok video to the Gleeok article <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 00:53, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * OH, adding it to the page. Yes, I think we should. That's how we handled the recurring ALttP bosses.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 01:54, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Should we also have separate vids for other boss battle variations? These include Digdogger that splits into 3 instead of 1, 3x Dodongos at once, blue Gohma, and battles that have various numbers of fire shooting statues in the room.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 05:20, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't think so. With the Gleeok videos, they were each the final boss of a level. All the other boss variations would be "mini-bosses" but since LoZ really doesn't have clear mini-bosses we only did videos for the level's final boss. --Birdman5589 (talk) 05:29, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * There is a three part Digdogger as the final boos of level 4 in the second quest, a blue Gohma as the final boss of level 6 in the second quest, and triple Dodongos as the final boss of level 8 in the second quest. All of these also have 4 fire shooting statues in the room, further changing the battle.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 09:36, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * That then becomes an issue of if should we do videos for the second quest. I personally don't think we need them, but you should pry start a second about it so the community can decide. --Birdman5589 (talk) 14:22, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Non-Canon
I was wondering if we should do videos for the non-canon games that are spinoffs. Specificly Link's Crossbow Training but could also include the Tingle games on the DS and CDi games. Sould we include these games, do nothing about them, or make a second channel specifially for non-canon content? --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:22, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I say we should do them eventually and on the same channel but for now lets focus all our energy into completing the main series <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 18:49, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Once the entire main series is done, yes.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 20:17, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * As everybody else said, sure, with cannon stuff being the priority. And I'd agree Link's Crossbow Training outweighs the Tingle games and the CDI games, if we even want to bother with those (mentioning both in one sentence is making me ill). Oh yeah, there's also BS Zelda no Densetsu (I don't know if this can even be emulated due to live satellite whatever-the-deal-was), and the Zelda LCD games, if anybody has them, not that you can really record the latter very well.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 20:42, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * BS Zelda games can be emulated. I'm guessing that over 90% of the people who have played the games have emulated them. On the note of the CDI games we usually do boss battle videos yet I don't think we have any pages for bosses in the CDI series so who ever does playthrough them will probably have to make quite a few pages <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 20:56, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup, main series takes priority. As for the Zelda LCD games, it is clearly mentioned on the page that Game & Watch Gallery 4 contained a remake of it and as much as I know about the Game & Watch Gallery series, they are normally quite true to the originals and comparing images of the remake and the original seem to show that they are incredibly close (other than the clear one screen thing). Basically saying that the Game & Watch Gallery 4 version should be sufficient if Game & Watch emulation can't be done. That seems to leave just the Zelda Game Watch, which I doubt emulation would be possible. - McGillivray  227  21:03, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

One video per LCD game would probably suffice. From what I've seen it's basically just fighting normal enemies then fighting Aquamentus. Pretty straight forward. I don't think it should be left out though. We are trying to cover everything after all <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 21:09, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree to get the main series done first. However, I'm approaching the point where all the games I'm currently capable of doing are almost done. Once I finish Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, I will be done with the games I'm currently able to get videos from (unless somebody sends me a N64 and some games). I would however like to have all of the main series completed (besides maybe Four Swords) before starting on any non-canon games. As for doing the BS games, I'm not really sure how to handle them. They can be emulated, but they have to be patched to be playable so they loose some of the aspects of the gameplay. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:03, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * We don't really have any other option but emulation if we want to cover the BS Zelda games. Of course we should find a rom thats closest to the original but unless we blackmail nintendo into setting the satellite back up we can't play it in its original form <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 08:02, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * The thing with the BS games is that we really don't have any pages for dungeons or boss. At the same time I'm not sure if we need all that information when it comes to the BS games (which should pry be another discussion). --Birdman5589 (talk) 16:41, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't imagine any reason why we shouldn't have pages covering those games. Noncanonis probably wouldn't be a problem since we have so many Tingle series pages. It is a lesser branch of Zelda knowledge for many people and we are a site that provides info so having them is almost vital in my opinion. But if people disagree it could get its own discussion <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 18:40, February 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Since that sight does have the Zelda Game & Watch coming soon, I think we should wait a while and see if it is added. If it is exactly like the actual Game & Watch unit I think it would be the better route to go. I did some test videos with a screen recorder I have the recording somehow would desync the audio and make it speed up. --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:06, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Link's Crossbow Training
After I get done with Twilight Princess I might get started recording the levels from Link's Crossbow Training (but I won't upload them yet). I was wondering how people thought the videos should be done. I was thinking that each level should show hitting every target to get the Triforce bonus points at the end. I was also thinking that every video for this game should have received a Platinum rating for each level. I wasn't sure if people would think that it would be better to not hit every target and just have a pretty basic run though of each level. --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:06, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not certain how the mechanics work with Link's Cross Bow Training. Can you hit everything and still take damage? Does anything special happen if you miss a target? The reason why we don't defeat bosses instantly in the boss videos in main series games is to show all aspects of the battle, if that can be done while still hitting every target then I say hit every target <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 19:09, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * The only thing that happens if you miss is losing the score multiplier. In other with actual enemies levels you might also lose some points. In the end but not hitting every target or getting hit by an enemy, all that results is a lower score. --Birdman5589 (talk) 20:57, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I imagine you wouldn't have to have the score multiplier throughout the whole level in order to get the platinum rating. Missing wouldn't have to be done often maybe only two or three times per stage same with getting hit. I say do the best you can without being perfect <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 22:08, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I think you might as well go for perfect, I mean of curse you lose your multiplier when hit, people will know that already.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 12:57, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well obviously getting perfect in every level would be impossible but my point was mainly do good enough to get platinum. I put up a video of the first level that would show how I was thinking about doing the videos for this. It can be found here. As always any feedback is greatly appreciated. --Birdman5589 (talk) 04:05, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * To me that seems to be perfect for what we're trying to do. Only we tend to have pages for each of the separate stages here on zeldapedia so maybe it'd be better to have one stage per video if we want to use them on the site.Then again that would make a lot more Link Cross Bow training videos and we don't want to make non cannon things being the most prominent thing on the channel <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 15:22, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm still trying to figure out how to break the videos up. I feel that the videos would be best if they were kept as levels. Like you said that would cause problems on how to have them on pages. The best fix, if it is possible, is to figure out how to make a video on a page start at a desired time spot. I know it can be done with regular Youtube embed code but I have yet to figure out how it can be done on a Wikia page. If we could figure this out, we would be able to keep the videos as the complete level and then have the videos on their respective page start at that stage portion. --Birdman5589 (talk) 18:25, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * If thats possible it would be more then adequately perfect <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 20:31, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been playing around with trying to get the videos to start at a certain time but I haven't had any luck. I know how to alter the URL by adding either &t=000s or #t=000s where the zeros would be the time in seconds. However, this does not change anything with any of the ways to add videos in Wikia. If anybody knows of or can find any alternative to make this work, it would be greatly appreciated. --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:39, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Zelda Game & Watch
The Zelda Game & Watch is now available on Pica Pic. If anybody has a screen capture program, it would be great if you would record footage of it. The game may seem like it just repeats itself but I believe it can be beat by going though the same routine 8 times (8 pieces of the triforce). If somebody could record at the very least the final time it is repeated before you beat the game, it would most excellent.
 * Since we were discussing different ways to get video of the Zelda Game & Watch, I figured that I would say that I believe using the site about is the best option. From what I've seen it is accurate to the actual unit where the version on the Game & Watch collection is a little different. --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:13, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can anyone upload the latest SS trailer to Zeldapedia’s YouTube Page?
It would be helpful.__ShutUpNavi (talk) 22:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you can give me a link to one of the videos that lack any watermarkings, then I could do it, but as far as I've seen, it's been water markings galore... - McGillivray  227  23:41, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nintendo has yet to put the file for the video on their press site. Once it is put up for the press, I will upload it. --Birdman5589 (talk) 23:46, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I do have the video off of the GDC stream that Nintendo did. However, the stream is only at a 640x360 resolution so I'm going to wait to see if they post it on their site at a higher resolution by the end of the week. If they haven't I'll upload the low resolution version I have on Saturday. --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:14, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Just for reference, If you get the better quality one, take down the other one and upload a HQ version, with more tags. Those tags are our best bet for getting subs.--Hylianhero777 (talk) 16:36, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ocarina of Time 3D
I was recently able to obtain the highest resolution video of the 3DS title montage that included a very short section (only 5 seconds) with footage of OoT 3D. I uploaded just that section of the video to my channel where one version cropped out the 3DS background image. I was wondering if one of these very short videos would be useful for the ZeldapeidaVideo Youtube page.

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If I did put one of these on the Youtube page it would be a "Bonus Video" under the Ocarina of Time playlist. --Birdman5589 (talk) 03:24, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe... Don't get me wrong, we already have a few short videos (Totaka's Song, Goriya Brothers to name two), but those at least break 15 seconds. It seems just way too short that it would be all around useful, in my opinion. I wouldn't be entirely opposed to it if longer videos do not come out though. - McGillivray  227  13:48, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * The very short length was the thing that was holding me back also. --Birdman5589 (talk) 18:00, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

This video also shows different footage of the game. Unless we threw a couple of videos together with some original music I don't see it working (and even then that doesn't seem favorable since we tend to do things in their original format). Not at five seconds anyway its a bit too short. If there was a full trailer similar to the ones for other games then I'd say yes but at five seconds I don't see much point <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 16:51, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Nintendo has come out with the following OoT 3D video. j53eWrwbvMY I'm in the process of downloading it form their press site now. Should this be put on the Youtube channel? I'm going to say yes but I want others input since it is from the 3DS version. --Birdman5589 (talk) 00:15, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I just went ahead an decided to upload. If people disagree with this decision, removing it form the channel can be discussed. --Birdman5589 (talk) 01:15, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Since it is a full video and a legit trailer I have serious doubts anyone will disagree. On a note about the actual video though I'm quite surprised the age rating says it has animated blood (probably Ganondorf's two second green blood) and suggestive themes...I can't think of any such suggestive themes in Ocarina of Times original version. Or maybe that notice is just the things 10+ games can contain I don't know I don't pay much attention to ratings. The bomb also looks hugely resized. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 17:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that in general it's fine to go ahead and upload decently long official trailers for a mainstream game like that (as in not a new Tingle game or something), including OoT3D even though it's a remake. Things that come up in the rating are always referring to that specific game (or movie or whatever) as far as I know. And yeah, that bomb was huge. I can see why he'd need a Goron Bracelet for that one. Also, Link's hat is too long. I like how they're using unaltered music and sound effects.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 18:40, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

When to upload non-canon videos?
I know the we originally discussed doing non-canon videos after we finished up the canon games. However, since I have the footage recorded for non-canon games, I was thinking about going ahead of uploading it. I was thinking if I can't find anybody to work on the N64 games before May I would start uploading the Link's Crossbow Training videos. If somebody does start working on the N64 games I'll pry hold off with the non-canon videos. I figured by May the games that are currently being worked on should be getting finished up anyway. The Oracle games are essentially finished and I don't think (hopefully) it will take Minish too much longer to finish up The Minish Cap. What are people's thoughts on starting non-canon uploads in May? --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:41, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * In May should be fine. I also want to add that the Oracle videos are essentially done. (The last four videos are on my HDD and I'm sort of trying to figure out how to remove this annoying green line. The quality is good, there's just the green line on the side of it, which screws everything up.) Then, I'll be going through both games again to get key scenes and such. Enough about that though, non-canon videos should be uploaded in May, should The Minish Cap be finished and the N64 games not be started. - McGillivray  227  04:23, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Commercials/Advertisements
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "To talk of many things: Of shoes and ships and sealing-wax, of cabbages and kings, and why the sea is boiling hot and whether (we should include videos of TV commercials on the Youtube channel)." So I uploaded a TV commericial for OoT 3D and then thought (thinking/discussion ahead of time is overrated) that this is pry a topic that needs to be discussed. I would like to get a lot of feedback about this. One thing to keep in mind is that it will be difficult to obtain older commercials that are a decent quality and not watermarked. --Birdman5589 (talk) 02:07, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I say yay, why not. It wont hurt the channel in anyway. I'm not sure we need to put them on the site but it would be nice to have them there on the channel. Some of those commercials are nice and interesting. If it can be done then let it be done. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 12:11, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

No http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/Kaizer13/SmilingMan.png problem(?) --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  16:51, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob?— Triforce   14 Triforce4.png 17:02, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Some people don't watch TV and wouldn't see the commercials through TV. So yeah, I think it's a good idea.
 * Sounds good to me.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 00:58, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed <font color="#663300">T <font   color="#996600">h <font   color="#CC6600">e Mask-Mimic.gif ™  16:53, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Senate Bill S.978
I'm not entirely sure how many have heard about this bill that may be passed, but I'll leave a link to the entire article on Joystiq here and quickly mention the parts where it concerns us. Essentially, Senate Bill S.978 will act to make "streaming unauthorized copyrighted material a felony, resulting in up to 5-years of jail time." If the bill does pass, "its broadly worded contents could potentially cover everything from homemade gameplay clips (commonly referred to "Let's Play" videos), to fan-made music videos, webcam cover songs, and anything else that involves copyrighted music or video." Almost the entire ZeldapediaVideo channel covers only gameplay clips, everything else being copyrighted video. This next bit might actually concern the wiki itself, as if "accepted into law, these addenda will be attached to existing copyright laws and will not only apply to YouTube users, but to the sites that embed YouTube content as well." I'm assuming the channel will have to go down if this bill goes down, so nobody, you know, gets arrested. - McGillivray  227  03:17, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh, wow. Well, just to get this out of the way, holy crap. That is not good. In any case, if this gets passed I certainly think that the channel goes down immediately-- I definitely don't want to see any of our users get arrested. Regardless of our current situation, it would be terrible if this bill was passed for the entire internet community...It's a real damn shame, too, as I know that a good amount of work has been put into these videos, but I think the legality of our actions is probably what matters most in this case and I'll definitely support taking the channel down immediately if this ends up getting passed. -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish  <font color="#003366">Link   04:37, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

I personally don't think this is anything to worry about. I doubt this will actually cover things like gameplay clips and the other videos were put out by Nintendo to be hosted and shared by the press so that would case no issue. If the language used in this bill does end up covering the gameplay clips, it still shouldn't even matter because the "copyrighted" material that would be contained within the video qualifies as fair use. Because of how the material is used, I think it easily falls under fair use. Finally on top of that, this is only a bill in the US Senate. This won't cover people from other countries. Therefore if the channel becomes technically AK's channel, then there is nothing they can do. So as I stated earlier, I don't think there is anything to worry about in the slightest. --Birdman5589 (talk) 20:39, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's appoint someone to take the jail time and eventual copyright lawsuits right now. You've invested the most time into this Birdie, you're the obvious choice. --<font color="#3ba0c5">Auron  Kaizer <font color="#3ba0c5">!  20:41, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. --Birdman5589 (talk) 20:44, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...We'll miss you, man. -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish  <font color="#003366">Link   20:46, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

They can't possibly pass this bill. Five years of jail time for uploading a video, its ridiculous. The world's jails are already over crowded enough from what I hear (at least they they seem to be in my country). Even if it did pass there'd be no need to take the channel down as no one can be persecuted for anything done before the bill is passed. At absolute worst it would mean not uploading any further videos after that. Good luck with jail Birdie. <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 14:14, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreement with all the above. If it passes and there's a chance of jail time for anyone, we stop immediately. <font color="#663300">T <font   color="#996600">h <font   color="#CC6600">e Mask-Mimic.gif ™  16:53, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, just a quick update here-- Sally and I were just talking, and by the looks of things, we're pretty much okay even if this bill DOES pass. Quoting the article I just linked to, "The statute can only be enforced in instances where uploaders are "willfully" infringing on a copyright with intent to make money, and is only punishable if said uploader makes (or the game company loses) over $2,500." We're a) definitely not making $2500 and b) not making the Big N lose $2500 (to my knowledge!). So I'm pretty sure we're good either way. Anyway, Birdie, you're not going to jail by the looks of things. Break out the newly made ZeldapediaVideo merch shirts! -<font color="#B0E0E6">Minish  <font color="#003366">Link   02:43, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Youtube Post Convert 3D
Youtube now has a feature where they can do post conversion to 3D from any 2D video file. I was wondering what people thought of enabling this on any of the OoT3D related videos? I have enabled this feature on several of my videos just to test it out and it does a decent job. Here is an example of the feature used in some video game footage. I have also enabled it on one of the OoT3D videos. I can always disable it later. As far as I can tell the videos will by default still play in their unaffected form but will allow for people to turn on the 3D effect if they wish. I want to know what people thing about this. --Birdman5589 (talk) 13:56, September 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's not like it's showing the 3DS's 3D or anything, so I don't think it's important. That being said, if it can be added as an option with non-3D remaining the default, and doesn't slow down the streaming of the regular version or anything like that, then sure, why not. I don't have any Red/Blue glasses handy right now so I can't tell what it looks like, but if people think it looks good then we might as well. I wouldn't emphasize OoT3D over any other video though, this is separate from the 3D abilities of the 3DS.
 * As a side note, does anyone know how this works? Obviously youtube only has a 2D collection of pixel-based frames to go on. I wouldn't have expected current shape recognition software to be able to automatically produce 3D that a human would care to look at.--<font color="Green">Fierce <font color="SaddleBrown">Deku 23:49, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

New Look
Can we swap back to the old Youtube layout? I just find it a lot easier to use <font color="#66FFFF">Oni <font color="#7F007F">Dark <font color="#007A00">Link 10:30, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can see what I can do but I'm not sure if it is possible to revert back to the old layout. --Birdman5589 (talk) 16:56, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done --Birdman5589 (talk) 17:04, January 15, 2012 (UTC)